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13654 clicks; posted to Main » on 09 Jan 2013 at 4:07 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-01-09 12:51:58 PM  
4 votes:

Nofun: Now step through the damn scanner.


No. I had cancer once, I'd rather not have it again "..but they haven't tested.." exactly. They haven't tested it.

However, I fly a lot, and I always opt out. I think this guy is full of shiat. ONE TIME, I had to wait more than a few minutes, and I made some noise about not being able to see my belongings and someone came over immediately.

I have never been "herded into a little room", I have never had a TSA agent verbally harass me. I once had someone threaten to make me wait a long time, and I replied that if I was retaliated against for opting out I would most certainly be speaking to her supervisor. I said this loudly enough that a whole crowd of people heard me.

Understand that the TSA works for you, understand that you have done nothing wrong. You need treat these people with politeness and if necessary firmness, like you would a recalcitrant child, and you will have no problems.
2013-01-09 04:40:49 PM  
2 votes:
Thank you George Bush Jr. for keeping me safe.

/this is his legacy
2013-01-09 04:33:21 PM  
2 votes:

Nofun: This moron's articles for the last few months (if not longer, didn't bother to check), have nearly all been TSA related.

Author is a moron and a scumbag. I don't see him writing about the soldiers still fighting this war, or about the 9/11 rescue workers still waiting for medical care. These things are all fine, but the TSA: they're outrageous!

We get it, you have a small dick. Now step through the damn scanner.


You sound like an angry, lonely, mouth-breathing TSA agent. I'm opting out from now on. Kiss my ass.
2013-01-09 04:27:37 PM  
2 votes:

jack21221: Until recently, I would have agreed with TFA, but the scanners are SO fast and easy most people don't want to opt out. In my last trip through Logan, the agents by the old metal detector looked bored as everybody went to the line with the scanner. They were practically begging for opt outs so they'd have something to do.

I've flown 3 times in the past few weeks (4th time tonight) and every time has been a fast, pleasant experience.


You know what's faster than the rape scanners? The old metal detectors which worked perfectly fine and didn't claim to do something they can't.
2013-01-09 10:19:01 PM  
1 vote:
I don't fly much, but my experiences in Rochester, Chicago, Honolulu and Venice have been less horrible than I feared.

The experience at JFK was another matter. Besides nearly breaking our new Murano wine glasses, my wife was "patted down" so thoroughly she still feels violated to this day. They didn't offer her a private area, and the agent was not a pleasant person. I went through the backscatter machine and still swear I felt tingling.

The experience at JFK has convinced my wife that, like me, if we can physically drive there, we will, even if it takes LOTS longer.

And that's without the whole libertarian argument I wanna make. TSA is yet another example of the incremental deletion of our individual rights. We're so far down that rabbit hole, I don't know how the ACLU goes without bursting into flame. Except for the First Amendment (mostly) the other 9 Amendments in the "Bill of Rights" are about as meaningful as the tissue I blew my nose with earlier tonight.

But... we'll keep electing Republicans and Democrats to office and keep getting what we f**king deserve.
2013-01-09 06:24:16 PM  
1 vote:

Phins: I have a knee replacement so before the scanners, I always got the pat down because the implant set off the metal detector. I did usually have to wait in a little plexiglass box but it didn't really bother me. If the wait was more than a couple minutes (for a female agent), I got multiple apologies. I do live in Austin where people are generally nice and fly in and out of Florida a lot, where there are lots of passengers with hip/knee replacements. I think this guy might be overreacting.

Or maybe he's flying out of Dulles, where they really seem to think most people have a good chance of being actual terrorists.


Hell, I flew out of Portland Maine, which is a tiny airport with very paranoid security(Most of the 9/11 terrorists came through there), and I never had an issue. I never had a rude comment, nothing. The most I had was they couldn't figure out my collapsible laptop stand, I showed the lady what it was and how it worked, and she very nicely asked if she could take it over to show the other TSA people, so that if they saw one again, they would know what it was. I had no problem waiting an extra 2 or 3 minutes, and like I said, everyone was nice.

I also got thanked when flying out of Salt Lake, as I was shipping a server, and had all of the hard drives in my carryon. I put them 3 or 4 to a bin, didn't stack any, and was till through security in 15 minutes. Afterwards, 2 or 3 of the agents thanked me for setting them up that way, because usually people pile the shiat on top of each other, and they have to stop the line...

Maybe the author of TFA is just a prick?
2013-01-09 06:08:58 PM  
1 vote:

what_now: Nofun: Now step through the damn scanner.

No. I had cancer once, I'd rather not have it again "..but they haven't tested.." exactly. They haven't tested it.


There are two kinds of scanners: x-ray and microwave.

Yes, the x-rays are dangerous and if I were a TSA agent working around it I'd ask yourself why you don't have to wear a dosimeter like medical x-ray techs do.

The more common microwave scanners don't emit ionizing radiation which causes cancer, but they still do show your naked body to the TSA monitoring room.

Know your radiation:

upload.wikimedia.org

This is why people who worry about cell phone radiation are idiots. You get more damaging radiation from the sun. There is no ionizing radiation from radios -- wrong side of spectrum. The worst thing you will get is warmth.
2013-01-09 05:41:46 PM  
1 vote:

illegal.tender: a) fark the TSA.
b) If the NRA had any credibility about their "fear the gummint" line they would be going after the TSA with both barrels, so to speak, and they would have started yesterday.


The NRA is the National Rifle Association, it's oriented towards firearms, not towards air travel. Asking the NRA to get involved with TSA screening is like asking the MPAA to do something about gun sales: it's just not what they do.

If anything, blame the ACLU for being asleep at the switch on Second Amendment rights, while being so vigilant about all the rest of them.
2013-01-09 04:54:32 PM  
1 vote:
Off topic, but the whole water bottle thing just destroys the illusion for me. This shiat is sooo dangerous I can't bring it through security but they can keep an entire trashcan full of discarded bottles next to the crowd of people waiting in line and pallets of them on the other side of security. Theater.
2013-01-09 04:40:49 PM  
1 vote:
I've not flown since the "rapiscan" machines were announced. I spent an afternoon on the internet reading the technical documents provided by the company, the government guidelines, material by the FDA's department of radiological health (I might have that name wrong, but they deal with lasers and scanners), and other materials.

Normally, people operating machines that have any of these capabilities are trained in the use of those devices. They wear dosimeters. The machines are operated in such a way that the only person exposed to the radiation/lasers/etc are the patients. The machines are recalibrated and monitored regularly.

The TSA does not allow their employees to wear dosimeters. No TSA employees are trained in radiology (except for the rare few who were unemployed and took the job out of desparation). The devices are inspected ONCE A YEAR. These machines are used thousands and thousands of times and are looked at once every 365 days, give or take.

I don't want to be in the same *building* with these things, let alone close up and personal.
2013-01-09 04:35:51 PM  
1 vote:
stuffer:
You should care more about them malfunctioning and frying you than someone you don't know seeing some vague outline of your body and maybe making a comment to another person you will never meet. They don't eve see your face well and wouldn't recognize you if they ran into you at the food court. It's a body, who cares. Everyone has seen them naked. It's not like they're watching you poop and posting it in Facebook so all your friends stumble on it then make fun of the faces you make while pooping or something.

I'm not worried about running into a TSA agent and them being able to know that it was my vague naked outline that they saw. I read a few articles on how to decide whether you should take the scanner or opt out. They all gave pros and cons, but mentioned that each person should decide that they are more comfortable with. While the scanners frying me is a valid concern, it's not the only concern. I weighed the options and concluded that I am more comfortable with the opt out. I don't mind professional people, like my doctor, seeing me naked. I don't feel like most TSA employees are very professional. I also feel more comfortable with a woman conducting a search than a man. If I get the opt out, I get a woman. If I go through a scanner, it might be a man or a woman and I don't have control over that. I've heard numerous people, including a friend of mine, comment that at their airport it was clear that attractive and young females were being picked more often to go through the scanners. There was the one story in the news from the woman who was made to go through multiple times because "the picture wasn't clear" until a woman TSA agent came over and told the male TSA agents that the picture was clear and that they needed to knock it off. It's just a body, but it's my body and I don't need to be fodder for immature males who are getting a kick out of it. I need to choose what I am comfortable with, and that's the pat down.
2013-01-09 04:21:32 PM  
1 vote:
I opt out as I don't trust the proper technicians are on hand to guarantee the machine isn't malfunctioning giving improper doses of radiation, and think this article is a joke. They ask if you want a private room, and if you feel embarrassed standing off to the side for a minute or 2 you have mental issues to deal with. I think of it as the cancer free club. Also, there are 2 types of those machines, Millimeter and sub millimeter (or something like that) and one is more risky than the other. I forget which.
2013-01-09 04:19:38 PM  
1 vote:
a) fark the TSA.
b) If the NRA had any credibility about their "fear the gummint" line they would be going after the TSA with both barrels, so to speak, and they would have started yesterday.
2013-01-09 04:14:10 PM  
1 vote:
I've opted out twice. That's also the number of times I've flow since the scanners have been in use. Both times, the women giving me the pat down were professional and nice. The second time, though, the guy managing the line gave me a lot of crap for opting out. He said, "They don't use X-rays, so you don't need to opt out." while using a tone like I was a moron. I said that I didn't care and still wanted the pat down and he griped at me, saying, "You can opt out if you want, but you don't need to because the machines don't use x-rays." Look, I'm getting the pat down because I'm more comfortable with a woman touching me a little bit than I am with creepy TSA dudes looking at my generic naked outline while they're being dicks. For me, it's not about how much cancer I am or am not getting.
2013-01-09 04:13:10 PM  
1 vote:

Nofun: This moron's articles for the last few months (if not longer, didn't bother to check), have nearly all been TSA related.

Author is a moron and a scumbag. I don't see him writing about the soldiers still fighting this war, or about the 9/11 rescue workers still waiting for medical care. These things are all fine, but the TSA: they're outrageous!

We get it, you have a small dick. Now step through the damn scanner.


Gun thread is further down the page
2013-01-09 02:37:01 PM  
1 vote:

what_now: scottydoesntknow: Or just go through it sporting a massive erection.

I can't.


hackmytrip.com
2013-01-09 11:52:50 AM  
1 vote:
This moron's articles for the last few months (if not longer, didn't bother to check), have nearly all been TSA related.

Author is a moron and a scumbag. I don't see him writing about the soldiers still fighting this war, or about the 9/11 rescue workers still waiting for medical care. These things are all fine, but the TSA: they're outrageous!

We get it, you have a small dick. Now step through the damn scanner.
 
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