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(The Hollywood Gossip)   Bill Maher makes joke $5 million bet with Donald Trump for him to release birth certificate to prove he isn't "spawn of his mother having sex with an orangutan;" Trump releases birth certificate, demands Maher to pay up or there will be hell toupee   (thehollywoodgossip.com) divider line 41
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2013-01-09 01:02:30 PM
7 votes:
We need the long form certificate.
2013-01-09 12:57:51 PM
7 votes:
looks fake to me

/why did it take Trump so long to release it? I'm just asking questions.
2013-01-09 02:41:16 PM
6 votes:

DeltaPunch: Only Donald Trump would actually produce his birth certificate when someone accuses his mother of having sex with a monkey.
"Nu-uh... look, you're wrong! It says right here, my dad is human! Ha ha... you LOSE! Now pay up!"


Nowhere on this birth certificate does it specify that one "Fred C. Trump" is a human rather than an orangutan or other ape:
1-ps.googleusercontent.com

So the question of Trump's parents' species is still an open question.  There's nothing about the name "Fred" that establishes Trump's father as human.  Quite the contrary, in fact--it should be noted that one of the most popular TV figures of that era was, in fact, a chimpanzee who starred on the Today Show:

4.bp.blogspot.com

The name of that chimp?  Why, of course, it was J. Fred Muggs, the same first name as Trump's father.  Coincidence, or something more?  I'm just asking questions.
2013-01-09 01:04:37 PM
6 votes:
It's truly amazing that The Donald would make a big deal out of the fact that Obama hadn't released the original long form birth certificate, and then in order to satisfy a (clearly joke) bet, he releases something other than the original long form birth certificate.
2013-01-09 02:39:53 PM
4 votes:
I don't wish to speak of The Donald anymore.
2013-01-09 01:53:25 PM
4 votes:
How do we know his father wasn't a circus orangutan named Fred C. Trump? It is a perfectly reasonable question to ask. I see no note of his species on this. I cry fake. FAKE. Also, something pixels something.
2013-01-09 04:43:46 PM
3 votes:

hdhale: Maher won the Biggest Douche Bag Award years ago with this:

"We have been the cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly."

From that point forward, so far as I'm concerned, Bill Maher could die in fire and I would dance.


This drives me crazy, and I apologize for picking on you for it, but you raised the point..

While I disagree with the part of his statement that referenced the U.S. military (they are not cowardly), his comment about the terrorists was dead on if you stop and think about it for a second.  Although I have no problem calling them evil, despicable and misguided, they weren't cowards based on what they actually believed.  Yes, I believe that their beliefs are 100% WRONG, but if a guy believes his god wants him to kill innocent infidels and will reward him for accepting his holy mission of jihad, well then piloting a plane into a building at the cost of one's own life isn't "cowardly".

Let me be crystal clear here: in NO WAY am I praising, accepting or otherwise even CLOSE to justifying terrorism or the 9/11 terrorists.  They are terrorists, which means they are the worst the world has to offer and they should all die.  That being said, being cowardly just isn't a factually-accurate descriptor.  It just isn't.  And Bill wasn't wrong about that.
2013-01-09 04:12:43 PM
3 votes:
Nuke them both from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
2013-01-09 01:07:50 PM
3 votes:
Hopefully the charities actually receive something from this. Otherwise, it's just more posturing by both the Donald and Maher.
2013-01-09 04:36:43 PM
2 votes:
All Bill Maher has to do is deny that it is real.
2013-01-09 04:35:47 PM
2 votes:

Richard Flaccid: Pay up Maher. A bet is a bet, and it's for charity.

Both are douche bags though.


Maher won the Biggest Douche Bag Award years ago with this:

"We have been the cowards lobbing cruise missiles from 2,000 miles away. That's cowardly. Staying in the airplane when it hits the building, say what you want about it, it's not cowardly."

From that point forward, so far as I'm concerned, Bill Maher could die in fire and I would dance.

Not that Donald Trump isn't an incredible douche bag of course, just a shrewder one.

Pay up, Bill or STFU and GTFO.
2013-01-09 04:34:19 PM
2 votes:
Trump vs Maher

Whomever loses, we win.
2013-01-09 04:22:43 PM
2 votes:
They're both idiots. Who cares?
2013-01-09 04:15:16 PM
2 votes:
durbnpoisn:How did this guy ever get so rich?!

mostly by losing other people's money
2013-01-09 04:14:59 PM
2 votes:
not a huge fan of trump..

but OH GOD do I want to beat maher with a hammer
2013-01-09 04:13:48 PM
2 votes:
dick v. dick
2013-01-09 04:12:53 PM
2 votes:
I think Fred C. Trump is a fine name for an orang-utan.
2013-01-09 04:06:38 PM
2 votes:
Can't we just put them both away for illegal gambling? I think a lot of people on all sides would be happier if that happened.
2013-01-09 03:57:37 PM
2 votes:

Cyberluddite: It's truly amazing that The Donald would make a big deal out of the fact that Obama hadn't released the original long form birth certificate, and then in order to satisfy a (clearly joke) bet, he releases something other than the original long form birth certificate.


Take a normal human - remove reason, accountability, ethics and the ability to self-criticize - then realize that Trump is actually a worse person and you'll never question anything he ever does again.
2013-01-09 03:49:12 PM
2 votes:
1) Short form
2) Dot-matrix print
3) Bar code
4) Doesn't prove Fred Trump wasn't an orangutan

Clearly this document is fake, and now Ivanka Trump had to release nude pics of herself.
2013-01-09 03:45:45 PM
2 votes:
What about Colbert's offer, Trump? Huh?
2013-01-09 01:54:48 PM
2 votes:

Voiceofreason01: looks fake to me

/why did it take Trump so long to release it? I'm just asking questions.


And why didn't the attending physician sign it? Why!?!?
2013-01-10 03:48:12 AM
1 votes:
The Maher-Cowardly thing is the biggest post-911 idiocy litmus test and lots of people failed it.

Maher's statement was intentionally not delicate or egg shell-walking. It's a deliberate test to determine if a person's critical thinking skills are still in the driver's seat (if they ever were) in the face of emotional pressures. It's like the statement, "the Nazis were sure snazzy dressers." There are basically two types of people, those that can separate the fact that Nazis were rather fashionable and that they committed atrocities as two independent ideas, and those that can't. The latter group are not critical thinkers, they are simple thinkers. If a group is bad, everything about them is bad. If a group is good everything about them is good. If a geological science authority says something about geology then it must be true because of his authority. Lots of logical fallacies flourish in the company of simple thinkers.

The introspective accept or at least entertain the notion that some cultural or moral relativism was in play and however misguided the psychological mechanisms inherent in our enemies are the same as those present in us. There isn't some magical "evilonium" element coursing through their veins nor is our position spotlessly noble.

By reacting in a "pitchforks and torches" manner to the statement you are basically raising a huge flag over your head indicating you aren't thinking.
2013-01-09 07:53:25 PM
1 votes:

Molavian: Ah, Bill Maher. The Rush Limbaugh of the left.


False equivalency. For obvious reasons.
2013-01-09 07:27:42 PM
1 votes:
Ah, Bill Maher. The Rush Limbaugh of the left.
2013-01-09 05:51:02 PM
1 votes:

Trivia Jockey: While I disagree with the part of his statement that referenced the U.S. military (they are not cowardly), his comment about the terrorists was dead on if you stop and think about it for a second.  Although I have no problem calling them evil, despicable and misguided, they weren't cowards based on what they actually believed.  Yes, I believe that their beliefs are 100% WRONG, but if a guy believes his god wants him to kill innocent infidels and will reward him for accepting his holy mission of jihad, well then piloting a plane into a building at the cost of one's own life isn't "cowardly".

Let me be crystal clear here: in NO WAY am I praising, accepting or otherwise even CLOSE to justifying terrorism or the 9/11 terrorists.  They are terrorists, which means they are the worst the world has to offer and they should all die.  That being said, being cowardly just isn't a factually-accurate descriptor.  It just isn't.  And Bill wasn't wrong about that.


And the number of qualifiers you had to put into those paragraphs are exactly why he stepped into a hornet's nest.

But, while we're on that topic, he's certainly correct that there's nothing particularly brave about push-button warfare.  I will absolutely agree that troops who are facing mortal peril deserve to be called brave, but bombing people with cruise missiles or attacking them with drones isn't in any meaningful sense of the word.

It may be effective, it may be tactically smart, and it may have any amount of practical value, but it just isn't brave. You may as well claim bravery for playing Halo.

Bill's real sin on that one was a failure to recognize just how hurt and, frankly, irrational everyone was feeling in the immediate aftermath of a traumatic event. On the other hand, wasn't the very name of the show Politically Incorrect?
2013-01-09 04:57:29 PM
1 votes:
Maher made this joke on the Jay Leno show.

So the real news here is that somebody still watches Jay Leno
2013-01-09 04:54:31 PM
1 votes:

Sock Ruh Tease: Trump really needs this money or he's going to go bankrupt again.


Came here to say this. Leaving satisfied, knowing it'll all comb over eventually.
2013-01-09 04:34:26 PM
1 votes:
Worth it. History shows that Trump had to prove he wasn't the spawn of his mother having sex with an orangutan, willingly showed proof, rather than laughing it off, even though he didn't need the money.
So he's either overly vain or overly avaricious, Either way, history will show he was an asshole.
2013-01-09 04:29:43 PM
1 votes:
There are zero likable people involved in this.
2013-01-09 04:26:23 PM
1 votes:
Pay up Maher. A bet is a bet, and it's for charity.

Both are douche bags though.
2013-01-09 04:11:14 PM
1 votes:
It just looks to me that Trump is being his typical douchy self.

News flash, Mr. Trump... When someone like Bill Mahr makes a bet in a monologue on his show, that is hardly a legally binding agreement. And you are an idiot.

How did this guy ever get so rich?!
2013-01-09 04:07:34 PM
1 votes:
It has VOID stamped all over it, too. Nice try, Sasquatch.
2013-01-09 04:07:08 PM
1 votes:
Awesome.

Between this and the Piers Morgan v Alex Jones boxing match, I am entertained.
2013-01-09 04:01:25 PM
1 votes:
Am I remembering wrong, or did Trump offer up a couple of million for Obama's BC?
2013-01-09 03:11:07 PM
1 votes:
Trump really needs this money or he's going to go bankrupt again.
2013-01-09 02:45:42 PM
1 votes:
That's not a birth certificate.  It's a certification of birth.

What are you hiding, "Donald?"
2013-01-09 02:30:59 PM
1 votes:
Only Donald Trump would actually produce his birth certificate when someone accuses his mother of having sex with a monkey.

"Nu-uh... look, you're wrong! It says right here, my dad is human! Ha ha... you LOSE! Now pay up!"
2013-01-09 02:17:54 PM
1 votes:

m3000: We need the long form certificate.


Bull. We need DNA sequencing of Trump, his parents, and a statistically meaningful sample of orangutans.


....and even then.....
2013-01-09 02:15:24 PM
1 votes:

Voiceofreason01: looks fake to me

/why did it take Trump so long to release it? I'm just asking questions.


It says VOID all over it.... I mean, come on!
2013-01-09 01:59:06 PM
1 votes:
They didn't have dot matrix printers back in 1946. Maher should demand the original.
 
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