If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Guardian)   Obama may issue executive order on gun control, which will immediately triple the price of assault weapons and popcorn   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 1330
    More: Interesting, assault weapons, Biden, presidential executive order, for sale by owner, force of law, semi-automatic rifle  
•       •       •

11847 clicks; posted to Main » on 09 Jan 2013 at 4:52 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



1330 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-01-09 05:14:52 PM  

Dimensio: The_Sponge: Theburner: Giltric: Theburner: Poor people buy AR's, rich people buy SCAR's.

Poor people buy Stags and DPMS....wealthy people buy Noveske and LaRue.

And crazies buy Bushmasters! ;)

Middle class people like me buy Colts.

I purchased a DPMS. What does that imply?


If it works, it works. DPMS is considered lower end but even companies like Del-Ton have come a long way in the past few years. If you're happy with it, consider you made a good decision, and spend the difference on ammo (if you can find it anymore)..
 
2013-01-09 05:14:57 PM  

J.Shelby: I swear he's getting paid by the gun manufacturers.


this
 
2013-01-09 05:15:05 PM  

Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.


Even were such a tax not demonstrably Unconstitutional, it would be easily circumvented through reloading.
 
2013-01-09 05:15:13 PM  

Dimensio: Mr.BobDobalita: super_grass: odinsposse: Oh, and there are about 80,000 alcohol related deaths per year. Cite

Yes but alcohol aren't deadly military-style killing machines designed to kill people harder than your average people-killing pistol.

Plus alcohol is my vice of choice, so hands off.

All rifles, including assault rifles killed ~400 people last year. I would guess Advil killed more.

I can't wrap my head around wanting to remove literally tens of millions of rifles to maybe sorta kinda have a possibility of a chance to reduce 400 murders, even though they probably would have been killed another way for pissing someone off enough to kill someone.

"Assault weapon bans" advocates are irrational, poorly informed and unreasonable. Facts are of absolutely no relevance to their position.


Well not to be all paranoid and conspiracy-ish... but that's what leads me to believe that there's more to this.... we're realistically talking about a VERY small percentage of the murders and people are touting it as if it's going to solve all the problems of the US.

If it was really about saving lives, wouldn't they focus on something that takes much more life than AR-15s?

Also, I keep harping on this. Some of the most conservative estimates of defensive gun uses per year put the numbers at 60-80k. I've heard 100k from an anti-gun university prof. I"ve heard 3-400k from several studies and even 2.5 million (which I don't believe)

So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.
 
2013-01-09 05:15:59 PM  

eatin' fetus: Dimensio: The_Sponge: Theburner: Giltric: Theburner: Poor people buy AR's, rich people buy SCAR's.

Poor people buy Stags and DPMS....wealthy people buy Noveske and LaRue.

And crazies buy Bushmasters! ;)

Middle class people like me buy Colts.

I purchased a DPMS. What does that imply?

If it works, it works. DPMS is considered lower end but even companies like Del-Ton have come a long way in the past few years. If you're happy with it, consider you made a good decision, and spend the difference on ammo (if you can find it anymore)..


I have added a .22LR conversion device to my rifle.

Even .22LR ammunition is difficult to locate, recently.
 
2013-01-09 05:16:19 PM  

Giltric: super_grass: Giltric: super_grass: odinsposse: Oh, and there are about 80,000 alcohol related deaths per year. Cite

Yes but alcohol aren't deadly military-style killing machines designed to kill people harder than your average people-killing pistol.

Plus alcohol is my vice of choice, so hands off.

so your an alchoholic?

Like I am a gun nut?


Yes, but my particular vice's deaths are spread out and rarely occupies an entire news cycle and is more "socially acceptable". There's no particular cluster of killings that people can point to, therefore it's safe.

/s

100k dead via alchohol vs 10k for firearms?

Are you sure you didn;t soak some shrooms in your glass before drinking?


Notice the /s, dude, the /s.

Of course an assault rifle ban is backwards and counterproductive. I'm just pointing out how people overlook the fact that the more acceptable vices like alcohol is deadlier than firearms despite what their emotional rhetoric and reasoning might imply.
 
2013-01-09 05:16:33 PM  

Dimensio: Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.

Even were such a tax not demonstrably Unconstitutional, it would be easily circumvented through reloading.


Most of the farking retards who stock up on guns and ammo wouldn't know how to change the oil in their cars. And you think they'd be able to handle learning how to reload ammo with raw materials? lol
 
2013-01-09 05:16:46 PM  

Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.


You can make them yourself for about 25 cents.
 
2013-01-09 05:16:54 PM  
Good. Wait till they find out what is planned after we take away their guns.
 
2013-01-09 05:17:11 PM  
I think the plan is just to keep saying "We'll do something!" until the gun nuts boil over and lose their shiat.
 
2013-01-09 05:17:18 PM  

Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.



How many DGUs would have been unnecessary if the other party didn't have a gun?
 
2013-01-09 05:17:30 PM  
Assault weapons /= all guns, but hey, don't let that stop the hyperbolic outrage.
cdn.head-fi.org
 
2013-01-09 05:17:38 PM  
Biden did not specify what kind of action the president might take. In the past the Obama administration has used executive orders, which have the force of law, to require gun dealers to report when customers buy multiple high-powered rifles and to increase penalties for violating gun laws. A new order, nearly certain to face legal challenges, could seek to tighten enforcement of laws governing private sales of guns or to beef up background checks.

/You know, this would be fine, if crazy nut jub wackholes would follow the law, and criminals in general. But sadly, they don't. A background check isn't going to do any good for a situation where a guy breaks in and steals the guns, or some guy's son takes them and goes on a rampage. There is no easy answer, except outlaw guns except for hunting. To be kept at the range locked up when not used. And its too late for that, you will never....ever..get everyone to just turn in all their guns. The only people who would, are law abiding folks, the criminals would keep theirs. Duh. The damage has been done already. There are too many guns out there now. No way to get them back unless he can manage a search warrant for every house in the usa.
 
2013-01-09 05:17:48 PM  

Holocaust Agnostic: Why is it absolutely imperative that something *must* be done? Violent crime is half what it was 40 years ago and the decline seems set to continue.


Correction... Violent crime is half what it was TWENTY years ago.
 
2013-01-09 05:17:56 PM  

Mr.BobDobalita: Dimensio: Mr.BobDobalita: super_grass: odinsposse: Oh, and there are about 80,000 alcohol related deaths per year. Cite

Yes but alcohol aren't deadly military-style killing machines designed to kill people harder than your average people-killing pistol.

Plus alcohol is my vice of choice, so hands off.

All rifles, including assault rifles killed ~400 people last year. I would guess Advil killed more.

I can't wrap my head around wanting to remove literally tens of millions of rifles to maybe sorta kinda have a possibility of a chance to reduce 400 murders, even though they probably would have been killed another way for pissing someone off enough to kill someone.

"Assault weapon bans" advocates are irrational, poorly informed and unreasonable. Facts are of absolutely no relevance to their position.

Well not to be all paranoid and conspiracy-ish... but that's what leads me to believe that there's more to this.... we're realistically talking about a VERY small percentage of the murders and people are touting it as if it's going to solve all the problems of the US.

If it was really about saving lives, wouldn't they focus on something that takes much more life than AR-15s?

Also, I keep harping on this. Some of the most conservative estimates of defensive gun uses per year put the numbers at 60-80k. I've heard 100k from an anti-gun university prof. I"ve heard 3-400k from several studies and even 2.5 million (which I don't believe)

So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.


I do not attribute to malice what is easily attributed to incompetence. I believe that most "assault weapons bans" advocates believe that such an imposition would reduce rates of violent crime. I merely recognize that such a belief is not rationally supported by data.
 
2013-01-09 05:18:01 PM  

super_grass: In b4 gun nuts complain that Obama is somehow conspiring against them.

NOBODY IS TRYING TO TAKE YOUR GUNZ AWAY


At the moment, no. But if you read and understand the mechanics of Feinstien's proposed bill - which the President is supporting fully - the government comes and takes them when I die. They cannot be sold to anyone, even another person licensed similarly under the proposed law, nor can they be inherited by my family.

So yes, it absolutely is confiscation. It's just slow, and quiet.

Entirely without incident.
 
2013-01-09 05:18:15 PM  

HeadLever: Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.

You can make them yourself for about 25 cents.


Again, most of the drool-cup champs that cling to their guns are lucky not to get lost in their local Super Walmart and you think they'd be able to learn how to reload ammo that doesn't explode upon firing.
 
2013-01-09 05:18:27 PM  
I really thought it would be a while before we had a president do more damage to civil rights than George Bush.
 
2013-01-09 05:18:48 PM  

Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.


How to you intend to reduce gun violence when every single firearm already purchased is grandfathered in?
 
2013-01-09 05:18:52 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: AbbeySomeone: I can understand rifles and pistols but why do people need the big weaponry ie, assault rifles, etc?

To shoot American soldiers and police officers.

Of course, they don't say that until later in the conversation but they get around to it eventually.


NHA: proud to get in the "showers", as long as they are American "showers".
 
2013-01-09 05:18:55 PM  

Theburner: Poor people buy AR's, rich people buy SCAR's.


I'm neither, although I do have popcorn in the pantry - just double checked.

/will give it up when you pry my cold, dead hands from it

//unless you say "Please," first - then I'll share
 
2013-01-09 05:19:12 PM  
"This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

You know who also liked gun control...
 
2013-01-09 05:19:14 PM  

Empty Matchbook: Assault weapons /= all guns, but hey, don't let that stop the hyperbolic outrage.
[cdn.head-fi.org image 224x207]


"Assault weapon" is an entirely arbitrary classification based upon what a politician wishes to prohibit at a given time. The "assault weapons ban" currently proposed by Senator Dianne Feinstein defines a substantially larger range of firearms as "assault weapons" than did the now-expired federal "assault weapons ban".
 
2013-01-09 05:19:30 PM  

Infernalist: Most of the farking retards who stock up on guns and ammo wouldn't know how to change the oil in their cars.


Sure they would. Not hard. Right now reloading supplies are just as hard to find right now as ammo. Besides, many would get rich in the newly created black market.
 
2013-01-09 05:19:41 PM  

keepitcherry: duffblue: I can't wait to be lectured about my gun rights by an administration responsible for giving guns to Mexican drug cartels.

I hate to be that guy but , THIS. What a farking joke.



blessthe40oz.com

Barack "You can get my drones when you pry them out of my cold, dead fingers"  Obama
 
2013-01-09 05:20:11 PM  

duffblue: Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.

How to you intend to reduce gun violence when every single firearm already purchased is grandfathered in?


If I had my way, I'd have the gun factories shut down. Without a steady flood of new guns into the system, the problem will solve itself in about 50 years.

Be glad a real liberal isn't in the President's seat.
 
2013-01-09 05:20:22 PM  
One of these is enough in a day. I think I'll pass.
 
2013-01-09 05:20:23 PM  

Infernalist: HeadLever: Infernalist: Xcott: Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.

Well, unless he plans on tripling the price by declaring a 200 PERCENT FIREARM TAX.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.

To combat this, what you need to do is have a policy that lets people keep and bear arms, but somehow reduces the raw number of weapons and "enthusiasts" stockpiling assault rifles on every block. A massive tax would probably serve that purpose.

$5000 per bullet should suffice.

You can make them yourself for about 25 cents.

Again, most of the drool-cup champs that cling to their guns are lucky not to get lost in their local Super Walmart and you think they'd be able to learn how to reload ammo that doesn't explode upon firing.


I am certain that you will be able to justify your assertion through reference to actual data. Please do so.
 
2013-01-09 05:20:53 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.


How many DGUs would have been unnecessary if the other party didn't have a gun?



Can you Harry Potter away all the guns then? No? Till then, I'd rather be my family's bodyguard until the cops can show up.
 
2013-01-09 05:21:03 PM  
Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16
 
2013-01-09 05:21:09 PM  

Xaneidolon: Think about the principle of this.

What if he were to issue an executive order eroding some part of the first amendment? Or any of a number of others that you might favor. How would you react?

In my mind, it's the same thing.

Let's be more straightforward. If the 2nd amendment needs to go, amend the constitution. If we need to go to war, let's have Congress make a declaration thereof. Ad naseum.

Recall how most of us felt with the legal, extra-legal, and even ethical gymnastics that occurred to "legalize" torture?

It's just all the same to me.



How the fark did they let you in this thread??? Stop making sense!

/newsletter, please
 
2013-01-09 05:21:11 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: J.Shelby: I swear he's getting paid by the gun manufacturers.

this


That does honestly make more logical sense than any other theory expressed lately. I wish I owned stock in a few gun companies.
 
2013-01-09 05:21:23 PM  

Infernalist: Again, most of the drool-cup champs that cling to their guns are lucky not to get lost in their local Super Walmart and you think they'd be able to learn how to reload ammo that doesn't explode upon firing.


Yes. It is not hard. Those that don't would just buy it on the black market from those of us that would.
 
2013-01-09 05:21:25 PM  
This is like a joke website right?
 
2013-01-09 05:22:01 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.


How many DGUs would have been unnecessary if the other party didn't have a gun?


Also consider Great Britain.... if you're getting your head stomped in by more than 1 guy (sometimes just one big one) you may need to even the odds.... or if you have small children like I do...

GB violent crime is 3-4 times that of the US....
 
2013-01-09 05:22:01 PM  
I doubt that this will happen but if it does I swear to walk up to every person that told me that Obama was a constitutional scholar and can be trusted to uphold the constitution and just slap them silly.
 
2013-01-09 05:22:13 PM  

ronaprhys: Emposter: "We are not going to get caught up in the notion that unless we can do everything we're going to do nothing," Biden said. "It's critically important that we act."

Oh, I'm sure you guys will do something...whether it's a horrible abortion of a bill, twisted into worthlessness as a result of misguided desire to compromise and not piss off the nutwing right, is the actual question.

Or, you know, not shiat on the Constitution. There is that, you know.


I'm not sure how that's relevant to the worthlessness of whatever eventual action is taken. Plenty of worthless proposals are Constitutional, and vis versa.
 
2013-01-09 05:22:45 PM  

Oldiron_79: Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16


I am curious as to how many individuals who ridiculed expressed concerns of firearm confiscation during the election are now advocating firearm confiscation.
 
2013-01-09 05:22:50 PM  

eatin' fetus: The_Sponge: CSB:

I was checking out gunsamerica.com last night, and two guys were selling the same model of Colt AR that I have....one was priced at $2,500....and the other one was $4,000!!!!

LE 6920? Same one here. A really nice rifle.


*High Five*

It's the Magpul edition, "dark earth" color scheme.

/Kind of amusing how a tan color is referred to as dark.
 
2013-01-09 05:22:52 PM  

tnpir: Jaws_Victim: Good. And when crazy pants people like that yelling dude on cnn decide to retaliate, we can put them away forever and make the world a better place.

So were you also waiting and hoping Piers Morgan would rear back and coldcock that motherfarker upside the head?


I would've liked him to call the man unhinged and ended with "Is this the kind of man you really want to own assault weapons?" but I draw the line at physical violence. I felt he held his own against a yelling maniac pretty well.

Skyd1v: Jaws_Victim: Good. And when crazy pants people like that yelling dude on cnn decide to retaliate, we can put them away forever and make the world a better place.

Somehow, I didn't expect our resident TSA flunkie to say anything different.

/nice jack boots


Glad I didn't disappoint, however my opinion has no bearing on my line of work which I do to earn a living.
 
2013-01-09 05:23:01 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Mr.BobDobalita: So we've got 100k-ish defensive gun uses (DGU) where lives were probably saved.... and we've got around 12k gun murders.... 100k lives saved to 12k lives lost.... ummmmm.... maybe I"m bad at math, but seems to me guns save more people than kill.


How many DGUs would have been unnecessary if the other party didn't have a gun?



Did the guy in Atlanta who was shot by the woman hiding with her 2 kids in the closet have a gun?

I mean maybe he just wanted to scare her or play mousetrap with her kids....
 
2013-01-09 05:23:04 PM  

HeadLever: Infernalist: Most of the farking retards who stock up on guns and ammo wouldn't know how to change the oil in their cars.

Sure they would. Not hard. Right now reloading supplies are just as hard to find right now as ammo. Besides, many would get rich in the newly created black market.


I personally think it's a miracle worth mentioning that most of them don't choke to death on their own tongues, so perhaps you have a higher degree of optimism regarding their ability to adapt and change.

I think that when it finally happens, 99.999% of the 'from my cold dead hands!' crowd will squeal like a bunch of piglets, hire a bunch of lawyers and when that fails them, they'll wail and scream and gnash their teeth and hide their guns...

And do exactly jack shiat other than whimper and cry to each other on internet message boards.
 
2013-01-09 05:23:09 PM  
"I'm not gonna to take away your shotguns. I'm not gonna take away your rifles. I'm not gonna take away your handguns"

Remember that guy?
 
2013-01-09 05:23:19 PM  

Vectron: He just made Smith and Wesson's first quarter, a bang on one.


It was made the second 20 children died even if Obama sat on his ass. You're just using Obama as a fig leaf to cover up the fact that the shootings themselves cause gun sales to spike. Someone shooting a bunch of innocents is treated as nothing less than a shiny new Black Friday sale at every gun store in America, with a special on the gun that got used. That, in and of itself, is disgusting and abhorrent to watch, and statements like yours only fuel the fire to enact restrictions.
 
2013-01-09 05:23:29 PM  

ronaprhys: AbbeySomeone: I can understand rifles and pistols but why do people need the big weaponry ie, assault rifles, etc?

You do realize that we're not talking about actual assault rifles, don't you? Those are already heavily regulated. We're talking about semi-automatic rifles that are actually less powerful than many traditional hunting rifles (but are also semi-automatic, lever, or bolt action, depending on the specific rifle). They just look different.


Right. This isn't about "the big weaponry". The Feinstein bill would do nothing about machine guns, rocket launchers, grenades, cannons, etc. Those things are already illegal as hell unless you go through some very rigorous paperwork signed off by the local police chief and the ATF.

What it would do, is make most of the guns in the country overnight into "dangerous military weapons" in the eyes of the law and permit the government to seize them. Basically anything with a detachable magazine, even if the normal magazine is a five-round box, could be construed as an "assault" weapon, because it maybe might just be able to have a large magazine attached instead.

Personally, I'm all for increased and expanded background checks, better tracking of large sales, some additional restrictions of online sales, and I would actually support making detachable magazines over 15 rounds into NFA items (meaning you have to pay a special tax and register them with the government, the same as silencers). I also think it should be required that every firearm sold comes with a tamper-resistant trigger lock provided by the manufacturer (either built into the gun, or removable, as long as it meets a minimum standard).

But this bill that's being proposed? No, it's bullshiat, and it won't save any lives.
 
2013-01-09 05:23:32 PM  

Xcott: Actually, that wouldn't be bad public policy. Newtown happened not because "guns are legal," but because a schizo kid had a goddamn arsenal right there in his house. And that happened because it's become a teatard fad for everyone and your mother to have a badass arsenal for recreational shooting and because society's about to collapse. One of those oodles of heavily armed people is bound to have a schizo kid.


She was fairly wealthy and a bit nuts herself, you aren't going to price her out without pricing out every Appalachian deer hunter too, and in any event there's already 300 million privately owned guns out there.

Unfortunately I think that Norwegian nutbar shows that even with strong gun control you can't prevent someone who's truly pathologically nuts from killing a bunch of people by some means or another.

IMO the best bet is to (1) stop making these guys the #1 story in America for weeks. Focus on the victims, not the criminals with a walkthrough of how they did it, to cut down on copycats. (2) Have a better means of tracing guns so you can penalize people who provide guns to criminals and (3) reform the prison system so we stop making so many career criminals with no other prospects out of marginally farked up 18 year olds.
 
2013-01-09 05:23:34 PM  

Dimensio: Oldiron_79: Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16

I am curious as to how many individuals who ridiculed expressed concerns of firearm confiscation during the election are now advocating firearm confiscation.


Everybody.
 
2013-01-09 05:24:26 PM  

RickN99: Damn it! I've been trying to buy an AR-15 for 3 months as my Christmas present to myself. Between the empty shelves and the jacked-up prices, I have been waiting for things to settle down.

This is not helping!


I am in the happy position of having all the guns I need (as opposed to want). A Springfield XD/XDM in .45, a Stoeger coachgun in 12 and 410, and a Walther .22 are on want list

Reloading supplies are my concern.
 
2013-01-09 05:25:01 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Oldiron_79: Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16

I am curious as to how many individuals who ridiculed expressed concerns of firearm confiscation during the election are now advocating firearm confiscation.

Everybody.


I know, isnt it hilarious?
 
2013-01-09 05:25:04 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Dimensio: Oldiron_79: Get ready for over 2/3 gop house and senate after '14 cycle and a gop potus in'16

I am curious as to how many individuals who ridiculed expressed concerns of firearm confiscation during the election are now advocating firearm confiscation.

Everybody.


Are you still dishonestly attempting to claim that all AR-15 owners are racists?
 
Displayed 50 of 1330 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report