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(The Hollywood Gossip)   Bill Maher makes joke $5 million bet with Donald Trump for him to release birth certificate to prove he isn't "spawn of his mother having sex with an orangutan;" Trump releases birth certificate, demands Maher to pay up or there will be hell toupee   (thehollywoodgossip.com) divider line 134
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2013-01-09 07:27:42 PM
Ah, Bill Maher. The Rush Limbaugh of the left.
 
2013-01-09 07:35:57 PM

Trivia Jockey: FritzyvonFritz: That said, I understand your point, that on a personal level it takes something ( which I hesitate to call bravery, but yea) to pull off the actual act. It's just that like with most things, it's relative, and there's really no need to give them the benefit of the doubt here..

OK, I see your point.

I would say that "cowardly" is sitting in the relative safety of one's home country and celebrating the loss of innocent life, but we'd just be arguing semantics at that point.

I merely think that people jumped all over Maher for the comment without even giving it any actual thought, because "OMG you can't say something about the terrorists that isn't negative!"  They assumed that by denying the terrorists were "cowards" Bill was in some way praising them, which he clearly wasn't.


Do you guys get paid per post or per response?
 
2013-01-09 07:53:11 PM

Broktun: give me doughnuts: 4) Doesn't prove Fred Trump wasn't an orangutan

The "birth certificate" does not, per se, but if his father was an orangutan, the Donald would have been sterile and unable to father children.
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She has decent hair, she's obviously adopted.
 
2013-01-09 07:53:25 PM

Molavian: Ah, Bill Maher. The Rush Limbaugh of the left.


False equivalency. For obvious reasons.
 
2013-01-09 07:58:49 PM

Some 'Splainin' To Do:   (Long post snipped)


Well said. Can't much argue with that.
 
2013-01-09 08:00:15 PM

dericwater: Just keep demanding the long form or the extra long form or the extra special form. Eventually, it'll be something that doesn't exist and when the Donald says, there's no such thing, claim that he's hiding information about his origins.


Exactly.  Trump has walked right into the trap that Maher set for him.  Now Maher will throw back in Trump's face all the bullshiat reasons they've rejected President Obama's birth certificate and other proof of the fact he was born in the US.

And combover dumbass probably didn't realilze that.
 
2013-01-09 09:23:03 PM
It's always a "clearly joking" bet until it's made by someone in the other political party.
 
2013-01-09 09:23:43 PM
I will not insult DoucheBags by caling Bill Maher one

Pay up, Maher

And....your real Birth Certifcate is up next, Bronco Bama. If it's in Hawaii
 
2013-01-09 09:25:30 PM

elvindeath: Both are douches. I find Trump less of a douche than Maher. Plus, Trump gave the world Ivanka - what has Maher ever done ?


He nailed Ann Coulter....
 
2013-01-09 09:38:37 PM
The thing about bill maher and the "cowards" statement, was that he was just vaguely agreeing with something Dinesh D'souza had said secodns before, on the show.
You know Dinesh D'souza, the tea party sweetheart and man behind the movie 2016?

D'souza made these exact same comments, to which maher was replying, and maher got ostracized.

Fark you and your short memoried teabagging nonsense.

Best part, Maher waited to confront D'souza until 2012, when he invited him on to Real time.

Forward to 7:00 for when Maher throws him under the bus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09i2YvLPZuE (NSFW Language)

I don't necessaruily agree with either of their comments, but, both had the right to say them, and apparently only Maher got Dixie Chicked. D'souzas a patriot.
 
2013-01-09 09:40:33 PM
Actually, he starts at 6:00, gives the backstory.
 
2013-01-09 09:49:35 PM

Molavian: Ah, Bill Maher. The Rush Limbaugh of the left.


Smoking weed = fellating Dominican Boy penis
 
2013-01-09 10:14:28 PM

Reality Asylum: natas6.0: not a huge fan of trump..

but OH GOD do I want to beat maher with a hammer

This. It's really hard to choose sides when there are two monumental douche-nozzles involved. Both of these farkwads can be beaten to death with a bag of dicks and die screaming for all I care.

 
2013-01-09 10:38:17 PM

DancingElkCondor: elvindeath: Both are douches. I find Trump less of a douche than Maher. Plus, Trump gave the world Ivanka - what has Maher ever done ?

He nailed Ann Coulter....


He didn't nail her to a wall with railroad spikes, so that's hardly an accomplishment.
 
2013-01-09 10:40:49 PM

tripleseven: I don't necessaruily agree with either of their comments, but, both had the right to say them, and apparently only Maher got Dixie Chicked. D'souzas a patriot.


If it makes you feel any better know that at least this farker has the exact same level of respect for both of them. The Dixie Chicks were in my estimation no different than any other self-absorbed entertainers so enthralled with the bully pulpit that fame has afforded them that they cannot possibly see why anyone wouldn't consider everything coming out of their song holes as important. They did little but help divide things even more and then got all weepy because other Americans got to have their voices heard in what amounted to a 3 ring derp circus when it was all over.
 
2013-01-09 11:13:23 PM

trappedspirit: tripleseven: I don't necessaruily agree with either of their comments, but, both had the right to say them, and apparently only Maher got Dixie Chicked. D'souzas a patriot.

If it makes you feel any better know that at least this farker has the exact same level of respect for both of them. The Dixie Chicks were in my estimation no different than any other self-absorbed entertainers so enthralled with the bully pulpit that fame has afforded them that they cannot possibly see why anyone wouldn't consider everything coming out of their song holes as important. They did little but help divide things even more and then got all weepy because other Americans got to have their voices heard in what amounted to a 3 ring derp circus when it was all over.


I'm not sure who the two you have equal contempt for, is it Maher and D'spuza? Or maher and the Dixie Chicks? I only used Dixie Chicks as a euphemism.

In any case, my point being: D'souza said exactly the same thing Maher said, before Maher even said it, yet Maher was ostraczed.
D'souza got a pass because, well, he's a conservative, and Maher, well, he's a Pinko Atheist Commie.
Maher was being a bit smarmy when when he said to D'souza the he was attacked because he was famous, and D'souza was a nobody.

So, It's OK for the Tea Party to embrace D'souza, yet attack Maher, cause patriotism, and he made that great move.
 
2013-01-09 11:17:16 PM

Broktun: give me doughnuts: 4) Doesn't prove Fred Trump wasn't an orangutan

The "birth certificate" does not, per se, but if his father was an orangutan, the Donald would have been sterile and unable to father children.
[cdn01.cdn.justjared.com image 770x1222]


You're assuming the Donald is her biological father.
 
2013-01-09 11:20:23 PM

tripleseven: I'm not sure who the two you have equal contempt for, is it Maher and D'spuza? Or maher and the Dixie Chicks? I only used Dixie Chicks as a euphemism.

In any case, my point being: D'souza said exactly the same thing Maher said, before Maher even said it, yet Maher was ostraczed.
D'souza got a pass because, well, he's a conservative, and Maher, well, he's a Pinko Atheist Commie.
Maher was being a bit smarmy when when he said to D'souza the he was attacked because he was famous, and D'souza was a nobody.

So, It's OK for the Tea Party to embrace D'souza, yet attack Maher, cause patriotism, and he made that great move.


Well, I didn't mention holding them in contempt. And I was talking about Maher and D'spuza. There's maybe one Dixie Chick song I think I liked.

And I thought you were being, ... well, different about this issue. When D'souza says "they weren't cowards", and Maher says, "Correct, but we are", they aren't saying the same thing.
 
2013-01-09 11:20:34 PM

tripleseven: trappedspirit: tripleseven: I don't necessaruily agree with either of their comments, but, both had the right to say them, and apparently only Maher got Dixie Chicked. D'souzas a patriot.

If it makes you feel any better know that at least this farker has the exact same level of respect for both of them. The Dixie Chicks were in my estimation no different than any other self-absorbed entertainers so enthralled with the bully pulpit that fame has afforded them that they cannot possibly see why anyone wouldn't consider everything coming out of their song holes as important. They did little but help divide things even more and then got all weepy because other Americans got to have their voices heard in what amounted to a 3 ring derp circus when it was all over.

I'm not sure who the two you have equal contempt for, is it Maher and D'spuza? Or maher and the Dixie Chicks? I only used Dixie Chicks as a euphemism.

In any case, my point being: D'souza said exactly the same thing Maher said, before Maher even said it, yet Maher was ostraczed.
D'souza got a pass because, well, he's a conservative, and Maher, well, he's a Pinko Atheist Commie.
Maher was being a bit smarmy when when he said to D'souza the he was attacked because he was famous, and D'souza was a nobody.

So, It's OK for the Tea Party to embrace D'souza, yet attack Maher, cause patriotism, and he made that great move.


It's late
I may have misunderstood your comment.

Not sure if you have actual repesct for d'souza and maher, or if it is high, or littel.
 
2013-01-10 12:18:56 AM

tripleseven: It's late
I may have misunderstood your comment.

Not sure if you have actual repesct for d'souza and maher, or if it is high, or littel.


No worries. And it's definitely littel.
 
2013-01-10 12:25:44 AM
God damn, you'd think Trump could afford better Photoshop experts.
 
2013-01-10 12:28:12 AM

DancingElkCondor: I will not insult DoucheBags by caling Bill Maher one

Pay up, Maher


Nice try, Short-Former. You couldn't get a free birthday cone at Baskin-Robbins with that obvious forgery.
 
2013-01-10 12:33:58 AM

DancingElkCondor: I will not insult DoucheBags by caling Bill Maher one

Pay up, Maher

And....your real Birth Certifcate is up next, Bronco Bama. If it's in Hawaii


You can't tell me that you think that thing Trump released is the real thing.

I mean, just look at it. Such an obvious fake that it's an insult to think anyone would be fooled by it.
 
2013-01-10 12:35:25 AM
In a properly organized world Bill Maher would be put to sleep
 
2013-01-10 02:24:15 AM

nakedcritic: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I don't think the orangutan sex was consensual. I'm just saying.

Well if it was a "legitimate rape", Mama Trump's body would have shut that down.


How do we know that the orangutang wasn't the victim?
 
2013-01-10 02:25:02 AM

Trivia Jockey: his comment about the terrorists was dead on if you stop and think about it for a second.


It is cowardly to kill yourself, because it takes courage to face the consequences of your actions, and ensuring that you will never have to is cowardly in the extreme.
 
2013-01-10 03:21:14 AM

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Trivia Jockey: While I disagree with the part of his statement that referenced the U.S. military (they are not cowardly), his comment about the terrorists was dead on if you stop and think about it for a second.  Although I have no problem calling them evil, despicable and misguided, they weren't cowards based on what they actually believed.  Yes, I believe that their beliefs are 100% WRONG, but if a guy believes his god wants him to kill innocent infidels and will reward him for accepting his holy mission of jihad, well then piloting a plane into a building at the cost of one's own life isn't "cowardly".

Let me be crystal clear here: in NO WAY am I praising, accepting or otherwise even CLOSE to justifying terrorism or the 9/11 terrorists.  They are terrorists, which means they are the worst the world has to offer and they should all die.  That being said, being cowardly just isn't a factually-accurate descriptor.  It just isn't.  And Bill wasn't wrong about that.

And the number of qualifiers you had to put into those paragraphs are exactly why he stepped into a hornet's nest.

But, while we're on that topic, he's certainly correct that there's nothing particularly brave about push-button warfare.  I will absolutely agree that troops who are facing mortal peril deserve to be called brave, but bombing people with cruise missiles or attacking them with drones isn't in any meaningful sense of the word.

It may be effective, it may be tactically smart, and it may have any amount of practical value, but it just isn't brave. You may as well claim bravery for playing Halo.

Bill's real sin on that one was a failure to recognize just how hurt and, frankly, irrational everyone was feeling in the immediate aftermath of a traumatic event. On the other hand, wasn't the very name of the show Politically Incorrect?


I'd rather our citizens and soldiers be "cowardly" and alive than "brave" and dead. You don't win a battle based on the bravery of your dead fighters, nor can dead soldiers return home to their families and friends.
 
2013-01-10 03:27:34 AM
And it's still really sad and pityingly funny how much Trump and the right STILL keep going on about Obama's birth certificate. Nobody was this nut-punching retarded with the WHITE President who WAS born in a different country.

/and yes, I'll say it because it's true: racism is the greatest part of the right's mindset about their attitude and actions towards Obama. No white Democrat has ever gotten this amount of dipshiattery leveled at him
 
2013-01-10 03:48:12 AM
The Maher-Cowardly thing is the biggest post-911 idiocy litmus test and lots of people failed it.

Maher's statement was intentionally not delicate or egg shell-walking. It's a deliberate test to determine if a person's critical thinking skills are still in the driver's seat (if they ever were) in the face of emotional pressures. It's like the statement, "the Nazis were sure snazzy dressers." There are basically two types of people, those that can separate the fact that Nazis were rather fashionable and that they committed atrocities as two independent ideas, and those that can't. The latter group are not critical thinkers, they are simple thinkers. If a group is bad, everything about them is bad. If a group is good everything about them is good. If a geological science authority says something about geology then it must be true because of his authority. Lots of logical fallacies flourish in the company of simple thinkers.

The introspective accept or at least entertain the notion that some cultural or moral relativism was in play and however misguided the psychological mechanisms inherent in our enemies are the same as those present in us. There isn't some magical "evilonium" element coursing through their veins nor is our position spotlessly noble.

By reacting in a "pitchforks and torches" manner to the statement you are basically raising a huge flag over your head indicating you aren't thinking.
 
2013-01-10 04:10:32 AM
And the Hey I Want Attention winners are...
Bill Maher and Donnie Trump!
 
2013-01-10 06:37:52 AM

jake_lex: Trump has walked right into the trap that Maher set for him. Now Maher will throw back in Trump's face all the bullshiat reasons they've rejected President Obama's birth certificate and other proof of the fact he was born in the US.


And Trump will say "A-ha! So if you won't accept my birth certificate as proof, how come you're so eager to accept Obama's?"

To which Maher will reply "I'm simply holding you to the same standards you set."

Repeat ad nauseam
 
2013-01-10 09:08:34 AM
Ha ha! Maher gets clowned by the Don! Oh, gee, how come it's not funny anymore?

Pay up, biatch
 
2013-01-10 09:31:33 AM

untaken_name: Trivia Jockey: his comment about the terrorists was dead on if you stop and think about it for a second.

It is cowardly to kill yourself, because it takes courage to face the consequences of your actions, and ensuring that you will never have to is cowardly in the extreme.


If you're killing yourself to avoid dealing with your problems, yes.  If you're killing yourself in battle*, then no.

* what they perceive to be battle, anyway
 
2013-01-10 09:32:37 AM

Frederf: The Maher-Cowardly thing is the biggest post-911 idiocy litmus test and lots of people failed it.

Maher's statement was intentionally not delicate or egg shell-walking. It's a deliberate test to determine if a person's critical thinking skills are still in the driver's seat (if they ever were) in the face of emotional pressures. It's like the statement, "the Nazis were sure snazzy dressers." There are basically two types of people, those that can separate the fact that Nazis were rather fashionable and that they committed atrocities as two independent ideas, and those that can't. The latter group are not critical thinkers, they are simple thinkers. If a group is bad, everything about them is bad. If a group is good everything about them is good. If a geological science authority says something about geology then it must be true because of his authority. Lots of logical fallacies flourish in the company of simple thinkers.

The introspective accept or at least entertain the notion that some cultural or moral relativism was in play and however misguided the psychological mechanisms inherent in our enemies are the same as those present in us. There isn't some magical "evilonium" element coursing through their veins nor is our position spotlessly noble.

By reacting in a "pitchforks and torches" manner to the statement you are basically raising a huge flag over your head indicating you aren't thinking.


This was fantastic, well said and thanks.
 
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