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2013-01-09 12:16:11 PM  
19 votes:
Subtext: "I am a coward and a failure at everything I've ever tried. I have elaborate revenge fantasies about the abuse I take at my menial job from superiors and co-workers alike. My wife utterly controls my life and does not allow me to control any aspect of my life. My children mock and belittle me. This note is my sad and desperate attempt to pretend I am something within a time zone of being a man, even if just for a few seconds. Even though you are a service worker and most likely a disinterested teenager I would never have the courage to say something like this to your face, lest I break down into tears and be forced to trudge to my 1994 Chevy Lumina with Dockers beshat."
2013-01-09 11:38:01 AM  
13 votes:
As an aside...Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out; particularly at a sit-down restaurant that will involve tipping. If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.
2013-01-09 11:28:57 AM  
9 votes:
If you're that worried, you cheap piece of shiat, you shouldn't be spending money at a restaurant.
2013-01-09 01:38:20 PM  
7 votes:

Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.


Here is the thing.  Acceptable tips range from 15%-20% here in the US.  20% is really the new norm.  If you step back and think about it, simply adding 20% to all prices is not how it is going to work.  (I have no links for this, but if you search you can find it, economists have studies this)...in reality, your meal would actually be somewhere closer to 40% higher because of payroll taxes, social security, all kinds of stuff.

Here is the other thing.  Yes, in very simple restaurants, it is a easy as bringing a soda and food to a table.  But that is the exception to the rule.

Generally, guests are EXTREMELY demanding.  Let me ask you something - has your waiter ever come back to your table, and ask how everything is and if he can get you something and you say "everything is great, I am all set..."  Then not even 30 seconds later, you ask for an additional side of ranch?  The waiter gets your ranch and then you ask for a side of ketchup...that in the industry is what is known as "running you around" (you being the waiter).  Common courtesy would dictate that you would have asked for your ranch and ketchup the very first time.  Now, why am I going through this?  Because as a waiter, you develop and adapt to your tables as best as you can, you have a rhythm that you keep, and when someone piece meals their requests it gets VERY frustrating and it actually effects the service of other tables.  Ever been sitting there wondering why your Coke is taking so damn long to get to your table?  It is likely because of another guest/table, not a bad waiter.

It takes a pretty well honed set of skills to deal with the general public, especially around food and keep a smile.

Spitting, peeing, cumming, etc into peoples food does happen, but it is VERY rare.  I would argue that it is a fallacy perpetuated by Hollywood and folklore more than anything else...seasoned professionals do not do that, especially in nicer restaurants.  What will likely happen if you give a bad tip for no reason other than you disagreeing with the "American Style Tipping System" is that you are going to get mediocre and likely rushed service (I want to turn your shiatty tipping ass out of here ASAP so I can make some real money).  It is simply not worth my time as a waiter to invest being nice, staying on top of your meal progress, refilling your water/drinks, etc. because no matter how great I perform, I know it is for nothing.  If you are regularly stiffing the staff at the places you frequent, it is likely you are well known as a bad tipper, and the waiter's service to your table reflects that.
2013-01-09 11:42:47 AM  
7 votes:

Three Crooked Squirrels: Well, that sounds felonious.


It sounds like made-up bullsh*t.
2013-01-09 02:43:46 PM  
6 votes:
I don't care what your socio-economic standing is, EVERYONE should be required to spend a good 6mo to a year in some sort of service industry. Hell, make it a class to be taken during senior year of high school. Maybe then we might be able to avoid this sort of douchebaggery.
2013-01-09 02:49:36 PM  
5 votes:

HoratioGates: The really dick part is he left it after eating there. If you want to debate politics, at least have the balls to be upfront about it.


No, the really dick part is where he went out to eat with a deliberate plan of not tipping regardless of the quality of service and to leave a note saying, "No, this was not an oversight, I actually am as much of an asshole as it seems."
2013-01-09 11:41:59 AM  
5 votes:

kid_icarus: Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out


I was thinking the same thing.  The tip isn't the "discretionary" part, the eating at a restaurant is.
2013-01-09 09:33:09 AM  
5 votes:
I hope that person gets cancer of the anus.
2013-01-09 11:45:13 AM  
4 votes:

Trivia Jockey: More likely, this guy is financially able to tip...he just uses this as a way to express his importent rage over Obama's reelection.

Which also makes him an asshole.


He'd be a complete dick if not for the lack of tip.
2013-01-09 11:43:07 AM  
4 votes:
More likely, this guy is financially able to tip...he just uses this as a way to express his importent rage over Obama's reelection.

Which also makes him an asshole.
2013-01-09 11:34:37 AM  
4 votes:

JFarker131: This, a thousand times. I've waited tables, worked in coffee shops, been a bartender. Leave a crappy tip, I will fark with your food, or have someone more disgusting than me do it so I don't have to.

/talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce, he complimented the owner after his meal on the new recipe they were using.
//ew.


Well, that sounds felonious.  But at least you can sleep better at night knowing you are the better person.
2013-01-09 09:28:32 AM  
4 votes:
People who do this are destined to be gang-raped by karma.  I hope violently.
2013-01-09 02:58:35 PM  
3 votes:
In the 80's when I managed a little seaside bar with kick ass food we would occasionally get some douche or a table of them that would pull shiat like this. Since the place was small I would know if they had stiffed the staff real quick. I made it a point to follow them to the parking lot / pier and give them the sorry-ass tip back to them. Then I would tell them that I would properly tip their server and they were not allowed back until they thought about what douche bags they were. Many of these people were people with boats (and yachts) that would be part of the flowing armada of douchenozzle that sail up and down the eastern coast. (Think Ted Knight from Caddy Shack)
2013-01-09 02:49:52 PM  
3 votes:
The tantrum-throwing from the bootstrappy set over having to pay a couple dollars more in taxes just astounds me. I have a Facebook friend who is a complete hard-core right-winger--the kind who was posting how she couldn't stop crying after the election, and how scared she was about still having a job. She posted the other day, after the end of the fiscal cliff nonsense, about the horrible hit she'd taken on her paycheck, and how she was so sad because her family would need to find ways to cut back and one of them was to stop riding lessons for her daughter. What kind of insane jerk-wad gets so mad about this shiat that they take it out on their kid, and take away their horsey time, just so they can pretend they're all oppressed by crushing taxes?

This story is just more of that same nonsense. How bad are you managing your finances that a 2% change in Social Security and a minimal change in the high marginal tax brackets suddenly means you can't afford to tip your waiter? Wait, don't answer, it's a trick question. You're just being a dickhole to try to make a statement.
2013-01-09 02:27:16 PM  
3 votes:

Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.


Snopes - Claim: The word "tip" comes from an acronym for "To Insure Promptness" or "To Insure Performance." Status: False.
2013-01-09 02:26:02 PM  
3 votes:
If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal. Go to a damned drive thru instead.
2013-01-09 02:25:43 PM  
3 votes:
Last week I left my favorite watress a $60 tip on a $15 meal because it was the holiday season and I know she works much hard for less money than I do.  I always tip well.
2013-01-09 02:24:38 PM  
3 votes:
Man I really can't understand being so tight fisted you don't tip.

I mean, fark, I'm a physics grad student. If I were paid hourly, it'd probably be *below minimum wage*, but I still try to tip 20-30% (more often 30%, even if I get chastised a bit), if only to help make up for the assholes who DON'T tip.

Because, quite frankly, I know I could not work in the service sector without murdering someone after about, oh, a month. They have to deal with people who blame them personally when the kitchen is out of something. They have to deal with people who enjoy simply belittling them because they're a waiter. They deal with assholes like those in the aforementioned article.

FARK YES I am going to tip them. $15 pizza order? Here's $5 extra.

/Don't eat out or eat delivery often these days, mind. It also helps that a local pizza place gives you %30 off if you order via the web.
2013-01-09 02:15:12 PM  
3 votes:

xanadian: Protip: Do NOT stiff your waiter/waitress if you are out with your boss/potential boss on a business/interview lunch.


If you're dining with your boss or potential boss and he or she isn't paying, then you're doing it wrong.
2013-01-09 11:50:31 AM  
3 votes:

kid_icarus: If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.

2013-01-09 11:49:54 AM  
3 votes:

tricycleracer: If you're that worried, you cheap piece of shiat, you shouldn't be spending money at a restaurant.


They're not going to change their lifestyle. They're only going to change yours.
2013-01-09 11:00:50 AM  
3 votes:
I never trust these stories.
2013-01-09 09:45:53 AM  
3 votes:

kid_icarus: If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

/unless you like your steak served to you after being rubbed on the bathroom floor and seasoned with pubes



I sometimes wonder if people who pull sh*t like this realize the amount of saliva, snot, and semen they've unwittingly ingested in their lives.
2013-01-09 03:34:37 PM  
2 votes:

incendi: HoratioGates: The really dick part is he left it after eating there. If you want to debate politics, at least have the balls to be upfront about it.

No, the really dick part is where he went out to eat with a deliberate plan of not tipping regardless of the quality of service and to leave a note saying, "No, this was not an oversight, I actually am as much of an asshole as it seems."


No, the REALLY dick part is the part where he took the extra time and effort to print up this little card. And you just know he didn't print just one. This guy (why do I feel like we're all safe assuming it is a he?) is just going around town handing these out.
2013-01-09 03:18:51 PM  
2 votes:

meanmutton: pippi longstocking: I'm sure people making over $400K can't afford to leave a $5 tip for a meal...what a troll, probably another right-wing retard

Dude, you're going to be in for a surprise when you get paid this month -- EVERYONE at all income levels got hit with a 2 percentage point tax hike.


Surprise? Nope. I knew when the tax break went in that it was temporary with a sunset provision and I shouldn't rely on it continuing forever. I treated the extra in my paycheck as just that, extra.

But I suppose that if you go through life ignorant and utterly short-sighted, that yes, the sunsetting of the tax break that was put in place when the tax break was initially enacted somehow surprised you and caused you problems.
2013-01-09 03:07:01 PM  
2 votes:
I think the real issue and best way to solve the whole tipping thing is for restaurants to pay their servers an actual wage so that they are not required to make tips just to have enough money to survive. That way tips are extra, and paid for outstanding service, not the bulk of the paycheck.

The way it is now servers are almost required to flirt, show some skin, and put up with horrible shiat with a smile just to make enough to pay a light bill.

And the farking with your food thing....my wife used to wait tables and the worst thing was a steak dropped on the floor, then picked up and served. They used to get the bus-boys to crop dust rude customers regularly though.
2013-01-09 03:05:13 PM  
2 votes:

Contents Under Pressure: Lately, I'm seeing tip jars at bakeries. Somehow they have it in their heads that if a clerk bags or boxes up some pastries and sells it to you, they deserve a tip. I can see giving a tip to a barista because they are actually doing some work. A bakery clerk is just handing you a thing and taking money for it.


What about some douche-bag "bartender" who twists off a beer cap and hands you the bottle?
2013-01-09 03:00:38 PM  
2 votes:
Tipping is stupid.
2013-01-09 02:52:44 PM  
2 votes:
"We want to take more of your money, but you have to promise not to cut your spending in any other area!!!"

Thanks liberals.
2013-01-09 02:52:42 PM  
2 votes:
Douche. If you can't tip, don't go out to eat. As a former waiter, the only time in years I haven't tipped was when the service was so bad I actually made the manager remove the automatically added gratuity from our check just so I could leave 1 % instead of 18 (and given that we sat for an hour without bread or water before she even acknowledged us, that was pretty generous)

In other news, his complaint is somewhat valid. I know I had to tell two great charities that I've donated to for years that I can no longer afford to support . That extra 5% I'm getting boned this year has to come from somewhere, and as Obama isn't paying for my mortgage, kids braces or the college fund, it's got to come from discretionary funds.
2013-01-09 02:51:39 PM  
2 votes:
He who cannot give anything away cannot feel anything either.

- Friedrich Nietzsche
2013-01-09 02:41:52 PM  
2 votes:

jbezorg: Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.

Snopes - Claim: The word "tip" comes from an acronym for "To Insure Promptness" or "To Insure Performance." Status: False.


Also, the word would be "Ensure", not "Insure"
2013-01-09 02:34:34 PM  
2 votes:
If I was on a jury, and someone was on trial for poisoning someones food, and there defense was they'd gotten this 'tip' the last time they poison victim was in, I'd totally say it was justified and let them off.

The really dick part is he left it after eating there. If you want to debate politics, at least have the balls to be upfront about it.
2013-01-09 02:33:58 PM  
2 votes:

JFarker131: talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce


No, you didn't.

he complimented the owner after his meal on the new recipe they were using.

No, he didn't.

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2013-01-09 02:31:48 PM  
2 votes:

chevydeuce: Douche move, no doubt, but I still laughed....that took some time, thought and chutzpah, so I'll give him a giggle....

/I tip 15%-18% and that's not going to change anytime soon ever....don't like it? Fark you....


Time that could have been spent working to have the money to tip. Not tipping is not pulling your weight, plain and simple. Other people make it up with their tips, i.e., if nobody acted like a douche I would save money because the customary tip would likely be lower. People that don't tip are lower than homeless people on the street. Both classes of people don't pull their weight, but only with one of those classes of people can you say with 100% confidence that it was a personal decision every single time.
2013-01-09 02:26:51 PM  
2 votes:

Three Crooked Squirrels: JFarker131: This, a thousand times. I've waited tables, worked in coffee shops, been a bartender. Leave a crappy tip, I will fark with your food, or have someone more disgusting than me do it so I don't have to.

/talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce, he complimented the owner after his meal on the new recipe they were using.
//ew.

Well, that sounds felonious.  But at least you can sleep better at night knowing you are the better person.


Sounds like someone making up fantasies.

I've worked in food service before, and farking with someones food like that was a great way to get fired, and wouldn't be tolerated by anyone, be it management or fellow staff. Sure, being a jerk customer would make it take a little longer for your food to get to you, or it would be cold, or part of it would be intentionally screwed up, but actually farking with someones food was a line you didn't cross for any reason. MAYBE if you were notoriously bad and something fell on the floor it wouldn't get thrown out when it normally would have, but that was about as far as it went.
2013-01-09 02:25:21 PM  
2 votes:
I have to cut back on discretionary spending and gratuities. Well, mostly the gratuities part. Only the gratuities part.
2013-01-09 02:25:15 PM  
2 votes:
I'm sure people making over $400K can't afford to leave a $5 tip for a meal...what a troll, probably another right-wing retard
2013-01-09 02:24:46 PM  
2 votes:

kid_icarus: As an aside...Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out; particularly at a sit-down restaurant that will involve tipping. If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.


Or to print up a set of cards explaining why you can't afford to tip.

If this is real, it's one of the biggest dick moves ever.

Reminds me of the SNL parody commercial for the Jensen Mint, advertising phony coins for you to hand to homeless people.
2013-01-09 02:24:10 PM  
2 votes:
Why is it those "disgruntled food worker does something disgusting to obnoxious customer's food" stories always end with some variation of "And the customer said it was the best he'd ever eaten"?
2013-01-09 02:23:28 PM  
2 votes:

Shirley Ujest: He won't tip his server because he cannot afford it, but can afford to go out to eat.


I give this guy a World Class Troll Award.


So much this.  I am cutting back on spending.  This means going out to eat less, or not at all.  If/when I do go out to eat, I don't stiff on the tip, just like I don't stiff on the sales tax.  Funny how that works.
2013-01-09 02:23:00 PM  
2 votes:
Order 15-25% less food, you fat f*ck......
2013-01-09 02:20:27 PM  
2 votes:
If you can't afford to tip then don't go out to eat - how hard a conclusion is that to come to :/
2013-01-09 02:19:04 PM  
2 votes:
Republicans are disgusting, greedy people.

I'm nearly willing to bet he didn't actually experience a tax increase.
2013-01-09 02:17:37 PM  
2 votes:
Sounds like someone who's never worked a minimum wage job in his life.
2013-01-09 01:44:11 PM  
2 votes:

Endive Wombat: If you are regularly stiffing the staff at the places you frequent, it is likely you are well known as a bad tipper, and the waiter's service to your table reflects that.


Protip: Do NOT stiff your waiter/waitress if you are out with your boss/potential boss on a business/interview lunch. You will pay for it in the end.

Also, do NOT stiff your waiter/waitress if you're out on a date. NO SUCKY SUCKY FOR YOU
2013-01-09 01:40:31 PM  
2 votes:
Ah, a tea-tard's calling card.
2013-01-09 01:26:36 PM  
2 votes:
You know, stupid dumbshiats tipping guy probably used his credit card to pay for his meal. I would ID theft the bejesus out of him.
2013-01-09 01:17:04 PM  
2 votes:

kid_icarus: As an aside...Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out; particularly at a sit-down restaurant that will involve tipping. If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.


Its easier to be a cock to those below you (or at least, those you perceive as "below you") than it is to actually try and do some work on your own, like campaigning and getting people organized to change laws that you don't like.  Some people also just want to see the world burn, so there is that...
2013-01-09 11:58:59 AM  
2 votes:
Not being able to tip at a resturant is like buying a Ferrari but not getting ceramic brakes.
2013-01-09 11:28:39 AM  
2 votes:
That's the type of thing I'd do as a 13-year old skateboard-toting stoner who wanted a milkshake from Friendly's but only had the exact change in his pocket, so hey, why not "fight the system" while you're at it and have a laugh?

That anyone over the age of 13 and not stoned off their ass would do this intentionally is mind boggling.

/also, I've never done anything like that
//worst case was ordering only waters and getting a bill for $0.00
///we still left a tip
2013-01-09 09:34:52 AM  
2 votes:
If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

/unless you like your steak served to you after being rubbed on the bathroom floor and seasoned with pubes
2013-01-09 09:30:56 AM  
2 votes:
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2013-01-09 07:49:19 PM  
1 votes:
I have worked in may food establishments, and while I have never seen anyone deliberately taint any food for a lousy customer, I have definitely heard "Where is the rest of this ticket!? SHE TIPS!" or "No hurry, she doesn't tip."

As for why the BOH staff doesn't get tips: While I would honestly say that I consider the kitchen work "harder", I would never begrudge the waitstaff their tips I have usually worked in places where the FOH people ended up making more money than cooks, but I also know that if I had to wait on people, there would be a line of bodies leading back to the kitchen.

(And there is a special place in hell for people who leave things like this as a tip. Especially those tracts that look like money but unfold to say that "God's love is no joke!" Neither is my fiery rage.)
2013-01-09 07:41:11 PM  
1 votes:

PrivateCaboose: Cybernetic: If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal. Go to a damned drive thru instead.

Serious question - how much do you tip when you do an online order for takeout from a place like Nando's?


I have no idea what Nando's is. The only thing I order online is pizza, and for that I will generally tip the delivery driver a flat $5, which is usually at least 15% of the cost of the order--although if I had occasion to order a really huge amount of food (like for a party), I would tip more.

If I order takeout (like Chinese), where I order by phone, and then drive to the restaurant and pick it up, I generally don't tip, any more than I tip the person who hands me a Quarter Pounder through the window of a drive-thru.

When I eat in a restaurant, I generally tip 15%, usually rounded up to the next dollar or two. I have tipped up to 25% for exceptional service, and have on a couple of occasions tipped less for really horrible service, but it takes a lot to get me to that point. On one occasion, I had the manager of a restaurant pick up my bill because the kitchen had screwed up several things, and I still tipped the server 15% of the bill, because it wasn't her fault that things got screwed up, and I wasn't going to shaft her.

The guy who left the card pictured in TFA sat at a table, in a restaurant, was waited on, and then left that card instead of a tip, for someone who depends on tips for a significant portion of their income. IMHO, that's a dick move. If you can't afford that tip, you can't afford the meal.
2013-01-09 07:13:38 PM  
1 votes:

MycroftHolmes: A bar or bartender who recognizes and takes care of regulars is going to do financially better in the long run


... if their customers are all or mostly 'regulars'.
2013-01-09 05:19:19 PM  
1 votes:
What a farking asshole. Anyone who would do something like this is an asshole in other areas of their life, and they usually get bitten in the ass at some point. I hope Mr. Righteous loses everything and has to take a job where he relies on the kindness of strangers to tip well so he can pay rent that month.
2013-01-09 04:44:18 PM  
1 votes:

Radioactive Ass: Why on earth should anyone ever pay for bad service?


Know how I know you've never worked in a restaurant?

I think tipping is weird. I don't know how eating out ever evolved into a server making their almost exclusively from tips but that's the way it is. You pay full price for virtually every other good or service regardless of the "service". When you get an oil change do you refuse to pay if it takes too long?
The fact is, that everyone has a crummy day at work sometimes. You should still tip 10% even if the service is bad because that's all they make, and that's just what you do. Even if you HATE your server. If they were the worst server ever I still don't think it justifies making them work for you for free.

You and I still get paid if we have a bad day at work, and I assure you, EVERYONE has bad days at work. this doesn't even take into account the things that people don't even consider that are completely out of a server's control like your boss saying "Amanda called in sick, so instead of having a 4 table section, tonight you have 8 tables." "8 tables?! I'll be way too insanely busy." "Well, too bad. Figure it out. Let me know if you want me to comp a dessert or something."

Furthemore, if a server is actually offering poor service on a consistent basis and it's not just a "bad day" then it catches up with them REALLY fast and they won't be serving for long, I assure you.
2013-01-09 04:30:55 PM  
1 votes:
Meh wife and I came into some cash a while ago and we went to a local restaurant and tipped the waitress a c-note on a 40 dollar meal. It wasn't till she came to thank us that we found out she had wrecked her car that night on the way to work. She cried, My wife cried etc etc. I will tell you what though we go to that restaurant and that waitress ensures she takes care of us, we get the same awesome service and she refuses to take over a 20% tip. You really shouldn't be a douche no matter what your politics are. You might just make someones day.
2013-01-09 04:29:34 PM  
1 votes:

DS1970: Tipping became something that was a "reward" for excellent service (which is exactly what a tip should be) to something now where cynically I say, "Why should it be mandated (culturally or otherwise) and I have to donate to this person just to cover The Darden Groups' lousy compensation? (P.S. Darden owns RedLobster, Olive Garden, Longhorn Steakhouse, amongst other restaurant brands).

Seriously one could view a tip as nothing but the restaurant industry bilking customers out of more dollars via their own practice of not paying a living wage. Other means the company screws both employees and customers alike include the recent cut of many entry-level positions to lower hours to LE 28 hours per week, the barrier which dictates whether the business has to give employees health insurance.

Lastly, when is putting X% extra on the tab, due to the company's unwillingness to pay health benefits a "tip" issue? The mandatory X% is certainly not a gratuity! And to imply it is constitutes a black lie.

So do we quit tipping because we're basically propping up a company's screwing of its own workforce? I could see the reduction in employee hours/pay may actually cause a REDUCTION in tipping as customers are "demanded" to "tip" increasingly and simply....rebel. People might get fed up as the "tip culture" gets more onerous on customers...and only pay "mandatory tips"...and the same consumers will then start to choose restaurants with the lowest "mandatory tip". So more businesses may actually go bankrupt by increasing their "tip fees" and chasing customers to churn in buckets.

Just an opinion.


It isn't just the restaurants - it is institutionalized in the difference between "server wage" and "minimum wage."  If you want it changed, write your Congressman or your state officials, and VOTE to change it.  But don't just say "well the restaurants are the assholes" when it is sanctioned by the state and federal government.
2013-01-09 04:02:11 PM  
1 votes:
My "complete idiot's" guide to tipping...

First of all, if you don't want to tip...eat at home or go to a buffet.

Bad service = 10% of the bill - You can find this by moving the decimal point one digit to the left on your bill. For example if your bill is $20.00 and the server sucked (not the kitchen mind you but the server) then tip $2. No, it;s not the servers fault that your steak was cooked incorrectly you miserably stupid idiot so you needn't punish them for it by tipping them poorly.

Average service = 15% of the bill This is standard. Move the decimal one point to the left then add half. $20.00->$2->$3

*Good service = 20% of total bill - Move decimal one to the lft and double that. $20.00->$2.00->$4

*note- this is not the maximum. You may tip as much as you like over this percentage.

One would think that this process would be ridiculously easy for every mature adult to understand. I worked in restaurants for 10 years and it never ceased to amaze me how many people don't understand this. If this system is too difficult for you then you are either a jerk or a moran (sic) and you should stay home.  Now I work in an office and I don't go to lunch with my co-workers because it's embarrassing. They leave shiat tips and balk at my "outrageous" 20% tips.
2013-01-09 03:42:06 PM  
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Is this where I say how that's typical conservative logic? Not enough "discretionary" money to tip, but enough to spend 4 times on food what it would cost you to make at home?
2013-01-09 03:38:49 PM  
1 votes:

meanmutton: ohokyeah: People that go to expensive restaurants and refuse to tip under the guise that it's a hardship for them are deserving of having their food tampered with. If you can't afford to tip at that restaurant, go to a restaurant you could theoretically afford tipping. I suspect it's not that they can't afford to tip so much as they're greedy jerks that refuse to pay someone of a lower caste than they are.

We frequently eat out. It's a family tradition for us to go to restaurant for lunch on Saturdays. We tip 20% as a standard amount, if this number doesn't come out even, we round up to the next dollar. A few cents more is not really a burden for us, and we figure it may make the waitstaff's life easier. Neither of us has ever been a waiter but both of us can empathize with people making such a low minimum wage needing to be tipped appropriately in order to survive. The pay system for waitstaff in the US is bogus. In fact minimum wage should be indexed to inflation instead of changed maybe every ten to fifteen years after much arm turning of "fiscal conservatives" in Congress.

It's a rarity for us to get poor service.

Minimum wage increases unemployment.


The idea that minimum wage increases unemployment is only one viewpoint, and it's only economy theory, not proven. There's evidence to the contrary as well.

"A study of U.S. states showed that businesses' annual and average payrolls grow faster and employment grew at a faster rate in states with a minimum wage." More people becoming consumers lends towards economic growth, not economic contraction. If you pay people more, they're more likely to stick with a job and work harder at it, decreasing training costs for positions and creating a group of people who can consume more goods and services themselves as they're not living hand to mouth anymore.

Henry Ford understood that if you pay your workers well enough, they can buy the products they're manufacturing. More consumers means more potential profit.
2013-01-09 03:38:20 PM  
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RatMaster999: I don't care what your socio-economic standing is, EVERYONE should be required to spend a good 6mo to a year in some sort of service industry. Hell, make it a class to be taken during senior year of high school. Maybe then we might be able to avoid this sort of douchebaggery.


Oh please please please. Then, pay them in imaginary dollars, and require them to forfeit some of it for imagined rent and bills. The class requires them to buy an imaginary car and manage an imaginary credit card. They get to keep all the money they have at the end, but cheapskate purchases carry some sort of risk.

At the mid-term, have them all "go to college." They have to take out a student loan, and also shop around to find out how much tuition actually costs. In the end they have to figure out how to get a 4-year college degree without borrowing anything other than subsidized loans. For the second half of the semester, they have to add a student loan payment to their budget. Like the credit card, they can pay whatever they want but the final liability deducts from their cash---for the student loan, take their average payment, extrapolate to 10 years, and see how much they'd still owe.

This would be like a personal economics class, the kind they used to have before parents complained that it was a waste of time, except you add an actual McJob requirement.
2013-01-09 03:38:00 PM  
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Has no one mentioned yet that he talks about discretionary spending, on a typed piece of paper that cost money to actually make?

Also, at this point every restaurant should just pull the Europe system and append a 15% surcharge onto every meal. Only lame shiatholes don't tip anymore, since it's considered obligatory.
2013-01-09 03:26:09 PM  
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dickfreckle: Typically, people like this eat at casual (affordable) restaurants belittle the staff in order to feel better about themselves. While our friend from TFA didn't have the courage to actually speak to his server (as far as we know), there are plenty who do. Sh*t day at your 28k job? Why, just go belittle someone else to give that thimble dick the extra inch! As a former restaurant employee I've seen it more times than I care to recount. It's the human version of coming home and kicking the dog because you were emasculated by your boss and need to feel some measure of power.


I went to a conference a couple years a go and a group of us who had been getting along decided to go out one night for dinner. There was going to be 10 of us, so we called ahead for a reservation. When we arrived we were seated at a nice quiet table in the upstairs of the restaurant with a lovely view down below. One of the guys immediately jumps on our server about our location and demands to see a manager. When the manager comes over he just can't. stop. biatching. about how bad our location is and how we need a better table. The namager leaves to se what he can do and one of us asks the guy what is wrong with the table.

"Nothing," the guy says, "you just don't ever settle for the first table."

We got a very loud table right next to the kitchen as our upgrade.
2013-01-09 03:22:19 PM  
1 votes:
It takes a pretty well honed set of skills to deal with not kill the general public, especially around food and keep a smile.
FTFM

why yes, I have worked in food service. Why do you ask?
2013-01-09 03:20:09 PM  
1 votes:
My wife ALWAYS has a coupon when we go out to eat. Buy one entree get another of equal or lesser value free, or enjoy 20% off your next bill for example. We make sure to tip on the original cost before coupons apply discounts so that our waiters/waitresses don't get screwed. Because we coupon, we don't frequent anywhere so it's not about keeping semen out of our spinach and artichoke dip. We just enjoy the service.
2013-01-09 03:18:17 PM  
1 votes:
I love all the people in this thread that think committing a felony is a proper response to someone not paying an optional amount of money when eating out.
2013-01-09 03:15:51 PM  
1 votes:

mcreadyblue: PrivateCaboose: mcreadyblue: Radioactive Ass: California doesn't have a separate wage for food servers like most of the other states do ($8.00 an hour). As such the tips really are a gratuity for services rendered and shouldn't be used as a guilt tool to help boost the servers wage up to minimum wage like in most of the other states. The 15-20% rule shouldn't necessarily apply here the same way it does in say New York ($5.00 an hour) or Virginia ($2.13 an hour). If you're not tipping 15-20% of your bill in those states then you should feel bad because you're a bad person, In CA, NV, OR, or WA (all at or above minimum wage)... not so much.

I do tip but for me it really is a matter of service versus reasonable expectations as opposed to feeling like I'm being served by someone on slave wages and feeling guilty if I didn't leave at least 15% knowing that the IRS and the state tax board will still assume that I did and will dock their pay accordingly. I know plenty of waiters and waitresses out here that under report (by far) their tips and really don't pay their "Fair share" of taxes so I can kind of see where the customer is coming from.

That brings the question....why are the Chef's not tipped along with the waitstaff?

Because they aren't making waitserver minimum wage.  They make much more an hour.

Really? I thought Applebee's starts Chef's off at $12/hr?


My waitressing rate was $2.13 an hour.
2013-01-09 03:13:04 PM  
1 votes:

kid_icarus: As an aside...Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out; particularly at a sit-down restaurant that will involve tipping. If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.


Yeah...no. You're employed by the establishment I'm in, not by me. Your employer pays your compensation, not me. A gratuity is a perk for a job well done, not a participation award because you managed to stagger your way into work that day (bravo on joining other responsible adults in that achievement!).

I will gladly tip a server who is polite, prompt, and ensures my experience goes smoothly. I will have no compunction about reducing the tip I leave all the way down to a penny if the service deserves it (I never skip tipping; to skip it doesn't convey why a tip wasn't left. Leaving a penny, preferably with a note, gets the point across).

Now, to go into a restaurant with the intention of not tipping, that's the act of an asshole. So maybe we can find some common ground.
2013-01-09 03:12:50 PM  
1 votes:
People that go to expensive restaurants and refuse to tip under the guise that it's a hardship for them are deserving of having their food tampered with. If you can't afford to tip at that restaurant, go to a restaurant you could theoretically afford tipping. I suspect it's not that they can't afford to tip so much as they're greedy jerks that refuse to pay someone of a lower caste than they are.

We frequently eat out. It's a family tradition for us to go to restaurant for lunch on Saturdays. We tip 20% as a standard amount, if this number doesn't come out even, we round up to the next dollar. A few cents more is not really a burden for us, and we figure it may make the waitstaff's life easier. Neither of us has ever been a waiter but both of us can empathize with people making such a low minimum wage needing to be tipped appropriately in order to survive. The pay system for waitstaff in the US is bogus. In fact minimum wage should be indexed to inflation instead of changed maybe every ten to fifteen years after much arm turning of "fiscal conservatives" in Congress.

It's a rarity for us to get poor service.
2013-01-09 03:12:35 PM  
1 votes:

Great_Milenko: So, am I the only guy here who adds a little extra for some cleavage?


The amount of the tip is proportional to the amount of cleavage.
2013-01-09 03:10:48 PM  
1 votes:

FuryOfFirestorm: [img.gawkerassets.com image 623x624]

Funny how the guy who left that card says he can't afford a tip, yet he still went out to eat anyway. I guess it's also Obama's fault that he's a cheap asshole.

/if you're too cheap to tip
//then make your own damn food at home
///I tip 20%, motherf*ckers


Summed it perfectly sir.

//If you can't tip then you can't afford to go out.
2013-01-09 03:05:48 PM  
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I love the people above who are all "jerk should just cut back on eating out hurr durr", as though a restaurant which suddenly loses 15-20% of it's business -- you know, the amount of a tip when spread across the cumulative purchasing decisions of the local population -- isn't going to fire some staff, or just close. Pushing the hard decisions one level further out doesn't actually make the hard decision go away.

/It would have been funnier if the guy had just started tipping with birth control pills.
2013-01-09 03:04:54 PM  
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Funny how the guy who left that card says he can't afford a tip, yet he still went out to eat anyway. I guess it's also Obama's fault that he's a cheap asshole.

/if you're too cheap to tip
//then make your own damn food at home
///I tip 20%, motherf*ckers
2013-01-09 03:04:34 PM  
1 votes:

kid_icarus: As an aside...Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out; particularly at a sit-down restaurant that will involve tipping. If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.


Meh, its Rove Brand Republican Math (TM). Like you can balance the budget by cutting the enormous budget of Sesame Street because we just can't afford that kind of extravagance, but 20 new warships will make jobs.
2013-01-09 03:01:49 PM  
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A standard tip is 15%, END OF LINE
You "20% should be the new minimum" people seriously need to man up, unionize, what the fark ever and demand an increase in pay.
Or step up your game and farking charm the pants off of some people.

The reason some of you are getting dick for tips is that you farking suck. If you fark up over and over again (or if the kitchen does and you don't take 1 minute to compare the order to the food on the plate?) well fark you, because you didn't earn jack shiat. If I have to call the manager over to take care of an issue that you couldn't help me take care of because you're texting in the back or on another smoke break? You aren't going to get that 15% and the message still won't sink in. You'll call me a lousy tipper, you'll call me a skinflint. You won't even take the time to analyze why you got a poor tip.

Sure there are assholes out there, there are cheapskates, and there are lousy ass servers. Showing up should not guarantee you a tip.

This dude? He's an asshole. The new tax is not the server's problem.

/Left a $15 tip on a $50 bill on Friday, the last time I went out to eat.
//And tip is calculate PRE-TAX fark nuts.
2013-01-09 03:00:44 PM  
1 votes:
If you can't afford both the meal and the tip, go somewhere else for food. It's no excuse to be a douchebag because your guy didn't win the last election.

I hope every server who gets that card remembers him and knows in the future not to waste time providing decent service. Servers are not entitled to tips, but in a country where it is customary, not tipping should only be reserved for extreme cases of poor service. This guy planned not to tip, he deserves everything he gets if he ever dares to show his face there again.
2013-01-09 02:57:02 PM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: Generally, guests are EXTREMELY demanding.


I'm not. In fact I'm pretty easygoing. So much so that I think I make up for other customers' douchiness. What's that worth?

Also I've worked in the service industry for a good number of years myself, and why waiters and waitresses are the special snowflakes of the service industry with regard to "what a tough job it is" perplexes me.

Endive Wombat: It takes a pretty well honed set of skills to deal with the general public, especially around food and keep a smile.


FIFTY

Endive Wombat: What will likely happen if you give a bad tip for no reason other than you disagreeing with the "American Style Tipping System" is that you are going to get mediocre and likely rushed service


I often get mediocre service in spite of generous tipping habits. Is it okay yet for me to tip less?
2013-01-09 02:55:24 PM  
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codergirl42: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

Are you sure that's American currency? 20$ for a coca cola seems a bit steep.


It's in St. Tropez, France. It's probably in Euros, but it's one of those super elite luxury resorts so things are going to be insanely expensive.

It's also in a country that doesn't have a tipping culture.
2013-01-09 02:54:49 PM  
1 votes:
I'm sorry customer, because of this jackarse (insert card here) we have to impose a built in 15% gratuity to your bill. If you choose to give your server any more gratuity is solely your decision. I wish this didn't have to be the way for both of us.
2013-01-09 02:50:42 PM  
1 votes:
I'm unemplo a creative consultant and I still tip if I go out to dinner. I can't afford a tip I can't afford to go out to eat.
2013-01-09 02:50:26 PM  
1 votes:

kid_icarus: As an aside...Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out; particularly at a sit-down restaurant that will involve tipping. If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.


Note that it says "discretionary spending and gratuities," so he acknowledges it is not a discretionary cost. He also acknowledges that Obama is insisting he "pay his fair share" of taxes, which means he's in the top income bracket and is, therefore, totally full of shiat.
2013-01-09 02:49:57 PM  
1 votes:
Isn't there an inverse Yelp or something so that businesses can see who are the deadbeats and PITA customers? If he paid by credit card, they would know his name and put his name on a black list on OpenTable or somewheres.

Good luck going out for dinner anywhere in your neighborhood for, like, ever.
2013-01-09 02:48:50 PM  
1 votes:
The restaurant should just refuse him service next time. Times are tight, and he obviously needs to save a few bucks. A little bit of tough love might be in order.
2013-01-09 02:47:26 PM  
1 votes:

RatMaster999: I don't care what your socio-economic standing is, EVERYONE should be required to spend a good 6mo to a year in some sort of service industry. Hell, make it a class to be taken during senior year of high school. Maybe then we might be able to avoid this sort of douchebaggery.


This.

The people who've never spent time in a real service job can be spotted from a mile away. That's the REAL "Entitlement Class".
2013-01-09 02:47:20 PM  
1 votes:
That dumbass should probably not return for another meal, or risk spit and other foreign matter in his food.

Tip your servers. They will reward you with better service and no spit.

I always tip well at the places we frequent, and servers remember that.
2013-01-09 02:46:52 PM  
1 votes:
over 25 years in hospitality I've come to realize that there's a fair amount of jerks in this world.  I have a relative that would drink all night and leave nothing, for anyone.  I've had guys come in and have two drinks and leave a ten spot.  If you aren't going to tip that's fine just get off the barstool and let someone that isn't a jerk sit down.
I've dragged four luggage carts to the room at 3am and done everything else too, turndown, a/c on tv check that stuff and walked out with $0.  I've also been given a $20 for making a reservation.
I evens out.  If everyone was a full tip, it'd be a career to kill someone for.
2013-01-09 02:46:04 PM  
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.


I liked the condescension at the top, the rest was bit too heavy handed. A good effort, but this topic has seen so many miles, you need a really fresh approach.
2013-01-09 02:43:33 PM  
1 votes:
Just to make the math easier, I generally take %10, double it for %20, and estimate where the nearest dollar is to that. May be more than %20 or may be less than, but figuring the tip isn't worth the time to figure or pull out the phone to calculate.

Oh and obligatory
2013-01-09 02:41:34 PM  
1 votes:

chevydeuce: Douche move, no doubt, but I still laughed....that took some time, thought and chutzpah, so I'll give him a giggle....


It looks like it took Microsoft Word.

And honestly, chutzpah? Leaving someone a nasty note so you can scram before they see it? That's the opposite of chutzpah.
2013-01-09 02:41:19 PM  
1 votes:

LeroyBourne: If this is real, this guy has to seriously understand that he can never go back, someone will recognize him and they will fark with him.


I'm imagining a TV show where people intentionally do stuff like this with tips, and plant hidden cameras to try to catch people messing with the food when the customer returns. At the end of the show they haul the person that messed with the food off to jail and everyone laughs about it over drinks.

I'd watch this show.
2013-01-09 02:41:15 PM  
1 votes:

pute kisses like a man: meat0918: PrivateCaboose: Cybernetic: If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal. Go to a damned drive thru instead.

Serious question - how much do you tip when you do an online order for takeout from a place like Nando's?

Delivery or pick up?

If it is delivered, I give a nice tip. Pickup on the other hand, I don't think I've ever tipped, unless there is a tip jar and I have change.

Here's a followup: Do you tip at buffets?

i tip on pick-up. but, it's usually closer to 10%. the waiter still had to plate the meal, pack it up, and do other stuff.

on buffets? depends, was there any table service? if yes, i think a tip between 10-20% is appropriate, depending on the level of service. if no table service, and you bus your own table, no tip is necessary, unless it's a mom and pop place and it was really good and you feel like being nice.


I had to ask this question about a B&B - tipping outside of the restaurant realm is more difficult for me.  I never know when it's appropriate.  I think the basic rules someone told me were that if it is a B&B, the amount you're paying goes directly to the owners and you leave a small tip for the maid, like in a hotel.  I honestly didn't know that you were supposed to tip hotel maids until about a year ago.  I need like a cheat sheet of whom to tip.  But then I went to tip our apartment concierges and was told they don't accept tips.  ARGH! CONFUSING!
2013-01-09 02:39:32 PM  
1 votes:

codergirl42: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

Are you sure that's American currency? 20$ for a coca cola seems a bit steep.


Worse, it's Euros, although none of that stuff is actually on this menu.

http://www.nikkibeach.com/sttropez/menu.php
2013-01-09 02:37:58 PM  
1 votes:
If this is real, this guy has to seriously understand that he can never go back, someone will recognize him and they will fark with him.
kab
2013-01-09 02:36:49 PM  
1 votes:
fake
2013-01-09 02:36:20 PM  
1 votes:
Tipping is the little bit extra you have to pay to eat like the nobility used to.

You don't want to tip? Cook and serve your own damn food.
2013-01-09 02:35:51 PM  
1 votes:

Flakeloaf: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Canadians don't tip well at all.

Fark you too, I guess. Better would be "lots of people don't tend to tip well when they're not both from a place that tends to tip AND happen to be in that place".


Um, I'm pretty sure he didn't actually mean people from Canada.
2013-01-09 02:35:48 PM  
1 votes:

Flakeloaf: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Canadians don't tip well at all.

Fark you too, I guess. Better would be "lots of people don't tend to tip well when they're not both from a place that tends to tip AND happen to be in that place".


Umm..he's not talking about ACTUAL Canadians.
2013-01-09 02:35:21 PM  
1 votes:
My minimum tip is $3, even in the small restaurants where I eat breakfast for $7 - $11.
In larger restaurants I tip 15-20% rounded-up. For great - proactive - service I sometimes go to %30.
2013-01-09 02:35:16 PM  
1 votes:
I once had a waiter tell me that the reason that the tipping percent has gone up over the years (10%, 12.5%, 15%, 18%, 20% etc.) is because of inflation. He said that since people were paying more for their food they should be paying a bigger tip. He really thought that if inflation, for example, went up 10% then his tip percentage needed to go up in well, else he would be making less money. I just looked at him in complete awe, wondering if his two brain cells ever actually spoke to each other!
2013-01-09 02:34:00 PM  
1 votes:

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Canadians don't tip well at all.


Wait, Canadians from Canada or "restaurant Canadians"?
2013-01-09 02:31:59 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Subtext: "I am a coward and a failure at everything I've ever tried. I have elaborate revenge fantasies about the abuse I take at my menial job from superiors and co-workers alike. My wife utterly controls my life and does not allow me to control any aspect of my life. My children mock and belittle me. This note is my sad and desperate attempt to pretend I am something within a time zone of being a man, even if just for a few seconds. Even though you are a service worker and most likely a disinterested teenager I would never have the courage to say something like this to your face, lest I break down into tears and be forced to trudge to my 1994 Chevy Lumina with Dockers beshat."


I never, ever want to piss you off. Holy shiat that is both brilliant and breathtakingly cold.
2013-01-09 02:28:01 PM  
1 votes:
I've only ONCE walked out on a meal with no tip after telling the manager I wasn't paying. She agreed when she witnessed the waiter talking football and seeing to his tables.
2013-01-09 02:27:57 PM  
1 votes:

LineNoise: I've worked in food service before, and farking with someones food like that was a great way to get fired, and wouldn't be tolerated by anyone, be it management or fellow staff. Sure, being a jerk customer would make it take a little longer for your food to get to you, or it would be cold, or part of it would be intentionally screwed up, but actually farking with someones food was a line you didn't cross for any reason. MAYBE if you were notoriously bad and something fell on the floor it wouldn't get thrown out when it normally would have, but that was about as far as it went.


Yep - it's a good way to get an FDA violation, at least where I worked.  Cleanliness was top priority.
2013-01-09 02:21:31 PM  
1 votes:
He won't tip his server because he cannot afford it, but can afford to go out to eat.


I give this guy a World Class Troll Award.
2013-01-09 02:21:05 PM  
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.

Here is the thing.  Acceptable tips range from 15%-20% here in the US.  20% is really the new norm.  If you step back and think about it, simply adding 20% to all prices is not how it is going to work.  (I have no links for this, but if you search you can find it, economists have studies this)...in reality, your meal would actually be somewhere closer to 40% higher because of payroll taxes, social security, all kinds of stuff.

Here is the other thing.  Yes, in very simple restaurants, it is a easy as bringing a soda and food to a table.  But that is the exception to the rule.

Generally, guests are EXTREMELY demanding.  Let me ask you something - has your waiter ever come back to your table, and ask how everything is and if he can get you something and you say "everything is great, I am all set..."  Then not even 30 seconds later, you ask for an additional side of ranch?  The waiter gets your ranch and then you ask for a side of ketchup...that in the industry is what is known as "running you around" (you being the waiter).  Common courtesy would dictate that you would have asked for your ranch and ketchup the very first time.  Now, why am I going through this?  Because as a waiter, you develop and adapt to your tables as best as you can, you have a rhythm that you keep, and when someone piece meals their requests it gets VERY frustrating and it actually effects the service of other tables.  Ever been sitting there wondering why your Coke is taking so damn long to get to your table?  It is likely because of another guest/table, not a bad waiter ...


Most of the time, yes.  Some of the time, the waiter/waitress is just a lazy fark up.  I waited tables for a couple of years - I have a lot of respect for people who wait on me in restaurants.  But if the restaurant is empty and you're not capable of refilling my soda because you're too busy texting someone on your phone (and I have gone entire meals without being able to get a refill), you're not going to get a good tip.  If you are slammed with a ton of customers and you are pleasant, even if you are somewhat harried, you will get a very good tip.
2013-01-09 02:19:58 PM  
1 votes:
Best comment after the article:

I had to euthanize my wife because of the increased costs of Obamacare. I own a business that would likely have seen a huge increase in insurance costs. These costs would have had to be passed on to the customer. What customer is going to pay 3 cents more for a product? Someone that values the health and well being of a fellow citizen? Yeah right. So I put my wife down. With the savings from that, I will likely be able to keep prices down. If not, I might sell my Porsche.
2013-01-09 02:16:23 PM  
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2013-01-09 12:35:55 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-01-09 12:28:17 PM  
1 votes:

Trivia Jockey: Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.

0/10


Give it few hours.
2013-01-09 12:24:58 PM  
1 votes:

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Subtext: "I am a coward and a failure at everything I've ever tried. I have elaborate revenge fantasies about the abuse I take at my menial job from superiors and co-workers alike. My wife utterly controls my life and does not allow me to control any aspect of my life. My children mock and belittle me. This note is my sad and desperate attempt to pretend I am something within a time zone of being a man, even if just for a few seconds. Even though you are a service worker and most likely a disinterested teenager I would never have the courage to say something like this to your face, lest I break down into tears and be forced to trudge to my 1994 Chevy Lumina with Dockers beshat."


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2013-01-09 11:56:56 AM  
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: tricycleracer: If you're that worried, you cheap piece of shiat, you shouldn't be spending money at a restaurant.

They're not going to change their lifestyle. They're only going to change yours.


After all, since that waiter/ess is JUST a waiter/ess they are obviously a libby-lib expecting handouts and he's just doing his God-given right at punishing them.
2013-01-09 11:55:59 AM  
1 votes:
"I can't engage in any real political debate so I leave petty smarmy political messages, and the added benefit is that I don't have to directly confront anyone and back up my positions."

"Oh, that's nice for you. How about extra snot in that soup?"
2013-01-09 11:02:17 AM  
1 votes:

sigdiamond2000: kid_icarus: If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

/unless you like your steak served to you after being rubbed on the bathroom floor and seasoned with pubes


I sometimes wonder if people who pull sh*t like this realize the amount of saliva, snot, and semen they've unwittingly ingested in their lives.


They don't.  I have a friend (more my wife's friend actually) and an in-law I refuse to eat out with because they *always* biatch about something at the restaurant.  I've tried to tell them (and others who act this way) that they need to be polite to the waiter/waitress because 1) you don't really need to act like a douche all the time and 2) they will fark with your food.  The response is always, "they better not mess with my food!"  Stupid.
2013-01-09 11:00:00 AM  
1 votes:
How to tip properly, and be an awesome human being in the process (even if you do eat at Applebee's):

mankindunplugged.com

How to be a partisan miserly pathetic piece of shiat (regardless of where you're eating):

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2013-01-09 10:17:54 AM  
1 votes:
I hope someone gets his picture out to every restaurant in his city.
2013-01-09 10:11:38 AM  
1 votes:

kid_icarus: If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

/unless you like your steak served to you after being rubbed on the bathroom floor and seasoned with pubes


This, a thousand times. I've waited tables, worked in coffee shops, been a bartender. Leave a crappy tip, I will fark with your food, or have someone more disgusting than me do it so I don't have to.

/talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce, he complimented the owner after his meal on the new recipe they were using.
//ew.
2013-01-09 09:56:50 AM  
1 votes:

sigdiamond2000: I sometimes wonder if people who pull sh*t like this realize the amount of saliva, snot, and semen they've unwittingly ingested in their lives.


Some people pay extra for that.
2013-01-09 09:25:13 AM  
1 votes:
This ones better.

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