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2013-01-09 11:13:05 AM  
That smugly grinning face is in the dictionary under douchebag.
 
2013-01-09 11:13:53 AM  
Yeah... nobody is gonna be on board with trying to take over Alaska. Russia practically gave it away.
 
2013-01-09 11:14:05 AM  
Ah this old one. The one where the American military military has overwhelming superiority and technology against any insurgency that could happen. Never mind Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq 2.0.

/plus you don't have to actually perform an insurgency, you know just pop the jackass who declares himself President for Life
//not that I support such actions or consider them the proper way to redress grievances, however to claim they are ineffective is deny facts
 
2013-01-09 11:14:30 AM  

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People tell me I have to join a militia to responsibly use my right to bear arms.
Then they get nitpicky because they think the militia I joined doesn't look like its up to the job.

/Most of the militia that make the news are just loud mouthed drinking clubs full of racists.
/On the other hand I've seen some scary looking guys that would make you want to double your local swat teams funding if you ran across them.
 
2013-01-09 11:14:47 AM  

PacManDreaming: Meh, if there was a major uprising, all the government would have to do is turn off the electricity, water, communications and have grocery suppliers stop all food deliveries. ....



tax refund check wasn't delivered by the post office? What do you mean the bank won't cash it? Wait, walmart is out of stock on ammo anyway? Damn my brilliant plans for revolution have failed.

Should read more Les Miserables and less Atlas Shrugged.
 
2013-01-09 11:15:25 AM  

Ennuipoet: Mike_LowELL: Step 1: Perform military exercises out in the woods, preparing to take on a fully-trained, trillion-dollar-a-year fighting force with fully-trained, well-equpped soldiers that will not only has absolute air superiority with tactics synchronized through satellite and computer communication, but will eventually be able to employ robots which take human casualties out of the equation.  This way, if the government comes after your freedoms, you'll be ready to take them on.
Step 2: ROFL

I've been trying to explain this to various retarded conservative friends over the past few months.  They seem to labor under the delusion the Army would never attack it's citizens and I have to explain again that "The Army" doesn't have to do shiat, just a couple of guys in a trailer with link to the Predators.

Farking 21st Century technology, how does it work?


They forget all the "non-lethal" weapons to top it all off. All the pain generators alone (sonic, thermal, et al.) can even take opponent casualties out of the equation, this rendering the military superior in that respect.
 
2013-01-09 11:15:27 AM  
So we crushed all resistance within Iraq and Afghanistan in the first couple of days and since then we've only been hanging about for the fun of it, right?
 
2013-01-09 11:15:39 AM  
So we need to ban guns because internet tough guys.

/End gun violence
//promote domestic violence instead.
///Or we could just try and stop violence in general before it starts...
 
2013-01-09 11:15:39 AM  
In any militia group, I'm betting at least 1/3rd report to the FBI.
 
2013-01-09 11:16:02 AM  

Ennuipoet: I've been trying to explain this to various retarded conservative friends over the past few months. They seem to labor under the delusion the Army would never attack it's citizens and I have to explain again that "The Army" doesn't have to do shiat, just a couple of guys in a trailer with link to the Predators.


Complete with collateral damage involving women and children.

That will surely pacify people.

Look how apeshiat they go when its a house full of Muslim women and children getting blown up via drone.........under a republican president.
 
2013-01-09 11:16:20 AM  
Essential to a well armed regulated militia. Buy it by the case.

i86.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-09 11:16:50 AM  

dittybopper:

Consider places like Afghanistan and Iraq, though: Mostly, they are desert-like areas, some flat, some mountainous, but generally with a very low amount of vegetation.

Now, this is not too far from where I live:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x480]

How easy do you think a drone is going to have finding a small group of people in that? What if they disperse? How are the drones going to distinguish the infrared signatures of human-sized animals from humans?* How are you going to distinguish them from normal hikers? What will happen the first time you wipe out a bunch of innocent people hiking with a bomb or missile from an MQ-9 Reaper because they were mistaken for legitimate targets? What if it was a group of Cub Scouts? What if so-called "militias" take to dressing like hikers, hiding their guns in their packs or other normal hiking equipment except for when they are being actively used? How will you know who the target is?

No, I don't think the use of drones would be a game changer in the way you think it would be. In my opinion, that would actually work against the government. You start dropping bombs or missiles in the United States, even on what are ...


Well hikers are not going to be armed to the teeth, so it's pretty easy to pick them out from armed mob. Also, if you are living in the woods, you leave signs of living in the woods. Vegetation gets cleared. Shelters built. Fires burned. Trash builds up. And that Vegetation you are so proud of disappears in the winter.

But then again, it doesn't sound like you actually know a thing about tracking.
 
2013-01-09 11:16:58 AM  

dittybopper: Ennuipoet: I've been trying to explain this to various retarded conservative friends over the past few months.  They seem to labor under the delusion the Army would never attack it's citizens and I have to explain again that "The Army" doesn't have to do shiat, just a couple of guys in a trailer with link to the Predators.

Farking 21st Century technology, how does it work?

Apparently not really all that well, or we wouldn't still be in Afghanistan, and we didn't use them to win in Iraq: We co-opted the tribal leadership there (ie., it was old fashioned politicking, not high tech).

Or, to put it another way: Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy things remotely is insignificant next to the power of ideology.

/I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Consider places like Afghanistan and Iraq, though: Mostly, they are desert-like areas, some flat, some mountainous, but generally with a very low amount of vegetation.

Now, this is not too far from where I live:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x480]

How easy do you think a drone is going to have finding a small group of people in that? What if they disperse? How are the drones going to distinguish the infrared signatures of human-sized animals from humans?* How are you going to distinguish them from normal hikers? What will happen the first time you wipe out a bunch of innocent people hiking with a bomb or missile from an MQ-9 Reaper because they were mistaken for legitimate targets? What if it was a group of Cub Scouts? What if so-called "militias" take to dressing like hikers, hiding their guns in their packs or other normal hiking equipment except for when they are being actively used? How will you know who the target is?

No, I don't think the use of drones would be a game changer in the way you think it would be. In my opinion, that would actually work against the government. You start dropping bombs or missiles in the United States, even on what are ...


Futile.... you are projecting logical fallacy. I have proof your theory will not work. 20 dead school children.

IF 20 dead 'white' kindergardeners can't change shiat in this country a couple of dead hikers or cub scouts will have ZERO sway on public opinions.
 
2013-01-09 11:17:01 AM  
I posted this in another thread.

It will be an interesting day when the redneck gun nuts have to raise their arms against their redneck brothers and sisters that joined the army to make ends meet.
It won't be the negro president personally knocking on your door.


The nuts gut even nuttier.
 
2013-01-09 11:17:25 AM  

fluffy2097: So we need to ban guns because internet tough guys.

/End gun violence
//promote domestic violence instead.
///Or we could just try and stop violence in general before it starts...


Militias don't kill people. People kill people.
 
2013-01-09 11:17:28 AM  
FTA: Barney was sentenced last year to five years in prison on weapons charges.

www.awn.com

I always knew he was a shady character.
 
2013-01-09 11:17:59 AM  
At the end of the trial in June, Judge Bryan said he wrote down observations about Cox, which included: paranoia, grandiosity, narcissism, egocentricity and pathological lying.

Then the judge attached the following image to his notes.

cdn.inquisitr.com
 
2013-01-09 11:17:59 AM  

vpb: dittybopper: Mike_LowELL: Step 1: Perform military exercises out in the woods, preparing to take on a fully-trained, trillion-dollar-a-year fighting force with fully-trained, well-equipped soldiers that will not only has absolute air superiority with tactics synchronized through satellite and computer communication, but will eventually be able to employ robots which take human casualties out of the equation.  This way, if the government comes after your freedoms, you'll be ready to take them on.
Step 2: ROFL

That's not the paradigm now. it's just that some people haven't gotten the message.

That's pretty much the typical terrorist fantasy. These guys only associate with others like them and don't realize how few people share their ideas.

Not to mention the fact that they don't even have the balls to resist arrest, which tells you that they would piss their pants and cry like little girls if they ever had to face combat troops.


They could try this:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-09 11:18:16 AM  
So the words "well regulated" can't be ignored?
 
2013-01-09 11:18:43 AM  
At the end of the trial in June, Bryan said he wrote down observations about Cox, which included: paranoia, grandiosity, narcissism, egocentricity and pathological lying.

Sounds like he should have been elected to the House of Representatives.
 
2013-01-09 11:19:25 AM  

Charlie Freak: If you have to limit your movements, hide in snow caves, and stay away from others lest you look like a target, forest or not, you're fighting on someone else's terms. Unless you have popular support, you won't last long.


Our group is pretty good at not worrying about this kind of stuff since we should be able to "hide in plain sight" pretty well without being traced; we think we'll be pretty well off when Obama comes for us given that we know where our parents hide their credit cards.
 
2013-01-09 11:19:59 AM  
A psychological exam ordered by Cox's new attorney, Peter Camiel of Seattle, after he was convicted showed Cox suffered from several paranoid disorders.

The primary disorder was being a Tea Party Member.
 
2013-01-09 11:20:10 AM  

dittybopper:

How easy do you think a drone is going to have finding a small group of people in that? What if they disperse? How are the drones going to distinguish the infrared signatures of human-sized animals from humans?* How are you going to distinguish them from normal hikers? What will happen the first time you wipe out a bunch of innocent people hiking with a bomb or missile from an MQ-9 Reaper because they were mistaken for legitimate targets? What if it was a group of Cub Scouts? What if so-called "militias" take to dressing like hikers, hiding their guns in their packs or other normal hiking equipment except for when they are being actively used? How will you know who the target is?


The US will react the same way as they do in those nifty middle eastern countries. Everyone is a target. That's what you get for living in a warzone.
 
2013-01-09 11:20:18 AM  

Catsaregreen: Our Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves.


You mean the ones that sent armies against US citizens? Those founding fathers?
 
2013-01-09 11:20:21 AM  

Catsaregreen: So what you Fark pussies are saying is, "Hand over your guns now, because there's no way you can fight the government. If they want to take away your freedoms, they can and there's nothing you can do about it"?

Our Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves.


growlersoftware.com
 
2013-01-09 11:22:16 AM  

gadian: You mean the ones that sent armies against US citizens? Those founding fathers?


I don't believe you are a US citizen when you secede from the union.

/We are talking about the civil war right?
 
2013-01-09 11:22:21 AM  

PacManDreaming: Meh, if there was a major uprising, all the government would have to do is turn off the electricity, water, communications and have grocery suppliers stop all food deliveries.


How long do you think the government would continue to operate after the people turn off the supply of tax money?

Wars are economic contests. The only reason we can continue losing a war in Afghanistan is that there are people like me back here paying for it.

When the government decides to put missiles on the drones it flies is US airspace, people will stop paying them.

The government's source of revenue will become a source of gunfire aimed in their direction. The government may not care much about the gunfire at first, but they will care about the loss of revenue.

Guerrilla units are relatively cheap. The US military is so bloated and inefficient that it couldn't operate if there were a single week of interruption in the collection of taxes.
 
2013-01-09 11:22:36 AM  

ha-ha-guy: Ah this old one. The one where the American military military has overwhelming superiority and technology against any insurgency that could happen. Never mind Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq 2.0.

/plus you don't have to actually perform an insurgency, you know just pop the jackass who declares himself President for Life
//not that I support such actions or consider them the proper way to redress grievances, however to claim they are ineffective is deny facts


You know what all three of them had in common? A sugar daddy. The Vietnamese insurgency was funded by the North and supplied by the Soviets. Afghanistan had a steady supply of arms and money from Bin Laden and his network, as did Iraq 2.0

The French Resistance? Backed by the Allies.

Even the American Revolution relied on the French for arms, money, and it's Navy.

Logistics wins wars, not fervor.
 
2013-01-09 11:24:01 AM  

hinten: I posted this in another thread.

It will be an interesting day when the redneck gun nuts have to raise their arms against their redneck brothers and sisters that joined the army to make ends meet.
It won't be the negro president personally knocking on your door.

The nuts gut even nuttier.


Only rednecks own guns. This is what people like this actually believe. And you make it extra classy by saying only rednecks join the military.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/in-gun-ownership- s tatistics-partisan-divide-is-sharp/

Link

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-01-09 11:24:30 AM  
It's not the noise makers the gov. has to worry about. Those guys are fools.
 
2013-01-09 11:24:42 AM  
Wow. 26 years for basically mouthing off, but not hurting a fly.

Interesting.

Soviets were pretty good at that shiat:

"Psychiatry of the Brezhnev period was used as a tool to eliminate political opponents ("dissidents"), people who openly expressed their views that contradict officially declared dogmas.[13]:17 In case the person did not agree with the specific actions of people in leading positions and criticized them by using philosophic dogmas according to the writings by Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Vladimir Lenin, the term "philosophical intoxication" was widely used to diagnose mental disorders.[13]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Sov i et_Union
 
2013-01-09 11:24:57 AM  
How long before other countries start waging a proxy war against the US government by giving 9k38s and DSHKs to the militias in that scenario?

the enemy of my enemy is my friend and all that......
 
2013-01-09 11:25:19 AM  

PacManDreaming: Imagine the government turning off communications and suspending the Constitution.


Suspending the Constitution is unconstitutional. Since the Constitution defines the structure of government, suspending it is also suspending the existence of the office of president and his position as command in chief and the legitimacy of the entire executive branch. Constitutionally, the president is allowed to suspend habeas corpus in cases of rebellion or invasion, and use of that power alone should be sufficient to maintain continuity of government without violating other rights.
 
2013-01-09 11:25:35 AM  

mytdawg: At the end of the trial in June, Bryan said he wrote down observations about Cox, which included: paranoia, grandiosity, narcissism, egocentricity and pathological lying.

Sounds like he should have been elected to the House of Representatives.


That meager resume of social ills makes him better than Newt Gingrich was.
 
2013-01-09 11:25:39 AM  
ITT a bunch of folks who don't understand the nature of guerrilla insurgencies.

If you are imagining a pitched battle between a ragtag militia and the US military, that will never happen.
 
2013-01-09 11:26:04 AM  

fluffy2097: /We are talking about the civil war right?


Nope. Further back than that.
 
2013-01-09 11:26:42 AM  

Charlie Freak: Unless you have popular


The trick is that every now and then, groups DO gather popular support. They you have a flippin vietnam or Afghanistan on your hands. And rolling in heavy on nutburgers does wonders for popular support. Waco was way back in the 90s, but it still looms large. It pissed ME off, and I'm nowhere close to tinfoil hat country.
 
2013-01-09 11:27:08 AM  

grokca: Ennuipoet: Mike_LowELL: Step 1: Perform military exercises out in the woods, preparing to take on a fully-trained, trillion-dollar-a-year fighting force with fully-trained, well-equpped soldiers that will not only has absolute air superiority with tactics synchronized through satellite and computer communication, but will eventually be able to employ robots which take human casualties out of the equation.  This way, if the government comes after your freedoms, you'll be ready to take them on.
Step 2: ROFL

I've been trying to explain this to various retarded conservative friends over the past few months.  They seem to labor under the delusion the Army would never attack it's citizens and I have to explain again that "The Army" doesn't have to do shiat, just a couple of guys in a trailer with link to the Predators.

Farking 21st Century technology, how does it work?

Magnets.


Ah, so that's it. I thought it was all ball bearings nowadays. I am clearly behind the times.
 
2013-01-09 11:28:13 AM  

dittybopper: Ennuipoet: I've been trying to explain this to various retarded conservative friends over the past few months.  They seem to labor under the delusion the Army would never attack it's citizens and I have to explain again that "The Army" doesn't have to do shiat, just a couple of guys in a trailer with link to the Predators.

Farking 21st Century technology, how does it work?

Apparently not really all that well, or we wouldn't still be in Afghanistan, and we didn't use them to win in Iraq: We co-opted the tribal leadership there (ie., it was old fashioned politicking, not high tech).

Or, to put it another way: Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy things remotely is insignificant next to the power of ideology.

/I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Consider places like Afghanistan and Iraq, though: Mostly, they are desert-like areas, some flat, some mountainous, but generally with a very low amount of vegetation.

Now, this is not too far from where I live:

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 640x480]

How easy do you think a drone is going to have finding a small group of people in that? What if they disperse? How are the drones going to distinguish the infrared signatures of human-sized animals from humans?* How are you going to distinguish them from normal hikers? What will happen the first time you wipe out a bunch of innocent people hiking with a bomb or missile from an MQ-9 Reaper because they were mistaken for legitimate targets? What if it was a group of Cub Scouts? What if so-called "militias" take to dressing like hikers, hiding their guns in their packs or other normal hiking equipment except for when they are being actively used? How will you know who the target is?

No, I don't think the use of drones would be a game changer in the way you think it would be. In my opinion, that would actually work against the government. You start dropping bombs or missiles in the United States, even on what are legitimate ta ...


Pffffffft.

Step 1: Set the woods on fire and smoke their dumb asses out.
Step 2: Sit back and pluck off your buddies as they run from the blaze
Step 3: Arrest the majority of them who see a few get picked off and remember that they're not soldiers, they're low-skilled workers who don't really want to kill anyone.
 
2013-01-09 11:28:47 AM  

mark12A: Wow. 26 years for basically mouthing off, but not hurting a fly.


You can kill people and serve less time.

The government is extra-super-sensitive to people who do not respect their authoritay.

They'll probably put him in the deepest hole they have -- ADX Florence. That's where they put the ones that embarrass them.

Rule No. 1 of being in the Ruling Class: Maintain your position in the Ruling Class

Rule No. 2: Pretend to care about helping the people who aren't in the Ruling Class to the extent it helps serve the purposes of Rule No. 1.
 
2013-01-09 11:29:44 AM  

aninconvenienterection: grokca: Ennuipoet: Mike_LowELL: Step 1: Perform military exercises out in the woods, preparing to take on a fully-trained, trillion-dollar-a-year fighting force with fully-trained, well-equpped soldiers that will not only has absolute air superiority with tactics synchronized through satellite and computer communication, but will eventually be able to employ robots which take human casualties out of the equation.  This way, if the government comes after your freedoms, you'll be ready to take them on.
Step 2: ROFL

I've been trying to explain this to various retarded conservative friends over the past few months.  They seem to labor under the delusion the Army would never attack it's citizens and I have to explain again that "The Army" doesn't have to do shiat, just a couple of guys in a trailer with link to the Predators.

Farking 21st Century technology, how does it work?

Magnets.

Ah, so that's it. I thought it was all ball bearings nowadays. I am clearly behind the times.


Sounds like someone needs a refresher course.
 
2013-01-09 11:29:51 AM  

topcon: hinten: I posted this in another thread.

It will be an interesting day when the redneck gun nuts have to raise their arms against their redneck brothers and sisters that joined the army to make ends meet.
It won't be the negro president personally knocking on your door.

The nuts gut even nuttier.

Only rednecks own guns. This is what people like this actually believe. And you make it extra classy by saying only rednecks join the military.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/in-gun-ownership- s tatistics-partisan-divide-is-sharp/

Link

[graphics8.nytimes.com image 480x1091]


It will be the rednecks that stay behind to fight the "government" which are just their redneck brethren that joined the armed forces. In case of an uprising the rich and educated people will already have left the country, just see Cuba as an example.
 
2013-01-09 11:30:13 AM  
I figure most "militia" members are people who either couldn't get into the military or washed out of the military.
 
2013-01-09 11:30:48 AM  

xanadian: That is one weird-looking dude. Can't put my finger on why I'm thinking that. And it has nothing to do with the orange jumpsuit clashing with his complexion...


His face looks like a CGI of a police sketch.  He doesn't seem real.
 
2013-01-09 11:31:27 AM  

vpb: A psychological exam ordered by Cox's new attorney, Peter Camiel of Seattle, after he was convicted showed Cox suffered from several paranoid disorders.
"I put a lot of people in fear by the things that I said," Cox told the court Tuesday. "Some of the crazy stuff that was coming out of my mouth, I see that, and I sounded horrible.
"I couldn't have sounded any worse if I tried," he said. "The more scared I got, the crazier the stuff. I wasn't thinking, I was panicking."

I think this guy has several alts here on Fark.


Anti-authoritarians are commonly labeled as mentally ill or defective.
It makes them easier to control through legal means.

Cox, Schaeffer: An example to everyone who thinks the 2nd Amendment means what you think if means.
 
2013-01-09 11:31:53 AM  
. The profligate use of defoliants did not help us in Vietnam: Even in the Winter, when nature defoliates itself, you still have the problem of the tree trunks themselves, not to mention terrain features, and a snow cave would be very good at diffusing your infrared signature. Properly sited, it might even be largely invisible.>

As far as I know, where there's a snow cave there's a power generator.
www.theforce.net

And rebellious snow bunnies!
i133.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-09 11:32:09 AM  
paranoia, grandiosity, narcissism, egocentricity and pathological lying.


sooooo... republican, then? why didn't you just say 'republican'?
 
2013-01-09 11:32:15 AM  

Phinn: PacManDreaming: Meh, if there was a major uprising, all the government would have to do is turn off the electricity, water, communications and have grocery suppliers stop all food deliveries.

How long do you think the government would continue to operate after the people turn off the supply of tax money?

Wars are economic contests. The only reason we can continue losing a war in Afghanistan is that there are people like me back here paying for it.

When the government decides to put missiles on the drones it flies is US airspace, people will stop paying them.

The government's source of revenue will become a source of gunfire aimed in their direction. The government may not care much about the gunfire at first, but they will care about the loss of revenue.

Guerrilla units are relatively cheap. The US military is so bloated and inefficient that it couldn't operate if there were a single week of interruption in the collection of taxes.


There is a difference between currency and resources. They don't need cash especially if they can print their own or simply take the resources they need.
 
2013-01-09 11:32:22 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Step 1: Set the woods on fire and smoke their dumb asses out.


Because if there's one thing wildfires do it's stay in one place and not cause catastrophic environmental and collateral damage.
 
2013-01-09 11:33:10 AM  
These weirdos talk a pretty tough game until the government actually shows up. Then they don't even fire a shot and cry at their trial.
 
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