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2013-01-09 03:08:10 PM  

Shirley Ujest: He won't tip his server because he cannot afford it, but can afford to go out to eat.


I give this guy a World Class Troll Award.


and if his taxes had REALLY gone up he;s someone who make more than $400K a year.  Who the Fark ARE these people that work themselves into towering rages over things that haven;t actually happened to them?

He's basically saying his pissed off about the entire CONCEPT of fairly distributing the tax burden
 
2013-01-09 03:08:12 PM  
Quick questions:

1. If someone were to take a photograph from the internet, and want to crop it so they could print it and use it themselves, what program would be best?

2. can a regular office printer print stuff on card stock? I want to pass them out and I think they should have some "heft" to them.

Sorry, I am in a bit of a rush, as it is my anniversary and I'm taking the wife out tonight to a fancy dinner so I really need a fast answer.

Thanks!
 
2013-01-09 03:08:25 PM  
So, am I the only guy here who adds a little extra for some cleavage?
 
2013-01-09 03:08:53 PM  

mcreadyblue: Waitress's are still not going to be impressed with you no matter how much you tip.


That's fine, I think my fiance would get jealous if they did.

/Why in gods name do you assume that's why someone would tip high? That's just sad, man.

meanmutton: If your total hourly rate would be sub minimum wage, you should file a DOL complaint and sue to get the back pay.


I'm probably exaggerating a tad-but even if I'm not, I'm not sure it would work that way? *Technically*, as a grad student, I am a 'student' who is paid a stipend for my enrollment/doing research for them, with tuition waived. I don't think I count as a 'worker'.
 
2013-01-09 03:09:07 PM  

evilmrsock:

/ COOLEST OF STORIES, BRAHS.


s1.postimage.org

/been wanting to post for a while now...thanks for the set-up.
 
2013-01-09 03:09:33 PM  

dv-ous: Teaser: Tipping is stupid.

Lots of traditions are stupid. You know what's really stupid? That guy in the bathroom that hands you a towel. You're supposed to tip him. I want to know why the hell he even exists. (I like to think he's there to beat the ever-loving shiat out of anybody who pees on the seat, but the universe isn't that glorious.)

But that's how you know it's a high class place - unnecessary jobs, people being used as furniture, and lots of noblesse oblige.


Ugh that drives me bonkers. And they always have them at places that don't seem to need them - I just had dinner at a little no-frills place in Little Italy and couldn't believe my eyes when I saw a woman in the bathroom squeezing soap for tips. And the people are always immigrants - the tip is 99% of pity most of the time.
 
2013-01-09 03:09:35 PM  

Endive Wombat: Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.

Here is the thing.  Acceptable tips range from 15%-20% here in the US.  20% is really the new norm.  If you step back and think about it, simply adding 20% to all prices is not how it is going to work.  (I have no links for this, but if you search you can find it, economists have studies this)...in reality, your meal would actually be somewhere closer to 40% higher because of payroll taxes, social security, all kinds of stuff.

Here is the other thing.  Yes, in very simple restaurants, it is a easy as bringing a soda and food to a table.  But that is the exception to the rule.

Generally, guests are EXTREMELY demanding.  Let me ask you something - has your waiter ever come back to your table, and ask how everything is and if he can get you something and you say "everything is great, I am all set..."  Then not even 30 seconds later, you ask for an additional side of ranch?  The waiter gets your ranch and then you ask for a side of ketchup...that in the industry is what is known as "running you around" (you being the waiter).  Common courtesy would dictate that you would have asked for your ranch and ketchup the very first time.  Now, why am I going through this?  Because as a waiter, you develop and adapt to your tables as best as you can, you have a rhythm that you keep, and when someone piece meals their requests it gets VERY frustrating and it actually effects the service of other tables.  Ever been sitting there wondering why your Coke is taking so damn long to get to your table?  It is likely because of another guest/table, not a bad waiter ...


nice post.  thanks.

there's a great restaurant in Lincoln, Montana, a very small town nestled in the heart of the mountains.  I go there all the time.  At. Lambkins, if you want more coffee...you get up, get the coffee, and pour it.  Some of the regulars will jump in and pour for everyone in there...it's awesome.

I could never understand why people are dicks to the employees of food places, etc.  I just i just don't have it in me to be a dick...or maybe it's 'cuz i bus'd tables to get through college.  LOTS of respect for employees of restaurants, food places, etc...
 
2013-01-09 03:10:48 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: [img.gawkerassets.com image 623x624]

Funny how the guy who left that card says he can't afford a tip, yet he still went out to eat anyway. I guess it's also Obama's fault that he's a cheap asshole.

/if you're too cheap to tip
//then make your own damn food at home
///I tip 20%, motherf*ckers


Summed it perfectly sir.

//If you can't tip then you can't afford to go out.
 
2013-01-09 03:10:53 PM  

pute kisses like a man: Lollipop165: whistleridge: How to tip properly, and be an awesome human being in the process (even if you do eat at Applebee's):

I've done that drunkenly... lol

My dad is old school and tips 12% although my mother and I have tried to explain to him a bazillion times that minimum is 15% and 20% is pretty expected. He freaks out and gets all angry with us when we complain about his tipping. We had wonderful service for Christmas Eve this year and I had to watch my dad to make sure he didn't leave a measilly 12%. He left 17% which is the best I could expect from him I guess. Hubby and I stayed behind after they left to have a drink and we tipped them 50% on the drinks, so hopefully we made it up a bit.

... oh, and he's pretty darn wealthy btw so this isn't a rich/poor thing

yeah, i've had to do this before. I don't even argue with the old man any more. i just surreptitiously check the amount and wait till no one's looking to throw in enough cash to get it to 20%.

/ the worst part: it usually happens when my dad is visiting me, which means I've taken him somewhere that I really like. i will not fark up a tip where i like to eat regularly. and i live in a city with some of the best food and service in the world, and not coincidentally, the highest average tip rate (as long as you don't go to tourist traps)
// i used to try to explain to the old man that his crappy tips are going to someone just like me when i was in college. i worked in a restaurant and made shiat. he becomes sympathetic for that dinner, but forgets about it by the next time.


I can't wait until inflation really hits and tips go to 100%.

So much easier to do the math.
 
2013-01-09 03:10:59 PM  

ceebeecates4: This one time I caught attitude from some wannabe-actress waitress about the tip I left her. She'd thought that because she gave me my soup "complementary", I would reciprocate with a large tip. (Just to note: there was nothing wrong with the soup, nor did I complain about it). She was nonplussed when it turns out that I was friends with the owner of the establishment and was hired to improve loss-prevention procedures.

I understand that service industry jobs can be hard, I actually worked at a few myself. That being said, if you want to take the moral high ground and force people into tipping, than service industry employees SHOULD take the moral high ground. Stop playing games with tickets. Stop snacking and drinking gratis on the job, that's what your shift meal is for. Stop viewing a cash-paying customer as an opportunity to pad your own bottom line.

/Loss Prevention consultation isn't hard at restaurants. Nobody seems to be honest.


I love the time I went into a Sonic Drive-In that I was a district manager for, and pulled the register receipts for the drive through, and was comparing it to an audiotape of the squawk box. The drive-thru girl was white as a ghost when she realized what I was doing. Lots of free food and drinks were going out the window. It was her last day of employment.
 
2013-01-09 03:12:34 PM  
TIME TO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRITES:

WHO DO YOU TIP?

A) The McDonald's/Wendy's server who makes your frappucino, elaborate "artisan" inspired creation and sides that involve multiple toppings, time and effort

B) The cute bartender who pops the beer top and hands you a bottle in under five seconds

C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.
 
2013-01-09 03:12:35 PM  

Great_Milenko: So, am I the only guy here who adds a little extra for some cleavage?


The amount of the tip is proportional to the amount of cleavage.
 
2013-01-09 03:12:50 PM  
People that go to expensive restaurants and refuse to tip under the guise that it's a hardship for them are deserving of having their food tampered with. If you can't afford to tip at that restaurant, go to a restaurant you could theoretically afford tipping. I suspect it's not that they can't afford to tip so much as they're greedy jerks that refuse to pay someone of a lower caste than they are.

We frequently eat out. It's a family tradition for us to go to restaurant for lunch on Saturdays. We tip 20% as a standard amount, if this number doesn't come out even, we round up to the next dollar. A few cents more is not really a burden for us, and we figure it may make the waitstaff's life easier. Neither of us has ever been a waiter but both of us can empathize with people making such a low minimum wage needing to be tipped appropriately in order to survive. The pay system for waitstaff in the US is bogus. In fact minimum wage should be indexed to inflation instead of changed maybe every ten to fifteen years after much arm turning of "fiscal conservatives" in Congress.

It's a rarity for us to get poor service.
 
2013-01-09 03:13:04 PM  

kid_icarus: As an aside...Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out; particularly at a sit-down restaurant that will involve tipping. If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.


Yeah...no. You're employed by the establishment I'm in, not by me. Your employer pays your compensation, not me. A gratuity is a perk for a job well done, not a participation award because you managed to stagger your way into work that day (bravo on joining other responsible adults in that achievement!).

I will gladly tip a server who is polite, prompt, and ensures my experience goes smoothly. I will have no compunction about reducing the tip I leave all the way down to a penny if the service deserves it (I never skip tipping; to skip it doesn't convey why a tip wasn't left. Leaving a penny, preferably with a note, gets the point across).

Now, to go into a restaurant with the intention of not tipping, that's the act of an asshole. So maybe we can find some common ground.
 
2013-01-09 03:13:16 PM  

PrivateCaboose: Carn: OgreMagi: Last week I left my favorite watress a $60 tip on a $15 meal because it was the holiday season and I know she works much hard for less money than I do.  I always tip well.

We did that once for our waitress at dollar beer happy hour. We were there every week and our group always left awesome tips but it was the holidays or her birthday so everyone left her $20 on 5-6 beers. It was over $100 in tips. Wouldn't you know it but we always got served first and most often. We used to have to tell them to stop bringing beers because you'd be half done and she'd have the next one waiting for you. Good times.

I miss having a regular bar.


me too :(
 
2013-01-09 03:13:52 PM  

gerrymander: I love the people above who are all "jerk should just cut back on eating out hurr durr", as though a restaurant which suddenly loses 15-20% of it's business -- you know, the amount of a tip when spread across the cumulative purchasing decisions of the local population -- isn't going to fire some staff, or just close. Pushing the hard decisions one level further out doesn't actually make the hard decision go away.

/It would have been funnier if the guy had just started tipping with birth control pills.


That's the problem though, isn't it.  During a recession, and when times are tight, people spend less discretionary income.  No matter how you cut it, to food service industry is DISCRETIONARY income.  It is cheaper to make your own food than it is to eat at a restaurant.  So yes, I am eating out less.  Yes, local businesses are suffering because that extra $50 I am paying means I have less to give them.  That is not my fault - it is sound financial planning for a change in my tax rate.  I am not going to save less because my taxes went up.  I am going to spend less.
 
2013-01-09 03:13:58 PM  
Automatically tack on 15% (or 20%) to every bill, and at the end of the meal give the customer a card where he can check a box directing that the money goes to the server, or to some well-known charity. Wouldn't that be better than having to carry a calculator around, and deciding whether the tip is calculated before or after taxes? If the service is good, the waiter or waitress still gets the money. If it's bad, at least the customer is not being a cheap bastard, and someone who deserves the money is being helped.
 
2013-01-09 03:14:27 PM  

JFarker131: kid_icarus: If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

This, a thousand times. I've waited tables, worked in coffee shops, been a bartender. Leave a crappy tip, I will fark with your food, or have someone more disgusting than me do it so I don't have to.

/talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce, he complimented the owner after his meal on the new recipe they were using.
//ew.


Then you are a douche and I also call BS on your CSB. Get a better f'in job so that you don't have to live off the generosity of others. I also worked as a waiter/bartender, etc and made a pretty good living at it while I was in college and grad school. I wouldn't consider putting something, especially semen, into someone's food. I hope Karma kicks you square in the balls.
 
2013-01-09 03:14:27 PM  

kid_icarus: If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

/unless you like your steak served to you after being rubbed on the bathroom floor and seasoned with pubes


Wait, and lukemia of the eyes too, right?
 
2013-01-09 03:14:27 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Subtext: "I am a coward and a failure at everything I've ever tried. I have elaborate revenge fantasies about the abuse I take at my menial job from superiors and co-workers alike. My wife utterly controls my life and does not allow me to control any aspect of my life. My children mock and belittle me. This note is my sad and desperate attempt to pretend I am something within a time zone of being a man, even if just for a few seconds. Even though you are a service worker and most likely a disinterested teenager I would never have the courage to say something like this to your face, lest I break down into tears and be forced to trudge to my 1994 Chevy Lumina with Dockers beshat."


Shame there's no brown farkie - oh well - Favourited!
 
2013-01-09 03:14:34 PM  
If the service is good I'll give a really good tip, like, don't look directly at the sun.
 
2013-01-09 03:14:40 PM  

freeforever: TIME TO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRITES:

WHO DO YOU TIP?

A) The McDonald's/Wendy's server who makes your frappucino, elaborate "artisan" inspired creation and sides that involve multiple toppings, time and effort

B) The cute bartender who pops the beer top and hands you a bottle in under five seconds

C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.


You can call it hypocrisy if you want but that's certainly not going to phase me. There are some jobs in the US where the pay comes directly from the customer, not from the employer. Those are the jobs where I tip. Bartender is one of those jobs. McDonald's cashier isn't.
 
2013-01-09 03:15:17 PM  
This is why I only go to restaurants where the staff is comprised of adults. They probably make more than 2$ an hour, and they probably understand that farking with food is not good to do.

//fark you, waitress.
 
2013-01-09 03:15:31 PM  

freeforever: C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.


From what I understand, minimum wage for a bartender is actually LOWER than minimun wage for a fast food worker because of tips. So, you tip the bartender.
 
2013-01-09 03:15:50 PM  

ohokyeah: People that go to expensive restaurants and refuse to tip under the guise that it's a hardship for them are deserving of having their food tampered with. If you can't afford to tip at that restaurant, go to a restaurant you could theoretically afford tipping. I suspect it's not that they can't afford to tip so much as they're greedy jerks that refuse to pay someone of a lower caste than they are.

We frequently eat out. It's a family tradition for us to go to restaurant for lunch on Saturdays. We tip 20% as a standard amount, if this number doesn't come out even, we round up to the next dollar. A few cents more is not really a burden for us, and we figure it may make the waitstaff's life easier. Neither of us has ever been a waiter but both of us can empathize with people making such a low minimum wage needing to be tipped appropriately in order to survive. The pay system for waitstaff in the US is bogus. In fact minimum wage should be indexed to inflation instead of changed maybe every ten to fifteen years after much arm turning of "fiscal conservatives" in Congress.

It's a rarity for us to get poor service.


Minimum wage increases unemployment.
 
2013-01-09 03:15:51 PM  

mcreadyblue: PrivateCaboose: mcreadyblue: Radioactive Ass: California doesn't have a separate wage for food servers like most of the other states do ($8.00 an hour). As such the tips really are a gratuity for services rendered and shouldn't be used as a guilt tool to help boost the servers wage up to minimum wage like in most of the other states. The 15-20% rule shouldn't necessarily apply here the same way it does in say New York ($5.00 an hour) or Virginia ($2.13 an hour). If you're not tipping 15-20% of your bill in those states then you should feel bad because you're a bad person, In CA, NV, OR, or WA (all at or above minimum wage)... not so much.

I do tip but for me it really is a matter of service versus reasonable expectations as opposed to feeling like I'm being served by someone on slave wages and feeling guilty if I didn't leave at least 15% knowing that the IRS and the state tax board will still assume that I did and will dock their pay accordingly. I know plenty of waiters and waitresses out here that under report (by far) their tips and really don't pay their "Fair share" of taxes so I can kind of see where the customer is coming from.

That brings the question....why are the Chef's not tipped along with the waitstaff?

Because they aren't making waitserver minimum wage.  They make much more an hour.

Really? I thought Applebee's starts Chef's off at $12/hr?


My waitressing rate was $2.13 an hour.
 
2013-01-09 03:16:23 PM  

meanmutton: You can call it hypocrisy if you want but that's certainly not going to phase me.


You don't sound like the sort of person who'd be phased about being a hypocrite, so I'm not not really disappointed.
 
Ant
2013-01-09 03:16:36 PM  

JFarker131: kid_icarus: If I were him, I would never eat at that restaurant again for the rest of my natural life.

/unless you like your steak served to you after being rubbed on the bathroom floor and seasoned with pubes

This, a thousand times. I've waited tables, worked in coffee shops, been a bartender. Leave a crappy tip, I will fark with your food, or have someone more disgusting than me do it so I don't have to.

/talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce, he complimented the owner after his meal on the new recipe they were using.
//ew.


Please note that by saying assholes should expect their food to be farked with, we are in no way endorsing the farking with people's food by restaurant workers. We think you're a douche even if the guy whose food you farked with was also a douche.
 
2013-01-09 03:16:57 PM  

Endive Wombat: What will likely happen if you give a bad tip for no reason other than you disagreeing with the "American Style Tipping System" is that you are going to get mediocre and likely rushed service (I want to turn your shiatty tipping ass out of here ASAP so I can make some real money). It is simply not worth my time as a waiter to invest being nice, staying on top of your meal progress, refilling your water/drinks, etc. because no matter how great I perform, I know it is for nothing. If you are regularly stiffing the staff at the places you frequent, it is likely you are well known as a bad tipper, and the waiter's service to your table reflects that.


I have no problem with this. However, in my experience, a lot of waiters turn this into a self fulfilling prophecy. As in, they look at me and assume I'm a poor tipper, then act as you describe. Or they're just lazy farkers. Either way, shiat service = shiat tip.

Servers in these threads always talk about stuff like this. I always wonder how they know someone is a shiatty tipper until they leave a tip. I suppose you must get regular cheapskates. However, I don't eat out enough to be regular anywhere. But I get disinterested service fairly often.

TL;DR: Waiters, am I a cheap tipper, or did you just assume I was a cheap tipper?
 
2013-01-09 03:17:01 PM  
Does anyone else tip for carry-out from a sit-down restaurant or pizza joint? I'll usually put a dollar in the bucket or something but there's not a lot of service involved in taking my money and handing me my food. I don't mind tipping but I do mind the superficial judgment of waitstaff depending on how big your tip is. Also simply because your job is stressful doesn't mean you deserve to get rewarded 20% for anything. I've done wait staff. It sucks, but I was never angry at any amount people left because they actually do not have to do it. What you learn is that the better service you provide and the better you get at programming customers you can influence your own tips. I'd usually use a riddle or two at the outset of service to figure out how smart the customer was, the best metric I found was "how many pennies are there in 100 dollars?" Depending on how quickly or correctly they answered that question let me know how easily they were going to be to upsell and take suggestions for beer.

/Yeah, you do want another Chimay Blue
 
2013-01-09 03:17:15 PM  

pute kisses like a man: yeah, i've had to do this before. I don't even argue with the old man any more. i just surreptitiously check the amount and wait till no one's looking to throw in enough cash to get it to 20%.


Back in the day, my mom covered for a very sick friend for some shindig. She was a Air Force nurse, of all things. After only night of service work, she vowed to tip every single service worker she would ever meet a minimum 30% I've watched her go as high as 100%, and she drilled into me her policy of being polite to servers...you never know what's going on behind the scenes, so don't punish them for your steak being overdone. After she met my dad, she made it known that she can't respect a man who doesn't tip, so he adopted a similar policy. I never had to go behind them and check the gratuity. Despite being otherwise stubborn, the man was easy to train if he wanted to keep getting some from the moms.

Some of my friends, however, are not so generous. I can't tell you how much cash I've surreptitiously left after one of my asshole buddies couldn't be arsed to do it. It's not something you argue about, because people like that won't ever change. Just drop an extra 10-spot in there and be about your way.

While on the subject of payment, why is that men are more than happy to buy dinner (you'll buy it next week, Jim will get it the following week, etc) but women shriek when an iced tea was accidentally placed on their check, which was split 7 ways and you had to ignore all your other tables to it? I understand this is not a 100% accurate depiction, but it's definitely the norm.
 
2013-01-09 03:17:37 PM  
Semi - approves, depending on service:

Link
3rd Rock from the Sun
 
2013-01-09 03:18:17 PM  
I love all the people in this thread that think committing a felony is a proper response to someone not paying an optional amount of money when eating out.
 
2013-01-09 03:18:51 PM  

meanmutton: pippi longstocking: I'm sure people making over $400K can't afford to leave a $5 tip for a meal...what a troll, probably another right-wing retard

Dude, you're going to be in for a surprise when you get paid this month -- EVERYONE at all income levels got hit with a 2 percentage point tax hike.


Surprise? Nope. I knew when the tax break went in that it was temporary with a sunset provision and I shouldn't rely on it continuing forever. I treated the extra in my paycheck as just that, extra.

But I suppose that if you go through life ignorant and utterly short-sighted, that yes, the sunsetting of the tax break that was put in place when the tax break was initially enacted somehow surprised you and caused you problems.
 
2013-01-09 03:19:37 PM  

had98c: I love all the people in this thread that think committing a felony is a proper response to someone not paying an optional amount of money when eating out.


Oh, eat me. In a manner of speaking.
 
2013-01-09 03:20:05 PM  

Carn: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

$10 for a coke?! Did it come in an aquarium?


Not to mention $12 for 3 "the". You know a place is pricey when they charge you $4 a word.
 
2013-01-09 03:20:09 PM  
My wife ALWAYS has a coupon when we go out to eat. Buy one entree get another of equal or lesser value free, or enjoy 20% off your next bill for example. We make sure to tip on the original cost before coupons apply discounts so that our waiters/waitresses don't get screwed. Because we coupon, we don't frequent anywhere so it's not about keeping semen out of our spinach and artichoke dip. We just enjoy the service.
 
2013-01-09 03:22:19 PM  
It takes a pretty well honed set of skills to deal with not kill the general public, especially around food and keep a smile.
FTFM

why yes, I have worked in food service. Why do you ask?
 
2013-01-09 03:24:01 PM  

sewnandsilent: My wife ALWAYS has a coupon when we go out to eat. Buy one entree get another of equal or lesser value free, or enjoy 20% off your next bill for example. We make sure to tip on the original cost before coupons apply discounts so that our waiters/waitresses don't get screwed. Because we coupon, we don't frequent anywhere so it's not about keeping semen out of our spinach and artichoke dip. We just enjoy the service.


I need to start finding these coupons.
 
2013-01-09 03:24:08 PM  
Tipping is not required nor expected in Rome, Italy, and service is shiat. Tipping 10-15% is customary but not required in London, England,and service is generally very good. So you don't need to get to American levels of tipping ridiculousness to ensure good service. I know a guy who prefers to wait tables rather than learn an actual skill and work in the kitchen because he earns way more waiting tables.

Also, imagine the butthurt if the article said "of course it was a woman"
 
2013-01-09 03:26:09 PM  

dickfreckle: Typically, people like this eat at casual (affordable) restaurants belittle the staff in order to feel better about themselves. While our friend from TFA didn't have the courage to actually speak to his server (as far as we know), there are plenty who do. Sh*t day at your 28k job? Why, just go belittle someone else to give that thimble dick the extra inch! As a former restaurant employee I've seen it more times than I care to recount. It's the human version of coming home and kicking the dog because you were emasculated by your boss and need to feel some measure of power.


I went to a conference a couple years a go and a group of us who had been getting along decided to go out one night for dinner. There was going to be 10 of us, so we called ahead for a reservation. When we arrived we were seated at a nice quiet table in the upstairs of the restaurant with a lovely view down below. One of the guys immediately jumps on our server about our location and demands to see a manager. When the manager comes over he just can't. stop. biatching. about how bad our location is and how we need a better table. The namager leaves to se what he can do and one of us asks the guy what is wrong with the table.

"Nothing," the guy says, "you just don't ever settle for the first table."

We got a very loud table right next to the kitchen as our upgrade.
 
2013-01-09 03:26:54 PM  

Lollipop165: freeforever: C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.

From what I understand, minimum wage for a bartender is actually LOWER than minimun wage for a fast food worker because of tips. So, you tip the bartender.


Link
 
2013-01-09 03:27:51 PM  

BSABSVR: We got a very loud table right next to the kitchen as our upgrade.


Sounds like an excellent time for the phrase "we're not with him".
 
2013-01-09 03:27:58 PM  

Lollipop165: From what I understand, minimum wage for a bartender is actually LOWER than minimun wage for a fast food worker because of tips. So, you tip the bartender.


When paying cash, is a dollar every beer fair? Like seriously, they fill my beer for about 12 seconds and i'm not seeking advice or anything.

bartenders often carry attitude and I have no clue why. I carry money and I'm not a cute girl so I already paid the cover. I get tight with tips in those situations.

/I tip regularly everywhere else
 
2013-01-09 03:28:09 PM  

rossocaere: Tipping is not required nor expected in Rome, Italy, and service is shiat. Tipping 10-15% is customary but not required in London, England,and service is generally very good. So you don't need to get to American levels of tipping ridiculousness to ensure good service. I know a guy who prefers to wait tables rather than learn an actual skill and work in the kitchen because he earns way more waiting tables.

Also, imagine the butthurt if the article said "of course it was a woman"


Of course, men have a sense of humor.
 
2013-01-09 03:28:16 PM  

freeforever: TIME TO CALL OUT THE HYPOCRITES:

WHO DO YOU TIP?

A) The McDonald's/Wendy's server who makes your frappucino, elaborate "artisan" inspired creation and sides that involve multiple toppings, time and effort

B) The cute bartender who pops the beer top and hands you a bottle in under five seconds

C) Both, because I'm not full of shiat when talking on FARK about the importance of tiping people in the service industry.


I think most states have wage laws that heavily favor the Wendy's worker.
 
2013-01-09 03:28:16 PM  

BSABSVR: dickfreckle: Typically, people like this eat at casual (affordable) restaurants belittle the staff in order to feel better about themselves. While our friend from TFA didn't have the courage to actually speak to his server (as far as we know), there are plenty who do. Sh*t day at your 28k job? Why, just go belittle someone else to give that thimble dick the extra inch! As a former restaurant employee I've seen it more times than I care to recount. It's the human version of coming home and kicking the dog because you were emasculated by your boss and need to feel some measure of power.

I went to a conference a couple years a go and a group of us who had been getting along decided to go out one night for dinner. There was going to be 10 of us, so we called ahead for a reservation. When we arrived we were seated at a nice quiet table in the upstairs of the restaurant with a lovely view down below. One of the guys immediately jumps on our server about our location and demands to see a manager. When the manager comes over he just can't. stop. biatching. about how bad our location is and how we need a better table. The namager leaves to se what he can do and one of us asks the guy what is wrong with the table.

"Nothing," the guy says, "you just don't ever settle for the first table."

We got a very loud table right next to the kitchen as our upgrade.


Ugh.  People who are like that - concerned about keeping up appearances - drive me absolutely insane.
 
2013-01-09 03:30:51 PM  

thecpt: Lollipop165: From what I understand, minimum wage for a bartender is actually LOWER than minimun wage for a fast food worker because of tips. So, you tip the bartender.

When paying cash, is a dollar every beer fair? Like seriously, they fill my beer for about 12 seconds and i'm not seeking advice or anything.

bartenders often carry attitude and I have no clue why. I carry money and I'm not a cute girl so I already paid the cover. I get tight with tips in those situations.

/I tip regularly everywhere else


A dollar a drink is the reasonable norm.  For me, it depends on whether I have cash or open a tab.  In DC, most beers are $6 or $7 (yes, yes, I know, it's crazy).  If I pay cash, it's a buck a beer.  If I open a tab, it's 20% on the total unless the bartender was an asshole who ignored me (happens from time to time).  It's just more convenient to leave a dollar than to fiddle with coins.  If a drink ends up costing $6.50 or something, I leave a dollar and the change.
 
2013-01-09 03:31:13 PM  

Rapmaster2000: rm from around 800. That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service. If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss. Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own. You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.


You've never been to France then; Because the service quite often sucks, I should know I've lived here 17 years.
/worked restaurants and bars in college to make ends meet
//still only tip 10%
 
2013-01-09 03:31:14 PM  

Felgraf: Man I really can't understand being so tight fisted you don't tip.

I mean, fark, I'm a physics grad student. If I were paid hourly, it'd probably be *below minimum wage*, but I still try to tip 20-30% (more often 30%, even if I get chastised a bit), if only to help make up for the assholes who DON'T tip.

Because, quite frankly, I know I could not work in the service sector without murdering someone after about, oh, a month. They have to deal with people who blame them personally when the kitchen is out of something. They have to deal with people who enjoy simply belittling them because they're a waiter. They deal with assholes like those in the aforementioned article.

FARK YES I am going to tip them. $15 pizza order? Here's $5 extra.

/Don't eat out or eat delivery often these days, mind. It also helps that a local pizza place gives you %30 off if you order via the web.


I only bump the tip up above 20% if I've been camped in their section a long time, taking up a table that another party could have used in the meantime. Like if we just order drinks and chit chat for a long time. Then I tip based on the actual value of their service, rather than a percentage, so I can wind up leaving a few times the actual tab.

But I think in your pizza coupon situation, you should really look at the tip as being on the pre-discount price.

\The good news about physics grad school is that it ends eventually.
\\You ever notice the difference between a group of engineers trying to split a tab and a bunch of physicists? The engineers pull out their calculators to figure out every individual's share. The physicists each approximate the cost of their meal, put it in the center of the table, and then go around the table throwing ones onto the pile until it comes out right.
 
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