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2013-01-09 05:25:19 PM
All things that I don't completely agree with are scary, and I wish to deprive 315 million other people of their 2nd amendment rights as a result of my own fear, ignorance and cowardice
 
2013-01-09 05:25:28 PM

HeadLever: Infernalist: Most of the farking retards who stock up on guns and ammo wouldn't know how to change the oil in their cars.

Sure they would. Not hard. Right now reloading supplies are just as hard to find right now as ammo. Besides, many would get rich in the newly created black market.


Infernalist is more or less trollish. Doesn't like facts. What's amusing is that he'll assume that the only people who would be stocking up on firearms would be idiot rednecks. The same rednecks who happily install lifts on their trucks, dick around with the exhaust systems, tuning, etc. The same rednecks who've been doing this for decades. Then, because it fits his argument, he'll go with this sort of nonsense. It's amusing, actually.
 
2013-01-09 05:25:36 PM

Infernalist: HeadLever: Infernalist: Most of the farking retards who stock up on guns and ammo wouldn't know how to change the oil in their cars.

Sure they would. Not hard. Right now reloading supplies are just as hard to find right now as ammo. Besides, many would get rich in the newly created black market.

I personally think it's a miracle worth mentioning that most of them don't choke to death on their own tongues, so perhaps you have a higher degree of optimism regarding their ability to adapt and change.

I think that when it finally happens, 99.999% of the 'from my cold dead hands!' crowd will squeal like a bunch of piglets, hire a bunch of lawyers and when that fails them, they'll wail and scream and gnash their teeth and hide their guns...

And do exactly jack shiat other than whimper and cry to each other on internet message boards.


You sound fat.
 
2013-01-09 05:25:47 PM

Infernalist: duffblue: Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.

How to you intend to reduce gun violence when every single firearm already purchased is grandfathered in?

If I had my way, I'd have the gun factories shut down. Without a steady flood of new guns into the system, the problem will solve itself in about 50 years.

Be glad a real liberal isn't in the President's seat.


Dude....you suck.
 
2013-01-09 05:25:48 PM
/Kind of amusing how a tan color is referred to as dark.

The Army calls the base tan color of their ACU pattern "Flat Dark Earth."

They couldn't just call it tan because there are about 300 shades of tan out there, and gear manufacturers needed a specific name to coordinate their production of everything from nylon webbing to flashlights.

More amusing? The Marine's base tan color is called "Coyote Brown." Why? Because the colorist who selected that shade picked it out of the Ralph Lauren catalog and kept the name.
 
2013-01-09 05:25:59 PM

Giltric: Insatiable Jesus: Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.


How many DGUs would have been unnecessary if the other party didn't have a gun?


Did the guy in Atlanta who was shot by the woman hiding with her 2 kids in the closet have a gun?

I mean maybe he just wanted to scare her or play mousetrap with her kids....



That guy has a strong face!!! lol....
 
2013-01-09 05:26:25 PM

Theburner: President Morsi of Egypt pushed his own agenda through, why shouldn't Obama. It isn't like Obama is an elected official in the country that is supposed to be the poster child for democracy.



Unconstrained by the rule of law and ruling by imperial decree.
 
2013-01-09 05:26:33 PM

Infernalist: I personally think it's a miracle worth mentioning that most of them don't choke to death on their own tongues, so perhaps you have a higher degree of optimism regarding their ability to adapt and change.


Of course you would, kid.
 
2013-01-09 05:27:00 PM

Giltric: Insatiable Jesus: Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.


How many DGUs would have been unnecessary if the other party didn't have a gun?


Did the guy in Atlanta who was shot by the woman hiding with her 2 kids in the closet have a gun?

I mean maybe he just wanted to scare her or play mousetrap with her kids....


He had a crowbar.

And likely would have moved on had she answered the door or made her presence known.
 
2013-01-09 05:27:04 PM

orclover: Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Oldiron_79: Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16

I am curious as to how many individuals who ridiculed expressed concerns of firearm confiscation during the election are now advocating firearm confiscation.

Everybody.

I know, isnt it hilarious?


Little kids getting shot is really hilarious.
 
2013-01-09 05:27:09 PM
95% of Obamites don't care what he does, they worship him.

But that 5% who own guns will get pissed. Believe it or not, many Democrats come from good old boy places and they will lose their seats if they follow Obama on this.

In Burlington, VT of all places there was tons of outrage over the proposed gun ban in the city. The most liberal place on Earth, and people were upset.
 
2013-01-09 05:27:15 PM

Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.


By saying you think that 100,000 lives are saved by guns you're saying that for every homicide that actually happened 6 were prevented by guns. That defensive gun usage causes a 85% drop in the murder rate. That's patently absurd.
 
2013-01-09 05:27:25 PM

fonebone77: Infernalist: HeadLever: Infernalist: Most of the farking retards who stock up on guns and ammo wouldn't know how to change the oil in their cars.

Sure they would. Not hard. Right now reloading supplies are just as hard to find right now as ammo. Besides, many would get rich in the newly created black market.

I personally think it's a miracle worth mentioning that most of them don't choke to death on their own tongues, so perhaps you have a higher degree of optimism regarding their ability to adapt and change.

I think that when it finally happens, 99.999% of the 'from my cold dead hands!' crowd will squeal like a bunch of piglets, hire a bunch of lawyers and when that fails them, they'll wail and scream and gnash their teeth and hide their guns...

And do exactly jack shiat other than whimper and cry to each other on internet message boards.

You sound fat.


You sound angry.
 
2013-01-09 05:27:38 PM
' We have to pass they bill so we can see what's in it' - Nancy Pelosi, Professor Emeritus School of Socialist Dumbf*cks
 
2013-01-09 05:28:12 PM

hasty ambush: RickN99: Damn it! I've been trying to buy an AR-15 for 3 months as my Christmas present to myself. Between the empty shelves and the jacked-up prices, I have been waiting for things to settle down.

This is not helping!

I am in the happy position of having all the guns I need (as opposed to want). A Springfield XD/XDM in .45, a Stoeger coachgun in 12 and 410, and a Walther .22 are on want list

Reloading supplies are my concern.


This^^^^^
 
2013-01-09 05:28:17 PM

HeadLever: Infernalist: I personally think it's a miracle worth mentioning that most of them don't choke to death on their own tongues, so perhaps you have a higher degree of optimism regarding their ability to adapt and change.

Of course you would, kid.


I probably got socks older than you, son.
 
2013-01-09 05:28:40 PM

Infernalist: fonebone77: Infernalist: HeadLever: Infernalist: Most of the farking retards who stock up on guns and ammo wouldn't know how to change the oil in their cars.

Sure they would. Not hard. Right now reloading supplies are just as hard to find right now as ammo. Besides, many would get rich in the newly created black market.

I personally think it's a miracle worth mentioning that most of them don't choke to death on their own tongues, so perhaps you have a higher degree of optimism regarding their ability to adapt and change.

I think that when it finally happens, 99.999% of the 'from my cold dead hands!' crowd will squeal like a bunch of piglets, hire a bunch of lawyers and when that fails them, they'll wail and scream and gnash their teeth and hide their guns...

And do exactly jack shiat other than whimper and cry to each other on internet message boards.

You sound fat.

You sound angry.


Nah, just using about the same level of logic you are.
 
2013-01-09 05:28:49 PM

Gosling: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

It was made the second 20 children died even if Obama sat on his ass. You're just using Obama as a fig leaf to cover up the fact that the shootings themselves cause gun sales to spike. Someone shooting a bunch of innocents is treated as nothing less than a shiny new Black Friday sale at every gun store in America, with a special on the gun that got used. That, in and of itself, is disgusting and abhorrent to watch, and statements like yours only fuel the fire to enact restrictions.



That also came about as Chicago announced its 500th homicide of the year.
I have never owned a gun but if I lived in Chicago I somehow, some way acquire one.
 
2013-01-09 05:28:53 PM

dr-shotgun: /Kind of amusing how a tan color is referred to as dark.

The Army calls the base tan color of their ACU pattern "Flat Dark Earth."

They couldn't just call it tan because there are about 300 shades of tan out there, and gear manufacturers needed a specific name to coordinate their production of everything from nylon webbing to flashlights.

More amusing? The Marine's base tan color is called "Coyote Brown." Why? Because the colorist who selected that shade picked it out of the Ralph Lauren catalog and kept the name.


Now I know.....and knowing is half the battle.

/Kidding aside, thanks for the info update.
 
2013-01-09 05:28:59 PM
I'll consider more restrictions on my guns once they kill as many children as Obama's drone attacks.

/voted for him in 2008, gave money to his campaign
//never again, 3rd party for me here on out
 
2013-01-09 05:29:15 PM

fonebone77: Infernalist: fonebone77: Infernalist: HeadLever: Infernalist: Most of the farking retards who stock up on guns and ammo wouldn't know how to change the oil in their cars.

Sure they would. Not hard. Right now reloading supplies are just as hard to find right now as ammo. Besides, many would get rich in the newly created black market.

I personally think it's a miracle worth mentioning that most of them don't choke to death on their own tongues, so perhaps you have a higher degree of optimism regarding their ability to adapt and change.

I think that when it finally happens, 99.999% of the 'from my cold dead hands!' crowd will squeal like a bunch of piglets, hire a bunch of lawyers and when that fails them, they'll wail and scream and gnash their teeth and hide their guns...

And do exactly jack shiat other than whimper and cry to each other on internet message boards.

You sound fat.

You sound angry.

Nah, just using about the same level of logic you are.


So angry.
 
2013-01-09 05:29:23 PM

you have pee hands: Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.

By saying you think that 100,000 lives are saved by guns you're saying that for every homicide that actually happened 6 were prevented by guns. That defensive gun usage causes a 85% drop in the murder rate. That's patently absurd.


Pretty factual that the assault weapons ban did absolutely nothing to lower crime as well. That doesn't bother libs. Chicago is the MDK capital of the country with very restrictive gun laws. Don't let that stop you.
 
2013-01-09 05:29:25 PM

hbk72777: Deaths from guns are on pace to surpass traffic deaths in the United States by 2015, according to a Bloomberg News study. In 2011, the latest year for which detailed statistics are available, there were 12,664 murders in the US. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms, down 3% from a year earlier."

Hate guns but believe they should be legal.

Cars are safer than they've ever been.Back up cameras, shiat to keep you awake, etc.

What executive order is the dumbass going to pass to stop the other 4000 murders?


He's going to make it super dee duper specially double dog illegal to kill a rich person.
 
2013-01-09 05:29:35 PM

Gosling: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

It was made the second 20 children died even if Obama sat on his ass. You're just using Obama as a fig leaf to cover up the fact that the shootings themselves cause gun sales to spike. Someone shooting a bunch of innocents is treated as nothing less than a shiny new Black Friday sale at every gun store in America, with a special on the gun that got used. That, in and of itself, is disgusting and abhorrent to watch, and statements like yours only fuel the fire to enact restrictions.


Do you understand why?

It's a reaction not to the event, but to the historic pattern of threats and attempted actions by federal politicians every time such an event has happened.

If there was a major media and political blitz to ban the public sales of automobiles every time a senior citizen plowed through a farmer's market, or a drunk driver killed a bunch of children, all in the name of pushing people into public transit and out of private car ownership, I can guarantee you that automobile sales would eventually start spiking every time such an event occurred so people could get a car before they were cut off.

If it was sports cars or muscle cars in particular, I can ABSOLUTELY guarantee you that every Mustang, Camaro, Corvette, Audi R8, Viper, and every other sports car that looked "fast" would be flying off the lot as people who wanted one tried to buy one while before a possible ban.
 
2013-01-09 05:29:40 PM

CynicalLA: orclover: Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Oldiron_79: Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16

I am curious as to how many individuals who ridiculed expressed concerns of firearm confiscation during the election are now advocating firearm confiscation.

Everybody.

I know, isnt it hilarious?

Little kids getting shot is really hilarious.


Won't somebody think of the children?
 
2013-01-09 05:29:50 PM

tricycleracer: FlashHarry: ourbigdumbmouth: I'm cool with only rich people having guns

i keep hearing this talking point. can anyone elucidate?

A poor person can afford a $1000 AR-15, but $3000 is just out of their price range for good.


If they cant cut back on alcohol and smokes to get their AR then maybe it isn't the multitool gun nutters make it out to be.

/would quit smoking if it meant getting a weapon to keep the government in line and my family safe
//doesn't think that weapon exists.
 
2013-01-09 05:29:51 PM

super_grass: In b4 gun nuts complain that Obama is somehow conspiring against them.

NOBODY IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR GUNZ AWAY


Just like he said he won't use the indefinite detention power he singed into law.
 
2013-01-09 05:30:27 PM

duffblue: All things that I don't completely agree with are scary, and I wish to deprive 315 million other people of their 2nd amendment rights as a result of my own fear, ignorance and cowardice


YEp. This is what it boils down to. As I've said, all rifle murders in 2011 amounted to 400. "Assault rifles" were a subset of that already small number. What we're talking about with the anti-"assault" rifle people here is LITERALLY trampling the rights of tens of millions of people over 400 deaths.

The absurdity boggles the mind.
 
2013-01-09 05:30:29 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Giltric: Insatiable Jesus: Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.


How many DGUs would have been unnecessary if the other party didn't have a gun?


Did the guy in Atlanta who was shot by the woman hiding with her 2 kids in the closet have a gun?

I mean maybe he just wanted to scare her or play mousetrap with her kids....

He had a crowbar.

And likely would have moved on had she answered the door or made her presence known.


Well he won't be doing much of this again for the foreseeable future now, will he?
 
2013-01-09 05:30:49 PM
Go ahead. Deliver a majority in the senate to the Republicans with gun control the same way you lost your super majority in the senate and your majority in the house with ObamaCare.
 
2013-01-09 05:31:13 PM

RickN99: Damn it! I've been trying to buy an AR-15 for 3 months as my Christmas present to myself. Between the empty shelves and the jacked-up prices, I have been waiting for things to settle down.

This is not helping!


Bass Pro Shop has the fancy binoculars behind the same counter as the guns. There was a 2 hour wait to even talk to a clerk when I was in there a couple of weeks ago.
 
2013-01-09 05:31:33 PM

Infernalist: duffblue: Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.

How to you intend to reduce gun violence when every single firearm already purchased is grandfathered in?

If I had my way, I'd have the gun factories shut down. Without a steady flood of new guns into the system, the problem will solve itself in about 50 years.

Be glad a real liberal isn't in the President's seat.


Considering I was out shooting my damn near 150 year old mosin nagant yesterday, that is pretty funny.
 
2013-01-09 05:31:46 PM

Dimensio: Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Oldiron_79: Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16

I am curious as to how many individuals who ridiculed expressed concerns of firearm confiscation during the election are now advocating firearm confiscation.

Everybody.

Are you still dishonestly attempting to claim that all AR-15 owners are racists?


Sure, Sparky.
 
2013-01-09 05:32:10 PM

randomjsa: Go ahead. Deliver a majority in the senate to the Republicans with gun control the same way you lost your super majority in the senate and your majority in the house with ObamaCare.


You gun nuts paying attention? Randomjsa is on your side. lol
 
2013-01-09 05:32:27 PM

Giltric: Theburner: Poor people buy AR's, rich people buy SCAR's.

Poor people buy Stags and DPMS....wealthy people buy Noveske and LaRue.


Love my Noveske, 10 1/2" upper. Just waiting on my stamp for an SBR to come back. Hope I get it before the shiat hits the fan.
 
2013-01-09 05:32:41 PM

Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Oldiron_79: Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16

I am curious as to how many individuals who ridiculed expressed concerns of firearm confiscation during the election are now advocating firearm confiscation.

Everybody.

Are you still dishonestly attempting to claim that all AR-15 owners are racists?

Sure, Sparky.


Then you are an admitted liar, and no claim issued by you is credible.
 
2013-01-09 05:32:57 PM

buffalosoldier: Infernalist: duffblue: Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.

How to you intend to reduce gun violence when every single firearm already purchased is grandfathered in?

If I had my way, I'd have the gun factories shut down. Without a steady flood of new guns into the system, the problem will solve itself in about 50 years.

Be glad a real liberal isn't in the President's seat.

Considering I was out shooting my damn near 150 year old mosin nagant yesterday, that is pretty funny.


Planning to do any school massacres with that single shot pos?
 
2013-01-09 05:33:03 PM

mark12A: /if he does an executive order, the civil war will start


At least...in the handicap accessible portions of America.

Fark It: I'll consider more restrictions on my guns once they kill as many children as Obama's drone attacks.


ITT: bombs dropped by unmanned drones are somehow more scary and evil than manned aircraft therefore obama bad
 
2013-01-09 05:33:12 PM
Well, Odouchebag has already used his magical Power Rangers Decree rights more than any president in history, so....

Just sayin.
 
2013-01-09 05:33:21 PM

AbbeySomeone: I can understand rifles and pistols but why do people need the big weaponry ie, assault rifles, etc?


ROFLMAO!
 
2013-01-09 05:33:23 PM

you have pee hands: Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.

By saying you think that 100,000 lives are saved by guns you're saying that for every homicide that actually happened 6 were prevented by guns. That defensive gun usage causes a 85% drop in the murder rate. That's patently absurd.


These are not MY stats.


DGU
 
2013-01-09 05:33:28 PM
I think this is just a way to get the economy moving. Scaring fat pasty white people into buying more guns and ammo. The paranoid losers fall for it every time.
 
2013-01-09 05:33:52 PM
I like how owning one gun makes you a gun nut. Kinda like having one beer makes you an alcoholic, or one joint makes you a rapist.
 
2013-01-09 05:33:57 PM
Interestingly, the Constitution says nothing about the right to manufacture, purchase, or sell arms.

Still, I favor repeal of the second amendment.
 
2013-01-09 05:34:03 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: There is no easy answer, except outlaw guns except for hunting. To be kept at the range locked up when not used.


Or we could really enforce the 2nd Amendment and require all gun owners to meet weekly/monthly at the nearest town square for a few hours of marching practice and basic infantry tactics. Ya know, sort of like a well-regulated militia.

/If that happens, I get dibs on the beer and pork rinds concession stand.
 
2013-01-09 05:34:14 PM

ourbigdumbmouth: I'm cool with only rich white people having guns


Dis is Merika Dambit!
 
2013-01-09 05:34:22 PM

Infernalist: buffalosoldier: Infernalist: duffblue: Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.

How to you intend to reduce gun violence when every single firearm already purchased is grandfathered in?

If I had my way, I'd have the gun factories shut down. Without a steady flood of new guns into the system, the problem will solve itself in about 50 years.

Be glad a real liberal isn't in the President's seat.

Considering I was out shooting my damn near 150 year old mosin nagant yesterday, that is pretty funny.

Planning to do any school massacres with that single shot pos?


You'd be surprised how fast that old rifle can run.

I've put 20 hits on 10 targets with three reloads in less than a 90 seconds. I have video of it as well, although I'm not entirely comfortable posting it here.
 
2013-01-09 05:34:28 PM
Gawdammit Obama! First you make the Republicans vote to block some reasonable controls, THEN you use whatever executive power you can!!

He's just letting the GOP off the hook again.
 
2013-01-09 05:35:13 PM

WordyGrrl: Bit'O'Gristle: There is no easy answer, except outlaw guns except for hunting. To be kept at the range locked up when not used.

Or we could really enforce the 2nd Amendment and require all gun owners to meet weekly/monthly at the nearest town square for a few hours of marching practice and basic infantry tactics. Ya know, sort of like a well-regulated militia.

/If that happens, I get dibs on the beer and pork rinds concession stand.


The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution establishes no such requirement. Your statement is based upon a false and dishonest premise.
 
2013-01-09 05:35:41 PM

Giltric: I have a couple Colts they are good weapons. As accurate as my safe queens are but for half the price


So what are your safe queens?
 
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