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(Huffington Post)   The latest Birther target? Chief Justice John Roberts, whom they want impeached if he swears in the foreign usurper Balrog HUSSEIN Taxbongo for a second term   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 57
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2013-01-09 02:14:10 PM  
4 votes:
Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was born and raised in Kansas by parents who were born in Kansas. = End of story, this alone makes him an American citizen.
2013-01-09 02:13:30 PM  
3 votes:
I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.
2013-01-09 02:09:48 PM  
3 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Midway through the oath Obama is going to stop, take the Bible from Roberts' hands, tear it asunder to reveal the secret Koran within, then tear off his suit to reveal a dashiki -- cut very tightly in the groinal regions -- before finishing the oath in that African clicking language, then climbing atop the podium and doing an Atomic Koran Drop on Roberts and, as the Kenyan National Anthem plays, looking into the camera and saying "You should have listened to the blogger-patriots!" before breaking into maniacal laughter and taking a Sharpie to the Constitution to cross out "to bear arms" and replace it with "mandatory gay marriage."


I would pay serious money to see this.
2013-01-09 02:50:51 PM  
2 votes:

profplump: leonel: Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one?

They're not arguing he's not a US citizen, they're arguing he's not "natural born". To be fair (which is waaaay more than they deserve) it's not explicitly clear what "natural born" means in this context -- most people take it to mean "citizen at birth" (as opposed to being naturalized after birth) but that isn't spelled out explicitly, so you could make up some other definition.

My favorite part about this is these same people would claim they're the strongest supporters of the American Dream -- that any man can achieve success regardless of his origins. All the while claiming that Obama lacks sufficiently noble bloodlines to become president.

For that matter the whole requirement seems like a bad idea at this point -- are we still afraid the King of Spain is going send in his son to usurp power from the US government? Requirements like "is a US citizen" and "has lived in the US for at least 10 of the past 20 years" or things like that seem reasonable; where your mother was standing when you (or she) were born hardly seems like relevant criteria in selecting a president.


If it were up to me, I'd ditch all the requirements to run for the office of President and leave it up to the voters to decide whether or not they want to elect a 5-year old child in Nepal. Something tells me that is not going to happen however.

What is a tad more realistic is changing the natural birth requirement to a "must be a citizen for at least 35 years" requirement.
2013-01-09 02:46:17 PM  
2 votes:

DancingElkCondor: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Natural Born Citizen is the issue......where one must be born inside the country AND the parents are both US citizens at the time of birth.

Unfortunately you will not get real discussion on the subject because the same people so critical of anyone bringing up the issue are the same ones who get their science from Al Gore and Al Gorezeera


Are you serious? Please site that information. I am a Natural born citizen as I was born in Chicago though my parents were Brazilian.
2013-01-09 02:42:48 PM  
2 votes:

bhcompy: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Technically speaking the high court has never decided if someone born not on US soil qualifies. John McCain was in the same situation, since he was born in the Canal Zone.


What's really interesting is that the State Department has specifically said that birth on a military base is not sufficient for citizenship under the 14th Amendment. Additionally, while parents can convey their citizenship to their children this was not true for parents who gave birth in the Panama Canal Zone at the time of John McCain's birth - his citizenship was retroactively conferred upon him (and everyone else born in the Panama Canal Zone) by an Act of Congress about a year after he was born.

Now, I think personally that McCain was eligible but can you imagine how much louder the Republicans would've screamed had the situation I just described been applied to Obama? I wonder why they didn't question McCain's birth status. I wonder what could be different about the two men. Hmm..I wonder.

It couldn't possibly be that the Right is full of racists, since I have been reassured many times that they are not racists.
2013-01-09 02:15:47 PM  
2 votes:

leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.


Yes, they are basically saying he meets every qualification of a natural born citizen, while saying that because he has met all the qualifications of a natural born citizen, he obviously is not one.  It's one of the most baffling things they have come up with yet, and that really is saying a lot.
2013-01-09 02:14:48 PM  
2 votes:
Some one needs to shut these people the fark up once and for all.
2013-01-09 12:27:59 PM  
2 votes:

SnarfVader: So, let me get this straight. Obama served a term but really wasn't president because he was ineligible. Does that mean that term didn't count? If so, then why would the 22nd amendment apply to him? Obama 2016!!!!


Either that, or it's a President Biden.  I'm not sure precisely what the goal is here.  Even if it were conclusively proven that Barack "The Islamic Shock" Hussein Fartbongo were born in Kenya, that won't make Sarah Palin automatically president.
2013-01-09 11:51:20 AM  
2 votes:
So, let me get this straight. Obama served a term but really wasn't president because he was ineligible. Does that mean that term didn't count? If so, then why would the 22nd amendment apply to him? Obama 2016!!!!
2013-01-09 10:17:10 AM  
2 votes:
Alright. This has gone on long enough. Where's Ashton? Come on out and show us where the cameras are.
2013-01-09 09:01:27 PM  
1 votes:
Per Wikipedia's US citizenship requirements page:Link
"
Under certain circumstances, children may acquire U.S. citizenship from their parents. The following conditions affect children born outside the U.S. and its outlying possessions to married parents (special conditions affect children born out of wedlock: see below):[6]

If both parents are U.S. citizens, the child is a citizen if either of the parents has ever legally resided in the U.S. prior to the child's birth
If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is a U.S. national, the child is a citizen if the U.S. citizen parent has lived in the U.S. for a continuous period of at least one year prior to the child's birth
If one parent is a U.S. citizen and the other parent is not, the child is a citizen if
the U.S. citizen parent has been "physically present"[7] in the U.S. before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and
at least two of those five years were after the U.S. citizen parent's fourteenth birthday.[8]
"

Obama's mother was born in Kansas, and presuming she was older than 5 when she gave birth to him, that qualifies him fully. He could be born on the dark side of Mars and this would still hold true. This is due to the legal concept 'jus sanguinis' (latin for Right of Blood) and has been in effect for US citizenship for over a century at this point.
2013-01-09 08:49:51 PM  
1 votes:

mbillips: Like John McCain, GHWB served in the Navy, you ignoramus, not the "airforce," which didn't even exist in WWII.i>

Sure it did. The Army Air Forces were formed in 1942 as a distinct component of the Army by executive order, much as the Marine Corps is a distinct component of the Navy. In 1947 the USAF was formed from the AAF and removed from the Department of the Army.

2013-01-09 05:49:53 PM  
1 votes:

KangTheMad: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Absolutely correct. McCain wasn't born in America either, nobody complained about that.


Obama was born in Hawaii.
2013-01-09 04:56:57 PM  
1 votes:
The birthers have invented an entirely new category of citizenship, native born. In their green-sky world, a person is only a natural born citizen if both of his parents were citizens, even if he was born in the U.S. By being born in the U.S., Obama gets to be a native born citizen but not a natural born citizen.

Another alternate reality they've created is that Obama was a natural born citizen at birth but lost his citizenship by moving to Indonesia. He got it back when he returned to the U.S. but it was then naturalized citizenship, not natural born citizenship. Go ahead and count the number of things wrong with that theory.

Under Kenyan law, Obama had Kenyan citizenship at birth because his dad was a Kenyan citizen (if you want to keep your Kenyan citizenship you have to go there and formally claim it within 2 years of your 21st birthday). The birthers also like to claim Obama's Kenyan citizenship means that Obama can't be a natural born citizen. They don't seem to realize they're claiming that the laws of another country dictate U.S. law and citizenship.
2013-01-09 04:55:42 PM  
1 votes:
Well, I figured with the glut of Constitutional scholars floating around in this thread, I might finally get an answer to this question:

I was born in Britain, to a British mother and American father (serving in the Navy at the time). I was born both a British and American citizen. I moved to this country when I was 2 and have lived here since.

Am I eligible for the Presidency?
2013-01-09 04:47:27 PM  
1 votes:
GoodyearPimp: Well, actually the Senate passed a resolution affirming that McCain met the requirements. I think the fact that they didn't do the same for Obama speaks for itself.

bhcompy: Technically speaking the high court has never decided if someone born not on US soil qualifies. John McCain was in the same situation, since he was born in the Canal Zone.

That Senate resolution was sponsored and introduced by a Senator named Barack Obama, a gracious and classy move on his part. There is no law that says someone born on an overseas military base is a natural born citizen, it's just a general assumption. Obama introduced the resolution to remove any doubt and said that he did it because someone should not be unable to run for President because his parents were serving their country.
2013-01-09 04:10:44 PM  
1 votes:

Lord Dimwit: Mad_Radhu: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

There was this weird citizenship law at the time that basically stripped citizenship from anyone who was not born on US soil who had one US parent that was not old enough. Since his mother was under that age when he was born, that stupid law, since changed, would have made him a non-citizen despite having a mother that was a full citizen.

It's not that she wasn't old enough, it's that she hadn't lived long enough in the US prior to the birth. You had to live in the US for something like three of the previous five years before the birth and she had been living overseas. Not that it matters, since he was born in Hawaii.


See, this is the part that really confuses me. This lady apparently had the option of giving birth in Hawai'i or Kenya. Admittedly, I don't know much about Kenya, but are you really going to pass up a chance to have your kid in farking Hawai'i? I mean, how cool is that?
2013-01-09 04:10:21 PM  
1 votes:

Ed Grubermann: bhcompy:  Rest assured if he won there would have been hubbub.

That's bullshiat and you know it.


Look at the bullshiat that Bush went through from the left about his past(hell, and his present.. his mannerisms, speech patterns, daughters, vacations, etc). You don't think that that wouldn't have continued? You're blind.

Dimensio: DancingElkCondor: Natural Born Citizen is the issue......where one must be born inside the country AND the parents are both US citizens at the time of birth.

I am certain that you will be able to cite a Constitutional provision, federal statute or court ruling that affirms the definition that you have provided. Please do so.


Or you can just read the adequately sourced article on Wikipedia that discusses the matter. The Constitution does not define what a Natural Born Citizen is and the courts have never completely fleshed out the definition. His definition is the most strict definition, and it one that some people in the law and government community have held historically, like here:

If it was intended that anybody who was a citizen by birth should be eligible, it would only have been necessary to say, "no person, except a native-born citizen"; but the framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the president should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth. It may be observed in passing that the current phrase "native-born citizen" is well understood; but it is pleonasm and should be discarded; and the correct designation, "native citizen" should be substituted in all constitutional and statutory enactments, in judicial decisions and in legal discussions where accuracy and precise language are essential to intelligent discussion. -Alexander Porter Morse, Albany Law Journal

That doesn't mean that it's the prevailing definition, but it is one that has been held by people of note.
2013-01-09 03:51:20 PM  
1 votes:
Obama should send birthers a copy of this:

www.clusterfake.net
2013-01-09 03:14:07 PM  
1 votes:

The Why Not Guy: Can one of our Fark Independents remind me again how both sides are the same, or maybe point out something similar a Democrat did in 1952?


Estes Kefauver, a Democrat from Tennessee, was Adlai Stevenson's running mate in 1956. Because of Kefauver and his bullshiat juvenile delinquency hearings, the Comics Code Authority destroyed EC Comics, thousands of negatives of Bettie Page photos were destroyed, and Bettie herself retired rather than deal with the senate witch hunts.

Does that work?
2013-01-09 03:13:24 PM  
1 votes:
Sorry. Lost some formating.

Wikipedia article on McCarry (from which I copied the above):


 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_McCarry"
2013-01-09 03:09:04 PM  
1 votes:

BMFPitt: Lord Dimwit: DancingElkCondor: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Natural Born Citizen is the issue......where one must be born inside the country AND the parents are both US citizens at the time of birth.

Unfortunately you will not get real discussion on the subject because the same people so critical of anyone bringing up the issue are the same ones who get their science from Al Gore and Al Gorezeera

I have never seen this, anywhere, at all, before people starting trying to say Obama wasn't eligible. If that were true than neither was Chester A. Arthur, whose father was an Irish citizen at the time of his birth and his mother a Canadian citizen. No one seriously believes that Chester A. Arthur's Presidency was invalid, do they?

Actually yes, there were 19th century birthers. Seriously, look it up.


From Wiki:

"William Arthur's frequent moves would later form the basis for accusations that Chester Arthur was not a native-born citizen of the United States. After Arthur was nominated for Vice President in 1880, his political opponents suggested that he might be constitutionally ineligible to hold that office.[8] A New York attorney, Arthur P. Hinman, apparently hired by his opponents, explored rumors of Arthur's foreign birth.[9] Hinman initially alleged that Arthur was born in Ireland and did not come to the United States until he was fourteen years old, which would make him ineligible for the Vice Presidency under the United States Constitution's natural-born citizen clause.[9][c] When that story did not take root, Hinman spread a new rumor that Arthur was born in Canada, but this claim also failed to gain credence.[9]"

Apparently, derp repeats itself.
2013-01-09 03:06:43 PM  
1 votes:

radiumsoup: actually, the most recent Birther derptaciousness is from the Left, aimed at Texas' newest Republican Senator, Ted Cruz. They're trying hard to head him off at the pass before he makes any annoucement to run.

Straight from the horse's mouth


In his primary campaign for Senate last year, Republican Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst mentioned Cruz's birthplace in a Web ad. Democrat Paul Sadler, Cruz's general election opponent, was more explicit.

"Rafael Cruz - 'Ted', that's what he goes by, his real name is Rafael - was born in Canada, educated at Harvard," Sadler told local Dallas affiliate WFAA.


Sounds more like Xenophobic Derp and Politcio "drive the story. Win the news cycle" than liberal derp, especially since everyone in the article pretty much says he's eligible.
2013-01-09 03:05:39 PM  
1 votes:
Can one of our Fark Independents remind me again how both sides are the same, or maybe point out something similar a Democrat did in 1952?
2013-01-09 03:03:17 PM  
1 votes:

Lochsteppe: Of course not. Chester A. Arthur had the proper skin color for service as the head of the Executive Branch, as set forth in the Leventy-Ninth Amendment.


Chester AKBAR Arthur? We're lucky the union survived.
2013-01-09 03:02:28 PM  
1 votes:

All2morrowsparTs: Are you serious? Please site that information.


Good luck with that. It's a completely made up requirement that the birthers have gone with.
2013-01-09 03:02:20 PM  
1 votes:

Lord Dimwit: DancingElkCondor: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Natural Born Citizen is the issue......where one must be born inside the country AND the parents are both US citizens at the time of birth.

Unfortunately you will not get real discussion on the subject because the same people so critical of anyone bringing up the issue are the same ones who get their science from Al Gore and Al Gorezeera

I have never seen this, anywhere, at all, before people starting trying to say Obama wasn't eligible. If that were true than neither was Chester A. Arthur, whose father was an Irish citizen at the time of his birth and his mother a Canadian citizen. No one seriously believes that Chester A. Arthur's Presidency was invalid, do they?


Actually yes, there were 19th century birthers. Seriously, look it up.
2013-01-09 03:01:27 PM  
1 votes:

By the by, former CIA agent, Charles McCary wrote a novel about a stolen electin in 1995, years before the 2000 fiasco. In it, a Liberal Supreme Court Justic conspired to elect an extremist President. Substitute "conservative" for "liberal' and you have a roman à clef about what really happened.

Also, the movie Wrong is Right is based on another of his novels, about a conspiracy to impeach a liberal President after tricking him into ordering the assasination of a Middle East leader, and the framing of a Saddam Hussein-like rebel leader. The nuclear suitcase bombs in the movie are placed on the World Trade Center towers. As a result of the resignation of the liberal, a gung ho Texas politician is elected and goes to war with the Middle Eastern country in question, thus ensuring the USA's oil supply in the same way proposed by a the-secret plan created by the Nixon administration, for which McCary worked.

Personally I suspect that both plots were known to McCarry as a CIA agent, and were subsequently carried out in the real world.

I'm not saying that the CIA carried out these plots. But George Bush Sr. was parachuted into the CIA Director's office by Nixon (and was recruted in politics, if not the CIA, by the same man who recruted Nixon into politics, namely the more controversial of the two Dulles brothers. The would have been familiar to him and to others like him in the Republican Party, the Company and possibly elsewhere.

Personally I think the Republican Party has been a hotbed of sedition and unConstitutional conspiracy since before Bush Sr.'s father and grandfather were let off the hook for Trading with the Enemy and before Bush Sr. himself joined the airforce (a necessary but not sufficient step towards joining the Company).

Furthermore, I believe that the George Bush of the CIA who was interviewed by J. Edgar Hoover after the Kennedy assassination and the George Bush of the CIA who provided ships (two of them named Barbara and Houston) to the Bay of Pigs operation were all one person, the young George Bush who joined the airforce at 18 or 19 to live down the scandal of his forefathers.

Damn few conspiracy theories are supported by this kind of circumstantial evidence I have presented here, or any evidence at all. Screw the Birthers, the 911ers, the Tenthers, the Obama haters, the JFK Assassination theorists, and so forth. Their conspiracies don't hold one tenth the water that mine do.

www.metroactive.com
Charles McCarry, CIA agent and spy novelist.
May look like Svengali, but the real conspirators were elsewhere
2013-01-09 02:56:10 PM  
1 votes:

Lord Dimwit: DancingElkCondor: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Natural Born Citizen is the issue......where one must be born inside the country AND the parents are both US citizens at the time of birth.

Unfortunately you will not get real discussion on the subject because the same people so critical of anyone bringing up the issue are the same ones who get their science from Al Gore and Al Gorezeera

I have never seen this, anywhere, at all, before people starting trying to say Obama wasn't eligible. If that were true than neither was Chester A. Arthur, whose father was an Irish citizen at the time of his birth and his mother a Canadian citizen. No one seriously believes that Chester A. Arthur's Presidency was invalid, do they?


Of course not. Chester A. Arthur had the proper skin color for service as the head of the Executive Branch, as set forth in the Leventy-Ninth Amendment.
2013-01-09 02:55:02 PM  
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

There was this weird citizenship law at the time that basically stripped citizenship from anyone who was not born on US soil who had one US parent that was not old enough. Since his mother was under that age when he was born, that stupid law, since changed, would have made him a non-citizen despite having a mother that was a full citizen.


Not applicable, since he was born on US soil. You're getting your birther nonsense confused :) Today's derp is "he was born in the US but not a natural born citizen because his blackedy-black father wasn't a citizen."
2013-01-09 02:52:52 PM  
1 votes:

Mad_Radhu: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

There was this weird citizenship law at the time that basically stripped citizenship from anyone who was not born on US soil who had one US parent that was not old enough. Since his mother was under that age when he was born, that stupid law, since changed, would have made him a non-citizen despite having a mother that was a full citizen.


It's not that she wasn't old enough, it's that she hadn't lived long enough in the US prior to the birth. You had to live in the US for something like three of the previous five years before the birth and she had been living overseas. Not that it matters, since he was born in Hawaii.
2013-01-09 02:47:24 PM  
1 votes:

Lord Dimwit: DancingElkCondor: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Natural Born Citizen is the issue......where one must be born inside the country AND the parents are both US citizens at the time of birth.

Unfortunately you will not get real discussion on the subject because the same people so critical of anyone bringing up the issue are the same ones who get their science from Al Gore and Al Gorezeera

I have never seen this, anywhere, at all, before people starting trying to say Obama wasn't eligible. If that were true than neither was Chester A. Arthur, whose father was an Irish citizen at the time of his birth and his mother a Canadian citizen. No one seriously believes that Chester A. Arthur's Presidency was invalid, do they?


...just checked the Internets. His mother was a US citizen, not Canadian. His father was an Irish citizen at the time of his birth, so it actually even more closely parallels Obama's circumstances.
2013-01-09 02:46:30 PM  
1 votes:

DancingElkCondor: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Natural Born Citizen is the issue......where one must be born inside the country AND the parents are both US citizens at the time of birth.

Unfortunately you will not get real discussion on the subject because the same people so critical of anyone bringing up the issue are the same ones who get their science from Al Gore and Al Gorezeera


I have never seen this, anywhere, at all, before people starting trying to say Obama wasn't eligible. If that were true than neither was Chester A. Arthur, whose father was an Irish citizen at the time of his birth and his mother a Canadian citizen. No one seriously believes that Chester A. Arthur's Presidency was invalid, do they?
2013-01-09 02:40:02 PM  
1 votes:
Huffpo, DIAF for your farking autoplay videos!

/time to reenable scriptblocker
2013-01-09 02:38:11 PM  
1 votes:

leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.


Technically speaking the high court has never decided if someone born not on US soil qualifies. John McCain was in the same situation, since he was born in the Canal Zone.
2013-01-09 02:33:02 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Midway through the oath Obama is going to stop, take the Bible from Roberts' hands, tear it asunder to reveal the secret Koran within, then tear off his suit to reveal a dashiki -- cut very tightly in the groinal regions -- before finishing the oath in that African clicking language, then climbing atop the podium and doing an Atomic Koran Drop on Roberts and, as the Kenyan National Anthem plays, looking into the camera and saying "You should have listened to the blogger-patriots!" before breaking into maniacal laughter and taking a Sharpie to the Constitution to cross out "to bear arms" and replace it with "mandatory gay marriage."


i2.kym-cdn.com
2013-01-09 02:29:50 PM  
1 votes:
It's good to know that as much as the 2000 florida debacle darkened the sky for liberals, a little melanin has made it pour fire and shiat for the teatards.

good luck with that.
2013-01-09 02:28:20 PM  
1 votes:

leonel: Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one?


They're not arguing he's not a US citizen, they're arguing he's not "natural born". To be fair (which is waaaay more than they deserve) it's not explicitly clear what "natural born" means in this context -- most people take it to mean "citizen at birth" (as opposed to being naturalized after birth) but that isn't spelled out explicitly, so you could make up some other definition.

My favorite part about this is these same people would claim they're the strongest supporters of the American Dream -- that any man can achieve success regardless of his origins. All the while claiming that Obama lacks sufficiently noble bloodlines to become president.

For that matter the whole requirement seems like a bad idea at this point -- are we still afraid the King of Spain is going send in his son to usurp power from the US government? Requirements like "is a US citizen" and "has lived in the US for at least 10 of the past 20 years" or things like that seem reasonable; where your mother was standing when you (or she) were born hardly seems like relevant criteria in selecting a president.
2013-01-09 02:27:23 PM  
1 votes:
... The sad thing is, These people breed.

/"Just think - National Enquirer Readers are among the elite intellectual minority who actually READ! (Have a Nice Day)"/
2013-01-09 02:26:54 PM  
1 votes:

DancingElkCondor: leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.

Natural Born Citizen is the issue......where one must be born inside the country AND the parents are both US citizens at the time of birth.

Unfortunately you will not get real discussion on the subject because the same people so critical of anyone bringing up the issue are the same ones who get their science from Al Gore and Al Gorezeera


No... no, that's not the issue. An established fact doesn't become a contested issue just because you want it to be.
2013-01-09 02:23:57 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Midway through the oath Obama is going to stop, take the Bible from Roberts' hands, tear it asunder to reveal the secret Koran within, then tear off his suit to reveal a dashiki -- cut very tightly in the groinal regions -- before finishing the oath in that African clicking language, then climbing atop the podium and doing an Atomic Koran Drop on Roberts and, as the Kenyan National Anthem plays, looking into the camera and saying "You should have listened to the blogger-patriots!" before breaking into maniacal laughter and taking a Sharpie to the Constitution to cross out "to bear arms" and replace it with "mandatory gay marriage."


You're on a roll today.
2013-01-09 02:18:47 PM  
1 votes:

leonel: I don't get it. Shouldn't the fact that the mother alone is a US born citizen be enough to quell at least the father not being one? I thought as long as one parent is a US citizen, the kid automatically is at least in my case when my dad registered me at the US embassy in Indonesia.


Birthers don't let little things like facts and reason deter them
2013-01-09 02:18:25 PM  
1 votes:
What comes after embarrassment??

oooh Oooooh pick me....pick me!!!

What is crazier than a shiathouse rat?

You are correct
2013-01-09 02:18:02 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Midway through the oath Obama is going to stop, take the Bible from Roberts' hands, tear it asunder to reveal the secret Koran within, then tear off his suit to reveal a dashiki -- cut very tightly in the groinal regions -- before finishing the oath in that African clicking language, then climbing atop the podium and doing an Atomic Koran Drop on Roberts and, as the Kenyan National Anthem plays, looking into the camera and saying "You should have listened to the blogger-patriots!" before breaking into maniacal laughter and taking a Sharpie to the Constitution to cross out "to bear arms" and replace it with "mandatory gay marriage."


+1 would lol again
2013-01-09 02:14:55 PM  
1 votes:
I wonder if any of these morons ever have a moment of clarity and realize they're completely farked in the head and should seek some help?
2013-01-09 01:35:14 PM  
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Publikwerks: Do they realize that if Roberts was tossed somehow after Obama was sworn in, Obama would choose his replacement?

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Don't tell them!


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Don't worry, they're not listening anyway.
2013-01-09 01:27:57 PM  
1 votes:

Publikwerks: Do they realize that if Roberts was tossed somehow after Obama was sworn in, Obama would choose his replacement?


SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Don't tell them!
2013-01-09 01:19:44 PM  
1 votes:

Raharu: it's really more of a paste now.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Chicken pate.
2013-01-09 01:15:30 PM  
1 votes:
Do they realize that if Roberts was tossed somehow after Obama was sworn in, Obama would choose his replacement?
2013-01-09 01:02:13 PM  
1 votes:
Here, allow me to summarize the article: I have no idea how citizenship works, so I'm going to yell at the clouds for a while
2013-01-09 12:53:18 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Midway through the oath Obama is going to stop, take the Bible from Roberts' hands, tear it asunder to reveal the secret Koran within, then tear off his suit to reveal a dashiki -- cut very tightly in the groinal regions -- before finishing the oath in that African clicking language, then climbing atop the podium and doing an Atomic Koran Drop on Roberts and, as the Kenyan National Anthem plays, looking into the camera and saying "You should have listened to the blogger-patriots!" before breaking into maniacal laughter and taking a Sharpie to the Constitution to cross out "to bear arms" and replace it with "mandatory gay marriage."


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+1 for "Atomic Koran Drop"
2013-01-09 12:30:02 PM  
1 votes:
Oh, Balrog Obama has a fun GIS.

www.jeffhead.com

/thanks subby
2013-01-09 12:02:23 PM  
1 votes:
Midway through the oath Obama is going to stop, take the Bible from Roberts' hands, tear it asunder to reveal the secret Koran within, then tear off his suit to reveal a dashiki -- cut very tightly in the groinal regions -- before finishing the oath in that African clicking language, then climbing atop the podium and doing an Atomic Koran Drop on Roberts and, as the Kenyan National Anthem plays, looking into the camera and saying "You should have listened to the blogger-patriots!" before breaking into maniacal laughter and taking a Sharpie to the Constitution to cross out "to bear arms" and replace it with "mandatory gay marriage."
2013-01-09 11:02:41 AM  
1 votes:

Blues_X: Raharu: FlashHarry: WND still farking that poor chicken, i see.
it's really more of a paste now.

Soon it will just be a chicken nugget.


No.  It will be the pink slime of the pre-nugget.
2013-01-09 09:32:19 AM  
1 votes:

FlashHarry: WND still farking that poor chicken, i see.

it's really more of a paste now.
2013-01-09 09:28:03 AM  
1 votes:
WND still farking that poor chicken, i see.
 
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