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2013-01-09 03:31:14 PM

BSABSVR: I went to a conference a couple years a go and a group of us who had been getting along decided to go out one night for dinner. There was going to be 10 of us, so we called ahead for a reservation. When we arrived we were seated at a nice quiet table in the upstairs of the restaurant with a lovely view down below. One of the guys immediately jumps on our server about our location and demands to see a manager. When the manager comes over he just can't. stop. biatching. about how bad our location is and how we need a better table. The namager leaves to se what he can do and one of us asks the guy what is wrong with the table.

"Nothing," the guy says, "you just don't ever settle for the first table."

We got a very loud table right next to the kitchen as our upgrade.


I would have called the guy a classless douchebag to his face. I really have no patience for people like that.
 
2013-01-09 03:34:35 PM

PrivateCaboose: In DC, most beers are $6 or $7 (yes, yes, I know, it's crazy).


SW CT is about the same if not more. Kind of farking ridiculous. Cost of beer is a reason I miss back woods bars.
 
2013-01-09 03:34:37 PM

thecpt: Lollipop165: From what I understand, minimum wage for a bartender is actually LOWER than minimun wage for a fast food worker because of tips. So, you tip the bartender.

When paying cash, is a dollar every beer fair? Like seriously, they fill my beer for about 12 seconds and i'm not seeking advice or anything.

bartenders often carry attitude and I have no clue why. I carry money and I'm not a cute girl so I already paid the cover. I get tight with tips in those situations.

/I tip regularly everywhere else


My rule is a dollar per beer unless the beers start going over $5, in which case revert to normal percentages. But if the beers are that pricey most of the time I run a tab. Easier to do the math once.
 
2013-01-09 03:34:37 PM

incendi: HoratioGates: The really dick part is he left it after eating there. If you want to debate politics, at least have the balls to be upfront about it.

No, the really dick part is where he went out to eat with a deliberate plan of not tipping regardless of the quality of service and to leave a note saying, "No, this was not an oversight, I actually am as much of an asshole as it seems."


No, the REALLY dick part is the part where he took the extra time and effort to print up this little card. And you just know he didn't print just one. This guy (why do I feel like we're all safe assuming it is a he?) is just going around town handing these out.
 
2013-01-09 03:36:02 PM

PrivateCaboose: My waitressing rate was $2.13 an hour.


Which is the federal minimum wage for tipped workers. Not all states adhere to that standard and some are more than triple that wage (at least one is more than quadruple that wage). That's not to say that you shouldn't tip a server in the states that mandate a higher pay rate but one does need to be aware that the tipping rules shouldn't be the same in California as they are in Virginia.
 
2013-01-09 03:36:24 PM

Carn: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

$10 for a coke?! Did it come in an aquarium?


In Rome near the pantheon you will pay just shy of 10 bucks for a can of coke.
 
2013-01-09 03:37:11 PM

freeforever: TIME TO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRITES:

WHO DO YOU TIP?

A) The McDonald's/Wendy's server who makes your frappucino, elaborate "artisan" inspired creation and sides that involve multiple toppings, time and effort

B) The cute bartender who pops the beer top and hands you a bottle in under five seconds

C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.


McDonald's workers aren't allowed to accept tips, and if they are caught doing so anyway it's grounds for termination. Or at least that was the case when I worked there in the late 90's.
 
2013-01-09 03:37:24 PM
Tipping a percentage seems a shoddy way of paying a service tax. If I order a big ole expensive steak and a couple beers, it's the same amount of work to bring it to me as if ordered a sandwich and a couple beers. Why should the waitress get a bigger cut just because the steak costs more? It really should be commensurate with work done, not as a percentage of what I can afford to spend. Now a shiatton of rounds off drinks at a bar, sure, a percentage works, cause it's constant back and forthing for the barmaid plus anticipatory drink bringing.
 
2013-01-09 03:38:00 PM
Has no one mentioned yet that he talks about discretionary spending, on a typed piece of paper that cost money to actually make?

Also, at this point every restaurant should just pull the Europe system and append a 15% surcharge onto every meal. Only lame shiatholes don't tip anymore, since it's considered obligatory.
 
2013-01-09 03:38:07 PM

rossocaere: Tipping is not required nor expected in Rome, Italy, and service is shiat. Tipping 10-15% is customary but not required in London, England,and service is generally very good. So you don't need to get to American levels of tipping ridiculousness to ensure good service.


True, but in London, servers don't make $2.13 an hour.
 
2013-01-09 03:38:20 PM

RatMaster999: I don't care what your socio-economic standing is, EVERYONE should be required to spend a good 6mo to a year in some sort of service industry. Hell, make it a class to be taken during senior year of high school. Maybe then we might be able to avoid this sort of douchebaggery.


Oh please please please. Then, pay them in imaginary dollars, and require them to forfeit some of it for imagined rent and bills. The class requires them to buy an imaginary car and manage an imaginary credit card. They get to keep all the money they have at the end, but cheapskate purchases carry some sort of risk.

At the mid-term, have them all "go to college." They have to take out a student loan, and also shop around to find out how much tuition actually costs. In the end they have to figure out how to get a 4-year college degree without borrowing anything other than subsidized loans. For the second half of the semester, they have to add a student loan payment to their budget. Like the credit card, they can pay whatever they want but the final liability deducts from their cash---for the student loan, take their average payment, extrapolate to 10 years, and see how much they'd still owe.

This would be like a personal economics class, the kind they used to have before parents complained that it was a waste of time, except you add an actual McJob requirement.
 
2013-01-09 03:38:49 PM

meanmutton: ohokyeah: People that go to expensive restaurants and refuse to tip under the guise that it's a hardship for them are deserving of having their food tampered with. If you can't afford to tip at that restaurant, go to a restaurant you could theoretically afford tipping. I suspect it's not that they can't afford to tip so much as they're greedy jerks that refuse to pay someone of a lower caste than they are.

We frequently eat out. It's a family tradition for us to go to restaurant for lunch on Saturdays. We tip 20% as a standard amount, if this number doesn't come out even, we round up to the next dollar. A few cents more is not really a burden for us, and we figure it may make the waitstaff's life easier. Neither of us has ever been a waiter but both of us can empathize with people making such a low minimum wage needing to be tipped appropriately in order to survive. The pay system for waitstaff in the US is bogus. In fact minimum wage should be indexed to inflation instead of changed maybe every ten to fifteen years after much arm turning of "fiscal conservatives" in Congress.

It's a rarity for us to get poor service.

Minimum wage increases unemployment.


The idea that minimum wage increases unemployment is only one viewpoint, and it's only economy theory, not proven. There's evidence to the contrary as well.

"A study of U.S. states showed that businesses' annual and average payrolls grow faster and employment grew at a faster rate in states with a minimum wage." More people becoming consumers lends towards economic growth, not economic contraction. If you pay people more, they're more likely to stick with a job and work harder at it, decreasing training costs for positions and creating a group of people who can consume more goods and services themselves as they're not living hand to mouth anymore.

Henry Ford understood that if you pay your workers well enough, they can buy the products they're manufacturing. More consumers means more potential profit.
 
2013-01-09 03:39:21 PM

PrivateCaboose: thecpt: Lollipop165: From what I understand, minimum wage for a bartender is actually LOWER than minimun wage for a fast food worker because of tips. So, you tip the bartender.

When paying cash, is a dollar every beer fair? Like seriously, they fill my beer for about 12 seconds and i'm not seeking advice or anything.

bartenders often carry attitude and I have no clue why. I carry money and I'm not a cute girl so I already paid the cover. I get tight with tips in those situations.

/I tip regularly everywhere else

A dollar a drink is the reasonable norm.  For me, it depends on whether I have cash or open a tab.  In DC, most beers are $6 or $7 (yes, yes, I know, it's crazy).  If I pay cash, it's a buck a beer.  If I open a tab, it's 20% on the total unless the bartender was an asshole who ignored me (happens from time to time).  It's just more convenient to leave a dollar than to fiddle with coins.  If a drink ends up costing $6.50 or something, I leave a dollar and the change.


But if you are paying that much for a beer, you hope it's a place like RFD where you can get something nice and not 930 club where it's now like $7 for a Yuengling.
 
2013-01-09 03:40:14 PM
What does any of this have to do with pics of hot lesbian waitresses?
 
2013-01-09 03:40:41 PM

SkunkWerks: Sounds like an excellent time for the phrase "we're not with him".


I was laughing the whole time, not that anyone could hear me. Because of his production, he had to pretend (or maybe he honestly thought) that we got some royal treatment that night. Th enext time a group of us went out at that conference he and his co worker were not invited.
 
2013-01-09 03:41:33 PM

brap: My grandfather used to ask waitresses "would you like a dollar or a ring for your tip" and the waitress would say "a ring".  He would make an oragami ring out of a dollar and leave it on the table.

This is apparently HILARIOUS to a farmer.  To a waitress, not so much.


It would farking funny and charming with a much larger denomination.
 
2013-01-09 03:42:06 PM
Is this where I say how that's typical conservative logic? Not enough "discretionary" money to tip, but enough to spend 4 times on food what it would cost you to make at home?
 
2013-01-09 03:43:22 PM

ThurmanMerman: Why is it those "disgruntled food worker does something disgusting to obnoxious customer's food" stories always end with some variation of "And the customer said it was the best he'd ever eaten"?


Because cum is f*cking delicious.
 
2013-01-09 03:43:57 PM

efgeise: Has no one mentioned yet that he talks about discretionary spending, on a typed piece of paper that cost money to actually make?


It's cool, I'm using my office supplies.
 
2013-01-09 03:44:16 PM
Also, it would be nice if we paid people wages they can live on, and just charged what we wanted tor items.

Tips SHOULDN'T be obligatory. They obviously are in our culture however and you're a douchebag if you don't follow the cultural mores and norms for the country you live in.
 
2013-01-09 03:44:25 PM

PrivateCaboose:

I miss having a regular bar.


*sigh* Me too. My former 'regular' bar changed hands and is now a college kid hangout. Not that there's anything wrong with college kids, just a 50 year old woman does not belong at the end of a college bar.

I'm not interested in being a cougar, or anything else. I just miss having a nice neighborhood bar I can stop in and have a cold one or three and maybe a burger.
 
2013-01-09 03:47:56 PM

Lollipop165: I would have called the guy a classless douchebag to his face. I really have no patience for people like that.


I was the Jr. member of my then company there, and the guy was old enough that it was unlikely he would change his ways. Besides the eyerolling and the disinviting that resulted from this guys douchery, we made up for it in tips and discreet apologies to the floor manager.
 
2013-01-09 03:48:25 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Canadians don't tip well at all.


This is always overstated.  The truth is that Americans tip slightly better than Canadians on average.  Studies support this (British and Japanese tourists are also very good).  Canadian waitresses get a slightly higher base salary than American servers.  Also, the type tourists you get travelling to Florida/Orlando are not typical of the majority of Canadian travelers and they skew the stats unfairly (make us look bad).

/generous Canadian tipper
 
2013-01-09 03:48:46 PM

Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.


You are joking right? Or do you really believe this BS?
 
2013-01-09 03:50:09 PM
Isn't this the part when someone internet detective pulls his personal info and outs the prick for his friends and neighbors? Despite mild moral misgivings (in situations when the internet viciously turns on someone for something that's just being an "everyday dick" that happens all the time, just because some newspaper decided to run with it), I usually enjoy that part for smug assholes like this, especially when they pull some politics BS to some highschooler who just wants some pocket money..
 
2013-01-09 03:51:44 PM
I always tip well - I have friends who are in food service, and I myself would one day like to own an eatery. I average around 20-25%, unless it's something like a diner where I can sit there with a 1.05 bottomless cup of coffee for hours, in which case i'll usually tip anywhere from 300-1000% depending on how often I see the bottom of my cup and how long we hang out. If we take up a table, the least we can do is make up for the tips the waitress isn't getting. Doesn't matter if the place is busy or not.
 
2013-01-09 03:54:14 PM

mrshowrules: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Canadians don't tip well at all.

This is always overstated.  The truth is that Americans tip slightly better than Canadians on average.  Studies support this (British and Japanese tourists are also very good).  Canadian waitresses get a slightly higher base salary than American servers.  Also, the type tourists you get travelling to Florida/Orlando are not typical of the majority of Canadian travelers and they skew the stats unfairly (make us look bad).

/generous Canadian tipper


Where do the majority of Canadian travelers visit, when they come down to the States? Not including border areas. I would imagine the left coast and NYC.
 
2013-01-09 03:54:28 PM
Sales tax is 8.75% here, so what I normally do is double the tax, then round up to the next dollar (Because I like to see nice round numbers on my credit card statement)

Went to dinner with a very large group on Saturday, and the restaurant imposed an 18% tip by default. Still did my normal tipping on top of that because frankly, they put up with nearly 20 people, got our orders in a timely fashion, and kept up with drinks and such the whole time.

If you're going to go out to eat, don't be a cheap ass about it.
 
2013-01-09 03:55:01 PM

Kazrath: Carn: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

$10 for a coke?! Did it come in an aquarium?

In Rome near the pantheon you will pay just shy of 10 bucks for a can of coke.


If I'm paying more than a couple bucks for a beverage it better have alcohol in it.
 
2013-01-09 03:55:21 PM
*sigh, this again*

Ok, once again... you do NOT make $2.13/hour. If you don't get enough tips to bump you up to minimum wage, your employer has to compensate you. This is the law in ALL states. If you have been paid less than $2.13/hour, then you got screwed and didn't know your rights, which is probably why you're a waiter/waitress to begin with.

If I do badly at my job, I get fired. In fact, every job in the world works this way, except for waitstaff. Just pay waiters like you do every other single employee in the restaurant. If they do a bad job they are fired. Why in the fark should this be different for waitstaff?
 
2013-01-09 03:55:37 PM

meat0918: Lando Lincoln: litespeed74: I'd like to tip every day but at some point even they would think its weird I tip EVERY TIME.

I'm 100% sure that they do not have a problem with it.

As a former barista, no, they do not have a problem with it.

Even with a tip jar, we were lucky to get tips at all.


Pay with cash, change goes in jar. It's not that farking hard. I do this when I pick up my red eye every morning, and the barristas know me by name, and usually have my redeye waiting for me as soon as they see me coming. Good service begets tipping begets better service.
 
2013-01-09 03:55:54 PM
Speaking of tipping, have you seen the latest Tom the Dancing Bug cartoon?

Joe Biden is an awesome tipper.

Look here:  Tom

Is Tom the Dancing Bug the same person as Tom Toles or Tom Tomorrow? I get those guys confused quite a lot.
 
2013-01-09 03:56:11 PM

sigdiamond2000: kid_icarus: If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

/unless you like your steak served to you after being rubbed on the bathroom floor and seasoned with pubes


I sometimes wonder if people who pull sh*t like this realize the amount of saliva, snot, and semen they've unwittingly ingested in their lives.


Seeing as how the tip comes after the meal, if there was shiat in my food, then I was right to not tip you.
 
2013-01-09 03:56:37 PM

whistleridge: freeforever: TIME TO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRITES:

WHO DO YOU TIP?

A) The McDonald's/Wendy's server who makes your frappucino, elaborate "artisan" inspired creation and sides that involve multiple toppings, time and effort

B) The cute bartender who pops the beer top and hands you a bottle in under five seconds

C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.

McDonald's workers aren't allowed to accept tips, and if they are caught doing so anyway it's grounds for termination. Or at least that was the case when I worked there in the late 90's.




You are aware that one of those two also makes at least min wage, while the other may not right?
 
2013-01-09 03:57:16 PM

stonicus: *sigh, this again*

Ok, once again... you do NOT make $2.13/hour. If you don't get enough tips to bump you up to minimum wage, your employer has to compensate you. This is the law in ALL states. If you have been paid less than $2.13/hour, then you got screwed and didn't know your rights, which is probably why you're a waiter/waitress to begin with.

If I do badly at my job, I get fired. In fact, every job in the world works this way, except for waitstaff. Just pay waiters like you do every other single employee in the restaurant. If they do a bad job they are fired. Why in the fark should this be different for waitstaff?


Right, because a waitress only making 2.13/hr can afford to take them to court. Makes sense to me.
 
2013-01-09 03:57:34 PM

JFarker131: kid_icarus: If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

/unless you like your steak served to you after being rubbed on the bathroom floor and seasoned with pubes

This, a thousand times. I've waited tables, worked in coffee shops, been a bartender. Leave a crappy tip, I will fark with your food, or have someone more disgusting than me do it so I don't have to.

/talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce, he complimented the owner after his meal on the new recipe they were using.
//ew.


Posting this and your user name on Facebook. You deserve to be arrested you sick fark.
 
2013-01-09 04:00:23 PM

Raharu: whistleridge: freeforever: TIME TO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRITES:

WHO DO YOU TIP?

A) The McDonald's/Wendy's server who makes your frappucino, elaborate "artisan" inspired creation and sides that involve multiple toppings, time and effort

B) The cute bartender who pops the beer top and hands you a bottle in under five seconds

C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.

McDonald's workers aren't allowed to accept tips, and if they are caught doing so anyway it's grounds for termination. Or at least that was the case when I worked there in the late 90's.

You are aware that one of those two also makes at least min wage, while the other may not right?


A call to your states Attorney's General office is free.
 
2013-01-09 04:01:25 PM

dickfreckle: While on the subject of payment, why is that men are more than happy to buy dinner (you'll buy it next week, Jim will get it the following week, etc) but women shriek when an iced tea was accidentally placed on their check, which was split 7 ways and you had to ignore all your other tables to it? I understand this is not a 100% accurate depiction, but it's definitely the norm.


i don't know. with some of my friends, we have many year long running unwritten tallies of who owes what to whom. like, he bought all my beers, but then i beat him at poker (we didn't put cash on the table), then that darts bet, then you came to visit over the weekend and paid for our dinner, and i paid for some drinks, you gave me a ride to the airport, i helped you move, and etc etc etc, such that it is almost always known precisely who is paying for what and when were are paying for ourselves. the last thing i ever worry about with friends is who is going to pay, because it always washes out in time.

the womenfolk on the other hand, tend to be much more inclined to split tabs and make an issue to make sure all's fair. perhaps women have a more quantitative notion of fair play, while men have a more qualitative notion of fair play. or something about complex bartering and accounting centers in the brain. who knows, but I've noticed a similar correlation.

though, not so much when it's mixed parties, more so when it's just the womenfolk going out on their own.

come to think of it, i think i have the correlation all wrong. men usually only hang out with their friends, or with people where the hierarchy is clearly defined (boss/employee, father/son, etc). women regularly hang out with people who claim to be their friends but seem to spend more time treating each other like shiat. i would probably be careful with money too, if i didn't like half the people i hung out with.

/ probably came off as sexist, but why do so many women spend so much time with other women that they don't seem to like very much?
 
2013-01-09 04:02:11 PM
My "complete idiot's" guide to tipping...

First of all, if you don't want to tip...eat at home or go to a buffet.

Bad service = 10% of the bill - You can find this by moving the decimal point one digit to the left on your bill. For example if your bill is $20.00 and the server sucked (not the kitchen mind you but the server) then tip $2. No, it;s not the servers fault that your steak was cooked incorrectly you miserably stupid idiot so you needn't punish them for it by tipping them poorly.

Average service = 15% of the bill This is standard. Move the decimal one point to the left then add half. $20.00->$2->$3

*Good service = 20% of total bill - Move decimal one to the lft and double that. $20.00->$2.00->$4

*note- this is not the maximum. You may tip as much as you like over this percentage.

One would think that this process would be ridiculously easy for every mature adult to understand. I worked in restaurants for 10 years and it never ceased to amaze me how many people don't understand this. If this system is too difficult for you then you are either a jerk or a moran (sic) and you should stay home.  Now I work in an office and I don't go to lunch with my co-workers because it's embarrassing. They leave shiat tips and balk at my "outrageous" 20% tips.
 
2013-01-09 04:02:12 PM

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: ThurmanMerman: Why is it those "disgruntled food worker does something disgusting to obnoxious customer's food" stories always end with some variation of "And the customer said it was the best he'd ever eaten"?

Because cum is f*cking delicious.


Right? Normally, I have to pay extra for that.
 
2013-01-09 04:04:04 PM

Carn: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

$10 for a coke?! Did it come in an aquarium?


No, it comes on a stippers ass like coke normaly does.
An aquarium of coke (known as a 'Belushi Special') is really only avaliable on major holidays, as it rather expensive to prepare and keep in stock.
 
2013-01-09 04:04:22 PM

Carn: But if you are paying that much for a beer, you hope it's a place like RFD where you can get something nice and not 930 club where it's now like $7 for a Yuengling.


Yeah it depends on where you go.  I don't go out too much anymore (no time with school and trying to save all my moneys), but when I do, it's usually for a rugby match at Fado - $6 gets me a Smithwick's.  I am ok with that.
 
2013-01-09 04:05:57 PM

DeltaPunch: That's the type of thing I'd do as a 13-year old skateboard-toting stoner who wanted a milkshake from Friendly's but only had the exact change in his pocket, so hey, why not "fight the system" while you're at it and have a laugh?

That anyone over the age of 13 and not stoned off their ass would do this intentionally is mind boggling.

/also, I've never done anything like that
//worst case was ordering only waters and getting a bill for $0.00
///we still left a tip


Yes well we don't call them 1%ers for nothing.
 
2013-01-09 04:06:19 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Canadians don't tip well at all.


That's not fair. We're just 25 years behind you on the curve.

The Great Gatsby Curve.

Zing! Zoom! Right over your head!
 
2013-01-09 04:06:45 PM

stonicus:
If I do badly at my job, I get fired. In fact, every job in the world works this way, except for waitstaff.


I hosted for a while at a super fancy French restaurant in high school, and I was present for a number of awkward firings when wait staff and busboys weren't cutting it. Not every restaurant works like [whatever restaurants you go to with shiatty staff that don't get fired for doing a bad job]
 
2013-01-09 04:06:45 PM

stonicus: Raharu: whistleridge: freeforever: TIME TO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRITES:

WHO DO YOU TIP?

A) The McDonald's/Wendy's server who makes your frappucino, elaborate "artisan" inspired creation and sides that involve multiple toppings, time and effort

B) The cute bartender who pops the beer top and hands you a bottle in under five seconds

C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.

McDonald's workers aren't allowed to accept tips, and if they are caught doing so anyway it's grounds for termination. Or at least that was the case when I worked there in the late 90's.

You are aware that one of those two also makes at least min wage, while the other may not right?

A call to your states Attorney's General office is free.


At BK I was tipped once and told not pocket it at the register, since it would appear I was stealing from the register.

It wasn't that we were not allowed to accept them by official rules, it was just that they'd had a problem in the past with someone stealing from the till and claiming it was a tip
 
2013-01-09 04:07:08 PM

scubamage: meat0918: Lando Lincoln: litespeed74: I'd like to tip every day but at some point even they would think its weird I tip EVERY TIME.

I'm 100% sure that they do not have a problem with it.

As a former barista, no, they do not have a problem with it.

Even with a tip jar, we were lucky to get tips at all.

Pay with cash, change goes in jar. It's not that farking hard. I do this when I pick up my red eye every morning, and the barristas know me by name, and usually have my redeye waiting for me as soon as they see me coming. Good service begets tipping begets better service.


I don't carry cash on me, and on the rare occasion I DO get coffee out, it is a black drip coffee.  I don't really see a need to tip on that - it is almost no work.
 
2013-01-09 04:07:10 PM

robohobo: mrshowrules: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Canadians don't tip well at all.

This is always overstated.  The truth is that Americans tip slightly better than Canadians on average.  Studies support this (British and Japanese tourists are also very good).  Canadian waitresses get a slightly higher base salary than American servers.  Also, the type tourists you get travelling to Florida/Orlando are not typical of the majority of Canadian travelers and they skew the stats unfairly (make us look bad).

/generous Canadian tipper

Where do the majority of Canadian travelers visit, when they come down to the States? Not including border areas. I would imagine the left coast and NYC.


I just said it, Florida.  Border towns, Las Vegas, DC, New York also but up to a million Canadians especially from Quebec but also Ontario, travel to Miami, Orlando and other parts of Florida every year.

You are getting a huge number of backwards French townsfolk that have never traveled anywhere in Canada or even outside their little neck of the woods, who are flying south for the sun.  Many of these people barely eat out in their local towns other than fast food place.  They are structurally shiatty tippers and not very classy.  Not indicative of the average Canadian.  Also, older people (in general) are shiatty tippers and those are also the Canadians more likely to travel south in winter.  Younger Canadians pick more exotic US, Carriean and international destinations.

Most Canadians tip between 15% and 20%.  Most American tourist coming to Canada, are very good at tipping.  They deserve recognition for this.  Of course, there are horror stories/exceptions to every generality.
 
2013-01-09 04:08:50 PM

Carn: My rule is a dollar per beer unless the beers start going over $5, in which case revert to normal percentages. But if the beers are that pricey most of the time I run a tab. Easier to do the math once.


My rule for beer is to tip generously based on Binghamton prices. If someone wants to charge me $10 for a glass of beer, I'm not going to give them extra gratuity for the privilege of being boned. You're getting the same spare change as you would if my beer was $4.

I'd consider that a dick move if I tipped that way for food, but as many people already observed, serving a beer is not like serving food.
 
2013-01-09 04:09:37 PM
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Tipping is a scam. It is a scam on the employees and on the customers. The only one who makes out is the business owner. Lets use the example of a waiter :

The Waiter gets scammed- they have no real base wage, no way to know how much money they will make any given week. They may get a lot of good tables, and make $1000, or they may get a lot of bad tables and make $100. With their income being so variable, they have no way to plan expenses. Also, the waiter thinks they can under-report their tips to the IRS and keep more money, but the IRS ain't stupid.

The Customer gets scammed- they see low food prices and order a meal, only to be expected to pay far above and beyond the posted price. If they refuse to pay extra, there is the threat (actually voiced by many waiters on Fark threads such as this one!) that the waiter will tamper with their food, or at the very least provide poor service.

The restaurant owner, on the other hand,
-gets to pay his waiters shiat wages (= more money in his pocket)
-gets to offload any personnel problems onto the customers ('I don't have to discipline the waiters, the customers will just not tip the bad ones')
-gets to hire fewer waiters, and spin this as 'an opportunity to earn more tips' (= more money in his pocket)
-Gets to advertise lower prices (because he has low payroll), thus increasing business (= more money in his pocket) and making the waiters work harder (more ''opportunity ')


The solution is simple- eliminate tipping and pay waiters a fair wage. (What that fair wage would be depends on circumstances, just like any other job- you pay enough to get the people you need.)
 
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