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(WKYC Cleveland)   How do we, a budget-strapped school, remove all of this asbestos? Let's have the students do it. Brilliant   (wkyc.com) divider line 23
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2013-01-09 12:55:32 AM
3 votes:

SilentStrider: Well the money the kids win in the lawsuit will certainly help put them through college.


Well, 3 years anyway.  The rest will pay for their medical bills/funerals.
2013-01-09 12:09:55 AM
3 votes:
Newt Gingrich approves.
2013-01-09 04:01:26 AM
2 votes:

justoneznot: but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?


Well, you see, it's a service people need, and so people start businesses that provide that service, and the people who run and work for that company use the money they make to buy homes. So when a trained asbestos employee stepped out of his home, looked across the way, and saw what was going on he was able to identify the a safety hazard most people would not have noticed. . .honestly, you need this explained?
2013-01-09 01:36:53 AM
2 votes:
Jesus Saves... Several thousand dollars by using child slave labor
2013-01-09 01:34:54 AM
2 votes:
I'm told that private business can do a much cheaper job of things, and that government regulations only make things more expensive. I can't imagine why anyone would be upset that a private school would choose to avoid the expense and save the taxpayers money (and keep the government out of their business, by the way), and also teach kids some valuable skills that will surely benefit them later in life.

I think I hit all the talking points.
2013-01-09 01:34:12 AM
2 votes:
A 13 year-old religious kid can get in the little spaces that a fat union contractor could not.

Besides.... Jesus keeps the cancer away.
2013-01-09 01:33:54 AM
2 votes:
Shocking that the footage was recorded by a "concerned citizen" who just happens to own an asbestos removal company. I'm sure that was just a koinkidink.
2013-01-09 01:00:53 PM
1 votes:
Well, it's about what I expect of funderpmentalists in blowhio. Hate this state.
2013-01-09 08:34:38 AM
1 votes:
My friend's father has malignant mesothelioma from working in a factory cutting asbestos laden materials forty years ago. He only worked there one summer as a young man. It affects the lining of organs and tissue. He had a lung removed, most of the ribs on that side removed, part of his liver, and a bunch of other tissue from his chest cavity. Plus all kinds of chemo, etc. He has lived longer than most with this disease. (most die within a year; he was diagnosed 2 years ago).

It does take decades to show up, but can occur after minimal exposure to airborne particles. It only takes one single airborne piece of asbestos to start the disease process.

I do hope the people at this church were ignorant of the potential impact, and not willfully choosing to subject the kids to this possibility in their far-off future. I prefer to think they just didn't know any better. They do ban TV's, etc. after all.

Stupid sometimes has the same end result as evil, but somehow stupid seems more forgivable.
2013-01-09 06:17:00 AM
1 votes:

justoneznot: The guy that called the authorities on them is someone that removes asbestos for a living. I wonder if there's a side story here where they declined his services, he felt snubbed and narked. Sure, this was incredibly stupid and they need to be punished, but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?


Likely because people who remove asbestos for a living understand the types of buildings likely to contain it, and recognize its properties more readily than someone who knows nothing about it.

I'm on an asbestos exposure registry after exposure in the workplace. In our case, it was recognized by an architect -- a person who knows building materials and eras.
2013-01-09 04:37:37 AM
1 votes:
14th thing people should stop doing this year: stop putting auto-play videos on websites.
2013-01-09 04:18:22 AM
1 votes:

justoneznot: The guy that called the authorities on them is someone that removes asbestos for a living. I wonder if there's a side story here where they declined his services, he felt snubbed and narked. Sure, this was incredibly stupid and they need to be punished, but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?


Eh, snubbed or no this guy was fully justified. He does hazardous work for a living. Pawning it off to a bunch of kids is downright stupid and dangerous.
2013-01-09 03:54:26 AM
1 votes:
The guy that called the authorities on them is someone that removes asbestos for a living. I wonder if there's a side story here where they declined his services, he felt snubbed and narked. Sure, this was incredibly stupid and they need to be punished, but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?
2013-01-09 02:46:49 AM
1 votes:
Religious teaching - is there anything more stupid?
I mean other than discarding scientific evidence in favour of using unprotected child labour to remove cancer-causing materials?
Maybe the sky-fairy will protect them, just like he does with tsunami victims.
2013-01-09 02:44:45 AM
1 votes:
They're skilled asbestos workers. They're essential.

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2013-01-09 02:42:26 AM
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Shocking that the footage was recorded by a "concerned citizen" who just happens to own an asbestos removal company. I'm sure that was just a koinkidink.


News report said he filmed it from his porch/deck/whatever it was called. The coincidence is that he owns an asbestos removal company and a piece of property next to the school. At first I thought the same thing but I don't see anything suspicious there.

Plenty of reason to report it just because of the kids bit and the fact he does have to follow the law. I'd be somewhat pissed too if I saw someone getting away with something I can't but throw the kids in the mix and I'd be all over it.
2013-01-09 02:40:08 AM
1 votes:
intensities.files.wordpress.com

All kids, all abestos, all the time!
2013-01-09 02:29:46 AM
1 votes:

thatboyoverthere: video man: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I'm more concerned with the idea that high schoolers can be trusted with crowbars and saws to NOT destroy something important.

Yeah, 16-year-old me would've taken a good shot at the wall with the crowbar when no one was looking.

16 year old me would have gone "THE FARK! YOU WANT ME TO CLEAR OUT FARKING ASBESTOS! WITH OUT ANY SAFETY GEAR!?"


Well, I would too. Then I would've farked shiat up.
2013-01-09 02:13:23 AM
1 votes:

video man: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I'm more concerned with the idea that high schoolers can be trusted with crowbars and saws to NOT destroy something important.

Yeah, 16-year-old me would've taken a good shot at the wall with the crowbar when no one was looking.


16 year old me would have gone "THE FARK! YOU WANT ME TO CLEAR OUT FARKING ASBESTOS! WITH OUT ANY SAFETY GEAR!?"
2013-01-09 01:57:10 AM
1 votes:

phartman: Asbestos is dangerous only if is a certain particle size. Otherwise it is inert.


That's why removal is so dangerous. A "dust cloud" of asbestos-riddled debris is flirting with danger. For removal, they usually get it soaking wet, so it can just be picked up, instead of floating in the air.
2013-01-09 01:48:51 AM
1 votes:

morg: Darren Clink, who lives next to the former Y, used a camera to shoot video of the students and others taking debris out of the building
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Clink, who removes asbestos for a living, says his concern for the students has turned to anger at school officials.

Damn convenient to live right by the school that screwed you out of a job in favor of free (and soon to be dead) labor.


Pretty unlikely. Asbestosis, while a killer, isn't caused by a few days exposure to the levels likely to be present in a demolition site. It can take up to 20 years for symptoms to develop even in people whose jobs consisted of chronic, daily exposure in an industrial setting. ( Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001177/) Otherwise healthy kids breathing some dust outdoors for two or three days are probably not in any danger.

Which doesn't let the school officials off the hook. They should be sued right out of their holy socks. But don't go burying the kids yet. They should be just fine.
2013-01-09 01:43:18 AM
1 votes:
Darren Clink, who lives next to the former Y, used a camera to shoot video of the students and others taking debris out of the building
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Clink, who removes asbestos for a living, says his concern for the students has turned to anger at school officials.


Damn convenient to live right by the school that screwed you out of a job in favor of free (and soon to be dead) labor.
2013-01-09 01:33:28 AM
1 votes:
I guess they can just pray the cancer away!!

/ snarksnarksnark
 
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