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(New York Magazine)   If Jack Lew is confirmed as Treasury secretary, he's either going to have to change his penmanship or US dollar bills are going to start bearing the most craptacular signature ever   (nymag.com) divider line 158
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2013-01-09 07:23:12 PM

toraque: AngryTeacher: If this is the worst of our problems, we are in pretty good shape.

It's not.  We've just decided to focus on the piddly small problems, since we've given up trying to solve the horrible, world-destroying ones.


after thinking about it .... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:(
 
2013-01-09 07:27:09 PM
Not to sound judgemental myself, but man, what a stupid thing to be so judgemental over. Who cares how he signs his name?

American priorities are baffling. If he scrawled it on his gun, would you still make him change it? Or would that count as registering the firearm?
 
2013-01-09 07:34:50 PM

SkittleBrau: BitwiseShift: Lew could change us over to the Lev, Bulgaria's special currency. While the bills today have a readable signature, the old commie ones didn't.

[thedesigninspiration.com image 552x269]

[www.shopbulgaria.com image 611x300]

Guy on the bill in top pic has bacon chin. Tasty, crispy bacon chin.


Thanks a lot -- now I can't stop seeing that.
 
2013-01-09 07:34:57 PM
Are we certain he wasn't just playing around with a Spirograph or something? O_o
 
2013-01-09 07:38:20 PM

cptjeff: For a few hundred years, it's been the dominant form of written english. It's still in regular use by a whole hell of a lot of people, myself included, and learning to write cursive is how you learn to read it. It's necessary.


Nothing written in cursive is necessary for anyone else to read. If it's imperative that someone else understand, print or type it. Cursive is dead and needs to be buried because it's stinking up the joint.
 
2013-01-09 07:46:00 PM
I hereby offer Sec'y-designate Lew my impeccable cursive version of his name for a one-time fee of $25,000.
farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-01-09 07:46:19 PM

dickfreckle: Thanks for stealing my "worst signature anyone has ever seen" throne. Seriously, people mock mine all the time. Even doctors recoil in horror when they see it. Am not sure how I developed it, but it seems to have happened around college when I had to sign so many forms that one day I said, "Fark it, I'm going in dry" and began scribbling. Prior to that it was legible.

/the lady at the DMV actually said, "Really? This is your signature?"
//she also didn't remind me to take off my baseball cap, so now my license is apparently issue to a retard in a New Orleans Saints hat who can't write his own name


Silver lining: that'll give you a little bit more leeway on a DUI stop.

"Honestly occifer. I'm naturally this idiotic looking!"
 
2013-01-09 07:53:35 PM
Cue the Republicans complaining that Obama didn't do proper vetting again.
 
2013-01-09 07:55:51 PM
I have , for all intents and purposes, forgotten how to write by hand, at least in cursive. I can still print in big caps because my job requires it. I do have a pretty legible signiture.

John Lew's the man, credited with a lot of the Obama win and putting the GOP in the hot seat over the fiscal cliff.

Like Hagel and Kerry, he will be an excellent Cabinet secretary
 
2013-01-09 08:00:59 PM

Nehllah: I acknowledge that you're trolling, but now that everyone can type almost as fast as they can think cursive is pretty pointless.


The most useful class I ever took was keyboarding class when I was in Jr High in the 80s.
 
2013-01-09 08:01:17 PM
Jack LOoooooooOOo
 
2013-01-09 08:05:18 PM

Stranded On The Planet Dumbass: What use are those signatures on credit card machines? I purposely make the most unintelligible scribble I can.
The technology exists that every one of those could be a thumbprint reader, it would do away with a massive amount of CC fraud.


Fun Fact: Those can be defeated by making a cast of a fingerprint with a gummi bear. A mold can be made from a flat image of any fingerprint. Flatten the gummi bear into a thin sheet on the mold, then place onto the fingertip.
 
2013-01-09 08:08:33 PM
That gave me the biggest lol so far this year, and I won't be surprised if it takes me all the way into February.
 
2013-01-09 08:09:00 PM

1. Put snakes on plane: cptjeff: For a few hundred years, it's been the dominant form of written english. It's still in regular use by a whole hell of a lot of people, myself included, and learning to write cursive is how you learn to read it. It's necessary.

Nothing written in cursive is necessary for anyone else to read. If it's imperative that someone else understand, print or type it. Cursive is dead and needs to be buried because it's stinking up the joint.


I'm sorry, but the onus is on you to be able to read and write the english language, and cursive script is still a pretty major part of the written form of the language. If you can't do that, I don't particularly feel like it's my responsibility to go out of my way to accommodate your deficiency. You lacking the basic skills required to read your own language is not really my problem.
 
2013-01-09 08:09:49 PM
It looks more like someone testing a ball point pen to see if it still has ink than a signature.
 
2013-01-09 08:11:21 PM

stu1-1: Ego edo infantia cattus:
[img811.imageshack.us image 320x176]

Wow. The government's obviously out of original ideas.


It must have been intentional, and I'd agree with that decision. Monopoly money would be the most entrenched system of colored currency in many Americans' minds. Why fight it?
 
2013-01-09 08:11:22 PM
Suddenly I have an opinion on this matter!
 
2013-01-09 08:20:22 PM

pudding7: Sounds like a conversation I've had the few times we've refinanced our mortgage.

Bank guy: "sign your name everywhere there's a tab"
Me: "do you want my signature or do you want me to sign my name?"
Bank guy: "Huh?"
Me: "Well, my signature is illegible and no longer has much to do with the letters in my name.  Or I could just write my name in cursive, but that's not really my signature.  Which do you want?"
Bank guy: "Uhm...."

I think we've refinance three times, and each time they seem completely unprepared for this situation.  I can't be the only one who's signature looks nothing like their name.


Wow. You sound like a real ass.
 
2013-01-09 08:22:07 PM
If your name was 'Jack Lew', would you want it to be clearly readable?

/Having the word signature ever on a bill might be an honor.
 
2013-01-09 08:22:10 PM

Thisbymaster: Well the next generation isn't being taught how to write in cursive so this is only going to get worse.


Already has. By the time anyone tried, I was already typing 90WPM, so I wasn't interested in anything other than learning to read it clearly. Still can't read the backward squiggles of some people.

That said, I feel like I put in more effort with my M, line, and two loops.
 
2013-01-09 08:26:16 PM
Signature on money MIGHT look like a scribble?!

i651.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-09 08:32:44 PM
I work at the US Mint, so I'm getting a kick out of some of these responses.
 
2013-01-09 08:35:53 PM
This is the same guy that took a $900,000 bonus at Citibank during the bail out - right? Yup.
 
2013-01-09 08:51:37 PM
Question.....

My signature developed before I was 18. I worked in a ski shop where we set up rental skis. Folks would come in, fill out the rental agreement where they had to give their weight, height, etc.

I would then set up the ski boot bindings based upon the variables filled in by the customers. Part of the process was using a torque device to test the release limits of the binding.

At each step in the process, I had to sign and record the measured release values. It was a total of five signatures per set of skis.

This thread got me thinking..... Was my signature legally binding? I was under 18, yet certified as a technician by the binding manufacturers.
 
2013-01-09 08:56:07 PM

cptjeff: 1. Put snakes on plane: cptjeff: For a few hundred years, it's been the dominant form of written english. It's still in regular use by a whole hell of a lot of people, myself included, and learning to write cursive is how you learn to read it. It's necessary.

Nothing written in cursive is necessary for anyone else to read. If it's imperative that someone else understand, print or type it. Cursive is dead and needs to be buried because it's stinking up the joint.

I'm sorry, but the onus is on you to be able to read and write the english language, and cursive script is still a pretty major part of the written form of the language. If you can't do that, I don't particularly feel like it's my responsibility to go out of my way to accommodate your deficiency. You lacking the basic skills required to read your own language is not really my problem.


"Gosh, I better learn to write in cursive so I can read some random delusional guy's gibberish!" --no one ever
 
2013-01-09 09:03:26 PM

JoeBobMel: Question.....

My signature developed before I was 18. I worked in a ski shop where we set up rental skis. Folks would come in, fill out the rental agreement where they had to give their weight, height, etc.

I would then set up the ski boot bindings based upon the variables filled in by the customers. Part of the process was using a torque device to test the release limits of the binding.

At each step in the process, I had to sign and record the measured release values. It was a total of five signatures per set of skis.

This thread got me thinking..... Was my signature legally binding? I was under 18, yet certified as a technician by the binding manufacturers.


Yes. In that instance, you were not representing yourself, but you were acting on behalf of the shop you were working for. As a duly authorized representative of the business, your signature as a representative of the store is binding on them.

Additionally, under 18, contracts you enter into are voidable, not void. They're valid unless you choose to make them invalid, through means that are dependent on state law (ever wonder why they won't let a 16 year old buy a car without parents countersigning? Somebody sold a car to a 16 girl once, she transferred the ownership to her boyfriend, and voided the contract. No longer in possession of the goods, so she couldn't be forced to return them. Under 18, so incapable of giving full legal consent, allowing her to void the contract). But you weren't signing a contract on your own behalf on any of this, so that doesn't matter at all- you were signing on behalf of the business, which had authorized you to do it, and the corporate person was fully capable of consent to a contract.
 
2013-01-09 09:05:51 PM

1. Put snakes on plane: cptjeff: 1. Put snakes on plane: cptjeff: For a few hundred years, it's been the dominant form of written english. It's still in regular use by a whole hell of a lot of people, myself included, and learning to write cursive is how you learn to read it. It's necessary.

Nothing written in cursive is necessary for anyone else to read. If it's imperative that someone else understand, print or type it. Cursive is dead and needs to be buried because it's stinking up the joint.

I'm sorry, but the onus is on you to be able to read and write the english language, and cursive script is still a pretty major part of the written form of the language. If you can't do that, I don't particularly feel like it's my responsibility to go out of my way to accommodate your deficiency. You lacking the basic skills required to read your own language is not really my problem.

"Gosh, I better learn to write in cursive so I can read some random delusional guy's gibberish!" --no one ever


So, you're admitting that you have absolutely no rebuttal. Got it.
 
2013-01-09 09:08:21 PM

pudding7: Sounds like a conversation I've had the few times we've refinanced our mortgage.

Bank guy: "sign your name everywhere there's a tab"
Me: "do you want my signature or do you want me to sign my name?"
Bank guy: "Huh?"
Me: "Well, my signature is illegible and no longer has much to do with the letters in my name.  Or I could just write my name in cursive, but that's not really my signature.  Which do you want?"
Bank guy: "Uhm...."

I think we've refinance three times, and each time they seem completely unprepared for this situation.  I can't be the only one who's signature looks nothing like their name.


I had a similar problem when I did a refi, and they also acted like I was the first person ever to have the issue. They told me that my signature had to legibly include every letter of my name, which my normal signature definitely does not. I told them that I could do that, but it wouldn't be my normal signature and likely wouldn't look the same each time. After watching me try this on scrap paper several times, they relented and let me use my normal signature, but told me there would probably be paperwork issues with this. Never had a problem.

They were also extremely anal about signatures not crossing the top or bottom line of a given field, which was annoying and required using spares multiple times.

/ cool signature bro
 
2013-01-09 09:21:17 PM

cptjeff: Additionally, under 18, contracts you enter into are voidable, not void.


I'd always figured it was on the business's and manufacturer's liability. Just had never given any thought as to the age until now...

Yup. My signature is a mess.
 
2013-01-09 09:35:19 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-09 09:41:36 PM
Hmmm. If you change the first letters in Jack Lew around, you get "Lack Jew."

Does Obama's cabinet have any Jews in it? Is this his way of trolling the Jewish population and punishing Israel?

Think about it.
 
2013-01-09 09:48:03 PM
I, for one, welcome our new loopy-schwoopy overlords.
 
2013-01-09 10:03:23 PM
Uh, Lew is Jewish. His name is Jacob J. Lew. I think that's the name he's signing as his signature. Looks more like Jacob than Jack.
 
2013-01-09 10:12:47 PM

CipollinaFan: So the new Treasury Secretary is OoooooO?


THIS.

/Does he not know cursive? Those aren't  letters, they're spirals.
 
2013-01-09 11:13:52 PM
pixel.nymag.com
 
2013-01-09 11:15:54 PM
I hope he doesn't change it. At least sign your real signature to those bogus bucks.
 
2013-01-09 11:20:06 PM

Glancing Blow: [www.vintoniowa.org image 640x373]


p.twimg.com
It's Herbie Hancock, durrrrrrr....
 
2013-01-09 11:41:18 PM

911Jenny: pudding7: Sounds like a conversation I've had the few times we've refinanced our mortgage.

Bank guy: "sign your name everywhere there's a tab"
Me: "do you want my signature or do you want me to sign my name?"
Bank guy: "Huh?"
Me: "Well, my signature is illegible and no longer has much to do with the letters in my name.  Or I could just write my name in cursive, but that's not really my signature.  Which do you want?"
Bank guy: "Uhm...."

I think we've refinance three times, and each time they seem completely unprepared for this situation.  I can't be the only one who's signature looks nothing like their name.

People make comments on my signature all the time. One cashier actually cleared mine off the digital pad and told me to use my real one. I said it was and showed her my license and FOID card.

Everyone says I made it up but when I write my name in cursive next to my signature is when they can suddenly see the J,q, and s. it just mutated along the years.

Someone once asked if it would change should I get married and change my last name. I really don't know.


I have two signatures, basically.  I have to sign off on stuff at work all the stupid time, for credit card slips, etc., and it's illegible but unique, fairly consistent, and damn quick.  For anything official, I have something that's still unique but fair more legible, and takes more annoying time.. so that one for drivers license, taxes, etc.  I just do the quick illegible but unique one for the bank 'cause they know me anyway, unless there's a new teller.

As I've grown older, essentially, my signature's just changed into my Dad's, and more or less is just 5 lines even though my name has 16 letters.

/I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU, DAD.
 
2013-01-09 11:48:36 PM
It could have been worse, what I Prince was our Treasury Sec.?
 
2013-01-09 11:55:17 PM

Lydia_C: I used to be able to sign my name in cursive just fine, until one trip overseas when I had to countersign about 40 travelers cheques in a row. Something broke that day and I've never been able to easily write my name in cursive since. In fact, my signature has gotten progressively more minimalist with time. Only the capital L in my first name is consistently recognizable any more.

/usually write in a highly connected print
//even there I've begun to scrawl through words and drop parts of letters


I wonder if everyone's tendency to do that with handwriting has anything to do with why we're able to discern words based on first & last letters and general shape. A few studies have found that the innards can be as jumbled as you want as long as they're roughly the same up and down strokes, and you can still read nearly as fast as usual.
 
2013-01-10 01:02:20 AM
CSB time:

When I trained in pro-wrestling, one of the traveling and off-time things my trainer did (And he was very big on the non-ring stuff... the things that make you a good character) was to learn to sign things. Signing our name - not our real name of course, and not our real signature, but our character or a fake version of our signature. Fake because use your "Real" signature and people could try to sign checks with it. Heels signed with sharp points and very fast - like they didn't want to do it. Faces sign with loopy, interesting, clean letters that look distinctive and are friendly.

For about 3 months after a day of signing a notebook repeatedly as my character at the time while on a long train ride I couldn't sign my real signature. It permanently changed how I do it in real life - everyone says I have an awesome signature.

/no, no examples
//no, I never got anywhere wrestling, got hurt before I got to do anything fun
///and McMahon sucks.
 
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2013-01-10 01:41:25 AM
all i know is that my previous very nice handwriting is practically illegible these days... thanks to the last 15-20 years of using a computer as a primary means of writing anything. even worse now that i don't even use it to write shopping lists / to-do lists (thanks smartphone).

in high school / college my mom could write in cursive in a mirror image faster than she could normally. would take all her notes that way. it looks pretty weird. but if you hold it to a mirror it looks just like it would had she written it correctly. /csb
 
2013-01-10 01:50:20 AM

theknuckler_33: Thisbymaster: Well the next generation isn't being taught how to write in cursive so this is only going to get worse.

My kid is in 4th grade and has learned cursive... in public school.

Her penmanship is better than mine.


I was required to use nothing but cursive in the 4th grade(back in 1980). Soon as it was over, no more of that.

"But your handwriting was so nice!"
"Yeah, it took me 2 seconds per letter for everything!"
 
2013-01-10 02:18:01 AM
I remember a couple of times doing temp work for the IRS in my younger years, processing quarterly payments, and they insisted I sign with my full first name and middle name.. well, I don't sign anything as Alexander.. but it was their way. Then they had me do it again, left handed.. just to make sure no one could ever read it at all.
 
2013-01-10 02:44:24 AM
He probably should have tried to get the ink to flow from the pen on some scrap paper first before trying to sign.

Also, my original signature was basically cursive and far too legible and orderly for a "proper" signature. It took years to learn to write my own name worse and worse until it was an acceptable signature.
 
2013-01-10 03:05:13 AM

Stranded On The Planet Dumbass: What use are those signatures on credit card machines? I purposely make the most unintelligible scribble I can.
The technology exists that every one of those could be a thumbprint reader, it would do away with a massive amount of CC fraud.


Unlike my fingerprints, I don't leave my signature on literally everything I pick up or touch.
 
2013-01-10 04:55:53 AM
Francis E Spinner had the baddest signature on US currency.

upload.wikimedia.org

Here it is on the 1869 $10 "Jackass" note. Click to go to larger version.

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When our former President Abe Lincoln got a hold of some of these new notes, he remarked to his cabinet how unique the signature was and much labor it would be for Spinner to sign all these notes. He didn't seem to understand that the signature was printed and not signed.
 
2013-01-10 06:00:34 AM
"In June 2006, Lew was named chief operating officer of Citigroup's Alternative Investments unit, a proprietary trading group. The unit he oversaw invested in a hedge fund "that bet on the housing market to collapse.""


Great, just what we need. Exchanging one crooked Wall Street insider (Geithner) that was an accessory to the financial Crash of 2008 for another (Lew).

Whether Democrat or Republican, TBTB that run and own this country can't be stopped.
 
2013-01-10 06:04:25 AM
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"Lew's nomination was followed with criticism[32][33][34][35] after renewed reports that he received over $900,000 in bonuses while working as COO of Citigroup, following the company's $45 billion in TARP rescue funds"


Hmmm, no conflict of interest there.

The fox guarding the henhouse...
 
2013-01-10 07:40:05 AM
Hey guys, *tells a fascinating story about my signature*. I'm glad we had this talk
 
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