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2013-01-09 02:54:40 PM  

PrivateCaboose: pute kisses like a man: meat0918: PrivateCaboose: Cybernetic: If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal. Go to a damned drive thru instead.

Serious question - how much do you tip when you do an online order for takeout from a place like Nando's?

Delivery or pick up?

If it is delivered, I give a nice tip. Pickup on the other hand, I don't think I've ever tipped, unless there is a tip jar and I have change.

Here's a followup: Do you tip at buffets?

i tip on pick-up. but, it's usually closer to 10%. the waiter still had to plate the meal, pack it up, and do other stuff.

on buffets? depends, was there any table service? if yes, i think a tip between 10-20% is appropriate, depending on the level of service. if no table service, and you bus your own table, no tip is necessary, unless it's a mom and pop place and it was really good and you feel like being nice.

I had to ask this question about a B&B - tipping outside of the restaurant realm is more difficult for me.  I never know when it's appropriate.  I think the basic rules someone told me were that if it is a B&B, the amount you're paying goes directly to the owners and you leave a small tip for the maid, like in a hotel.  I honestly didn't know that you were supposed to tip hotel maids until about a year ago.  I need like a cheat sheet of whom to tip.  But then I went to tip our apartment concierges and was told they don't accept tips.  ARGH! CONFUSING!


i'll admit, i am very diligent when it comes to tipping at restaurants and bars, but I always get it wrong at hotels. first off, i almost never have cash. i try to make sure no one does anything for me, but then inevitably, someone does something for me and I have no cash. I wish you could just add the tip to the bill... but then, inevitably, it would go to the wrong person, and that person would have to claim it as income... (which is the real genius of tipping - farking big gubment and helping out the little guy).
 
2013-01-09 02:54:42 PM  

LineNoise: Three Crooked Squirrels: JFarker131: This, a thousand times. I've waited tables, worked in coffee shops, been a bartender. Leave a crappy tip, I will fark with your food, or have someone more disgusting than me do it so I don't have to.

/talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce, he complimented the owner after his meal on the new recipe they were using.
//ew.

Well, that sounds felonious.  But at least you can sleep better at night knowing you are the better person.

Sounds like someone making up fantasies.

I've worked in food service before, and farking with someones food like that was a great way to get fired, and wouldn't be tolerated by anyone, be it management or fellow staff. Sure, being a jerk customer would make it take a little longer for your food to get to you, or it would be cold, or part of it would be intentionally screwed up, but actually farking with someones food was a line you didn't cross for any reason. MAYBE if you were notoriously bad and something fell on the floor it wouldn't get thrown out when it normally would have, but that was about as far as it went.


Avoid the lobster bisque.

www.seeing-stars.com
 
2013-01-09 02:54:49 PM  
I'm sorry customer, because of this jackarse (insert card here) we have to impose a built in 15% gratuity to your bill. If you choose to give your server any more gratuity is solely your decision. I wish this didn't have to be the way for both of us.
 
2013-01-09 02:54:51 PM  

JFarker131: /talked a coworker into ejaculating into a truly awful local politician's alfredo sauce


Did your coworker ask you to watch? I would have insisted that you watch.
 
2013-01-09 02:54:53 PM  

Snarfangel: Perhaps it's just the rough biker crowd I run around with, but do women seem to leave a slightly smaller tip than men? (As in rounding down to 15% instead of rounding up to 20%.)


If the server is a woman women tip less and men tip more especially if she is young and/or attractive. I'm not sure about male servers but I suspect they don't have as much variation in their tips.
 
2013-01-09 02:55:24 PM  

codergirl42: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

Are you sure that's American currency? 20$ for a coca cola seems a bit steep.


It's in St. Tropez, France. It's probably in Euros, but it's one of those super elite luxury resorts so things are going to be insanely expensive.

It's also in a country that doesn't have a tipping culture.
 
2013-01-09 02:55:42 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Subtext: "I am a coward and a failure at everything I've ever tried. I have elaborate revenge fantasies about the abuse I take at my menial job from superiors and co-workers alike. My wife utterly controls my life and does not allow me to control any aspect of my life. My children mock and belittle me. This note is my sad and desperate attempt to pretend I am something within a time zone of being a man, even if just for a few seconds. Even though you are a service worker and most likely a disinterested teenager I would never have the courage to say something like this to your face, lest I break down into tears and be forced to trudge to my 1994 Chevy Lumina with Dockers beshat."


Typically, people like this eat at casual (affordable) restaurants belittle the staff in order to feel better about themselves. While our friend from TFA didn't have the courage to actually speak to his server (as far as we know), there are plenty who do. Sh*t day at your 28k job? Why, just go belittle someone else to give that thimble dick the extra inch! As a former restaurant employee I've seen it more times than I care to recount. It's the human version of coming home and kicking the dog because you were emasculated by your boss and need to feel some measure of power.

What's sad/amusing is that this guy probably has a crappy job himself and yet still votes for the party that is interested in screwing him in order to protect some billionaire. After all, with that HVAC vocational degree, he too will one day be rich.

Turn off Fox and talk radio, you dolts.

/nothing wrong with HVAC, I'm just sayin'
 
2013-01-09 02:55:58 PM  

codergirl42: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

Are you sure that's American currency? 20$ for a coca cola seems a bit steep.


It's from France. It's not dollars, I think they use crepes.
 
2013-01-09 02:56:00 PM  

Cybernetic: If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal. Go to a damned drive thru instead.


And then the restaurant goes under and all the non-tipped BOH staff are out of work and you flit off to go stupid up another joint.
 
2013-01-09 02:56:10 PM  

OgreMagi: Last week I left my favorite watress a $60 tip on a $15 meal because it was the holiday season and I know she works much hard for less money than I do.  I always tip well.


We did that once for our waitress at dollar beer happy hour. We were there every week and our group always left awesome tips but it was the holidays or her birthday so everyone left her $20 on 5-6 beers. It was over $100 in tips. Wouldn't you know it but we always got served first and most often. We used to have to tell them to stop bringing beers because you'd be half done and she'd have the next one waiting for you. Good times.
 
2013-01-09 02:56:13 PM  

mcreadyblue: Radioactive Ass: California doesn't have a separate wage for food servers like most of the other states do ($8.00 an hour). As such the tips really are a gratuity for services rendered and shouldn't be used as a guilt tool to help boost the servers wage up to minimum wage like in most of the other states. The 15-20% rule shouldn't necessarily apply here the same way it does in say New York ($5.00 an hour) or Virginia ($2.13 an hour). If you're not tipping 15-20% of your bill in those states then you should feel bad because you're a bad person, In CA, NV, OR, or WA (all at or above minimum wage)... not so much.

I do tip but for me it really is a matter of service versus reasonable expectations as opposed to feeling like I'm being served by someone on slave wages and feeling guilty if I didn't leave at least 15% knowing that the IRS and the state tax board will still assume that I did and will dock their pay accordingly. I know plenty of waiters and waitresses out here that under report (by far) their tips and really don't pay their "Fair share" of taxes so I can kind of see where the customer is coming from.

That brings the question....why are the Chef's not tipped along with the waitstaff?


Because they aren't making waitserver minimum wage.  They make much more an hour.
 
2013-01-09 02:56:20 PM  

The_Sponge: liam76: The_Sponge: I was at the Heart Attack Grill in Vegas about six months ago. The receipt listed the sales tax as "Obama's Cut".

I wonder if you could refuse to pay that.

Heh....not after they finally tell you it is the sales tax.

/That place is insane.
//Even my fat ass couldn't finish their double cheeseburger.


I wonder if there is any law about mislabeling taxes...
 
2013-01-09 02:57:02 PM  

Endive Wombat: Generally, guests are EXTREMELY demanding.


I'm not. In fact I'm pretty easygoing. So much so that I think I make up for other customers' douchiness. What's that worth?

Also I've worked in the service industry for a good number of years myself, and why waiters and waitresses are the special snowflakes of the service industry with regard to "what a tough job it is" perplexes me.

Endive Wombat: It takes a pretty well honed set of skills to deal with the general public, especially around food and keep a smile.


FIFTY

Endive Wombat: What will likely happen if you give a bad tip for no reason other than you disagreeing with the "American Style Tipping System" is that you are going to get mediocre and likely rushed service


I often get mediocre service in spite of generous tipping habits. Is it okay yet for me to tip less?
 
2013-01-09 02:57:52 PM  

Carn: OgreMagi: Last week I left my favorite watress a $60 tip on a $15 meal because it was the holiday season and I know she works much hard for less money than I do.  I always tip well.

We did that once for our waitress at dollar beer happy hour. We were there every week and our group always left awesome tips but it was the holidays or her birthday so everyone left her $20 on 5-6 beers. It was over $100 in tips. Wouldn't you know it but we always got served first and most often. We used to have to tell them to stop bringing beers because you'd be half done and she'd have the next one waiting for you. Good times.


I miss having a regular bar.
 
2013-01-09 02:57:54 PM  
If you can't afford to go out to eat, don't.

Someone so concerned with the intricacies of tax policy should be able to figure out that math.
 
2013-01-09 02:57:56 PM  
I also factor in the amount of time the server is with our table. Since we're usually at our table for 3-3.5 hours for trivia, I increase my tip to account for that.
 
2013-01-09 02:58:00 PM  

chewielouie: [external.ak.fbcdn.net image 320x180]

/I'll tip if I eat at the restaurant.
//No tip just to pick up a pizza.


I hear you, but I tip at a sushi bar when I pick it up.
 
2013-01-09 02:58:14 PM  
So this guy knew before going out to dinner he would have enough to buy whatever he chose on the menu but not the tip. Seems reasonable.
 
2013-01-09 02:58:35 PM  
In the 80's when I managed a little seaside bar with kick ass food we would occasionally get some douche or a table of them that would pull shiat like this. Since the place was small I would know if they had stiffed the staff real quick. I made it a point to follow them to the parking lot / pier and give them the sorry-ass tip back to them. Then I would tell them that I would properly tip their server and they were not allowed back until they thought about what douche bags they were. Many of these people were people with boats (and yachts) that would be part of the flowing armada of douchenozzle that sail up and down the eastern coast. (Think Ted Knight from Caddy Shack)
 
2013-01-09 02:58:45 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Subtext: "I am a coward and a failure at everything I've ever tried. I have elaborate revenge fantasies about the abuse I take at my menial job from superiors and co-workers alike. My wife utterly controls my life and does not allow me to control any aspect of my life. My children mock and belittle me. This note is my sad and desperate attempt to pretend I am something within a time zone of being a man, even if just for a few seconds. Even though you are a service worker and most likely a disinterested teenager I would never have the courage to say something like this to your face, lest I break down into tears and be forced to trudge to my 1994 Chevy Lumina with Dockers beshat."


***farkied***
 
2013-01-09 02:58:55 PM  

Publikwerks: You know, stupid dumbshiats tipping guy probably used his credit card to pay for his meal. I would ID theft the bejesus out of him.


Wouldn't do much harm to him. The credit card company would eat the loss. Just put his name somehow on some restauranteurs' database of bad customers.
 
2013-01-09 02:59:06 PM  

SkunkWerks: Endive Wombat: Generally, guests are EXTREMELY demanding.

I'm not. In fact I'm pretty easygoing. So much so that I think I make up for other customers' douchiness. What's that worth?

Also I've worked in the service industry for a good number of years myself, and why waiters and waitresses are the special snowflakes of the service industry with regard to "what a tough job it is" perplexes me.

Endive Wombat: It takes a pretty well honed set of skills to deal with the general public, especially around food and keep a smile.

FIFTY

Endive Wombat: What will likely happen if you give a bad tip for no reason other than you disagreeing with the "American Style Tipping System" is that you are going to get mediocre and likely rushed service

I often get mediocre service in spite of generous tipping habits. Is it okay yet for me to tip less?


Yes.  When waiting tables I definitely had my off days where I was upset and distracted, and my tips suffered.  I never blamed the patrons - I was off my game.
 
2013-01-09 03:00:15 PM  

Lollipop165: whistleridge: How to tip properly, and be an awesome human being in the process (even if you do eat at Applebee's):

I've done that drunkenly... lol

My dad is old school and tips 12% although my mother and I have tried to explain to him a bazillion times that minimum is 15% and 20% is pretty expected. He freaks out and gets all angry with us when we complain about his tipping. We had wonderful service for Christmas Eve this year and I had to watch my dad to make sure he didn't leave a measilly 12%. He left 17% which is the best I could expect from him I guess. Hubby and I stayed behind after they left to have a drink and we tipped them 50% on the drinks, so hopefully we made it up a bit.

... oh, and he's pretty darn wealthy btw so this isn't a rich/poor thing


It's an oldster thing. My housemate (ex-waiter) and I usually slip a few extra bucks to the servers after their dad leaves the restaurant.
 
2013-01-09 03:00:38 PM  
Tipping is stupid.
 
2013-01-09 03:00:44 PM  
If you can't afford both the meal and the tip, go somewhere else for food. It's no excuse to be a douchebag because your guy didn't win the last election.

I hope every server who gets that card remembers him and knows in the future not to waste time providing decent service. Servers are not entitled to tips, but in a country where it is customary, not tipping should only be reserved for extreme cases of poor service. This guy planned not to tip, he deserves everything he gets if he ever dares to show his face there again.
 
2013-01-09 03:00:47 PM  
I generally tip 15-20% automatically unless service is problematic or they farked something up.
Once when eating with some tightwad coworkers, a late dinner that saw us finish as the restaurant was closing and my idiot CWs wanting dessert and after-dinner coffee, I made sure I got the bill and tipped 30% because I *knew* they'd figure down to the 15% penny.
Went out for a meal recently with an ex and some other folks, got flustered and tipped about 30%, intending for it to be for the whole table, then the others tipped too. That server hit the jackpot.

So yeah, leaving a "tip" like this guy did? Assholery to the highest order.
 
2013-01-09 03:01:18 PM  

Lollipop165: whistleridge: How to tip properly, and be an awesome human being in the process (even if you do eat at Applebee's):

I've done that drunkenly... lol

My dad is old school and tips 12% although my mother and I have tried to explain to him a bazillion times that minimum is 15% and 20% is pretty expected. He freaks out and gets all angry with us when we complain about his tipping. We had wonderful service for Christmas Eve this year and I had to watch my dad to make sure he didn't leave a measilly 12%. He left 17% which is the best I could expect from him I guess. Hubby and I stayed behind after they left to have a drink and we tipped them 50% on the drinks, so hopefully we made it up a bit.

... oh, and he's pretty darn wealthy btw so this isn't a rich/poor thing


yeah, i've had to do this before. I don't even argue with the old man any more. i just surreptitiously check the amount and wait till no one's looking to throw in enough cash to get it to 20%.

/ the worst part: it usually happens when my dad is visiting me, which means I've taken him somewhere that I really like. i will not fark up a tip where i like to eat regularly. and i live in a city with some of the best food and service in the world, and not coincidentally, the highest average tip rate (as long as you don't go to tourist traps)
// i used to try to explain to the old man that his crappy tips are going to someone just like me when i was in college. i worked in a restaurant and made shiat. he becomes sympathetic for that dinner, but forgets about it by the next time.
 
2013-01-09 03:01:45 PM  
Went out to eat at a local place, weird set up, you order up front, pay up front, food is brought out to you and you're checked on by bus staff, all staff share a tip jar. No proper waiters, and if you wanted desert, you needed to decide that up front, or pay twice kinda deal.

I rarely carry cash. If I have cash, I'll tip it all in the jar because it won't be more than $10, and if it's a big order I'll put some down on the initial card charge.

Went there the other night, didn't tip because I had a bunch of cash, by the time dinner was over I went "oh shiat yeah I've got cash for cannolis let's get some"

Paid for cannolis, dumped the rest in the jar. Miscounted the cannoli pile. Brain misfired on what to do since all cash was now gone. Slowly took a dollar back out of the change jar and handed it to the guy. Left, realized I'd managed to tip $1.60 for the entire meal in addition to pulling money out of the tip jar to cover my dessert.

Going back on the way home to buy another pair of cannoli with a $20 and put all the change in the jar to make up for it. Hope the same guy is working register.

/ COOLEST OF STORIES, BRAHS.
 
2013-01-09 03:01:46 PM  
Lately, I'm seeing tip jars at bakeries. Somehow they have it in their heads that if a clerk bags or boxes up some pastries and sells it to you, they deserve a tip. I can see giving a tip to a barista because they are actually doing some work. A bakery clerk is just handing you a thing and taking money for it.
 
2013-01-09 03:01:49 PM  
A standard tip is 15%, END OF LINE
You "20% should be the new minimum" people seriously need to man up, unionize, what the fark ever and demand an increase in pay.
Or step up your game and farking charm the pants off of some people.

The reason some of you are getting dick for tips is that you farking suck. If you fark up over and over again (or if the kitchen does and you don't take 1 minute to compare the order to the food on the plate?) well fark you, because you didn't earn jack shiat. If I have to call the manager over to take care of an issue that you couldn't help me take care of because you're texting in the back or on another smoke break? You aren't going to get that 15% and the message still won't sink in. You'll call me a lousy tipper, you'll call me a skinflint. You won't even take the time to analyze why you got a poor tip.

Sure there are assholes out there, there are cheapskates, and there are lousy ass servers. Showing up should not guarantee you a tip.

This dude? He's an asshole. The new tax is not the server's problem.

/Left a $15 tip on a $50 bill on Friday, the last time I went out to eat.
//And tip is calculate PRE-TAX fark nuts.
 
2013-01-09 03:02:14 PM  
Actually I can sort of believe this might have happened. There are seriously weird people out there, after all. I still remember how at a previous job I got a return envelope from our alumni magazine, and instead of a "don't send this again" letter or a donation or whatever there was a 3"x5" index card with death threats and racial slurs all over it. It was so freakish I should have kept it as a souvenir.
 
2013-01-09 03:02:16 PM  

Yaxe: tinyarena: [img707.imageshack.us image 270x320]

Mostly because with bills of a 2k+, there's usually a 15 grauity, meaning the guys who worked that table (including ye bus boy), are going to be splitting at 15,000 dollars.


Not in France.
 
2013-01-09 03:02:26 PM  

Rapmaster2000: TIPS means To Insure Prompt Service.  It comes from an Old English term from around 800.  That's why I don't tip unless I receive exceptional service.  If you want to make real money then you need to work out an arrangement with your boss.  Don't make me pay the wages you should demand on your own.  You know, in Europe where I go very often for business, they don't have any tips and the service is outstanding.


Shut up Mr. Pink
 
2013-01-09 03:03:02 PM  
This one time I caught attitude from some wannabe-actress waitress about the tip I left her. She'd thought that because she gave me my soup "complementary", I would reciprocate with a large tip. (Just to note: there was nothing wrong with the soup, nor did I complain about it). She was nonplussed when it turns out that I was friends with the owner of the establishment and was hired to improve loss-prevention procedures.

I understand that service industry jobs can be hard, I actually worked at a few myself. That being said, if you want to take the moral high ground and force people into tipping, than service industry employees SHOULD take the moral high ground. Stop playing games with tickets. Stop snacking and drinking gratis on the job, that's what your shift meal is for. Stop viewing a cash-paying customer as an opportunity to pad your own bottom line.

/Loss Prevention consultation isn't hard at restaurants. Nobody seems to be honest.
 
2013-01-09 03:04:04 PM  

pute kisses like a man: yeah, i've had to do this before. I don't even argue with the old man any more.


Why IS the tipping amount so high though? I mean, who is setting these rates?
 
2013-01-09 03:04:19 PM  

Egoy3k: Snarfangel: Perhaps it's just the rough biker crowd I run around with, but do women seem to leave a slightly smaller tip than men? (As in rounding down to 15% instead of rounding up to 20%.)

If the server is a woman women tip less and men tip more especially if she is young and/or attractive. I'm not sure about male servers but I suspect they don't have as much variation in their tips.


When I waited tables, I never had the same level of fluctuation that my female coworkers did, particularly the hot ones. One woman I worked with joked that she could pretty much count on exactly 15% if a woman was paying the bill and no less than 25% if a man was.
 
2013-01-09 03:04:34 PM  

kid_icarus: As an aside...Mr. Douchebag's note claimed that he had to cut back on "discretionary spending", which to most normal people would include eating out; particularly at a sit-down restaurant that will involve tipping. If you're too broke to leave a tip, you're too broke to be at the restaurant in the first place.


Meh, its Rove Brand Republican Math (TM). Like you can balance the budget by cutting the enormous budget of Sesame Street because we just can't afford that kind of extravagance, but 20 new warships will make jobs.
 
2013-01-09 03:04:50 PM  

PrivateCaboose: Yes. When waiting tables I definitely had my off days where I was upset and distracted, and my tips suffered. I never blamed the patrons - I was off my game.


Well, then I like you. You seem to have reasonable expectations of other people. No, this isn't sarcasm.

I tip well- most of the time- and I have even at times when I haven't been so well off myself. It's never been the amount that I have a problem with. It's the principle of obligating a tip.

If it's an obligation, then it's no longer gratitude, now is it? And I really do like to let people know when they've done well- with more than just words.

Can't I keep this gesture as a sacrosanct expression of sincere gratitude, or do we really need to socally codify that out of existence?
 
2013-01-09 03:04:54 PM  
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Funny how the guy who left that card says he can't afford a tip, yet he still went out to eat anyway. I guess it's also Obama's fault that he's a cheap asshole.

/if you're too cheap to tip
//then make your own damn food at home
///I tip 20%, motherf*ckers
 
2013-01-09 03:05:13 PM  

Contents Under Pressure: Lately, I'm seeing tip jars at bakeries. Somehow they have it in their heads that if a clerk bags or boxes up some pastries and sells it to you, they deserve a tip. I can see giving a tip to a barista because they are actually doing some work. A bakery clerk is just handing you a thing and taking money for it.


What about some douche-bag "bartender" who twists off a beer cap and hands you the bottle?
 
2013-01-09 03:05:48 PM  
I love the people above who are all "jerk should just cut back on eating out hurr durr", as though a restaurant which suddenly loses 15-20% of it's business -- you know, the amount of a tip when spread across the cumulative purchasing decisions of the local population -- isn't going to fire some staff, or just close. Pushing the hard decisions one level further out doesn't actually make the hard decision go away.

/It would have been funnier if the guy had just started tipping with birth control pills.
 
2013-01-09 03:05:48 PM  

PrivateCaboose: Cybernetic: If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal. Go to a damned drive thru instead.

Serious question - how much do you tip when you do an online order for takeout from a place like Nando's?


I ususlly tip 10% or so. Someone is still cooking and getting the order ready.
 
2013-01-09 03:06:41 PM  

Teaser: Tipping is stupid.


Lots of traditions are stupid. You know what's really stupid? That guy in the bathroom that hands you a towel. You're supposed to tip him. I want to know why the hell he even exists. (I like to think he's there to beat the ever-loving shiat out of anybody who pees on the seat, but the universe isn't that glorious.)

But that's how you know it's a high class place - unnecessary jobs, people being used as furniture, and lots of noblesse oblige.
 
2013-01-09 03:07:00 PM  
If you ever think a server has messed with your food. Make sure they can see you, take out a little piece of your food, and place it in a small plastic bag. When they ask what your doing, just say, 'taking a sample'.
 
2013-01-09 03:07:01 PM  
I think the real issue and best way to solve the whole tipping thing is for restaurants to pay their servers an actual wage so that they are not required to make tips just to have enough money to survive. That way tips are extra, and paid for outstanding service, not the bulk of the paycheck.

The way it is now servers are almost required to flirt, show some skin, and put up with horrible shiat with a smile just to make enough to pay a light bill.

And the farking with your food thing....my wife used to wait tables and the worst thing was a steak dropped on the floor, then picked up and served. They used to get the bus-boys to crop dust rude customers regularly though.
 
2013-01-09 03:07:11 PM  

bruegel: PrivateCaboose: Cybernetic: If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal. Go to a damned drive thru instead.

Serious question - how much do you tip when you do an online order for takeout from a place like Nando's?

I ususlly tip 10% or so. Someone is still cooking and getting the order ready.


Yeah but that's what you are paying for in the cost of the food. Tipping is for service, not food.
 
2013-01-09 03:07:17 PM  

LeroyBourne: I'm sorry customer, because of this jackarse (insert card here) we have to impose a built in 15% gratuity to your bill. If you choose to give your server any more gratuity is solely your decision. I wish this didn't have to be the way for both of us.


I'd rather have a 15% flat rate because then my 20% isn't subsidizing the other guy's 5%.
 
2013-01-09 03:07:17 PM  

Carn: OgreMagi: Last week I left my favorite watress a $60 tip on a $15 meal because it was the holiday season and I know she works much hard for less money than I do.  I always tip well.

We did that once for our waitress at dollar beer happy hour. We were there every week and our group always left awesome tips but it was the holidays or her birthday so everyone left her $20 on 5-6 beers. It was over $100 in tips. Wouldn't you know it but we always got served first and most often. We used to have to tell them to stop bringing beers because you'd be half done and she'd have the next one waiting for you. Good times.


The year before I left her a $50 tip for the holidays.  The service I got throughout the year was above and beyond expectations, although I'm still waiting for that beej.  Ok, seriously, if you are a regular someplace, doing something special tip-wise for the holidays will pay dividends for the coming year, unless you turn into a tightwad.
 
2013-01-09 03:07:18 PM  

PrivateCaboose: mcreadyblue: Radioactive Ass: California doesn't have a separate wage for food servers like most of the other states do ($8.00 an hour). As such the tips really are a gratuity for services rendered and shouldn't be used as a guilt tool to help boost the servers wage up to minimum wage like in most of the other states. The 15-20% rule shouldn't necessarily apply here the same way it does in say New York ($5.00 an hour) or Virginia ($2.13 an hour). If you're not tipping 15-20% of your bill in those states then you should feel bad because you're a bad person, In CA, NV, OR, or WA (all at or above minimum wage)... not so much.

I do tip but for me it really is a matter of service versus reasonable expectations as opposed to feeling like I'm being served by someone on slave wages and feeling guilty if I didn't leave at least 15% knowing that the IRS and the state tax board will still assume that I did and will dock their pay accordingly. I know plenty of waiters and waitresses out here that under report (by far) their tips and really don't pay their "Fair share" of taxes so I can kind of see where the customer is coming from.

That brings the question....why are the Chef's not tipped along with the waitstaff?

Because they aren't making waitserver minimum wage.  They make much more an hour.


Really? I thought Applebee's starts Chef's off at $12/hr?
 
2013-01-09 03:07:57 PM  

myspamhere: If you ever think a server has messed with your food. Make sure they can see you, take out a little piece of your food, and place it in a small plastic bag. When they ask what your doing, just say, 'taking a sample'.


I'm going to do this every time I eat out from now on.
 
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