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(Kitsap Sun)   Participants in a mud run who were injured at the obstacle known as "Gravity's Revenge" are angry that it was correctly named (w/pic)   (kitsapsun.com) divider line 118
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2013-01-09 08:04:11 AM
Did they make them sign a waiver before participating?
 
2013-01-09 08:05:06 AM
Idiots.

In a couple weeks, I'm going to run a primitive biathlon course that has a hill that is aptly named "Fat Man's Misery". If I have a heart attack or slip and injure myself, should I sue?
 
2013-01-09 08:05:25 AM
Oh, never mind they did. Too bad so sad
 
2013-01-09 08:07:45 AM
I don't understand these obstacle course races. Is it that much fun being covered in mud, electrically shocked, AND completely exhausted?
 
2013-01-09 08:08:03 AM

dittybopper: If I have a heart attack or slip and injure myself, should I sue?


Of course you should. It's the American way.
 
2013-01-09 08:08:59 AM

deanis: I don't understand these obstacle course races. Is it that much fun being covered in mud, electrically shocked, AND completely exhausted?


From what I understand, yes
 
2013-01-09 08:10:11 AM
"You win again, gravity!"
 
2013-01-09 08:11:14 AM

deanis: I don't understand these obstacle course races. Is it that much fun being covered in mud, electrically shocked, AND completely exhausted?


Maybe for some people I guess. I don't understand the appeal of marathons either, who the hell wants to run 26 farking miles?
 
2013-01-09 08:11:14 AM
if everybody is sliding down this slope and crashing into the rocks and fracturing their feet, then maybe they have a case.  It is one thing if it is a flukey injury or a scratch, but if everybody is getting hurt and medics have to shut the obstacle down in the middle of the race, then maybe they just designed it wrong.
 
2013-01-09 08:13:41 AM
Maybe you shouldn't be doing rugged obstacle courses if it could effect(n) your job. That is just being irresponsible.

/This is why we can't have nice things
//Tort reform (am I doing it right?)
 
2013-01-09 08:14:48 AM
Who has wronged gravity? Balloons? Aircraft? So why is gravity striking out on runners? Wait a second. Things that "get back" at aircraft should be called gravity's revenge. Anti-aircraft guns? Oh nevermind.
 
2013-01-09 08:14:52 AM

deanis: I don't understand these obstacle course races. Is it that much fun being covered in mud, electrically shocked, AND completely exhausted?


Take a look at any sport, is it fun to get worked over by a 400 pound guy for 60 minutes straight, or to stand around in a field for 3 hours waiting for a ball to be hit to you, or to go 9 rounds getting punched in the face and choked out.

If its your cup of tea, then yes.

/it is my cup of tea
//it also keeps me active and in the gym, trying to beat my times
 
2013-01-09 08:15:53 AM
Typical Americans...It's always someone elses fault I got hurt for my own stupid behavior!!!
 
2013-01-09 08:16:09 AM

deanis: I don't understand these obstacle course races. Is it that much fun being covered in mud, electrically shocked, AND completely exhausted?


the problem i have is the mud race near me always takes place when the water is still farking cold.  When it is august and 100 out, running through water and mud is a great way to cool off.  but in farking april when the water is like 45 degrees?  fark no.

Also, not only do you pay $100 to do the race and shower outside with hundreds of other smelly people, you are also basically throwing away an entire outfit.  Whatever you wear for one of these mud runs - from your shirt to your shoes - is getting thrown away.  So if you have a pair of shoes you are getting rid of anyway, go for it.
 
2013-01-09 08:16:17 AM

AnubisMan: Maybe for some people I guess. I don't understand the appeal of marathons either, who the hell wants to run 26 farking miles?


Straight running? F*cking hate it, it's useless to me. Running an obstacle course? Reminds me of being a kid, I loved that stuff.

I missed out on Tough Mudder when it came to my town, really regret that.
 
2013-01-09 08:17:18 AM
Gravity is a harsh mistress.
 
2013-01-09 08:18:25 AM
is it fun to get worked over by a 400 pound guy for 60 minutes straight

Keep your personal life to yourself.
 
2013-01-09 08:18:41 AM
media.kitsapsun.com

I CAME!!
 
2013-01-09 08:18:42 AM

KoRnBoY69: Maybe you shouldn't be doing rugged obstacle courses if it could effect(n) your job. That is just being irresponsible.

/This is why we can't have nice things
//Tort reform (am I doing it right?)


police officers are running the race to try to stay physically fit?  There is a potential for injury from performing almost any exercise.
 
2013-01-09 08:18:48 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Oh, never mind they did. Too bad so sad


You can't waive this away.

/I hope they win the suit, it sounds like a strong case, even from the article (which are usually written to muckraking standards)
//but it will probably be settled out of court if the organizers aren't complete morons.
 
2013-01-09 08:20:40 AM
I did one of those mud runs last year; never again. It was all a bunch of Walter Mittys; faux manliness from sallow cubicle workers. Pretty pathetic, actually.
 
2013-01-09 08:20:59 AM

mekkab: You can't waive this away.

/I hope they win the suit, it sounds like a strong case, even from the article (which are usually written to muckraking standards)
//but it will probably be settled out of court if the organizers aren't complete morons.


No, we can't just start saying this waiver holds up and this doesn't. Then that just opens up the field to eliminate any kind of organized physical activity event.
 
2013-01-09 08:22:21 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Did they make them sign a waiver before participating?


Yep, but the risk/injuries went "beyond the scope" of the waiver according to the woman's lawyer.

What a bunch of crap, but sadly SOP.
 
2013-01-09 08:22:49 AM

Tat'dGreaser: No, we can't just start saying this waiver holds up and this doesn't.


... years of case law would argue otherwise. Search for the paragraph containing the word "negligence" in the article and re-read that. That is the stuff of law.

/IANAL
//and I ANAL
 
2013-01-09 08:23:27 AM
"Gee, I never thought jumping off a 25 foot cliff into a puddle of mud at the age of 59 could injure me!!!"

This lady should be fired from the police force for being an idiot.
 
2013-01-09 08:23:30 AM
what a mud runner may look like:

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2013-01-09 08:25:20 AM
I'm tired of people talking about tough mudders. It's the new most annoying thing people talk aobut relentlessly at the office like running marathons or adopting a rescue.
 
2013-01-09 08:34:12 AM
Bart: I thought you came here looking for a challenge.
Lisa: Duh! A challenge I could do!
 
2013-01-09 08:37:53 AM
From the picture that looks like it's almost vertical. I would have taken the rope.
 
2013-01-09 08:40:50 AM

dittybopper: Idiots.

In a couple weeks, I'm going to run a primitive biathlon course that has a hill that is aptly named "Fat Man's Misery". If I have a heart attack or slip and injure myself, should I sue?


Depends. Are you a fat man?
 
2013-01-09 08:42:07 AM
They should have been wrapped in Imipolex G.
 
2013-01-09 08:44:11 AM

mekkab: Tat'dGreaser: Oh, never mind they did. Too bad so sad

You can't waive this away.

/I hope they win the suit, it sounds like a strong case, even from the article (which are usually written to muckraking standards)
//but it will probably be settled out of court if the organizers aren't complete morons.


You sound fat.
 
2013-01-09 08:45:16 AM

Tat'dGreaser: mekkab: You can't waive this away.

/I hope they win the suit, it sounds like a strong case, even from the article (which are usually written to muckraking standards)
//but it will probably be settled out of court if the organizers aren't complete morons.

No, we can't just start saying this waiver holds up and this doesn't. Then that just opens up the field to eliminate any kind of organized physical activity event.


Actually we can and we do. Waivers aren't some safety blanket that protects against all harm, it protects against foreseeable harm and does not protect against gross negligence. Going strictly from the article, it sounds like many people were hurt at a particular point on the course throughout the day yet the organizers didn't close that part down or provide a pass through causing more people to be harmed. Does the failure to close a known injury-causing spot exceed the bounds of the waiver is a justifiable issue to bring to the court and one the plaintiff will likely win.

/Did the 5k Run for your Lives
//there was a particular obstacle, a slide, that was roped off because people early in the day started hurting their ankles and they didn't want others to get hurt
///sounds like the organizers of this mud run were not very proactive
 
2013-01-09 08:46:00 AM
Something something pays your money and you takes your chances something
 
2013-01-09 08:47:32 AM
I was injured by the lack of proofreading in that article. I'm going to sue.
 
2013-01-09 08:53:25 AM
I honestly don't know who to root for on this one...

I don't want to root for the idiots who hurt themselves and sue over it, but I don't want to root for people who just copied someone else's idea and probably charged $100+ plus for a race that involved zero street closures.

I am not a fan of mud runs in general, but I spread that blame equally to the people in them and the people who organize them.

It is a real tough call.

/and the waivers mean nothing.
 
2013-01-09 08:54:58 AM

August11: Who has wronged gravity? Balloons? Aircraft? So why is gravity striking out on runners? Wait a second. Things that "get back" at aircraft should be called gravity's revenge. Anti-aircraft guns? Oh nevermind.


"Reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -Richard Feynman
 
2013-01-09 08:56:52 AM
Too all you people who don't understand the mudders...

Lots of people don't understand the feeling of joy I have while standing on the fairway when a cool summer morning is clearing away into a hot summer day. It's that perfect moment when everything just clicks and your consciousness fades away. You don't have to think about what you are doing because it just feels right. That's usually when the course marshal shoves my bundled up clothes into my hands and tells me to get off his golf course, and take my goat with me. I try to explain that if he doesn't eat pure Kentucky bluegrass he won't win a ribbon at the fair but nobody listens. Bastards.
 
2013-01-09 08:57:43 AM
In the context of this lawsuit, I think the english language version of "unreasonably dangerous" is "I lost and I'm a big baby so I need to punish somebody for my inadequacies."
 
2013-01-09 08:59:41 AM
The fark is a "mud run"?

Actually, I don't want to know.
 
2013-01-09 09:00:13 AM
bacongood
2013-01-09 08:53:25 AM

I honestly don't know who to root for on this one...

I don't want to root for the idiots who hurt themselves and sue over it, but I don't want to root for people who just copied someone else's idea and probably charged $100+ plus for a race that involved zero street closures.

I am not a fan of mud runs in general, but I spread that blame equally to the people in them and the people who organize them.

It is a real tough call.


WHY?!?

It's a voluntary activity, one that even without a long slippery hill has many chances of getting hurt. You're running through mud.
I hope they lose the suit, and furthermore, I hope it really hurts
 
2013-01-09 09:02:52 AM
Sounds like muddy vaginas to me...
 
2013-01-09 09:03:00 AM
I want to do a dangerous thing. But I only want it to seem dangerous. In fact, if it is not totally safe I will pursue legal action. America?
 
2013-01-09 09:03:10 AM
Bottom line: Non athletes show up to participate in an event designed for real athletes. Sue because the event was too difficult for them and they got hurt.

Never mind that they were warned and given easier options, like going around or use the rope.

The older I get, the more disgusted I get about the stupidity and audacity of people in this country.

I hope they get nothing but ridicule.
 
2013-01-09 09:03:33 AM
A friend did this one and he said that there was one part of running through an area where you got electrically shocked and people were just falling over from the jolt. At that point I would quit the race.
 
2013-01-09 09:05:01 AM

kalor: Tat'dGreaser: mekkab: You can't waive this away.

/I hope they win the suit, it sounds like a strong case, even from the article (which are usually written to muckraking standards)
//but it will probably be settled out of court if the organizers aren't complete morons.

No, we can't just start saying this waiver holds up and this doesn't. Then that just opens up the field to eliminate any kind of organized physical activity event.

Actually we can and we do. Waivers aren't some safety blanket that protects against all harm, it protects against foreseeable harm and does not protect against gross negligence. Going strictly from the article, it sounds like many people were hurt at a particular point on the course throughout the day yet the organizers didn't close that part down or provide a pass through causing more people to be harmed. Does the failure to close a known injury-causing spot exceed the bounds of the waiver is a justifiable issue to bring to the court and one the plaintiff will likely win.

/Did the 5k Run for your Lives
//there was a particular obstacle, a slide, that was roped off because people early in the day started hurting their ankles and they didn't want others to get hurt
///sounds like the organizers of this mud run were not very proactive


I have no sympathy for these people what so ever. I did a mud run last year called the "rugged maniac". It was promoted that the design was created by ex-Navy seals and not for the faint at heart. I trained for three months for the run expecting it to be physically challenging and endurance based.

It is suppose to be a race, but 90% of the "runners" at my event were over weight, not physically fit, and walked.

Case in point...Don't be idiot, know you limitations.

/It's not like there were ten foot walls around the obstacles so you couldn'y walk around them.
 
2013-01-09 09:05:52 AM

Albert911emt: In the context of this lawsuit, I think the english language version of "unreasonably dangerous" is "I lost and I'm a big baby so I need to punish somebody for my inadequacies."


Why did this have to be a lawsuit by 3 women? WHY?!

Also, I've run these things, and the waivers they make you sign are pretty clear. They say "You are the one volunteering to do this stupid thing, if you get hurt it's your own dumb fault so you cant sue us. Ever." Honestly, if they felt the obstacle was unsafe they could have simply not done it. Nobody forced them to, implicitly or explicitly.
 
2013-01-09 09:06:51 AM
I expect to see more of this as these kinds of races get more popular.  I'm not sure if there is some sort of governing body providing guidelines or not.   I have some friends that do these and from what they tell me it seems to be kind of a haphazard, whatever seems okay at the time sort of setup.

They enjoy it, doesn't really appeal to me.
 
2013-01-09 09:08:05 AM

mekkab: Tat'dGreaser: Oh, never mind they did. Too bad so sad

You can't waive this away.

/I hope they win the suit, it sounds like a strong case, even from the article (which are usually written to muckraking standards)
//but it will probably be settled out of court if the organizers aren't complete morons.


Really, to me it sounds like just 3 people out of the larger group of runners got injured, but one was bad enough to have to divert people around the obstacle while she was being tended to.

Perhaps these ladies should have stayed someplace that isn't rife with muddy holes, like the kitchen or bedroom.
 
2013-01-09 09:17:06 AM

A Shambling Mound: I want to do a dangerous thing. But I only want it to seem dangerous. In fact, if it is not totally safe I will pursue legal action. America?


This.
 
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