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(The Daily Beast)   To understand how extraordinary this obsession with Israel is, just imagine the uproar if any senator raised objections to a US cabinet nominee over, say their "commitment" to Canada, France or Turkey   (andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com) divider line 370
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2013-01-10 08:17:51 AM
Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.
 
2013-01-10 08:29:06 AM
no. farking. shiat.
 
2013-01-10 09:22:30 AM

Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.


and here we go...
 
2013-01-10 09:35:14 AM

Altair: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

and here we go...


Well, okay, I forgot that a few years back the Danes were ready to start some shiat with Canada over that rock up near Greenland. Thankfully, diplomacy prevailed and we were spared the horrors of the Poutine/Lego War of 2005.
 
2013-01-10 09:40:00 AM

Gulper Eel: Altair: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

and here we go...

Well, okay, I forgot that a few years back the Danes were ready to start some shiat with Canada over that rock up near Greenland. Thankfully, diplomacy prevailed and we were spared the horrors of the Poutine/Lego War of 2005.


Cute.

But I love how for all the hewing and crying over our sovereignty with regard to the UN, we seem to be ready to sacrifice it for Israel without question or hesitation.
 
2013-01-10 09:57:33 AM

Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.


Well, France.
 
2013-01-10 09:59:08 AM

Diogenes: Gulper Eel: Altair: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

and here we go...

Well, okay, I forgot that a few years back the Danes were ready to start some shiat with Canada over that rock up near Greenland. Thankfully, diplomacy prevailed and we were spared the horrors of the Poutine/Lego War of 2005.

Cute.

But I love how for all the hewing and crying over our sovereignty with regard to the UN, we seem to be ready to sacrifice it for Israel without question or hesitation.


Really? Supporting an ally is now "sacrificing our sovereignty"?

Damn those Japanese for making us give up our sovereignty! And likewise let us curse the Germans and those dastardly villains in the Netherlands!
 
2013-01-10 10:01:18 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Well, France.


They have enough hot women that they can stay. Besides, nobody wants a giant Luxembourg.
 
2013-01-10 10:06:47 AM

give me doughnuts: Diogenes: Gulper Eel: Altair: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

and here we go...

Well, okay, I forgot that a few years back the Danes were ready to start some shiat with Canada over that rock up near Greenland. Thankfully, diplomacy prevailed and we were spared the horrors of the Poutine/Lego War of 2005.

Cute.

But I love how for all the hewing and crying over our sovereignty with regard to the UN, we seem to be ready to sacrifice it for Israel without question or hesitation.

Really? Supporting an ally is now "sacrificing our sovereignty"?

Damn those Japanese for making us give up our sovereignty! And likewise let us curse the Germans and those dastardly villains in the Netherlands!


No.  It is, of course, a matter of degree.
 
2013-01-10 10:10:41 AM

Gulper Eel: ... surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.


"But enough about the Palestinian occupied territories!"

i.imgur.com


/it begins
 
2013-01-10 10:25:15 AM

Somacandra: Gulper Eel: ... surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

"But enough about the Palestinian occupied territories!"

[i.imgur.com image 250x200]


/it begins


Yeah. If they could finally push all the Egyptian and Jordanian squatters out of Gaza and the West Bank, Israel could finally stabilize its borders.
 
2013-01-10 10:36:26 AM

Gulper Eel: God Is My Co-Pirate: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Well, France.

They have enough hot women that they can stay. Besides, nobody wants a giant Luxembourg.


Canada's got some damn fine women too.   Ahh, Montreal...
 
2013-01-10 10:56:17 AM
America led the UN in establishing Israel.  They are family.
 
2013-01-10 11:07:26 AM
So Fark is a mouthpiece for the Electronic Intifada now?
 
2013-01-10 11:11:41 AM

PowerSlacker: So Fark is a mouthpiece for the Electronic Intifada now?


Yes, that's exactly right, just like it's the mouthpiece for WorldNetDaily, HuffingtonPost, American Thinker, Reason, Daily Kos and the Daily Caller.
 
2013-01-10 11:11:44 AM
o.onionstatic.com
 
2013-01-10 11:12:33 AM

give me doughnuts: Damn those Japanese for making us give up our sovereignty! And likewise let us curse the Germans and those dastardly villains in the Netherlands!


So there are US presidential appointees getting put through the wringer because theyre not sufficiently pro-Dutch, pro-Japanese, or pro-German enough?

Way to miss the point.
 
2013-01-10 11:13:29 AM
Who cares. Once the Baby Boomer generation is dead the Israel lobby will be powerless.
 
2013-01-10 11:13:51 AM
Interesting tidbit, from link in TFA, Elliott Abrams from the Council on Foreign Relations went all in on NPR and said Hagel is an anti-Semite. That's what you get for not supporting "our" family.

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/01/elliott-abrams-semite.html
 
2013-01-10 11:14:40 AM
You guys are all way off base, it has way more to do with pandering to a religious group for votes than actually protecting any other nations.
 
2013-01-10 11:14:50 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Well, France.


Which is why we have had troops stationed in Germany for 60 years.

We used to have bases in France, but deGaulle kicked us out when he left NATO.
 
2013-01-10 11:14:54 AM
Israel will be toast soon......in a few decades there will be more Israeli citizens of Arab descent than Jews. A recent poll of young Israelis(under 35) shows that most would like to leave, and most of the majority would like to go to Europe.
 
2013-01-10 11:15:11 AM
Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada, sounds legit.

"To understand how extraordinary this obsession with South Korea is, just imagine the uproar if any senator raised objections to a US cabinet nominee over, say their "commitment" to Canada, France or Turkey who are actually members of NATO."

Signed, The Tubby Guy from Best Korea.
 
2013-01-10 11:15:40 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: [o.onionstatic.com image 600x411]


I have it on good authority that Seth ate a non-Kosher hot dog at a Tigers game once.
 
2013-01-10 11:15:44 AM
Go U.S.A never stop sucking that sweet sweet Isreali cock.
 
2013-01-10 11:16:15 AM

tallguywithglasseson: Interesting tidbit, from link in TFA, Elliott Abrams from the Council on Foreign Relations went all in on NPR and said Hagel is an anti-Semite. That's what you get for not supporting "our" family.

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/01/elliott-abrams-semite.html


The follow-up makes that bit even more ridiculous

But Abrams wrote in his book Faith or Fear (1997)
Outside the land of Israel, there can be no doubt that Jews, faithful to the covenant between God and Abraham, are to stand apart from the nation in which they live. It is the very nature of being Jewish to be apart-except in Israel-from the rest of the population....
 
2013-01-10 11:17:17 AM
We gave ( and continue to give) the Israelies their country, unlimited funds and unlimited access to men, material and technology; what else could they possibly want?

/ don't get me wrong; I like the Israelies, especially the 18 year old female variety

// sometimes, I wonder if we should just let the Israelies have at the rest of the Middle East; the other countries wouldn't stand a chance
 
2013-01-10 11:17:40 AM

pag1107: You guys are all way off base, it has way more to do with pandering to a religious group for votes than actually protecting any other nations.


THIS
 
2013-01-10 11:17:58 AM
Yeah, those countries you named are all useless. Unlike Israel.
 
2013-01-10 11:18:03 AM

people: give me doughnuts: Damn those Japanese for making us give up our sovereignty! And likewise let us curse the Germans and those dastardly villains in the Netherlands!

So there are US presidential appointees getting put through the wringer because theyre not sufficiently pro-Dutch, pro-Japanese, or pro-German enough?

Way to miss the point.


Way not to read, or understand, the original post I was responding to.
 
2013-01-10 11:18:28 AM

Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.


Funny, I've been told countless times by Americans that if not for them, Canada would have been conquered several times over now.
 
2013-01-10 11:18:53 AM

halfof33: Ali Abunimah of Electronic Intifada, sounds legit.

"To understand how extraordinary this obsession with South Korea is, just imagine the uproar if any senator raised objections to a US cabinet nominee over, say their "commitment" to Canada, France or Turkey who are actually members of NATO."

Signed, The Tubby Guy from Best Korea.


That it's laughable a nomination might be scuttled (and the nominee be called racist in the process) for past criticism of South Korean policy and lobbying power... kind of supports the point. Not sure if that's what you were trying to do.
 
2013-01-10 11:18:58 AM

iheartscotch: We gave ( and continue to give) the Israelies their country, unlimited funds and unlimited access to men, material and technology; what else could they possibly want?


I just realized that they're playing Command & Conquer with all the cheat codes on and the still can't win.
 
2013-01-10 11:19:06 AM

BravadoGT: America led the UN in establishing Israel.  They are family.


But I have been assured that we hate the UN.
 
2013-01-10 11:19:34 AM

tricycleracer: the


*they
 
2013-01-10 11:19:45 AM
Charges of antisemitism is the "playing the race card" of the right.
 
2013-01-10 11:20:22 AM
I am a Zionist, I believe the Jewish people should have their own country.

That being said, Israel today is a shameful apartheid state and I don't want my money supporting the current Israeli regime.
 
2013-01-10 11:20:40 AM

Fissile: Israel will be toast soon......in a few decades there will be more Israeli citizens of Arab descent than Jews. A recent poll of young Israelis(under 35) shows that most would like to leave, and most of the majority would like to go to Europe.


To be fair, who wants to live in a warzone in the desert?
 
2013-01-10 11:20:42 AM

BravadoGT: America led the UN in establishing Israel.  They are family.


I don't have any family that I've financially supported for 65 years.
 
2013-01-10 11:20:56 AM

Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.


What are you talking about? We surround Canada thanks to Alaska.
 
2013-01-10 11:21:01 AM
I'm often told, "But they're our ally in the Middle East," to which I always wonder how, exactly, they help us in any way. Does the presence of our friend Israel mean I get cheap gas? No? Do they supply us with anything other than a bunch of Arabs who are mad at us for giving aid to Israel, and a bunch of espionage attempts? No? Then fark 'em.
 
2013-01-10 11:21:02 AM

Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.


Now why is that ...?

i560.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-10 11:22:42 AM

ITGreen: Gulper Eel: God Is My Co-Pirate: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Well, France.

They have enough hot women that they can stay. Besides, nobody wants a giant Luxembourg.

Canada's got some damn fine women too.   Ahh, Montreal...


We start out Montreal and we end up Trois-Rivières. It's the Canadian Curse.
 
2013-01-10 11:23:09 AM
You know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2013-01-10 11:23:18 AM

Uncle Tractor: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Now why is that ...?

[i560.photobucket.com image 640x453]


uh, there are arab jews. about 50-75% of jews are arabs. That's why it's so ridiculous that they want to treat the country as an enemy and/or different when they're basically all the same people with the same hereditary background.
 
2013-01-10 11:24:01 AM

Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.


Don't know a lot about the geography of Turkey, do you?
 
2013-01-10 11:24:19 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-10 11:24:29 AM

Uncle Tractor: Gulper Eel: Canada, France and Turkey aren't surrounded by countries who want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

Now why is that ...?

[i560.photobucket.com image 640x453]


That's kind of like saying "How does one establish a Muslim country where 90% of the population is Persian."

One is a religion, one is an ethnicity. The two don't always go together.
 
2013-01-10 11:24:53 AM

Prank Call of Cthulhu: I'm often told, "But they're our ally in the Middle East," to which I always wonder how, exactly, they help us in any way. Does the presence of our friend Israel mean I get cheap gas? No? Do they supply us with anything other than a bunch of Arabs who are mad at us for giving aid to Israel, and a bunch of espionage attempts? No? Then fark 'em.


They help us by attempting to meddle in our elections while at the same time making any diplomacy in the middle east about a million times more difficult. We are the battered wife in a dysfunctional relationship with an unemployed plumber who is a giant douchbag to everyone on the block.
 
2013-01-10 11:25:26 AM

Uncle Tractor



Answer: You kick their ass in a war. Like we did. And just about every other nation did at one time or another.
 
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