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(Hot Air)   In the 2800 pages of Obamacare, the NRA had someone sneak in some very interesting gun provisions. In other news, Republicans have decided they like the bill and Democrats want it repealed   (hotair.com ) divider line
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2013-01-09 02:36:10 PM  
It's a conservative bill. They wanted the individual mandate until President Obama was openly for it.
 
2013-01-09 02:38:13 PM  
Jesus farking christ, there's not even a shadow to jump at any more and you assholes are up on the kitchen table...

And a video to boot!? Gee... I'll get right on that Hot Air. Right after I figure out how including a pro-gun clause in a bill is evidence of an anti-gun agenda.
 
2013-01-09 02:38:47 PM  
That was an amazingly uninformative "article."
 
2013-01-09 02:39:25 PM  
B-b-b-b-but the bill was too long to read! Nobody had time! It was rushed, and nobody even knew what was in it!!

Oh, wait, Republicans said that, so obviously they were full of shiat on that one, too.
 
2013-01-09 02:43:15 PM  
I hate omnibus bills...
 
2013-01-09 02:46:30 PM  
People have goddamn short attention spans.  A whole bunch of republican crap was shoehorned into the bill to try to get it past a filibuster.
 
2013-01-09 02:47:11 PM  
Honestly, every time I see that lie about what Pelosi said about passing the bill, it makes me want to punch someone's nads from inside their body cavity.

She did not say words to the effect of "No one gets to know what's in the bill until it has passed."

What she was communicating was far more similar to: "You assclowns have lied so much about what's in the bill, regular people will have no idea what's actually in it until the provisions actually take effect.
 
2013-01-09 02:49:11 PM  
i.imgur.com
I look forward to a most rational discussion in this thread.
 
2013-01-09 02:49:17 PM  
That wasn't a link to an article, it was a link to a blurb that said "watch this video to find out!" If I want that crap I'll watch ads for the local news at 11pm.
 
2013-01-09 02:54:57 PM  
''(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.-øAs
added by section 10101(e)(2)¿
''(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.-A wellness
and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information
relating to-
''(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
of an individual; or
''(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition by an individual.
''(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.-None of the authorities
provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection
of any information relating to-
''(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition;
''(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
''(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
''(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.-None of
the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by
that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to
maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a
firearm or ammunition.
''(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.-A premium rate may not
be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a
wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any
health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with
the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon-
''(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition; or
''(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
''(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
INDIVIDUALS.-No individual shall be required to disclose any
information under any data collection activity authorized
under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an
amendment made by that Act relating to-
''(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition; or
''(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition.
 
2013-01-09 02:55:51 PM  
I'm not where I can watch videos. but I guess its the same subject as this NPR piece.

the-gun-lobbys-favorite-part-of-the-health-law
 
2013-01-09 02:56:47 PM  

please: That wasn't a link to an article, it was a link to a blurb that said "watch this video to find out!" If I want that crap I'll watch ads for the local news at 11pm.


What did I post in my comment? Watch this video to find out!
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-09 02:57:36 PM  

Atillathepun: She did not say words to the effect of "No one gets to know what's in the bill until it has passed."


She did, in fact, say, "But we have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what's in it....". You can argue that they were taken out of context, but that was what she said. If she meant it in the way that she now says she did, then it was still an incredibly stupid way to express it.

BeesNuts: And a video to boot!? Gee... I'll get right on that Hot Air. Right after I figure out how including a pro-gun clause in a bill is evidence of an anti-gun agenda.


The video is a clip from CNN and I never saw that it suggested, in any way, that it was evidence of an anti-gun agenda. They suggest that Harry Reid inserted that provision into the bill in order to show the NRA that it had nothing to do with gun control so that they would stay out of the fight.
 
2013-01-09 02:59:22 PM  
I love how it's so secret that it's right out in the open in plain black and white text.

//I again had to correct my mother over the holidays that a year of debate and discussion was not "rushing the health care law through congress".
 
2013-01-09 02:59:50 PM  
What part of "DC is home to institutionalized bald faced liars" don't people get?

"We don't/won't track gun sales" ranks right up there with, "No I don't have herpes."m "Check is in the mail." and "We need NDAA but we'd never use NDAA."
 
2013-01-09 03:01:35 PM  

runin800m: Atillathepun: She did not say words to the effect of "No one gets to know what's in the bill until it has passed."

She did, in fact, say, "But we have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what's in it....". You can argue that they were taken out of context, but that was what she said. If she meant it in the way that she now says she did, then it was still an incredibly stupid way to express it.

BeesNuts: And a video to boot!? Gee... I'll get right on that Hot Air. Right after I figure out how including a pro-gun clause in a bill is evidence of an anti-gun agenda.

The video is a clip from CNN and I never saw that it suggested, in any way, that it was evidence of an anti-gun agenda. They suggest that Harry Reid inserted that provision into the bill in order to show the NRA that it had nothing to do with gun control so that they would stay out of the fight.


Michelle?
 
2013-01-09 03:03:09 PM  
If you all remember, about four years ago the right was in a huge tizzy because American Academy of Pediatrics had sent out recommendations to doctors to ask parents if there were guns in the house, as part of a comprehensive "safety counseling" risk assessment. Evil liberal doctors are always thinking about the health of the children, doing socialist things like warning parents about the risks of uncovered swimming pools, unsecured poison, not using car seats, and letting kid shoot at each other. Why do doctors hate freedom so much?

Anyhow, apparently somebody decided that the government was going to start a "safety counseling checklist" database, including information about guns in the house, in order to more accurately and effectively determine actual risks to children. You now, science, and all that stuff the Republicans hate.

So, the Democrats caved in and put a provision in the bill saying that the government will never sponsor any type of research that uses a safety counseling checklist to determine the actual statistical risk that a gun in the house poses to children.

And now Hot Air has somehow turned that sorry story into an article about how Harry Reid wants to take our guns. FREEDOM!
 
2013-01-09 03:08:07 PM  

The Larch: And now Hot Air has somehow turned that sorry story into an article about how Harry Reid wants to take our guns. FREEDOM!


Where do they suggest that the provision in the bill is evidence that Harry Reid wants to take anyone's guns?
 
2013-01-09 03:11:16 PM  

runin800m: The Larch: And now Hot Air has somehow turned that sorry story into an article about how Harry Reid wants to take our guns. FREEDOM!

Where do they suggest that the provision in the bill is evidence that Harry Reid wants to take anyone's guns?


The last paragraph, where this provision doesn't stop Congress from banning guns. I just proves that Reid is extra super ninja sneaky, and we have to watch him even more carefully in the future:

In any case, this isn't that much of a bar on Congressional action. What can be done in this manner can be undone in the same manner. I'd keep an eye on any thousand-page bill rushed to the floor in this session to see if Reid reverses course.
 
2013-01-09 03:15:53 PM  

The Larch: The last paragraph, where this provision doesn't stop Congress from banning guns. I just proves that Reid is extra super ninja sneaky, and we have to watch him even more carefully in the future:


I took it more as them expressing surprise that something like this would be inserted by Senator Reid rather than suggesting it was some sort of "super ninja sneaky" plan to disarm Americans, and saying that we should be sure he doesn't have a change of heart in the future. I think you're reading a bit too much into it, but that's just my humble opinion.
 
2013-01-09 03:26:13 PM  
What does head second amendment spokesman Alex Jones have to say about it?
 
2013-01-09 03:28:13 PM  

runin800m: The Larch: The last paragraph, where this provision doesn't stop Congress from banning guns. I just proves that Reid is extra super ninja sneaky, and we have to watch him even more carefully in the future:

I took it more as them expressing surprise that something like this would be inserted by Senator Reid rather than suggesting it was some sort of "super ninja sneaky" plan to disarm Americans, and saying that we should be sure he doesn't have a change of heart in the future. I think you're reading a bit too much into it, but that's just my humble opinion.


No, you're incorrect. They were insinuating he's sneaking around putting "Anti-gun" snippets into legislation. I apologize if English isn't your native language and you missed it because of that, but the phrasing is quite apparent.
 
2013-01-09 03:29:46 PM  

The Larch: If you all remember, about four years ago the right was in a huge tizzy because American Academy of Pediatrics had sent out recommendations to doctors to ask parents if there were guns in the house, as part of a comprehensive "safety counseling" risk assessment. Evil liberal doctors are always thinking about the health of the children, doing socialist things like warning parents about the risks of uncovered swimming pools, unsecured poison, not using car seats, and letting kid shoot at each other. Why do doctors hate freedom so much?



If it was actually about health and safety, they would have been asking about backyard swimming pools which are far more dangerous to children than guns.
 
2013-01-09 03:30:07 PM  

runin800m: The Larch: The last paragraph, where this provision doesn't stop Congress from banning guns. I just proves that Reid is extra super ninja sneaky, and we have to watch him even more carefully in the future:

I took it more as them expressing surprise that something like this would be inserted by Senator Reid rather than suggesting it was some sort of "super ninja sneaky" plan to disarm Americans, and saying that we should be sure he doesn't have a change of heart in the future. I think you're reading a bit too much into it, but that's just my humble opinion.


OK, I'll try to be more careful in my assessment of the article. In 150 words, Hot Air somehow managed to insert barbs about Obama being a gun grabber, make fun of the Affordable Health Care bill, denigrate CNN's perceived poor reporting, validate the beliefs of conspiracy theorists, and imply that Harry Reid is both sneaky and capricious.

Yeah, yeah, I know... BSABSVR and all that, but there's no way that anyone could read that Hot Air article and imagine that it is trying to achieve any type of balance.
 
2013-01-09 03:31:10 PM  

OgreMagi: The Larch: If you all remember, about four years ago the right was in a huge tizzy because American Academy of Pediatrics had sent out recommendations to doctors to ask parents if there were guns in the house, as part of a comprehensive "safety counseling" risk assessment. Evil liberal doctors are always thinking about the health of the children, doing socialist things like warning parents about the risks of uncovered swimming pools, unsecured poison, not using car seats, and letting kid shoot at each other. Why do doctors hate freedom so much?


If it was actually about health and safety, they would have been asking about backyard swimming pools which are far more dangerous to children than guns.


That's not true. Pools are known to carry far more often than normal people, and have superior aim.

HotWingConspiracy: What does head second amendment spokesman Alex Jones have to say about it?


Loud noises in the tune of reducto ad absurdum.
 
2013-01-09 03:31:10 PM  
I'm not sure how this is exactly relevant to the public health treatment of mental illness debate. If you're of the farking nuts variety where you are going to massacre people, I don't want you having car keys, I don't want you able to buy fertilizer in bulk, I don't want you to have any gun, I don't want you to have Estes model rocket engines, I don't want you to have access to any form of aircraft, and so on and so forth.

That pretty much suggests some kind of institutionalization or the like and I doubt they let you bring guns to the metal ward. You can own the guns, they'll just be on the other side of the wall than you are.
 
2013-01-09 03:31:21 PM  
Sounds like a rule assuage fears of the FOPA being undermined.
In this age of data mining, its going to have some decent value.

/Good on Reid for getting in in there.
/Bad on Reid for having easily shaken faith in the bill of rights.
 
2013-01-09 03:31:35 PM  

OgreMagi: The Larch: If you all remember, about four years ago the right was in a huge tizzy because American Academy of Pediatrics had sent out recommendations to doctors to ask parents if there were guns in the house, as part of a comprehensive "safety counseling" risk assessment. Evil liberal doctors are always thinking about the health of the children, doing socialist things like warning parents about the risks of uncovered swimming pools, unsecured poison, not using car seats, and letting kid shoot at each other. Why do doctors hate freedom so much?


If it was actually about health and safety, they would have been asking about backyard swimming pools which are far more dangerous to children than guns.


What else ya got?
 
2013-01-09 03:31:59 PM  

OgreMagi: If it was actually about health and safety, they would have been asking about backyard swimming pools which are far more dangerous to children than guns.


Actually they'd have a checklist to go down, with both pools and weapons listed. Along with the shiat under the sink, etc. You check all risk factors.
 
2013-01-09 03:32:43 PM  

OgreMagi: The Larch: If you all remember, about four years ago the right was in a huge tizzy because American Academy of Pediatrics had sent out recommendations to doctors to ask parents if there were guns in the house, as part of a comprehensive "safety counseling" risk assessment. Evil liberal doctors are always thinking about the health of the children, doing socialist things like warning parents about the risks of uncovered swimming pools, unsecured poison, not using car seats, and letting kid shoot at each other. Why do doctors hate freedom so much?

If it was actually about health and safety, they would have been asking about backyard swimming pools which are far more dangerous to children than guns.


If it was actually about an informed and thoughtful discussion, and not just right wing rage and whaarglbargle, you would know that they ask about swimming pools too.
 
2013-01-09 03:49:57 PM  

MindStalker: ''(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.-øAs
added by section 10101(e)(2)¿


Thank you sir.

That seems neither particularly pro or anti-gun. Honstly, I like it and it seems fairly common-sense. If it was a necessary olive branch to keep yet another lobby out of the fight, then good job everyone!

It's simply establishing that Health Insurance companies can't charge you extra for exercising your constitutional right to own a gun. (and just to be sure, eliminating any back-door gun registry database under cover of the ACA).

Since there is no real reason why the ACA shoudl be monitoring gun ownership in the first place, I'm having a hard time seeing why either side would be concerned that there is langauge prohibiting something no one was planning on doing.
 
2013-01-09 03:51:46 PM  

The Larch: there's no way that anyone could read that Hot Air article and imagine that it is trying to achieve any type of balance.


First time clicking on a Hot Air link, is it?
 
2013-01-09 03:53:17 PM  

cryinoutloud: That was an amazingly uninformative "article."


But it was "infromative."
 
2013-01-09 03:54:13 PM  

The Larch: If it was actually about an informed and thoughtful discussion, and not just right wing rage and whaarglbargle, you would know that they ask about swimming pools too.


OgreMagi: If it was actually about health and safety, they would have been asking about backyard swimming pools which are far more dangerous to children than guns.


Alts, or subscribers to the same talking point newsletter?
 
2013-01-09 03:54:23 PM  

Epoch_Zero: No, you're incorrect. They were insinuating he's sneaking around putting "Anti-gun" snippets into legislation. I apologize if English isn't your native language and you missed it because of that, but the phrasing is quite apparent.


They do not insinuate that Harry Reid was sneaking around putting "anti-gun" snippets into legislation. You seem to be the one who fails at reading comprehension. They suggest that democrats probably didn't realize he had inserted the provision into the bill and mocks Nancy Pelosi by bring up her we have to pass it to find out what's in it, insinuating that she and others wouldn't like finding out about this provision. They then suggest that President Obama would like to "start grabbing guns" despite Reid inserting this pro gun measure into the bill, before finally finishing up by saying that this isn't a huge barrier and it could be undone later so watch Reid to be sure he doesn't have a change of heart.

It never suggests that Harry Reid was sneaking around putting "anti-gun" snippets into legislation by, very cleverly, sneaking in pro-gun snippets. The only thing even remotely close to what you think you read was that they insinuate that he could, in the future, sneak in snippets that walk back the snippets he previously sneaked in.
 
2013-01-09 03:55:29 PM  

The Larch: there's no way that anyone could read that Hot Air article and imagine that it is trying to achieve any type of balance.


No, it was definitely not trying to achieve any type of balance. We have absolutely no disagreement there.
 
2013-01-09 03:57:12 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: What does head second amendment spokesman Alex Jones have to say about it?


1) WHARRGARBL
2) Honk Honk Blargh Honk
3) Derp
4) All of the above
 
2013-01-09 04:06:33 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: The Larch: If it was actually about an informed and thoughtful discussion, and not just right wing rage and whaarglbargle, you would know that they ask about swimming pools too.

OgreMagi: If it was actually about health and safety, they would have been asking about backyard swimming pools which are far more dangerous to children than guns.

Alts, or subscribers to the same talking point newsletter?


LOL. It's amazing what you can do when you take quotes out of context. The way you write it, it looks like it's those were two unrelated posts, with no absolutely no explanation for the almost identical wording.

On a meta-ironic-hipster level, I rate your post better than rain on my wedding day, but not as good as all those damned spoons in my knife drawer.
 
2013-01-09 04:08:50 PM  

runin800m: Atillathepun: She did not say words to the effect of "No one gets to know what's in the bill until it has passed."

She did, in fact, say, "But we have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what's in it....". You can argue that they were taken out of context, but that was what she said. If she meant it in the way that she now says she did, then it was still an incredibly stupid way to express it.

BeesNuts: And a video to boot!? Gee... I'll get right on that Hot Air. Right after I figure out how including a pro-gun clause in a bill is evidence of an anti-gun agenda.

The video is a clip from CNN and I never saw that it suggested, in any way, that it was evidence of an anti-gun agenda. They suggest that Harry Reid inserted that provision into the bill in order to show the NRA that it had nothing to do with gun control so that they would stay out of the fight.


You can make almost any statement look foolish by intentionally and repeatedly leaving out the important bits. You left out the important bits.
 
2013-01-09 04:14:57 PM  
Hey doc my knee is swollen.

Do you have any guns in the home?

How about you concentrate on being a doctor instead of a statistician or a farking pollster?


/Problem?
 
2013-01-09 04:17:41 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: What does head second amendment spokesman Alex Jones have to say about it?


You didn;t think the media would ask anyone with a brain to defend the RKBA in an interview did you?

Might as well ask Marcus Bachmann to be the spokesman for homos.
 
2013-01-09 04:33:34 PM  
Well, if Viagra is covered under the Healthcare Act, then gun ownership should be also.
 
2013-01-09 04:41:46 PM  
Nutters Running Amok.
 
2013-01-09 04:44:23 PM  

runin800m: It never suggests that Harry Reid was sneaking around putting "anti-gun" snippets into legislation by, very cleverly, sneaking in pro-gun snippets. The only thing even remotely close to what you think you read was that they insinuate that he could, in the future, sneak in snippets that walk back the snippets he previously sneaked in.

Of course, in this case all she needed to do was ask her buddy Harry Reid, who apparently sandbagged his party's gun-control wing by inserting an interesting clause in the 2800-page bill that no one in Congress bothered to read before voting on it.


Troll harder.
 
2013-01-09 04:45:41 PM  

ha-ha-guy: I'm not sure how this is exactly relevant to the public health treatment of mental illness debate. If you're of the farking nuts variety where you are going to massacre people, I don't want you having car keys, I don't want you able to buy fertilizer in bulk, I don't want you to have any gun, I don't want you to have Estes model rocket engines, I don't want you to have access to any form of aircraft, and so on and so forth.

That pretty much suggests some kind of institutionalization or the like and I doubt they let you bring guns to the metal ward. You can own the guns, they'll just be on the other side of the wall than you are.


Metal health will drive you mad.
 
2013-01-09 04:51:04 PM  
Only 2800 pages? Get some Wheel of Time fans on it. Thing will be index and cross referenced in a week.
 
2013-01-09 05:27:01 PM  

The Larch: On a meta-ironic-hipster level, I rate your post better than rain on my wedding day, but not as good as all those damned spoons in my knife drawer.


You are welcome :)
 
2013-01-09 06:41:55 PM  

MindStalker: ''(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.-øAs
added by section 10101(e)(2)¿
''(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.-A wellness
and health promotion activity implemented under subsection
(a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information
relating to-
''(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed
firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property
of an individual; or
''(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm
or ammunition by an individual.
''(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.-None of the authorities
provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection
and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection
of any information relating to-
''(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition;
''(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
''(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition.
''(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.-None of
the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by
that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to
maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a
firearm or ammunition.
''(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR
ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.-A premium rate may not
be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied,
and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a
wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any
health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with
the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment
made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon-
''(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or
ammunition; or
''(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
''(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR
INDIVIDUALS.-No individual shall be required to disclose any
information under an ...


"This provision may also be referenced as the Saving Doctors Time Amendment."
 
2013-01-09 06:44:44 PM  

OgreMagi: The Larch: If you all remember, about four years ago the right was in a huge tizzy because American Academy of Pediatrics had sent out recommendations to doctors to ask parents if there were guns in the house, as part of a comprehensive "safety counseling" risk assessment. Evil liberal doctors are always thinking about the health of the children, doing socialist things like warning parents about the risks of uncovered swimming pools, unsecured poison, not using car seats, and letting kid shoot at each other. Why do doctors hate freedom so much?


If it was actually about health and safety, they would have been asking about backyard swimming pools which are far more dangerous to children than guns.


And trampolines, which cause injuries and unwanted pregnancies.
 
2013-01-09 08:20:18 PM  
Atillathepun:
runin800m: Atillathepun: She did not say words to the effect of "No one gets to know what's in the bill until it has passed."

She did, in fact, say, "But we have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what's in it....". You can argue that they were taken out of context, but that was what she said. If she meant it in the way that she now says she did, then it was still an incredibly stupid way to express it.
You can make almost any statement look foolish by intentionally and repeatedly leaving out the important bits. You left out the important bits.

Allow me to quote the Holy Bible the same way that the Teabaggers, their pet pundits, and runin800m quoted Pelosi (though I'll be somewhat more honest than them and properly indicate mine omissions with ellipses ["..."]):
• Exodus 8:10: "...there is no God...." (CEV & The Message)
• Exodus 9:14: "...there is no God...." (EtR)
• Deuteronomy 3:24: "...there is no God...." (EtR & GNT)
• Deuteronomy 32:39: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except BB, CEV, D-R, GNT, JST, LITV, MCB, Msg, NIRV, NJB, NLT, & WE)
• Deuteronomy 33:26: "...there is no God...." (MCB)
• I Samuel 2:2: "...there is no God...." (GB & NCV)
• II Samuel 7:22: "...there is no God...." (CJB, ERB, ESV, EtR, HCSB, LITV, MCB, NAB, NASB, NCV, NIV, NLB, NLV, NRSV, RSV, UBv1.9, & YLT)
• II Samuel 22:32: "...there is no God...." (EtR & PLT)
• I Kings 8:23: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except CEV [Msg has this at verse 22], CJB, JST, LITV, & YLT)
• II Kings 1:3: "...there is no God...." (Amp, ASV, ERB, ERV, GB, GNT, HCSB, JPS, JST, NAB, NASB, NCV, NKJV, NIV, NLV, NRSV, PLT, RSV, & UBv1.9)
• II Kings 1:6: "...there is no God...." (ASV, ERB, ERV, GB, GNT, HNV, HCSB, JPS, JST, NAB, NASB, NCV, NKJV, NIV, NLV, NRSV, PLT, RSV, & UBv1.9)
• II Kings 1:16: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except BB, CEV, CJB, EtR, GB, GNT, LITV, MCB, Msg, NJB, NLT, NRSV, & YLT)
• II Kings 5:15: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except CEV, LITV, Holman, & YLT)
• I Chronicles 17:20: "...there is no God...." (CJB, ESV, HCSB, NAB, NCV, NIV, NLV, NRS, PLT, RSV, UBv1.9, & YLT)
• II Chronicles 6:14: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except CEV [Msg has this at verse 12], JST, LITV, & PLT)
• Job 12:6: "...there is no God...." (PLT)
• Psalm 10:4: "...there is no God...." (Amp, ASV, BBE, CJB, Darby, ERV, ESV, GB, LITV, NASB, NJB, NLV, NRS, PLT, RSV, & UBv1.9)
• Psalm 14:1: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except BBE, Msg, JPS, JST, LITV, & YLT)
• Psalm 18:31: "...there is no God...." (EtR & PLT)
• Psalm 53:1: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except BBE, CJB, JST, LITV, & Msg [JPS has this at verse 2])
• Psalm 71:19: "...there is no God...." (EtR)
• Psalm 86:8: "...there is no God...." (BBE, GNT, & NCV)
• Proverbs 30:1: "...there is no God...." (Msg)
• Isaiah 44:6: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except CEV, EtR, JST, LITV, MCB, Msg, NKJV, & NCV)
• Isaiah 44:8: "...there is no God...." (KJ1611, KJ21, KJV*, PLT, & TMB)
• Isaiah 45:5: "...there is no God...." (all major translations except CEV, CJB, EtR, JST, Msg, NASB, NCV, & NJB)
• Isaiah 45:6: "...there is no God...." (Amp, BBE, & GWT)
• Isaiah 45:14: "...there is no God..." (ASV, ERV, KJ1611, KJ21, KJV*, & NASB)
• Isaiah 45:21: "...there is no God...." (Amp, ASV, Darby, ERV, JPS, KJ1611, KJ21, KJV*, NKJV, NIRV, NIV, & TMB)
• Isaiah 46:9: "...there is no God...." (D-R)
• Daniel 3:29: "...there is no God...." (BB, GB, & MCB)
• Micah 7:18: "...there is no God...." (EtR, NCV, & PLT)
• Judith 6:2: "...there is no God...." (D-R)
• Sirach [Ben Sira] 36:2: "...there is no God...." (D-R)
• Sirach [Ben Sira] 36:5: "...there is no God...." (D-R, GNT, KJ1611, KJV, & NRSV [NAB has this at verse 4])
• Sirach [Ben Sira] 36:13: "...there is no God...." (D-R)
• II Esdras 8:58: "...there is no God...." (KJV, NRSV, & TMB)
• I Corinthians 8:4: "...there is no God...." (Amp, ASV, BBE, ERV, ESV, HCSB, LEB N.T., Msg, NAB, NIV, NJB, NRVS, RSV, UBv1.9, Webster, Wesley N.T., Weymouth N.T. & Wycliffe N.T. [for obvious reason, this is the only appearance of that phrase in the LEB, Wesley, Weymouth, & Wycliffe])
(* The KJV references (other than the two in the Apocrypha) are also found in the AKJV [American King James Version])
( The NIV references are also found in its variants including the NIV-UK and TNIV [Today's NIV].)


Given who their candidate was this past election cycle, I should add a few more examples from other scriptures (especially since said candidate once defended blatantly quoting Obama out-of-context by saying, "Well, he did actually say those words!"):

"O fools! for you have said in your hearts, There is no God...."Luke 16:21 (Joseph Smith Translation neé Inspired Version)

"... And if these things are not there is no God. And if there is no God we are not, neither the earth;..."II Nephi 2:13 (BoM)

"... And they deny the power of God, the Holy One of Israel; and they say unto the people: Hearken unto us, and hear ye our precept; for behold there is no God today, for the Lord and the Redeemer hath done his work, and he hath given his power unto men;"II Nephi 28:5 (BoM)

"Believest thou that there is no God ? I say unto you, Nay, thou knowest that there is a God, but thou lovest that lucre more than him."Alma 11:24 (BoM)

"And now what evidence have ye that there is no God, or that Christ cometh not? I say unto you that ye have none, save it be your word only."Alma 30:40 (BoM)

"And yet do ye go about, leading away the hearts of this people, testifying unto them there is no God? And yet will ye deny against all these witnesses? And he said: Yea, I will deny, except ye shall show me a sign."Alma 30:45 (BoM)

"... And he said unto me: There is no God; yea, and he taught me that which I should say...."Alma 30:53 (BoM)

"Behold, will ye believe in the day of your visitation―behold, when the Lord shall come, yea, even that great day when the earth shall be rolled together as a scroll, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, yea, in that great day when ye shall be brought to stand before the Lamb of God―then will ye say that there is no God?"Mormon 9:2 (BoM)

"And I have a work for thee, Moses, my son; and thou art in the similitude of mine Only Begotten; and mine Only Begotten is and shall be the Savior, for he is full of grace and truth; but there is no God beside me, and all things are present with me, for I know them all."Moses 1:6 (PoGP)
 
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