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(FOX6Now)   The appropriate action to take with all autistic patients is to have them on a leash, obviously   (fox6now.com) divider line 108
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2013-01-09 04:19:35 PM
FTA: However, the spokeswoman also said Michael had eaten from the hot food bar before, and the store had always been understanding.  She also said the language used by the security guard was closer to: "you don't have to put him on a leash, but you have to watch him."

Suggested alternate headline: Family of autistic man uses Fox 6 to troll for free publicity, stuff
 
2013-01-09 04:38:15 PM
Those comments on that stories page make me embarrassed to live in the same city as them. What the hell is wrong with people?
 
2013-01-09 08:19:44 PM
I can't wait for the followup article when one of the young lad's teachers tells him to "break a leg" on his next test.
 
2013-01-09 08:25:35 PM
At the very least keep him occupied with some paper and crayons, geeze.
 
2013-01-09 08:27:27 PM
Why can't you harness a whole team of them to pull a sled?
 
2013-01-09 08:27:32 PM
Shock belt?
 
2013-01-09 08:28:08 PM

FunkOut: Why can't you harness a whole team of them to pull a sled?


Reinmen?
 
2013-01-09 08:29:14 PM
Most of them enjoy being on a leash. Some of them even pay for it.
 
2013-01-09 08:30:09 PM

FunkOut: Why can't you harness a whole team of them to pull a sled?


Training them...
media1.break.com

When a man has the mind of a child we lock him away, and yet children run free.
 
2013-01-09 08:30:28 PM
Read that as autistic parents, and wondered how that worked
 
2013-01-09 08:31:59 PM
What an autistic woman may look like

farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-01-09 08:32:04 PM
Hah, can't believe this made it to Fark :P I side with the security guard in this case... The attention-seeking coont obviously wasn't watching the autistic guy like she SHOULD have been and oops, he got in trouble, now she whines to the world about how terrible it is to scold someone who was obviously stealing / ruining food.
 
2013-01-09 08:33:36 PM
www.movieactors.com

Mongo?

/love those goofy bastards.
 
2013-01-09 08:34:24 PM

LtDarkstar: Hah, can't believe this made it to Fark :P I side with the security guard in this case... The attention-seeking coont obviously wasn't watching the autistic guy like she SHOULD have been and oops, he got in trouble, now she whines to the world about how terrible it is to scold someone who was obviously stealing / ruining food.


FARK really needs a two-sided "Vote" mechanism here, so we can just register our side upfront.
 
2013-01-09 08:34:35 PM
yeah i'm going to agree with the people who side more with the security guard. what he said wasn't that horrible, and if you keep bringing him in where he causes an issue maybe you need a bit of a sterner rebuke.
 
2013-01-09 08:36:07 PM
Maybe she could just leave him where he really belongs while she goes shopping, in his cage.
 
2013-01-09 08:36:39 PM
The usual crap.

If you know your brother has autism then it is YOUR responsibility to keep extremely close tabs on him and when somebody suggests that you do so the response is not to act indignant and demand sensitivity training.

And no, offering to pay for the item after the fact does not excuse a damn thing.
 
2013-01-09 08:36:45 PM
Could have been charged with grand theft veggie samosa. Count your blessings. No, seriously, count them.

/82 82 82
 
2013-01-09 08:37:23 PM
Couldn't you use a shock or choke collar?
 
2013-01-09 08:38:01 PM
She should get him a reflective orange vest which clearly says DISABED PERSON so that everyone wil know to treat him with sensitivity.
 
2013-01-09 08:38:33 PM
Tard walks in and starts stuffing his face with food while at the hot bar

People tell him to stop and that she needs to watch her little burden closer

She gets outraged

What a backward society we have, when we let assholes like this woman drag her autistic brother into a store to run wild and slober over food, and yet we punish the people who try to keep him from doing so.
 
2013-01-09 08:38:53 PM

LtDarkstar: Hah, can't believe this made it to Fark :P I side with the security guard in this case... The attention-seeking coont obviously wasn't watching the autistic guy like she SHOULD have been and oops, he got in trouble, now she whines to the world about how terrible it is to scold someone who was obviously stealing / ruining food.


A sheltered eastside twit who thinks she's more important than everyone else AND shops at Whole Foods? Noooo, never in Milwaukee.
 
2013-01-09 08:39:49 PM
thank god asberger's doesn't exist anymore....I pray that we can keep these human chimps under better control
 
2013-01-09 08:39:52 PM

namegoeshere: She should get him a reflective orange vest which clearly says DISABED PERSON so that everyone wil know to treat him with sensitivity.


Then he'd constantly be mistaken for one of  the City's public works crew.

Or a politician.
 
2013-01-09 08:43:41 PM

A stranger in the Alps: [www.movieactors.com image 266x164]

Mongo?

/love those goofy bastards.


Yup, this is what I was looking for.
 
2013-01-09 08:44:55 PM

voodoomedic: thank god asberger's doesn't exist anymore....I pray that we can keep these human chimps under better control


Though I'm aware you're trolling, Aspergers never should have been part of the Autism spectrum to begin with. As someone who has aspergers under the DSM-IV, (but not classified under the DSM-V), I have always thought this. People with Aspergers have social awkwardness, but do not act in the manner of this article, or in the article calbert linked.
 
2013-01-09 08:45:15 PM

atomicmask: Tard walks in and starts stuffing his face with food while at the hot bar

People tell him to stop and that she needs to watch her little burden closer

She gets outraged

What a backward society we have, when we let assholes like this woman drag her autistic brother into a store to run wild and slober over food, and yet we punish the people who try to keep him from doing so.


i agree, what if he had stuck his hand in a hot pot of chai tea latte or something. even though 1) the sister should be the responsible party 2) it would still be considered stealing, they would try to sue
 
2013-01-09 08:45:16 PM
does it involve sexy collars? because i'm ok with this if there are sexy collars involved.

/i want SPIKES. caps = big shiny spikes.
 
2013-01-09 08:45:31 PM

Rockstone: voodoomedic: thank god asberger's doesn't exist anymore....I pray that we can keep these human chimps under better control

Though I'm aware you're trolling, Aspergers never should have been part of the Autism spectrum to begin with. As someone who has aspergers under the DSM-IV, (but not classified under the DSM-V), I have always thought this. People with Aspergers have social awkwardness, but do not act in the manner of this article, or in the article calbert linked.


They do however fail at previewing though...
 
2013-01-09 08:46:30 PM
Helmet?
 
2013-01-09 08:49:04 PM
Holy shiat at those comments

Why was she not watching the little prick, he's 26 but cant control himself near a hot bar. Autism or not, a 26 year old human knows better.

And that's far from the worst comment.
 
2013-01-09 08:50:23 PM
The security guard could have used much better wording, but this is apparently not the first time this has happened PLUS his sister knows that he has difficulties communicating. Take some initiative.
 
2013-01-09 08:51:18 PM

Indubitably: Helmet?


To leash.

;)
 
2013-01-09 08:52:01 PM
Some of my patients are artistic.
 
2013-01-09 08:52:54 PM
I wouldn't take this young man to a grocery store without more supervision. Guard was still an insensitive douchebag.

Public bathrooms continue to be challenge for us unless there is a private family bathroom. We try to plan ahead.
 
2013-01-09 08:52:54 PM

Yes this is dog: Indubitably: Helmet?

To leash.

;)


"I bnneed to sssthcure my bbb-oundaries. My helmet helps."
 
2013-01-09 08:52:59 PM

Rockstone: voodoomedic: thank god asberger's doesn't exist anymore....I pray that we can keep these human chimps under better control

Though I'm aware you're trolling, Aspergers never should have been part of the Autism spectrum to begin with. As someone who has aspergers under the DSM-IV, (but not classified under the DSM-V), I have always thought this. People with Aspergers have social awkwardness, but do not act in the manner of this article, or in the article calbert linked.


It depends on how wide of a net you cast. Autism has covered a lot of symptoms with no common pathology to link them together. The criteria seems to be "well if it's a severe developmental disorder we can't link it to a genetic or congenital birth defect, or abuse, or chemical exposure, it's 'autism'." Then the logic extended with "ok, so if he/she doesn't display social behavior deemed TYPICAL, we'll just call that the same thing, but 'lighter'." Still no identified mechanism of pathology, much less one demonstrated to be common.

Both Aspergers AND autism encompass such a wide range of symptoms it seems implausible that they're all the same pathology. Different problems are being conflated and that's never good for advancing understanding and treatment.
 
2013-01-09 08:53:14 PM

atomicmask: Tard walks in and starts stuffing his face with food while at the hot bar


Yeah, I doubt he was discreetly popping cherry tomatoes into his mouth.

Probably more like fist fulls of Swedish Meatballs chased by a ladles worth of Ranch Dressing.
 
2013-01-09 08:53:37 PM

Indubitably: Yes this is dog: Indubitably: Helmet?

To leash.

;)

"I bnneed to sssthcure my bbb-oundaries. My helmet helps."


*click* that leash...

*)
 
2013-01-09 08:54:17 PM
Oh, and

"We apologize and regret that one of our contracted security guards made insensitive comments to a Whole Foods Market shopper who was disabled. We are conducting special training this week for all team members at Whole Foods Market Milwaukee, even though none of our team members were involved."

So take it up with the company he was contracted from, or promise to stop using them. Don't take it out on the group of people who you KNOW didn't do anything wrong.

/just as shiatty as Comcast's response to their out-of-control contractors
 
2013-01-09 08:56:52 PM
This shiat makes me sad. Big farking deal. Explain, offer to pay and the store understands. Get over you self absorbed lives IT IS A GROCERY STORE. I see little spoilt shiats gnawing on unbought Kinder Surprises daily.

When did compassion become a relic.
 
2013-01-09 08:57:01 PM

Oznog: Rockstone: voodoomedic: thank god asberger's doesn't exist anymore....I pray that we can keep these human chimps under better control

Though I'm aware you're trolling, Aspergers never should have been part of the Autism spectrum to begin with. As someone who has aspergers under the DSM-IV, (but not classified under the DSM-V), I have always thought this. People with Aspergers have social awkwardness, but do not act in the manner of this article, or in the article calbert linked.

It depends on how wide of a net you cast. Autism has covered a lot of symptoms with no common pathology to link them together. The criteria seems to be "well if it's a severe developmental disorder we can't link it to a genetic or congenital birth defect, or abuse, or chemical exposure, it's 'autism'." Then the logic extended with "ok, so if he/she doesn't display social behavior deemed TYPICAL, we'll just call that the same thing, but 'lighter'." Still no identified mechanism of pathology, much less one demonstrated to be common.

Both Aspergers AND autism encompass such a wide range of symptoms it seems implausible that they're all the same pathology. Different problems are being conflated and that's never good for advancing understanding and treatment.


And they are not, imo.

BUT, modern science is skewwwed by corporatism. Decorporatize to find the mind and environment playing with plastics...

P.S. This has ceased being funny.
 
2013-01-09 08:58:51 PM

sleeps in trees: This shiat makes me sad. Big farking deal. Explain, offer to pay and the store understands. Get over you self absorbed lives IT IS A GROCERY STORE. I see little spoilt shiats gnawing on unbought Kinder Surprises daily.

When did compassion become a relic.


Hiya, Gorgeous.

*blush*
 
2013-01-09 08:59:37 PM

Rockstone: voodoomedic: thank god asberger's doesn't exist anymore....I pray that we can keep these human chimps under better control

Though I'm aware you're trolling, Aspergers never should have been part of the Autism spectrum to begin with. As someone who has aspergers under the DSM-IV, (but not classified under the DSM-V), I have always thought this. People with Aspergers have social awkwardness, but do not act in the manner of this article, or in the article calbert linked.


I agree, Kanners and Aspergers are very different.
 
2013-01-09 09:00:04 PM

Rockstone: Rockstone: voodoomedic: thank god asberger's doesn't exist anymore....I pray that we can keep these human chimps under better control

Though I'm aware you're trolling, Aspergers never should have been part of the Autism spectrum to begin with. As someone who has aspergers under the DSM-IV, (but not classified under the DSM-V), I have always thought this. People with Aspergers have social awkwardness, but do not act in the manner of this article, or in the article calbert linked.

They do however fail at previewing though...


I agree with you. People with Aspergers can function more independently ( self-care) and learn while individual high on the autism spectrum are most likely so severely impaired they cannot live and work without supervision.
 
2013-01-09 09:00:10 PM
I understand that when nature or god chooses to "gift" you with a "special" sort of person, it comes with a series of difficulties above and beyond that of normal parent/siblinghood.

People who choose to be involved in your life need to be understanding about these things. Hell, it's even reasonable to ask neighbors to cut you a little slack, or for your employer to maybe be a little accomodating for certain things. (Such as extra visits to the doctor/ meetings with special school folks/ whatever.)

However, for you to ASSUME that your little burden can run all over the face of the earth, behaving in ways that are socially unacceptable while you either smile indulgently (HE'S EXPRESSING HIMSELF THE ONLY WAY HE KNOWS HOW!) or become offended when people don't care to accomodate your little burden without warning..that's just straight up assholish.

This goes triply for those of you with a burden who "looks normal" (for lack of a better term). If I see some guy who looks 25 running around a bookstore and tossing books off the shelves while babbling, I'm not going to immediately say "Oh, he must be autistic." My assumption is that he's on drugs, or trying to be funny in some hipster sort of way.

You want people to treat you and your kid with dignity, teach your kid to behave with dignity. Even an autistic kid knows right from wrong, if you made the effort to teach him.
 
2013-01-09 09:01:21 PM

Indubitably: Oznog: Rockstone: voodoomedic: thank god asberger's doesn't exist anymore....I pray that we can keep these human chimps under better control

Though I'm aware you're trolling, Aspergers never should have been part of the Autism spectrum to begin with. As someone who has aspergers under the DSM-IV, (but not classified under the DSM-V), I have always thought this. People with Aspergers have social awkwardness, but do not act in the manner of this article, or in the article calbert linked.

It depends on how wide of a net you cast. Autism has covered a lot of symptoms with no common pathology to link them together. The criteria seems to be "well if it's a severe developmental disorder we can't link it to a genetic or congenital birth defect, or abuse, or chemical exposure, it's 'autism'." Then the logic extended with "ok, so if he/she doesn't display social behavior deemed TYPICAL, we'll just call that the same thing, but 'lighter'." Still no identified mechanism of pathology, much less one demonstrated to be common.

Both Aspergers AND autism encompass such a wide range of symptoms it seems implausible that they're all the same pathology. Different problems are being conflated and that's never good for advancing understanding and treatment.

And they are not, imo.

BUT, modern science is skewwwed by corporatism. Decorporatize to find the mind and environment playing with plastics...

P.S. This has ceased being funny.


I don't think so. I think it's more that it's convenient to throw a bunch of disorders together and call it a day. But I do agree that they're not really related. Someone with Aspergers can function normally in society, and in fact, it is well suspected that many of the most intelligent people throughout history had it. However, someone with the extremes of Autism can barely function at all. They're not related.
 
2013-01-09 09:02:35 PM

sleeps in trees: This shiat makes me sad. Big farking deal. Explain, offer to pay and the store understands. Get over you self absorbed lives IT IS A GROCERY STORE. I see little spoilt shiats gnawing on unbought Kinder Surprises daily.

When did compassion become a relic.


True. Still think the sister should supervise him better especially since the article stated that he had done this before.
 
2013-01-09 09:04:44 PM
"special training" for all their employees as a result of this.  I'm sure they're going to love that lady, for making them waste their time on that shiat.
 
2013-01-09 09:04:57 PM
I've got to assume that the security guard wasn't seriously suggesting a leash, but instead using it as a turn of phrase; e.g. "That girl needs to keep her boyfriend on a leash; he's going after other girls at this party."

They're not SERIOUSLY suggesting that. It just means to get control over.
 
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