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(WorldNetDaily)   Senator Ted Cruz (R-Tx): "Republicans should conceptualize and articulate every domestic policy with a single-minded focus on easing the ascent up the economic ladder." Because if there's anything Republicans are, it's single-minded   (wnd.com ) divider line
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2013-01-09 07:45:47 AM  
I'm not clicking any goddam WND link, but that's a pretty reasonable statement.  Facilitating economic mobility is a very worthy goal, and I can't imagine anyone being against it.   Seems undeniable that there is a metric sh*t-ton of stuff that we do as a society that makes it difficult for poor people to extract themselves from poverty.

The only nit is that much of it is done at state and local levels (like licensing barbers, preventing car and apartment sharing, etc).
 
2013-01-09 07:49:07 AM  
World Nut Wednesday?  Three links and counting.  Eat a big bowl of fetid dick, Fark mods that greenlight this sh*t.
 
2013-01-09 08:17:13 AM  

Generation_D: World Nut Wednesday?  Three links and counting.  Eat a big bowl of fetid dick, Fark mods that greenlight this sh*t.


1.) Mods don't greenlight
2.) That article is actually a pretty interesting read. The author is trying to wrap his brain around Ted Cruz, a tea-party R from Texas, advocating the GOP incorporate the philosophy of John Rawls into their economic policies. How can you talk about "fairness" and "economic equality" without being a gotdam socialist?
 
2013-01-09 08:57:00 AM  
More like "Republicans should conceptualize and articulate every domestic policy with a single-minded focus on destroying ACORN."
 
2013-01-09 09:14:53 AM  
So strong support for public education, subsidized child care, the EITC, unions, affordable health insurance...?
 
2013-01-09 09:15:17 AM  

Babwa Wawa: I'm not clicking any goddam WND link, but that's a pretty reasonable statement.  Facilitating economic mobility is a very worthy goal, and I can't imagine anyone being against it.   Seems undeniable that there is a metric sh*t-ton of stuff that we do as a society that makes it difficult for poor people to extract themselves from poverty.

The only nit is that much of it is done at state and local levels (like licensing barbers, preventing car and apartment sharing, etc).


And to add to your point, they've been talking about increasing upward mobility and middle class standard of living for 30 years. They call(ed) it "Trickle-Down Economics", and it is a load of crap. I can only assume that any "new" plans will simply be a repackaging of this philosophy.
 
2013-01-09 09:15:45 AM  

Babwa Wawa: I'm not clicking any goddam WND link, but that's a pretty reasonable statement.  Facilitating economic mobility is a very worthy goal, and I can't imagine anyone being against it.   Seems undeniable that there is a metric sh*t-ton of stuff that we do as a society that makes it difficult for poor people to extract themselves from poverty.

The only nit is that much of it is done at state and local levels (like licensing barbers, preventing car and apartment sharing, etc).


Licensing barbers keeps people shackled to poverty?
 
2013-01-09 09:16:11 AM  
Easing the ascent up the economic ladder? That's never been a Republican goal, especially not today. They're pushing for more money for those who would never run out of money already, and less for everyone else.
 
2013-01-09 09:17:50 AM  

Alphax: Easing the ascent up the economic ladder? That's never been a Republican goal, especially not today. They're pushing for more money for those who would never run out of money already, and less for everyone else.


I think he only means the portion of the ladder that leads from $1,000,000 to $1,000,000,000.
 
2013-01-09 09:18:33 AM  

Babwa Wawa: (like licensing barbers,


Maybe you're fine with a clueless stranger with a scissors right next to your head, but I'm not.
 
2013-01-09 09:18:54 AM  
"Republicans should conceptualize and articulate every domestic policy with a single-minded focus on easing the ascent of wealth up the economic ladder."
More inline with actual GOP policies...
 
2013-01-09 09:19:22 AM  
That would be a refreshing change. In other news, Hell froze over today.
 
2013-01-09 09:19:31 AM  
Single-minded? More like single-braincelled.
 
2013-01-09 09:20:16 AM  
That's the most sensible thing I've heard from a Republican in decades. Hopefully he was being sincere.
 
2013-01-09 09:20:24 AM  

Alphax: Easing the ascent up the economic ladder? That's never been a Republican goal, especially not today. They're pushing for more money for those who would never run out of money already, and less for everyone else.


Exactly. Republicans are the exact opposite of what Cruz is saying they should be. Almost every policy they espouse (with the exception of their social conservative derp) works to keep the poor as poor as possible while concentrating the wealth at the top.
 
2013-01-09 09:20:42 AM  

Alphax: Easing the ascent up the economic ladder? That's never been a Republican goal, especially not today. They're pushing for more money for those who would never run out of money already, and less for everyone else.


It is capital whose ascent they wish to ease, not the peoples'.
 
2013-01-09 09:22:15 AM  
Senator Ted Cruz (R-Tx): "Republicans should conceptualize and articulate every domestic policy with a single-minded focus on easing the ascent up the economic ladder."

Translation: MOAR TAX CUTS
 
2013-01-09 09:23:06 AM  
Sorry, Ted, the money men that own your party aren't very keen on making things easy for competition.
 
2013-01-09 09:23:15 AM  
"Republicans should conceptualize and articulate every domestic policy with a single-minded focus on easing the ascent up the economic ladder."


This man should be the future of the Republican party if they want to save themselves from becoming a laughingstock that never holds a national-level office again.

Assuming he actually means what he says and intends to follow through with policy proposals that will actually achieve that goal instead of just more tax cuts for the rich and slashing spending by cutting medicare and social security.
 
2013-01-09 09:24:02 AM  
Compassionate Conservatism II:  Electric Boogaloo
 
2013-01-09 09:24:36 AM  

Alphax: Easing the ascent up the economic ladder? That's never been a Republican goal, especially not today. They're pushing for more money for those who would never run out of money already, and less for everyone else.


Not a goal, no, but it has been a stated effect of their policies since God was a boy. I haven't seen any actual evidence that the policies have that effect, mind you, but I see this all the time:

Republican ideas are the only thing that can help people get out of poverty! Because we believe in bootstraps and if you don't vote for us then you always want to be on the dole.
 
2013-01-09 09:24:58 AM  
Let me guess:

1) Increase taxes on the poor
2) Lower taxes on the rich
3) Eliminate programs that benefit the poor
4) Lower taxes on companies with huge profits
5) All-out attack on abortion rights
6) Be sure the mentally ill have access to semi-automatic weapons to kill children with
6) Climate change denialism
7) Science denialism
 
2013-01-09 09:25:51 AM  

12349876: Babwa Wawa: (like licensing barbers,

Maybe you're fine with a clueless stranger with a scissors right next to your head, but I'm not.


He also seems to think that we need a significant amount more barbers. Maybe it's just where I live, but I can't remember the last time I waited more than 5 minutes at a barber shop.
 
MFK
2013-01-09 09:26:21 AM  

dugitman: Generation_D: World Nut Wednesday?  Three links and counting.  Eat a big bowl of fetid dick, Fark mods that greenlight this sh*t.

1.) Mods don't greenlight
2.) That article is actually a pretty interesting read. The author is trying to wrap his brain around Ted Cruz, a tea-party R from Texas, advocating the GOP incorporate the philosophy of John Rawls into their economic policies. How can you talk about "fairness" and "economic equality" without being a gotdam socialist?


well too bad I will never find out. I really don't understand how a site can herp the derp on a geological scale and still expect to be taken seriously by anyone. WND is a site specifically designed to separate rubes from their money using lies.

No thanks.
 
2013-01-09 09:26:46 AM  
So make abortion easily available. Having a kid does nothing to ease the ascent up the economic ladder.
 
2013-01-09 09:27:35 AM  

ghare: Let me guess:

1) Increase taxes on the poor
2) Lower taxes on the rich
3) Eliminate programs that benefit the poor
4) Lower taxes on companies with huge profits
4a) Increase subsidies for companies with huge profits
5) All-out attack on abortion rights
6) Be sure the mentally ill have access to semi-automatic weapons to kill children with
6) Climate change denialism
7) Science denialism

Missed one
 
2013-01-09 09:28:50 AM  
I keep hearing this. After their defeat in the election, Republicans want to reinvent themselves as the party of class mobility. Since their whole mission is to allow corporations to hemorrhage ever last nickel from our pockets, I'm a little skeptical.
 
2013-01-09 09:30:21 AM  
Apparently, the GOP idea of easing the ascent up the ladder is to make sure that you keep working into your 70s.  That gives you more time to get promotions.
 
2013-01-09 09:31:29 AM  
It is WND so he likely said we are going to focus on the providing a path for folks to climb the economic ladder but then left off the part about how they should climb that ladder to go back over the border fence.

//Refuse to click on WND like most sane people
 
2013-01-09 09:32:32 AM  
I think subby misspelled "simple".
 
2013-01-09 09:32:40 AM  
Here's the GOP plan for economic mobility in a box:

math.byu.edu
 
2013-01-09 09:33:45 AM  
Republicans don't give a flying fark about anyone's economic success except their own...and maybe their sugar daddy benefactors. This is just more lip service to keep the rubes voting Republican because the moneybaggers believe there is still a buck to be made on the dying shell that is the US.
 
2013-01-09 09:35:52 AM  

MFK: dugitman: Generation_D: World Nut Wednesday?  Three links and counting.  Eat a big bowl of fetid dick, Fark mods that greenlight this sh*t.

1.) Mods don't greenlight
2.) That article is actually a pretty interesting read. The author is trying to wrap his brain around Ted Cruz, a tea-party R from Texas, advocating the GOP incorporate the philosophy of John Rawls into their economic policies. How can you talk about "fairness" and "economic equality" without being a gotdam socialist?

well too bad I will never find out. I really don't understand how a site can herp the derp on a geological scale and still expect to be taken seriously by anyone. WND is a site specifically designed to separate rubes from their money using lies.

No thanks.


It is often claimed that the far right lives in a bubble..........
 
2013-01-09 09:35:52 AM  

karmaceutical: Babwa Wawa: I'm not clicking any goddam WND link, but that's a pretty reasonable statement.  Facilitating economic mobility is a very worthy goal, and I can't imagine anyone being against it.   Seems undeniable that there is a metric sh*t-ton of stuff that we do as a society that makes it difficult for poor people to extract themselves from poverty.

The only nit is that much of it is done at state and local levels (like licensing barbers, preventing car and apartment sharing, etc).

Licensing barbers keeps people shackled to poverty?


State and local government "licensing cartels" have a long history and have been on the rise in recent years, and it is a severe form of rent-seeking behavior that few people know about because nobody pays attention to local issues. Simply put, states pass more and more licensing requirements for jobs that really don't need it. You have florists, masseuses, barbers, and others who have to not only pass classes for a license but often have to complete hundreds of hours worth of practice through an already licensed business. The problem is that these requirements always grandfather in older tradesmen, and as a result the only way to get a job in the field is if the state sanctioned monopoly/oligopoly firms hire you. Some training should be required, but saying that you need to increase the barriers to entry to the field because of shoddy performance by the market only to say regulations don't cover the people who caused the need for government intervention is insane.

And yes: if Ted Cruz is serious about this, he needs to look into what policies are most strongly linked to high intergenerational mobility. Hint: the methods of expanding the economy the Tea Party advocates is linked to stronger class divisions.
 
2013-01-09 09:36:43 AM  

zappaisfrank: Republicans don't give a flying fark about anyone's economic success except their own...and maybe their sugar daddy benefactors. This is just more lip service to keep the rubes voting Republican because the moneybaggers believe there is still a buck to be made on the dying shell that is the US.


And it fits perfectly with their political assertion that anyone that votes for "the other side" is against upward mobility, while giving All of the Handouts to benefit of the lazy brown poors.
 
2013-01-09 09:38:23 AM  
"We should assess policy with a Rawlsian lens, asking how it affects those least well-off among us. We should champion the 47 percent," he wrote.

Burn the witch!
 
2013-01-09 09:39:07 AM  

vernonFL: More like "Republicans should conceptualize and articulate every domestic policy with a single-minded focus on destroying ACORN."


lol pretty much.
 
2013-01-09 09:39:50 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: So strong support for public education, subsidized child care, the EITC, unions, affordable health insurance...?


I'm thinking mandatory trans-vaginal ultrasounds, more regulations on the size of broom closets at family planning clinics, background checks on gays adopting pets, and everyone is required to get a tattoo of the baby Jesus on their ass. Also, probably, a Constitutional amendment against sharia law. Laser-like focus.
 
2013-01-09 09:43:04 AM  

jayhawk88: "We should assess policy with a Rawlsian lens, asking how it affects those least well-off among us. We should champion the 47 percent," he wrote.

Burn the witch!


Why does he not just become a Democrat? Because he damn sure can't get through any Republican primary with that attitude.
 
2013-01-09 09:48:44 AM  

Citrate1007: It is often claimed that the far right lives in a bubble..........


Seeking alternate or opposing opinion is a good thing. However, reading WND is more akin to "Looks like shiat. Smells like shiat. Tastes like shiat. Good thing we didn't step in it".
 
2013-01-09 09:49:33 AM  

someonelse: Philip Francis Queeg: So strong support for public education, subsidized child care, the EITC, unions, affordable health insurance...?

I'm thinking mandatory trans-vaginal ultrasounds, more regulations on the size of broom closets at family planning clinics, background checks on gays adopting pets, and everyone is required to get a tattoo of the baby Jesus on their ass. Also, probably, a Constitutional amendment against sharia law. Laser-like focus.


Lasers are focused? I always got the impression that the "focus like a laser beam" was an expression the use of which indicated a conservative inclination. Am I wrong?
 
2013-01-09 09:49:48 AM  
We are Borg Republicans we will improve the economy.

We are Borg Republicans we will improve the economy but first we need to make sure the women don't use their girl parts in in moral ways.

We are Borg Republicans we will improve the economy but first the wrong kind of people want to marry

We are Borg Republicans we will improve the economy POT! some on wants to smoke a dubbie

When the economy is the subject they talk a good talk but when it comes to doing something they tend to get side tract
 
2013-01-09 09:53:20 AM  

ghare: jayhawk88: "We should assess policy with a Rawlsian lens, asking how it affects those least well-off among us. We should champion the 47 percent," he wrote.

Burn the witch!

Why does he not just become a Democrat? Because he damn sure can't get through any Republican primary with that attitude.


Ted Cruz spent his first week in congress railing about how socialist "Obamacare" is, attacking Obama for trying to grab guns, and saying that Obama is drunk on his own power for thinking he could nominate radicals like Chuck Hagel to the Defense Department.

Notice he didn't outline what policies will help the 47%; I have no doubt he feels that them "having skin in the game" through a higher tax burden, limit their access to public services, and pushing policies that benefit the upper class will make being poor less desirable and being rich more desirable. That's the motivation the poor need to succeed, and he cares enough to advocate it.
 
2013-01-09 09:54:22 AM  
Great idea.  As nearly every study shows, the best way to climb the economic ladder is through higher education, so let's start providing that free of charge to all students who show the potential to succeed in college.  Of course, we'll probably have to cut some defense spending and corporate welfare to raise the funds, but those things aren't moving people up the ladder, so it's a no-brainer.

I'm going to like this new Republican philosophy.
 
2013-01-09 09:57:49 AM  

More_Like_A_Stain: Citrate1007: It is often claimed that the far right lives in a bubble..........

Seeking alternate or opposing opinion is a good thing. However, reading WND is more akin to "Looks like shiat. Smells like shiat. Tastes like shiat. Good thing we didn't step in it".


I try not to click on the obvious propaganda sites, so as not to reward their advertisers. My father did click on a WND link the other day, and was astounded by the crazy.
 
2013-01-09 09:58:33 AM  

Babwa Wawa: I'm not clicking any goddam WND link, but that's a pretty reasonable statement. Facilitating economic mobility is a very worthy goal, and I can't imagine anyone being against it. Seems undeniable that there is a metric sh*t-ton of stuff that we do as a society that makes it difficult for poor people to extract themselves from poverty.


Of course it sounds reasonable. Which is why the author then spent the rest of the article trying to figure out how this Tea Party giant had been seduced into redistributionist socialism.
 
2013-01-09 09:58:50 AM  
You need to parse what he said carefully, and bear in mind how old hamhead would have said it. See, what he's actually saying is that they should understand (conceptualize) policies that enhance upward economic mobility. Then, they should incorporate them into their talking points (articulate). He doesn't say they should implement them, just talk about how that's what they are doing, while carrying out the same policies they've been touting since at least Reagan, if not Nixon. You know, lie.
 
2013-01-09 09:59:36 AM  

born_yesterday: zappaisfrank: Republicans don't give a flying fark about anyone's economic success except their own...and maybe their sugar daddy benefactors. This is just more lip service to keep the rubes voting Republican because the moneybaggers believe there is still a buck to be made on the dying shell that is the US.

And it fits perfectly with their political assertion that anyone that votes for "the other side" is against upward mobility, while giving All of the Handouts to benefit of the lazy brown poors.


One of my right wing friends claims that Democrats WANT to keep people poor and dependent upon "handouts" from the government to secure their voting base. He actually said "when your voting base is poor people, what is your incentive to make them unpoor, because if they were unpoor, they'd be Republicans!"

It amazes me sometimes how circular logic works so well on otherwise seemingly intelligent people.
 
2013-01-09 09:59:57 AM  

Karac: Babwa Wawa: I'm not clicking any goddam WND link, but that's a pretty reasonable statement. Facilitating economic mobility is a very worthy goal, and I can't imagine anyone being against it. Seems undeniable that there is a metric sh*t-ton of stuff that we do as a society that makes it difficult for poor people to extract themselves from poverty.

Of course it sounds reasonable. Which is why the author then spent the rest of the article trying to figure out how this Tea Party giant had been seduced into redistributionist socialism.


He has to be gunning for 2016.
 
2013-01-09 10:00:13 AM  

More_Like_A_Stain: Citrate1007: It is often claimed that the far right lives in a bubble..........

Seeking alternate or opposing opinion is a good thing. However, reading WND is more akin to "Looks like shiat. Smells like shiat. Tastes like shiat. Good thing we didn't step in it".


While that is normally true, it is mostly quoting a Republican that is trying to infuse some sense of social responsibility back into the derposphere of the GOP platform. An attempt to remind them that they never used to farking demonize the poor, but used to be the party that spoke of upward mobility....and actually attempted to create policies that fostered such.
 
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