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2013-01-09 10:10:13 AM
The Everett, WA area is probably seeing a huge uptick in Alka-Seltzer and/or whiskey sales right now.
 
2013-01-09 10:12:58 AM
Can any Farkers see Logan from their window?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-09 10:17:07 AM
The first two breakdowns were in Boston. The latest brakedown was in Japan.
 
2013-01-09 10:22:18 AM

ZAZ: The first two breakdowns were in Boston. The latest brakedown was in Japan.


Ah, my bad.  I could have sworn it said Boston.  Maybe they updated the article

/or, maybe I can't read or write
//the letter 2, my friend
 
2013-01-09 11:02:40 AM
Congratulations! You've unlocked the POS badge!!
 
2013-01-09 11:03:04 AM

BunkoSquad: Can any Farkers see Logan from their window?


Came here solely for that. Carry on.
 
2013-01-09 11:05:24 AM
Not only did this take place in Japan, it was also a different airline. But still, you won't see me flying on a 787 anytime soon.
 
2013-01-09 11:08:59 AM
From TFA: "Carter Leake, an analyst at BB&T Capital Markets in Virginia, downgraded Boeing shares, noting that fires are potentially lethal"

Wow, and all this time, I thought all those folks I set on fire would be just fine...
 
2013-01-09 11:13:07 AM
More like the "You Just Got farked at The Airport! Again!!" badge.
 
2013-01-09 11:16:22 AM
The way the wings bend when that plane takes off is really scary.
 
2013-01-09 11:16:47 AM
OMG WTF

They had an airplane flight they needed to delay because they had to replace a brake part.

yesterday they apparently put too much fuel in the plane and boston and it went out the overflow vent.

The day before that a battery overheated and someone hit it with an ax.

Tomorrow they may have to replace a part on a different aircraft of the 50 planes flying a round the world.
 
2013-01-09 11:25:58 AM

Farce-Side: From TFA: "Carter Leake, an analyst at BB&T Capital Markets in Virginia, downgraded Boeing shares, noting that fires are potentially lethal"

Wow, and all this time, I thought all those folks I set on fire would be just fine...


In the words of a wise man: "Fire... bad!"
 
2013-01-09 11:26:56 AM
I tend to like Boeing a heck of a lot more than Airbus; so far one one of these hasn't had instrument / autopilot issues and not a single one's dropped out of the sky.

That said and done, it's pretty telling that Corporate shills are everywhere, and these incidents reek of product pushed out the door before being fully baked.

/But I bet they saved millions vs. the cost of fixing these one-off issues
 
2013-01-09 11:30:34 AM
Japan's All Nippon Airways

Sounds kinky
 
2013-01-09 11:33:35 AM
Boeing has a new slogan now:


If it's Boeing, it will end up blowing.
 
2013-01-09 11:33:40 AM
Thanks, pax, for beta-testing the Dreamliner for me. I think I'll give it another few years before intentionally flying on one.

/boeing
/boing!
 
2013-01-09 11:38:55 AM
"It's a new plane, and some minor glitches do happen. It's not a cause of concern, as long as I'm not on it" said spokesman G.Prasada Rao
 
2013-01-09 11:39:37 AM

uncleacid: The way the wings bend when that plane takes off is really scary.


It's designed to do that.  Can't find the link right now, but there are some YouTube videos out there of planes undergoing "static wing tests".  Trust me, the wings can bend way further than you think they can.
 
2013-01-09 11:40:30 AM
I'm tellin' all y'all it's a sabotage!
 
2013-01-09 11:45:34 AM

maggoo: Boeing has a new slogan now:


If it's Boeing, it will end up blowing.


Or Boeing's union employees new slogan; Go ahead, fly one of those non-union planes, I am sure they are subject to the same QC's
 
2013-01-09 11:57:32 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: uncleacid: The way the wings bend when that plane takes off is really scary.

It's designed to do that.  Can't find the link right now, but there are some YouTube videos out there of planes undergoing "static wing tests".  Trust me, the wings can bend way further than you think they can.


boeingblogs.com
True dat.
 
2013-01-09 11:58:48 AM

Znuh: I tend to like Boeing a heck of a lot more than Airbus; so far one one of these hasn't had instrument / autopilot issues and not a single one's dropped out of the sky.

That said and done, it's pretty telling that Corporate shills are everywhere, and these incidents reek of product pushed out the door before being fully baked.

/But I bet they saved millions vs. the cost of fixing these one-off issues


As a test engineer of a Fortune 50 aerospace company, I can assure you they only THOUGHT they'd be saving money. Or bullshiatted the people holding the purse strings of the compan(ies) that they would be able to develop a product in record time with an appreciable cost savings. Or more likely, were DICTATED BY the people holding the purse strings of the compan(ies) that THEY WILL develop a highly complex piece of machinery with new untested technology (in terms of years of service life) in record time with an appreciable cost savings. Quality costs time and money, two things companies aren't fond of spending and try very hard to avoid.

That being said, it is still safer to fly today than at any other time in history. When 787s (or any other new aircraft) start dropping out of the skies, then it's time to push the panic button.
 
2013-01-09 12:06:17 PM

Farce-Side: From TFA: "Carter Leake, an analyst at BB&T Capital Markets in Virginia, downgraded Boeing shares, noting that fires are potentially lethal"

Wow, and all this time, I thought all those folks I set on fire would be just fine...


Nah... they're probably fine. Don't worry too much about it.
 
2013-01-09 12:16:31 PM
If any of you had any idea how often planes break and how many things are broken when you fly, I think you would be way more nervous than you are now. Lol. However, I have never felt anything other than completely safe and comfortable when I fly.
 
2013-01-09 12:35:26 PM

blatz514: Japan's All Nippon Airways

Sounds kinky


Are you 10 years old or something? You shouldn't be posting on the Fark, I'm pretty sure it's against the rules.
 
2013-01-09 12:43:44 PM
i26.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-09 12:48:53 PM

TheSelphie: blatz514: Japan's All Nippon Airways

Sounds kinky

Are you 10 years old or something? You shouldn't be posting on the Fark, I'm pretty sure it's against the rules.


I might be drunk yet.
 
2013-01-09 12:50:20 PM

Theaetetus: Grand_Moff_Joseph: uncleacid: The way the wings bend when that plane takes off is really scary.

It's designed to do that.  Can't find the link right now, but there are some YouTube videos out there of planes undergoing "static wing tests".  Trust me, the wings can bend way further than you think they can.

[boeingblogs.com image 480x291]
True dat.


Search up one of the YouTube vids of them testing a wing to destruction. Pretty astonishing A) how far it bends... and B) how completely it fails when it finally lets go.
 
2013-01-09 12:56:23 PM
3 in 3 days? Were these put into service 4 days ago?
 
2013-01-09 01:13:42 PM

Farce-Side: From TFA: "Carter Leake, an analyst at BB&T Capital Markets in Virginia, downgraded Boeing shares, noting that fires are potentially lethal"

Wow, and all this time, I thought all those folks I set on fire would be just fine...


They are if they drink Gatorade.
 
2013-01-09 01:14:34 PM

EddyKilowatt: Search up one of the YouTube vids of them testing a wing to destruction. Pretty astonishing A) how far it bends... and B) how completely it fails when it finally lets go.


Once the wings fall off, it really doesn't matter how spectacular the failure is.

"Well, at least those aluminum wings were still in one piece when they broke off the plane and fluttered to the ground like beautiful flower petals" said nobody ever.
 
2013-01-09 01:14:45 PM

starrion: OMG WTF

Tomorrow they may have to replace a part on a different aircraft of the 50 planes flying a round the world.


yeah, you should probably short sell Boing.
 
2013-01-09 01:25:11 PM

DubtodaIll: I'm tellin' all y'all it's a sabotage!


I can't stand it...
 
2013-01-09 01:29:02 PM

Callous: DubtodaIll: I'm tellin' all y'all it's a sabotage!

I can't stand it...


I know you planned it
 
2013-01-09 01:36:14 PM

TeDDD: Farce-Side: From TFA: "Carter Leake, an analyst at BB&T Capital Markets in Virginia, downgraded Boeing shares, noting that fires are potentially lethal"

Wow, and all this time, I thought all those folks I set on fire would be just fine...

In the words of a wise man: "Fire... bad!"


Tree....pretty


/obscure?
 
2013-01-09 01:40:23 PM
"400 years ago, on Earth, workers who felt their livelihood threatened by automation, flung their wooden shoes called 'sabots' into the machines to stop them. Hence the word 'sabotage'."
 
2013-01-09 01:43:41 PM

CokeBear: "400 years ago, on Earth, workers who felt their livelihood threatened by automation, flung their wooden shoes called 'sabots' into the machines to stop them. Hence the word 'sabotage'."


"Once you remove the impossible, whatever remains - however unlikely - must be the truth".

/well played quote
//awesome movie
 
2013-01-09 01:46:59 PM
"Asian customers rallied behind the U.S. planemaker, however, saying such teething troubles were not uncommon on new planes and confirming they had no plans to scale back or cancel orders for the aircraft, which has a list price of $207 million."


This, right here, is the difference between our American culture and the rest of the world. Had this been reversed (Japanese plane and American airline) there would have been arguments for recalls, demands the company stand by their product and warranty it, threats of legal action...

/Who am I kidding, the Japanese would have never let such garbage out of their country.
 
GBB
2013-01-09 01:59:08 PM
t1.gstatic.com

Who said anything about sabotage??
 
2013-01-09 04:01:33 PM

starrion: OMG WTF

They had an airplane flight they needed to delay because they had to replace a brake part.

yesterday they apparently put too much fuel in the plane and boston and it went out the overflow vent.

The day before that a battery overheated and someone hit it with an ax.

Tomorrow they may have to replace a part on a different aircraft of the 50 planes flying a round the world.


Thanks, my friend. Perhaps you should head on over to airliners.net where the pro-Airbus crowd are eating this up.

Oh, and a word of warning. Some of the non-US members over there will flame you for being pro-Boeing, and any post you make critical of Airbus will be deleted with the swiftness.

/All the 787 problems are nothing compared to Airbus's A380 with the wings that could break in flight or with RR engines that want to destroy themselves and the Airbuses they are hung from.
 
2013-01-09 04:10:47 PM

Mi-5: starrion: OMG WTF

They had an airplane flight they needed to delay because they had to replace a brake part.

yesterday they apparently put too much fuel in the plane and boston and it went out the overflow vent.

The day before that a battery overheated and someone hit it with an ax.

Tomorrow they may have to replace a part on a different aircraft of the 50 planes flying a round the world.

Thanks, my friend. Perhaps you should head on over to airliners.net where the pro-Airbus crowd are eating this up.

Oh, and a word of warning. Some of the non-US members over there will flame you for being pro-Boeing, and any post you make critical of Airbus will be deleted with the swiftness.

/All the 787 problems are nothing compared to Airbus's A380 with the wings that could break in flight or with RR engines that want to destroy themselves and the Airbuses they are hung from.


I sometimes browse that site for the awesome pics and such.  Had no idea they were all a bunch of Airbus fanboys.
 
2013-01-09 04:15:28 PM

Mi-5: starrion: OMG WTF

They had an airplane flight they needed to delay because they had to replace a brake part.

yesterday they apparently put too much fuel in the plane and boston and it went out the overflow vent.

The day before that a battery overheated and someone hit it with an ax.

Tomorrow they may have to replace a part on a different aircraft of the 50 planes flying a round the world.

Thanks, my friend. Perhaps you should head on over to airliners.net where the pro-Airbus crowd are eating this up.

Oh, and a word of warning. Some of the non-US members over there will flame you for being pro-Boeing, and any post you make critical of Airbus will be deleted with the swiftness.

/All the 787 problems are nothing compared to Airbus's A380 with the wings that could break in flight or with RR engines that want to destroy themselves and the Airbuses they are hung from.


QA 32 was landed safely with no injuries. Yes, the computer system needs to be adjusted for total loss of wing control and connectivity, but redundancy works. Think about what would have happened in some older 4 engine jets losing #2 and much of the control system in one wing.

Much as pilots malign it, the Airbus flight control system is a textbook example of how to do safety critical systems engineering, and it regularly saves lives by catching minor pilot mistakes. You can crash an Airbus, but doing a couple of stupid things to compound a mechanical failure is a pre-requisite (like a stall test at FL40, Air NZ please note).

The only significant downside of the Airbus automation approach is pilots get too used to it, and don't know how to respond when there are sensor failures and the computer has to punt. Better manual control training for handling emergencies is the answer.

The overall safety and reliability records of Boeing jets are excellent ... the Airbus family is even better. Also, they are more comfy for passengers (can't wait to try BusinessFirst on the A380 :)
 
2013-01-09 05:36:57 PM

TheSelphie: Not only did this take place in Japan, it was also a different airline. But still, you won't see me flying on a 787 anytime soon.


More for the rest of us... flew steerage on one of Continental's United's 787s a few weeks ago (Houston to Chicago) and it was a sweet, sweet ride.  Return flight was a POS 757, so I had a good basis for comparison.
 
2013-01-09 05:49:56 PM

humanshrapnel: Or more likely, were DICTATED BY the people holding the purse strings of the compan(ies) that THEY WILL develop a highly complex piece of machinery with new untested technology (in terms of years of service life) in record time with an appreciable cost savings. Quality costs time and money, two things companies aren't fond of spending and try very hard to avoid.


A thousand times this. I used to be the Production Manager in *name redacted* satellite guidance control company. When things started to get beyond rushed, when the President was demoing equipment that was little more than a machined chunk of aluminum with a plug in the side (and the PC was running an emulator), the writing was more than on the wall.
 
2013-01-09 07:01:36 PM
DeathCipris check the records the Japanese where very much involved in the 787 build and caused a good portion of the 3 year delay. The time used to fix there little wing problem . Boeing in fact did not let their garbage out of Japan . If want to troll then have at least so facts right no mater how distorted they may be . After this is Fark !
 
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