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(CNN)   "A Latino should have played the lead role of a CIA agent in the movie Argo", a movie that almost completely ignored the massive Canadian contributions in a daring scheme that rescued six Americans and was dubbed the "Canadian Caper"   (cnn.com) divider line 80
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mjg
2013-01-10 01:27:50 PM
Sort of a CSB:
I had dinner with Ken Taylor at the Canadian ambassador's residence in NYC a few years back. Ken was quite forthcoming about his role in getting the Americans out of Iran, but he was "yeah, well that was in the past". (Meanwhile, my jaw dropped with the casual manner he talked about it).

Shame that Ken and John Sheardown were not given proper credit in 'Argo' for their actions. Both of them are heroes regardless of what country they are from.
 
2013-01-10 01:28:26 PM

Krieghund: Johnny Depp set a better example. Several months ago, Depp turned down the role of Mexican revolutionary Francisco "Pancho" Villa in another film. He said that the role should go to a Latino. I praised Depp at the time for showing that, besides being a great actor, he is also a person of character.

Oh Fark that. I like Depp a lot, but using that logic, his role of Tonto in the forthcoming Lone Ranger movie should have gone to a Native American.

And Ben Affleck got the starring role because the director - a guy named Ben Affleck - thought Ben Affleck would do a good job acting and that a movie starring Ben Affleck would get seats in butts in theater. Ben Affleck.


Rincewind53: Krieghund: Oh Fark that. I like Depp a lot, but using that logic, his role of Tonto in the forthcoming Lone Ranger movie should have gone to a Native American.

That's what I thought, then I looked it up and apparently he's got a Native American ancestor.

Krieghund: And Ben Affleck got the starring role because the director - a guy named Ben Affleck - thought Ben Affleck would do a good job acting and that a movie starring Ben Affleck would get seats in butts in theater. Ben Affleck.

Yep, pretty much that. Normally I don't like whitewashing in movies, but this was clearly Ben Affleck just doing something for himself, so it's much more forgiveable.


Ben wanted Brad Pitt to play the main role. He wasn't available.
 
2013-01-10 01:44:56 PM
I haven't seen this movie, but he still plays Tony Mendez, right? The character is still Latino, even if he looks a bit whiter?

The only way this should be a problem is if Affleck changed the man to "Tony Smith" and denied any semblance of his heritage. It doesn't appear he did.
 
2013-01-10 01:58:06 PM
The British were badly portrayed in Argo as well. A character in the film says "the British embassy don't want to know" when if fact the British were the first to shelter the Americans and it wad only because their embassy and accomodation were under threat that they agreed with Canada to move them there.
 
2013-01-10 02:18:20 PM
i'd bet my bottom-dollar that a majority of the middle-eastern dudes weren't, in fact, Iranian, either... Where's the indignation for dem?
 
2013-01-10 02:22:53 PM

mjg: Shame that Ken and John Sheardown were not given proper credit in 'Argo' for their actions. Both of them are heroes regardless of what country they are from.


What credit would you want? It was very clear what they risked and that they had an active role in helping get them out, but a movie is not that long and they couldnt put every single detail in the film, would you also want the fact they spent 6 days or so hiding out in other homes before getting to his? Get over it, the film was good and hit the high points without downplaying the fact he risked his and his families safety to help get them out of the country.

Wayne 985: I haven't seen this movie, but he still plays Tony Mendez, right? The character is still Latino, even if he looks a bit whiter?


Yes same name so I dont see the problem either, it seems canada is just pissy their role was exposed as being about 55% responsible and not 100% responsible, still wouldnt have been done if they didnt help, besides this was exposed over a decade ago.
 
2013-01-10 03:09:05 PM

steamingpile: mjg: Shame that Ken and John Sheardown were not given proper credit in 'Argo' for their actions. Both of them are heroes regardless of what country they are from.

What credit would you want? It was very clear what they risked and that they had an active role in helping get them out, but a movie is not that long and they couldnt put every single detail in the film, would you also want the fact they spent 6 days or so hiding out in other homes before getting to his? Get over it, the film was good and hit the high points without downplaying the fact he risked his and his families safety to help get them out of the country.

Wayne 985: I haven't seen this movie, but he still plays Tony Mendez, right? The character is still Latino, even if he looks a bit whiter?

Yes same name so I dont see the problem either, it seems canada is just pissy their role was exposed as being about 55% responsible and not 100% responsible, still wouldnt have been done if they didnt help, besides this was exposed over a decade ago.


Ok we get it, you think Canadians are pissy, anyone could have read your five other posts and came to the same conclusion.
 
2013-01-10 03:12:10 PM
Wait a minute . . . Hollywood is more concerned about hiring actors / directors that will draw in the big bucks then accurately portraying the real life characters?

I am shocked!!!!
 
2013-01-10 03:17:04 PM
We have more Beibers, Celines and Nickelbacks. Send money or we open the gates of hell.
 
2013-01-10 03:19:21 PM

moothemagiccow: FLMountainMan: I thought it was called "The Canadian Caper" in large part to distract people from the CIA's involvement?

/Didn't see the movie.

Mmmyep. It's not like they downplayed the risk the Canadians at the embassy took. The trouble is that Canadians enjoyed the credit received from the subterfuge as a point of national pride, and were disappointed to learn much of it was BS.

Also I'm not sure, but Ben Affleck may have also been involved in the casting of Ben Affleck in the Ben Affleck film.

I too was shocked to learn a guy named Antonio Mendez was hispanic


What is "it"? The movie or the pride that the Canadians took in driving this operation?
 
2013-01-10 03:35:28 PM
If Nick Fury can be an African-American, then Tony Mendez can be a white guy.
 
2013-01-10 04:03:08 PM
Americans are arrogant assholes who always want to take credit for other countries accomplishments. We got those people out of Iran, the CIA did jack shiat. Canada is the greatest country in the world. Suck it 'Merica.
 
2013-01-10 04:23:00 PM

T.rex: i'd bet my bottom-dollar that a majority of the middle-eastern dudes weren't, in fact, Iranian, either... Where's the indignation for dem?


Iirc that was intentional so there would be no reprisals against the actors families in Iran.
 
2013-01-10 05:54:50 PM

Malcolm_Sex: steamingpile: mjg: Shame that Ken and John Sheardown were not given proper credit in 'Argo' for their actions. Both of them are heroes regardless of what country they are from.

What credit would you want? It was very clear what they risked and that they had an active role in helping get them out, but a movie is not that long and they couldnt put every single detail in the film, would you also want the fact they spent 6 days or so hiding out in other homes before getting to his? Get over it, the film was good and hit the high points without downplaying the fact he risked his and his families safety to help get them out of the country.

Wayne 985: I haven't seen this movie, but he still plays Tony Mendez, right? The character is still Latino, even if he looks a bit whiter?

Yes same name so I dont see the problem either, it seems canada is just pissy their role was exposed as being about 55% responsible and not 100% responsible, still wouldnt have been done if they didnt help, besides this was exposed over a decade ago.

Ok we get it, you think Canadians are pissy, anyone could have read your five other posts and came to the same conclusion.


No I don't, I just don't get why people are pissy because they got all the credit before and feel its being over looked now.

The movie is 2 hours long, to get every detail it would have to be a 6-8 hour series. It hit the high point, which is they made up a movie to get them out of a hostile situation.
 
2013-01-10 05:56:50 PM

Krieghund: Johnny Depp set a better example. Several months ago, Depp turned down the role of Mexican revolutionary Francisco "Pancho" Villa in another film. He said that the role should go to a Latino. I praised Depp at the time for showing that, besides being a great actor, he is also a person of character.

Oh Fark that. I like Depp a lot, but using that logic, his role of Tonto in the forthcoming Lone Ranger movie should have gone to a Native American.

And Ben Affleck got the starring role because the director - a guy named Ben Affleck - thought Ben Affleck would do a good job acting and that a movie starring Ben Affleck would get seats in butts in theater. Ben Affleck.


MATT DAMON >_
 
2013-01-10 06:39:25 PM
"Tony does not have, I don't know what you would say, a Latin/Spanish accent" and that "You wouldn't necessarily select him out of a line of 10 people and go 'This guy's Latino.' "

Spoken like a true, ignorant, dopey Boston kid.

Then again I blame this shiat on the media, who have become our fill-in educators since Public Schools are clueless in the arena of sociology and culture. The Media, who, in their infinite chase for the next dollar, muddy the waters by identifying a Latino who kills someone black as "white-latino" to fit their narrative, then further shiats in those same waters by identifying Latinos in the November election as "the fastest growing racial group that will outnumber whites by 2030".

Its no wonder people say dumb as stereotypical shiat as Benji. Then again, he's part of the same ilk who thinks Barack Obama is universally excepted simply because he "speaks so well". Ugh.
 
2013-01-10 07:12:28 PM

torr5962: "Tony does not have, I don't know what you would say, a Latin/Spanish accent" and that "You wouldn't necessarily select him out of a line of 10 people and go 'This guy's Latino.' "

Spoken like a true, ignorant, dopey Boston kid.

Then again I blame this shiat on the media, who have become our fill-in educators since Public Schools are clueless in the arena of sociology and culture. The Media, who, in their infinite chase for the next dollar, muddy the waters by identifying a Latino who kills someone black as "white-latino" to fit their narrative, then further shiats in those same waters by identifying Latinos in the November election as "the fastest growing racial group that will outnumber whites by 2030".

Its no wonder people say dumb as stereotypical shiat as Benji. Then again, he's part of the same ilk who thinks Barack Obama is universally excepted simply because he "speaks so well". Ugh.


We won't hear the term "White Hispanic" again until Marco Rubio runs for President.
 
2013-01-10 07:56:24 PM

FLMountainMan: torr5962: "Tony does not have, I don't know what you would say, a Latin/Spanish accent" and that "You wouldn't necessarily select him out of a line of 10 people and go 'This guy's Latino.' "

Spoken like a true, ignorant, dopey Boston kid.

Then again I blame this shiat on the media, who have become our fill-in educators since Public Schools are clueless in the arena of sociology and culture. The Media, who, in their infinite chase for the next dollar, muddy the waters by identifying a Latino who kills someone black as "white-latino" to fit their narrative, then further shiats in those same waters by identifying Latinos in the November election as "the fastest growing racial group that will outnumber whites by 2030".

Its no wonder people say dumb as stereotypical shiat as Benji. Then again, he's part of the same ilk who thinks Barack Obama is universally excepted simply because he "speaks so well". Ugh.

We won't hear the term "White Hispanic" again until Marco Rubio runs for President.


Some guy named Cruz would like a word, sir.
/and..."excepted" while busting some other guys balls? -1 webs for you.
 
2013-01-10 08:49:41 PM
Argo fark yourself.
 
2013-01-10 09:47:36 PM

steamingpile: The movie is 2 hours long, to get every detail it would have to be a 6-8 hour series. It hit the high point, which is they made up a movie to get them out of a hostile situation.


And yet they added in a detail that was completely wrong and claimed the British didn't want to help, when in fact the British embassy were the first to hide the Americans and helped with the rest of the escape. They could have just left that out, but they actually added in that claim.
 
2013-01-10 11:03:17 PM

T.rex: There are any number of Latinos in Hollywood they could've given the role.... George Lopez, Luiz Guzman, ...Cheech... I can't believe they didn't go with any of those guys.


Or Michael Pena./a>

/love that guy
 
2013-01-11 12:24:20 AM
Was Ruben upset when a latino chick (Cameron Diaz) played an Irish immigrant in "Gangs of New York"? I kind of doubt it.
 
2013-01-11 01:16:43 AM
It's pretty simple. Affleck was the director, they had a relatively low budget, so they could kill 2 birds with one stone, and if they'd cast Wilmer Valderamma, they would have sold maybe 5 tickets, all to people with the surname Valderamma.
 
2013-01-11 01:40:07 AM
Not one picture of Ken Taylor? I am disappoint...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-11 03:48:32 AM
FTA: "The critics are right, and their cause is just. Affleck should have tried to cast a Latino to play Mendez."

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-11 09:49:28 AM

studs up: FLMountainMan: torr5962: "Tony does not have, I don't know what you would say, a Latin/Spanish accent" and that "You wouldn't necessarily select him out of a line of 10 people and go 'This guy's Latino.' "

Spoken like a true, ignorant, dopey Boston kid.

Then again I blame this shiat on the media, who have become our fill-in educators since Public Schools are clueless in the arena of sociology and culture. The Media, who, in their infinite chase for the next dollar, muddy the waters by identifying a Latino who kills someone black as "white-latino" to fit their narrative, then further shiats in those same waters by identifying Latinos in the November election as "the fastest growing racial group that will outnumber whites by 2030".

Its no wonder people say dumb as stereotypical shiat as Benji. Then again, he's part of the same ilk who thinks Barack Obama is universally excepted simply because he "speaks so well". Ugh.

We won't hear the term "White Hispanic" again until Marco Rubio runs for President.

Some guy named Cruz would like a word, sir.
/and..."excepted" while busting some other guys balls? -1 webs for you.


Yeah....see how when you read my post that some words were italicized and some weren't? The italicized words weren't actually said by me, they were said by the person I was quoting. Just like how your words appear above my current post.

The more you know.
 
2013-01-11 12:10:42 PM

BronyMedic: Shut up Canada.

God. Always trying to ride the other countries coattails.

When is the last time you people apologized for Celene Dion or Bryan Adams? Do that, and we'll talk.


George Bush and Honey Boo Boo? Talk is done.
 
rka
2013-01-11 05:05:50 PM

Gaylord Q. Tinkledink: Americans are arrogant assholes who always want to take credit for other countries accomplishments. We got those people out of Iran, the CIA did jack shiat. Canada is the greatest country in the world. Suck it 'Merica.


So make your own damn movie.
 
2013-01-11 05:52:41 PM

FLMountainMan: studs up: FLMountainMan: torr5962: "Tony does not have, I don't know what you would say, a Latin/Spanish accent" and that "You wouldn't necessarily select him out of a line of 10 people and go 'This guy's Latino.' "

Spoken like a true, ignorant, dopey Boston kid.

Then again I blame this shiat on the media, who have become our fill-in educators since Public Schools are clueless in the arena of sociology and culture. The Media, who, in their infinite chase for the next dollar, muddy the waters by identifying a Latino who kills someone black as "white-latino" to fit their narrative, then further shiats in those same waters by identifying Latinos in the November election as "the fastest growing racial group that will outnumber whites by 2030".

Its no wonder people say dumb as stereotypical shiat as Benji. Then again, he's part of the same ilk who thinks Barack Obama is universally excepted simply because he "speaks so well". Ugh.

We won't hear the term "White Hispanic" again until Marco Rubio runs for President.

Some guy named Cruz would like a word, sir.
/and..."excepted" while busting some other guys balls? -1 webs for you.

Yeah....see how when you read my post that some words were italicized and some weren't? The italicized words weren't actually said by me, they were said by the person I was quoting. Just like how your words appear above my current post.

The more you know.


I thought that was obvious. Are we pointing out every little thing now? OK.
 
2013-01-11 07:15:13 PM

studs up: Yeah....see how when you read my post that some words were italicized and some weren't? The italicized words weren't actually said by me, they were said by the person I was quoting. Just like how your words appear above my current post.

The more you know.

I thought that was obvious. Are we pointing out every little thing now? OK.


It did look like you were criticising FLMM for saying ."excepted" when it wasn't him who said it.
 
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