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2013-01-09 08:56:35 AM  
But it's got what plants crave!
 
2013-01-09 08:56:48 AM  
In fact, it's a little bit too much in you.
 
2013-01-09 08:57:17 AM  
I used to drink lots of gatorade...
 
2013-01-09 08:58:50 AM  
This just in: Gatorade is a replacement for nothing and is not actually good for you.
 
2013-01-09 09:00:15 AM  
On the plus side, since it's a flame retardant your insides won't catch fire.
 
2013-01-09 09:00:40 AM  
You'll have to pry my Gatorade from my cold, dead hands.

Sure, it's not good for you, but it's better than soda.
 
2013-01-09 09:02:14 AM  

Walker: On the plus side, since it's a flame retardant your insides won't catch fire.


All things in moderation. I don't think anyone can argue that a little bit of not catching fire is a bad thing.
 
2013-01-09 09:02:14 AM  
Gaaaaaaatoorrrraaaaaaaade.....

I asked my chem teacher about BVO in the mid 90s. His answer? "Halogenated hydrocarbons... no, no I don't think I'd drink that."
 
2013-01-09 09:03:18 AM  
I'm rushing to believe an article based off of the findings of a 15 year old self-proclaimed vegan on the Mother Nature Network.

LITERALLY RUSHING TO BELIEVE.
 
2013-01-09 09:04:01 AM  

John Napkintosh: Walker: On the plus side, since it's a flame retardant your insides won't catch fire.

All things in moderation. I don't think anyone can argue that a little bit of not catching fire is a bad thing.


What with the ever-present danger of spontaneous combustion, it behooves us to take precautionary anti-fire measures.
 
2013-01-09 09:04:06 AM  
OMG CHEMICALS!!!111ONE!!!!

ABANDON ALL CONTEXT, DO INTERNET "RESEARCH" AND FLIP THE FARK OUT AT SCHOOL!
/self-important teenage vegan = so much fail
 
2013-01-09 09:05:03 AM  
Also, these inane online petitions are a good reminder of why we have a representative government.
 
2013-01-09 09:05:35 AM  

A Shambling Mound: This just in: Gatorade is a replacement for nothing and is not actually good for you.


Meh, I've read somewhere that the HFCS is actually more efficient for replenishing glycogen quickly (or something) than sucrose or straight glucose, and electrolyte replacement is important if you're doing strenuous exercise for a fairly long period of time (and hence sweating a LOT). However, 99% of the people swilling gatorade while they treadmill or bro-pump at the gym, or drinking it because they like the taste and aren't actually doing ANY exercise, are just loading up with a butt-ton of extra sugar and salt they absolutely don't need.
 
2013-01-09 09:06:23 AM  
Stopped reading at "I'm a vegan".
 
2013-01-09 09:07:02 AM  
Sarah, tell me a little about the day you discovered BVO.
I'm a vegan


Stopped reading when the derp came out.
 
2013-01-09 09:08:19 AM  
From the NYT article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/business/another-look-at-a-drink-in g redient-brominated-vegetable-oil.html?_r=0

Link

She's the picture of health. Just imagine this whiny 15 year old droning on and on about how much healthier she is than everyone else in between talking about Justin Bieber and Twilight.

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-01-09 09:08:51 AM  
cdn.faniq.com
 
2013-01-09 09:09:35 AM  
do astronauts drink it?
 
2013-01-09 09:09:40 AM  

Quickmatch: Stopped reading at "I'm a vegan".


Yep.

Also:

www.massnutrition.com
Yummm...
 
2013-01-09 09:10:16 AM  
Gatorade blows. Cytomax is way better.
 
2013-01-09 09:10:21 AM  

PirateKing: But it's got what plants crave!


It's got electrolytes!
 
2013-01-09 09:10:21 AM  
FTFA: Sarah, tell me a little about the day you discovered BVO.
I'm a vegan


Yeah, sorry, if you're on a diet that requires supplementation just to stay some level of healthy, you may be doing it wrong.

Next up: vegans forcing lions to only eat arugula and tofu because the poor antelope might suffer from being killed and eaten.
 
2013-01-09 09:10:52 AM  

topcon: Also, these inane online petitions are a good reminder of why we have a representative government.


To tell the idiots to run along and play in traffic so the grown-ups can talk?

I wish they would do a better job of that.
 
2013-01-09 09:10:55 AM  

that was my nickname in highschool: Quickmatch: Stopped reading at "I'm a vegan".

Yep.

Also:

[www.massnutrition.com image 250x250]
Yummm...


*Shakes fist*
 
2013-01-09 09:11:02 AM  

incendi: A Shambling Mound: This just in: Gatorade is a replacement for nothing and is not actually good for you.

Meh, I've read somewhere that the HFCS is actually more efficient for replenishing glycogen quickly (or something) than sucrose or straight glucose, and electrolyte replacement is important if you're doing strenuous exercise for a fairly long period of time (and hence sweating a LOT). However, 99% of the people swilling gatorade while they treadmill or bro-pump at the gym, or drinking it because they like the taste and aren't actually doing ANY exercise, are just loading up with a butt-ton of extra sugar and salt they absolutely don't need.


True. This lecture explains why.
 
2013-01-09 09:11:47 AM  

topcon: From the NYT article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/business/another-look-at-a-drink-in g redient-brominated-vegetable-oil.html?_r=0

Link

She's the picture of health. Just imagine this whiny 15 year old droning on and on about how much healthier she is than everyone else in between talking about Justin Bieber and Twilight.

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 600x370]


I wonder if she realizes that water is also a flame retardant chemical. Or that eating a vegan diet while still developing can be very dangerous if not planned and executed extremely well, which she and her silly parents are probably not doing.
 
2013-01-09 09:12:34 AM  

Walker: On the plus side, since it's a flame retardant your insides won't catch fire.


God, I hate when that happens!
 
2013-01-09 09:12:47 AM  

LazarusLong42: You'll have to pry my Gatorade from my cold, dead hands.

Sure, it's not good for you, but it's better than soda.


I switched to Gatorade after quitting drinking all soda/caffeine, turned out something about the soda or caffeine was really screwing with my health.

I drink tons of orange gatorade and never noticed anything bad from it though I recently switched to the powder one cause it's cheaper.. lucky for me, no BVO in that one to make me retarded or whatever it does.
 
2013-01-09 09:14:15 AM  

Nogale: John Napkintosh: Walker: On the plus side, since it's a flame retardant your insides won't catch fire.

All things in moderation. I don't think anyone can argue that a little bit of not catching fire is a bad thing.

What with the ever-present danger of spontaneous combustion, it behooves us to take precautionary anti-fire measures.


I feel bad for kids whose parents don't make them drink it. It's like they don't even care about whether or not they'll catch on fire.
 
2013-01-09 09:15:40 AM  
But what about the dihydrogen monixide they put in that there Gaterade? Farking chemicals, man!
 
2013-01-09 09:15:45 AM  
Cut the Ad hominem attacks, fellows. Yeah she's a vegan, yeah she's a teenager. She's probably self important and annoying...

But that doesn't make what she's saying wrong.

Here in the western world, it is really easy to get all the nutrition you need on a vegan diet. And she's probably got the best cardiovascular health in all of Mississippi.
 
2013-01-09 09:16:17 AM  

xanadian: Next up: vegans forcing lions to only eat arugula and tofu because the poor antelope might suffer from being killed and eaten.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-09 09:16:30 AM  
I have no idea if I am more impressed by her scientific research, her committment to vegan living, or her mastery of eye makeup by the age of 15.
 
2013-01-09 09:16:42 AM  
Monoxide, even.
 
2013-01-09 09:16:45 AM  

topcon: She's the picture of health. Just imagine this whiny 15 year old droning on and on about how much healthier she is than everyone else in between talking about Justin Bieber and Twilight.


i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-01-09 09:19:48 AM  
Or, you could just drink water.
 
2013-01-09 09:21:32 AM  
skin lesions, memory loss and nerve disorders.. And those aren't even the side effects yet!
 
2013-01-09 09:22:07 AM  

vinniethepoo: But what about the dihydrogen monixide they put in that there Gaterade? Farking chemicals, man!


I know, that one is used as a chemical extinguishing agent in large buildings all over the world. It's obscene that someone would think it's appropriate to put it in a beverage!
 
2013-01-09 09:22:10 AM  

topcon: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/business/another-look-at-a-drink-in g redient-brominated-vegetable-oil.html?_r=0


Seriously?
That's HER???

 I thought veganism was supposed to make you skinny.
 
2013-01-09 09:22:59 AM  

Quickmatch: Stopped reading at "I'm a vegan".


Came here to say this.
 
2013-01-09 09:23:08 AM  
I has affected my short term memory loss AND my short term memory loss.
 
2013-01-09 09:23:13 AM  

doczoidberg: I thought veganism was supposed to make you skinny.


Can't eat meat, but you can slurp down all the HFCS you damned well please.
 
2013-01-09 09:24:28 AM  

that was my nickname in highschool: Quickmatch: Stopped reading at "I'm a vegan".

Yep.

Also:

[www.massnutrition.com image 250x250]
Yummm...


that's what I drink for my long bike rides... it works.
 
2013-01-09 09:27:09 AM  

doczoidberg: topcon: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/business/another-look-at-a-drink-in g redient-brominated-vegetable-oil.html?_r=0

Seriously?
That's HER???

 I thought veganism was supposed to make you skinny.


some of the chunkiest people I know are vegans. All those soy products are bound to stick to your ribs
 
2013-01-09 09:27:37 AM  
"Sarah Kavanagh isn't your ordinary 15-year-old. Sure, the Hattiesburg High School sophomore rides the bus to school..."

Either the writer is being cute, or has no idea whatsoever of how teens are today.  No self-respecting modern sophisticated 15-year-old will ride a bus.  She would ride to school in her 22-year-old boyfriend's Mustang.
 
2013-01-09 09:28:34 AM  

vudukungfu: Or, you could just drink water.


Fark that! I'm not drinking anything that fish poop in.
 
2013-01-09 09:29:44 AM  
BEST FLAVOR EVER!
i26.photobucket.com

/Apparently since you sweat in your sleep you need a morning Gatorade to replenish you!
 
2013-01-09 09:29:47 AM  

incendi: doczoidberg: I thought veganism was supposed to make you skinny.

Can't eat meat, but you can slurp down all the HFCS you damned well please.


I once went through a phase where I pretty much lived on rice and Cap'n Crunch. I would joke that I had become a vegetarian by default, and it is hilarious how many people equate that with being really healthy. There are a lot of assumptions that "not eating meat" equals "fresh vegetables and lots of tofu".
 
2013-01-09 09:30:54 AM  
My cousin is super fat (like 5'5 and 250 pounds fat) and she's been a vegan since she was a teenager in the late 80's / early 90's. She was into any popular counter-culture shiat she could shovel down her throat, you know, like, MTV level counter culture shiat. She probably owned a Che Guevara t-shirt before anyone else did, in XXXL.

Nothing stopping you from belting down the sugary junkfoods as a vegan, and junk carbs like pasta and bread.
 
2013-01-09 09:32:12 AM  
Pfft. These farkin amateurs. I scrape all the black crud off the inside of my BBQ pit, add water, shake, make Manorade.

Wait! That sounds disturbing. How about Firemeatwater? All Natural!

/is there something in my teeth?
 
2013-01-09 09:32:55 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-09 09:36:09 AM  
This just in -- too much of anything is bad for you.

/I hear it has dihydrogen monoxide in it too -- that stuff will kill you if you drink too much
 
2013-01-09 09:39:15 AM  
You might be drinking too much Gatorade if it leaves you with skin lesions, memory loss and nerve disorders

"too much" == 8 liters daily, according to wiki. Assuming you have "a higher than normal sensitivity to bromine", of course.
 
2013-01-09 09:40:39 AM  

A Shambling Mound: This just in: Gatorade is a replacement for nothing and is not actually good for you.


Hungover PrivateCaboose would disagree with you.
 
2013-01-09 09:41:19 AM  
brominated just means its bro approved.
 
2013-01-09 09:42:00 AM  
I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.
 
2013-01-09 09:45:51 AM  

maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.


I'm glad you always have that crap on hand.  The rest of us will continue to drink Blue Gatorade, otherwise known as Best Gatorade.
 
2013-01-09 09:51:36 AM  

Onkel Buck: /Apparently since you sweat in your sleep you need a morning Gatorade to replenish you!


I spent Summers for a few years living in college dorms in New England. These were buildings engineered to hold heat. For at least two months out of the year I would consistently wake up in a pool of my own juices every morning and the battle was always to re-hydrate and caffeinate at the same time.

Iced Coffee was good. Iced Tea did alot more though.

/miserable gig
 
2013-01-09 09:56:14 AM  

The Face Of Oblivion: OMG CHEMICALS!!!111ONE!!!!

ABANDON ALL CONTEXT, DO INTERNET "RESEARCH" AND FLIP THE FARK OUT AT SCHOOL!
/self-important teenage vegan = so much fail


You sound like a self important teenager.
 
2013-01-09 10:05:22 AM  

maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.


Does it settle out (as some particles are different sizes) or can you just give it a good shake and it works?
 
2013-01-09 10:06:13 AM  

Skarekrough: For at least two months out of the year I would consistently wake up in a pool of my own juices


Giggle
 
2013-01-09 10:06:54 AM  

rogue_L_chick: incendi: doczoidberg: I thought veganism was supposed to make you skinny.

Can't eat meat, but you can slurp down all the HFCS you damned well please.

I once went through a phase where I pretty much lived on rice and Cap'n Crunch. I would joke that I had become a vegetarian by default, and it is hilarious how many people equate that with being really healthy. There are a lot of assumptions that "not eating meat" equals "fresh vegetables and lots of tofu".


I have a friend who became a vegetarian in his early twenties because he felt bad about eating animals. He lived on chips and diet pepsi pretty much. Had the only diagnosed case of scurvy I have ever heard of in modern times. He had to learn about eating healthy even though he was already a vegetarian.
 
2013-01-09 10:08:13 AM  
www.premiumhollywood.com
 
2013-01-09 10:10:08 AM  

maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.


You mean, other than the BHA in the Kool-Aid, right?
 
2013-01-09 10:10:26 AM  

maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.


I keep this in a mason jar
i26.photobucket.com
grows in dirt, no weird chemicals, never get a hangover
/sour diesel for the heads that want to know
 
2013-01-09 10:11:09 AM  
I'm a vegan...

And that's where I stopped reading.
 
2013-01-09 10:13:51 AM  
Don't forget the possibility of eventual edema and acities from the sodium.
 
2013-01-09 10:14:19 AM  
pivazena:

maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.

Does it settle out (as some particles are different sizes) or can you just give it a good shake and it works?


A good shake mixes it just fine. The only problem I've seen is if it's really humid when you mix it it can cake on the bottom of the container. I figure that's a small price to pay to avoid bromilated whateverthefark to prevent caking.
 
2013-01-09 10:18:57 AM  
I usualy will drink water all day at work. When I get home ill usually have a small glass of gatorade. I dont seem tio have any ill effects. Whose pants did I just pee? How did I get here?
 
2013-01-09 10:22:02 AM  
If you're drinking 16 liters of f*cking soda a day you have bigger problems than brominated vegetable oil.
 
2013-01-09 10:25:15 AM  
HeartBurnKid:

maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.

You mean, other than the BHA in the Kool-Aid, right?


That is a point, although Gatorade also has BHA in it... As well as the bromine compound in the article, HFCS, etc etc.

I've also made my recipe with lemon juice instead of kool-aid as a flavoring, so if you want to be a real purist that'd be one route. I wouldn't doubt that someone somewhere is selling "all natural" powdered drink mix as well.

Onkel Buck:

I keep this in a mason jar
i26.photobucket.com
grows in dirt, no weird chemicals, never get a hangover
/sour diesel for the heads that want to know


Probably not terribly effective against cottonmouth though.
 
2013-01-09 10:26:54 AM  
"I'm a vegan..."
tl;dr
 
2013-01-09 10:28:41 AM  

topcon: I'm rushing to believe an article based off of the findings of a 15 year old self-proclaimed vegan on the Mother Nature Network.


Why did she say that she was a vegan? WTF does that have to do with anything. :(
 
2013-01-09 10:30:13 AM  

spawn73: topcon: I'm rushing to believe an article based off of the findings of a 15 year old self-proclaimed vegan on the Mother Nature Network.

Why did she say that she was a vegan? WTF does that have to do with anything. :(



Vegans always want you to know they're vegans.

If it didn't make them feel special, there'd be no reason to be a vegan at all.
 
2013-01-09 10:30:48 AM  

topcon: I'm rushing to believe an article based off of the findings of a 15 year old self-proclaimed vegan on the Mother Nature Network.

LITERALLY RUSHING TO BELIEVE.


Nice ad hom on a teenager for no other reason.
 
2013-01-09 10:32:36 AM  

Walker: On the plus side, since it's a flame retardant your insides won't catch fire.



Gatorade ruined my plans for self-imolation.
 
2013-01-09 10:34:04 AM  
Just leave it on the store shelf and move on.  Too damn expensive compared to water anyway.

Next up?
 
2013-01-09 10:34:15 AM  
Why do they need a bizarre chemical like Brominated Vegetable Oil? Can't they just use good old-fashioned Glycerol Ester of Wood Rosin like normal folks?
 
2013-01-09 10:35:40 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

Leave Pepsico and the FDA alone!
 
2013-01-09 10:36:26 AM  

Marcintosh: Just leave it on the store shelf and move on.  Too damn expensive compared to water anyway.

Next up?



Is it in my beer?
 
2013-01-09 10:37:56 AM  
I just happen to have a gatorade in my fridge, I looked at the ingredients and did not see BVO listed.
I don't know what the article is harping about, unless this is a secret ingredient that nobody knows about.
 
2013-01-09 10:40:33 AM  
An argument for plain water.
 
2013-01-09 10:42:11 AM  

Amos Quito: Gatorade ruined my plans for self-imolation.


damnit AQ, why aren't you in a nuclear physics program somewhere? you're one smart and funny bastard.
 
2013-01-09 10:42:18 AM  

Onkel Buck: maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.

I keep this in a mason jar

grows in dirt, no weird chemicals, never get a hangover
/sour diesel for the heads that want to know


How YOU doin'?
 
2013-01-09 10:43:16 AM  
as qualified as this 15 year old, vegan, future linguistics major is to speak, Gatorade already has the same products sold in other countries without BVO. Its not like changing it would force gatorade to reformulate their drinks. They just have to manufacture the formula without BVO.

Also, the cases of people affected by BVO were drinking an absurd amount. One of which has a preexisitng sensitivity to bromide. So take it as you will.
 
2013-01-09 10:43:53 AM  

killiemary: I just happen to have a gatorade in my fridge, I looked at the ingredients and did not see BVO listed.
I don't know what the article is harping about, unless this is a secret ingredient that nobody knows about.


From the article it sounds like it is only in orange Gatorade.
 
2013-01-09 10:49:02 AM  
Purple Gatorade..Green Poop..Science!
 
2013-01-09 10:50:21 AM  

Sweet Zombi Jesus: From the article it sounds like it is only in orange Gatorade.


It's in pretty much all the bottled drinks that are cloudy. Mountain Dew was one of the first that people started complaining about it in.
 
2013-01-09 10:55:04 AM  
 
2013-01-09 11:00:19 AM  
Not to mention it has KCl which is what you use in lethal injections to stop the heart!!!!
 
2013-01-09 11:04:16 AM  
graphics8.nytimes.com

Keri Russell really let herself go
 
2013-01-09 11:08:43 AM  

hbk72777: Keri Russell really let herself go


All natural grizzle on that one. One scoop of that sweet organic lard would be enough to fry dozen rutabagas
 
2013-01-09 11:16:31 AM  
But its got electrolytes...

media.avclub.com
 
2013-01-09 11:17:38 AM  

protectyourlimbs: But its got electrolytes...

[media.avclub.com image 627x352]


Dammit, I want my thirst mutilated!!!
 
2013-01-09 11:19:30 AM  

PirateKing: But it's got what plants crave!


damb itz.. I gotta stop just skimming for pics... Weeners...
 
2013-01-09 11:21:12 AM  
For those interested in the chemistry behind BVOs, this article is good.
 
2013-01-09 11:21:49 AM  
ok, its been awhile... why did it change the words "Weeners" into "weeners"?
 
2013-01-09 11:22:40 AM  
evil... it even knows when i use a hyphen.. f i r s t c o m m e n t
 
2013-01-09 11:32:31 AM  

Sweet Zombi Jesus: killiemary: I just happen to have a gatorade in my fridge, I looked at the ingredients and did not see BVO listed.
I don't know what the article is harping about, unless this is a secret ingredient that nobody knows about.

From the article it sounds like it is only in orange Gatorade.


Oh........The one I have says "G Series Fruit Punch"
I don't drink it. I bought it because it was cheaper than Pedialyte when my dog was sick.
 
2013-01-09 11:38:49 AM  

incendi: However, 99% of the people swilling gatorade while they treadmill or bro-pump at the gym, or drinking it because they like the taste and aren't actually doing ANY exercise, are just loading up with a butt-ton of extra sugar and salt they absolutely don't need.


They've actually done research on this stuff. The original Gatorade had like half the sugar* and tasted nasty unless you needed it.

When do you need it? After at least an hour of vigorous cardiovascular exercise, enough to cause heavy sweating. In most areas we're talking about levels of sweat sufficient that you could wring it out of your shirt. Some exceptions for extremely dry climates apply, of course.

Then it went public, people didn't like it, and the company ended up adding a huge amount of extra sugar: Today most sports organizations that serve it cut it at least 50% with water.

*Speaking as a dietary term: HFCS, sugar, sucrose, glucose all qualify.
 
2013-01-09 11:44:07 AM  
I used to drink waaaay too much soft drinks. I quit, and now I'm healthier. Perhaps the Gatorade addict should try some moderation? Yeah right, that's crazy talk.
 
2013-01-09 12:16:17 PM  
why are people so against drinking water? i've never understood why people choose to drink sugar.
 
2013-01-09 12:20:42 PM  
BVO may not be in use today as a flame retardant in furniture foam, Because of health hazards. http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/news/2011/brominated-battl e -in-sodas

Alternatives have been used successfully in Europe for decades, but US soda makers insist on BVO, mainly because changing over would hit their bottom line. So, I guess it's still OK -- as has been a long time tradition with major corporations -- to sicken and possibly kill a percentage of your consumers.

The FDA used to be a powerful entity, but over the last couple of decades, it seems that corporations have managed to quietly corrupt it. This came to my attention with the deliberate misinformation of trans-fats, used to 'replace' cholesterol in products like margarine. I wondered why bags of snacks declaring they were cholesterol free always had this tiny 800 number on them, directing you to the company for full information if you were on a strict cholesterol free diet.

Call it and you found that the snacks did have trans-fats which turned into cholesterol once consumed.

It took quite some time before the FDA did anything about that.

Apparently, food additives don't have to go through the rigorous 5 to 8 years testing drugs do before being given to the public. I don't know for sure.

Though, I do know that a whole lot of folks have to be sickened or killed before an additive is reluctantly taken off the market. It was actually easier, years ago, to make the companies stop using lead solder in their cans and switch to lining steel ones. (Some of you might not have ever actually seen a 'tin' can since most are aluminum now and extruded, not pressed, shaped and soldered.)

It kind of makes you wonder, just what type of company man first looked at BVO insulation and decided, 'wow! We can used that as an additive to our soft drinks.'
 
2013-01-09 12:23:40 PM  

chairmenmeow47: i've never understood why people choose to drink sugar.


Base instincts gone wrong. Our metabolisms haven't fully adjusted to a world in which (for us lucky Americans at least) caloric scarcity isn't really a thing anymore.
 
2013-01-09 12:24:56 PM  

chairmenmeow47: why are people so against drinking water? i've never understood why people choose to drink sugar.


Base instincts gone wrong. Our metabolisms haven't really adapted to a world in which (for us lucky Americans, at least) caloric scarcity isn't really a thing anymore.
 
2013-01-09 12:26:46 PM  
My internet appears to be slightly broken :(
 
2013-01-09 12:29:25 PM  

Firethorn: When do you need it? After at least an hour of vigorous cardiovascular exercise, enough to cause heavy sweating. In most areas we're talking about levels of sweat sufficient that you could wring it out of your shirt. Some exceptions for extremely dry climates apply, of course.


I don't think you need it even then. I get that level of exercise six to eight times a week biking to and from work, averaging between 20-30mph, often at temps above 100°F in the heat of summer. Water is all you need, if you've eaten that day. Replenishment drinks are awesome for all-day physical exertion, though, when you're taking only short breaks. The only time I felt a real benefit from a sports mix was on a century ride, right around the 60-mile point. The rest areas were constantly mixing coolers full of Gu20, and that stuff was like drinking from the holy grail when you were starting to lose it.
 
2013-01-09 12:31:01 PM  
Thats why i drink brawndo
 
2013-01-09 12:32:23 PM  
Wed, Dec 19 2012

control-h.org
 
2013-01-09 12:57:28 PM  

megarian: Onkel Buck: maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.

I keep this in a mason jar

grows in dirt, no weird chemicals, never get a hangover
/sour diesel for the heads that want to know

How YOU doin'?


*clicks profile* I'm doing extremely well. That was grown in Port Huron by the way, just up the river from you.
 
2013-01-09 12:59:26 PM  

Onkel Buck: megarian: Onkel Buck: maxheck: I always keep a mason jar with this in it:

1 cup sugar
1-1/2 tsp. table salt
1-1/2 tsp potassium chloride salt substitute
4 packets unsweetened kool-aid powder

Makes ~2 gallons, or you can just stir a teaspoon into a tall glass of water as needed.

Cheap as dirt, works great when you've worked up a sweat, are hungover or otherwise dehydrated. No weird chemicals.

I keep this in a mason jar

grows in dirt, no weird chemicals, never get a hangover
/sour diesel for the heads that want to know

How YOU doin'?

*clicks profile* I'm doing extremely well. That was grown in Port Huron by the way, just up the river from you.


Ahhhh Pure Michigan.
 
2013-01-09 01:01:54 PM  
Those are just the molecules working.
 
2013-01-09 01:35:31 PM  
Gatorade has always tasted awful to me. An ex-bf told me that it tastes better when you're dehydrated (because, in theory, you need the stuff in Gatorade). It was true to a certain extent, but I would still prefer something else than a Gatorade if I had worked out and was very thirsty. This idiot probably reads the inserts with her medications and extrapolates about the low-occurrence side effects
 
2013-01-09 01:55:52 PM  

incendi: A Shambling Mound: This just in: Gatorade is a replacement for nothing and is not actually good for you.

Meh, I've read somewhere that the HFCS is actually more efficient for replenishing glycogen quickly (or something) than sucrose or straight glucose, and electrolyte replacement is important if you're doing strenuous exercise for a fairly long period of time (and hence sweating a LOT). However, 99% of the people swilling gatorade while they treadmill or bro-pump at the gym, or drinking it because they like the taste and aren't actually doing ANY exercise, are just loading up with a butt-ton of extra sugar and salt they absolutely don't need.


Yea there are situations where Gatorade or a similar substance is appropriate (like for marathon runners or really sick people, women in labor, etc.). I hate the taste, and like you said most people just don't need it. I drink water before and after I exercise and I eat meals that day.

When I worked in an unairconditioned factory I *would* drink 1 liter of water an hour so every 2 hours I would have a snack like something salty (a few pretzels) and a banana. Highly doubt I was ever close to being low on electrolytes though.

If I'm going on a long walk/hike or a long shopping expedition (seriously) I take a snack, but that is only because I actually get hungry and not because I think my electrolytes are in danger.
 
2013-01-09 02:02:32 PM  
Nobody thought of this?

www.walkoffwalk.com
 
GBB
2013-01-09 02:06:18 PM  
pool.theinfosphere.org

What side-effects?
 
2013-01-09 02:10:40 PM  

spidermilk: When I worked in an unairconditioned factory I *would* drink 1 liter of water an hour so every 2 hours I would have a snack like something salty (a few pretzels) and a banana. Highly doubt I was ever close to being low on electrolytes though.


Without the snacks, you probably would've gotten a little low - not anywhere near life-threatening, but enough that if you were trying to perform some feat of strength at the end of each day, you'd notice a significant performance difference between days you snacked and days you didn't. It affects your peak performance (which professional athletes have to use MUCH more often than the rest of us) long before you'll notice any significant difference in your day to day activities. Also, even if you're sweating your dick off all day long, you don't need straight sugar unless you just got done doing something super intense AND have to do it again in the next couple of minutes. Otherwise you're better off, generally speaking, to get your calories from slower sources.
 
2013-01-09 02:19:57 PM  

PirateKing: But it's got what plants crave!


Came for this. Left 'tarded.
 
2013-01-09 02:27:38 PM  

doczoidberg: topcon: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/business/another-look-at-a-drink-in g redient-brominated-vegetable-oil.html?_r=0

Seriously?
That's HER???

 I thought veganism was supposed to make you skinny.


Rice, beans, potatoes, corn - and all of them fried, too, as long as it's in veggie oil - counts as "vegan" but not exactly as "healthy." Throw in salted nuts, peanut butter or nutella, with some soy product on the side, and you have yourself a recipe for quick weight gain.

One of the "vegans" I knew in high school was actually just such a picky eater that she ate nothing but French Fries. (Of course, since you can only eat so many calories worth of fries in a day, she was actually skinny.) Seems to be a common thing.
 
2013-01-09 02:31:19 PM  

spideyknix: Nobody thought of this?

[www.walkoffwalk.com image 307x235]


Yea, someone already posted that.
 
2013-01-09 02:35:34 PM  

fredklein: You might be drinking too much Gatorade if it leaves you with skin lesions, memory loss and nerve disorders

"too much" == 8 liters daily, according to wiki. Assuming you have "a higher than normal sensitivity to bromine", of course.


Holy crap, that's 34 bottles a day, or 1700 calories from pure sugar. That'll do a number on you long before the bromides do, if they don't completely bankrupt you first.
 
2013-01-09 02:40:37 PM  
Vegans can be annoying as heck - but the girl is 15. Cut her some slack. Remember the stupid stuff you were into when you were her age.
 
2013-01-09 02:42:45 PM  

Rik01: Apparently, food additives don't have to go through the rigorous 5 to 8 years testing drugs do before being given to the public. I don't know for sure.


BVO is one of the grandfathered chemicals that predates the FDA.
 
2013-01-09 02:43:24 PM  
But what would I mix with my vodka? It's the perfect cocktail.

/it's healthy though, mine have very little Gatorade in them.
 
2013-01-09 02:45:49 PM  

doczoidberg: spawn73: topcon: I'm rushing to believe an article based off of the findings of a 15 year old self-proclaimed vegan on the Mother Nature Network.

Why did she say that she was a vegan? WTF does that have to do with anything. :(


Vegans always want you to know they're vegans.

If it didn't make them feel special, there'd be no reason to be a vegan at all.


It was also mentioned that her reason for looking up the ingredients of Gatorade was to make sure she could drink it (as a vegan).

I wonder if she would have gotten her stomach pumped if she found some animal bi-product in it.
 
2013-01-09 02:53:23 PM  

chairmenmeow47: why are people so against drinking water? i've never understood why people choose to drink sugar.


I avoid sugar, but I really don't like water. Solution: Powerade Zero or MiO. I used to drink a lot of G2 before finding something that is better and has no sugar at all.

/I wonder if G2 has BVO
//or even orange
 
2013-01-09 03:29:48 PM  

utah dude: Amos Quito: Gatorade ruined my plans for self-imolation.

damnit AQ, why aren't you in a nuclear physics program somewhere? you're one smart and funny bastard.



www.3smiles.net

I was but they kicked me out.

Those nuclear physicists have NO sense of humor.


/Thanks
//Blushes
/// shucks
 
2013-01-09 03:40:28 PM  

rogue_L_chick: incendi: doczoidberg: I thought veganism was supposed to make you skinny.

Can't eat meat, but you can slurp down all the HFCS you damned well please.

I once went through a phase where I pretty much lived on rice and Cap'n Crunch. I would joke that I had become a vegetarian by default, and it is hilarious how many people equate that with being really healthy. There are a lot of assumptions that "not eating meat" equals "fresh vegetables and lots of tofu".


I went to school with a bunch of what I came to call "brownie vegetarians" because they'd forego most of a healthy meal citing their vegetarianism, then go home and make a pan of brownies. Turns out that it doesn't just matter what you give up to be healthy, but also what you replace it with.

\Would be harder for a vegan.
 
2013-01-09 03:54:50 PM  

chairmenmeow47: why are people so against drinking water? i've never understood why people choose to drink sugar.


Kids crave sugar and will beg for sugary drinks. If they're never made to drink water, they'll never get used to unsweetened liquids.

You hear adults complain about how they don't like the taste of water (either just their tap water, or tap water in general, or room temp water, or uncarbonated water), but that just tells me they grew up allowed to be picky about what they drank and have never been thirsty enough to learn to appreciate water.

If you have ever, even once, had the experience of being ludicrously hot and thirsty, and there's nothing but warm cloudy lake water, dead midges floating on top and tasting of the iodine tablets that killed them and - you hope - anything smaller in there, you appreciate that water so much it totally recalibrates you. You will never again think that even the grossest tap water tastes anything but wonderfully refreshing.
 
2013-01-10 06:20:45 AM  

protectyourlimbs: ok, its been awhile... why did it change the words "Weeners" into "weeners"?


Because it knows you really like weeners.
 
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