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(WKYC Cleveland)   How do we, a budget-strapped school, remove all of this asbestos? Let's have the students do it. Brilliant   (wkyc.com) divider line 85
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2013-01-09 12:09:55 AM
Newt Gingrich approves.
 
2013-01-09 12:41:42 AM
Well the money the kids win in the lawsuit will certainly help put them through college.
 
2013-01-09 12:55:32 AM

SilentStrider: Well the money the kids win in the lawsuit will certainly help put them through college.


Well, 3 years anyway.  The rest will pay for their medical bills/funerals.
 
2013-01-09 01:29:57 AM
Volunteer? Yeah right.
 
2013-01-09 01:32:42 AM
Can't they turn it into a Trade School kind of thing?
Its always good to have a trade to turn to if your first career choice doesn't work out.
Lots of money in asbestos removal.
 
2013-01-09 01:33:28 AM
I guess they can just pray the cancer away!!

/ snarksnarksnark
 
2013-01-09 01:33:37 AM
you can raise them with the purest foods and what-not. most of them hit an age and wham, their bodies become experimental laboratory chemical waste dumps and alcohol vessels so as your back is turned. don't worry about it.
 
2013-01-09 01:33:54 AM
Shocking that the footage was recorded by a "concerned citizen" who just happens to own an asbestos removal company. I'm sure that was just a koinkidink.
 
2013-01-09 01:34:12 AM
A 13 year-old religious kid can get in the little spaces that a fat union contractor could not.

Besides.... Jesus keeps the cancer away.
 
2013-01-09 01:34:54 AM
I'm told that private business can do a much cheaper job of things, and that government regulations only make things more expensive. I can't imagine why anyone would be upset that a private school would choose to avoid the expense and save the taxpayers money (and keep the government out of their business, by the way), and also teach kids some valuable skills that will surely benefit them later in life.

I think I hit all the talking points.
 
2013-01-09 01:36:53 AM
Jesus Saves... Several thousand dollars by using child slave labor
 
2013-01-09 01:42:34 AM

fusillade762: Newt Gingrich approves.


Done in one.
 
2013-01-09 01:43:18 AM
Darren Clink, who lives next to the former Y, used a camera to shoot video of the students and others taking debris out of the building
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Clink, who removes asbestos for a living, says his concern for the students has turned to anger at school officials.


Damn convenient to live right by the school that screwed you out of a job in favor of free (and soon to be dead) labor.
 
2013-01-09 01:45:33 AM
It builds character.
 
2013-01-09 01:47:02 AM
This is what string bikini car washes are for. I don't care if it's not summer right now.
 
2013-01-09 01:48:51 AM

morg: Darren Clink, who lives next to the former Y, used a camera to shoot video of the students and others taking debris out of the building
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Clink, who removes asbestos for a living, says his concern for the students has turned to anger at school officials.

Damn convenient to live right by the school that screwed you out of a job in favor of free (and soon to be dead) labor.


Pretty unlikely. Asbestosis, while a killer, isn't caused by a few days exposure to the levels likely to be present in a demolition site. It can take up to 20 years for symptoms to develop even in people whose jobs consisted of chronic, daily exposure in an industrial setting. ( Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001177/) Otherwise healthy kids breathing some dust outdoors for two or three days are probably not in any danger.

Which doesn't let the school officials off the hook. They should be sued right out of their holy socks. But don't go burying the kids yet. They should be just fine.
 
2013-01-09 01:49:19 AM
if you're not exposed to asbestos at a young age, just how do you become immune to it later in life, huh?
 
2013-01-09 01:49:47 AM
Asbestos is dangerous only if is a certain particle size. Otherwise it is inert.
 
2013-01-09 01:57:10 AM

phartman: Asbestos is dangerous only if is a certain particle size. Otherwise it is inert.


That's why removal is so dangerous. A "dust cloud" of asbestos-riddled debris is flirting with danger. For removal, they usually get it soaking wet, so it can just be picked up, instead of floating in the air.
 
2013-01-09 01:57:54 AM

Gyrfalcon:
Pretty unlikely. Asbestosis, while a killer, isn't caused by a few days exposure to the levels likely to be present in a demolition site. It can take up to 20 years for symptoms to develop even in people whose jobs consisted of chronic, daily exposure in an industrial setting. ( Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001177/) Otherwise healthy kids breathing some dust outdoors for two or three days are probably not in any danger.

Which doesn't let the school officials off the hook. They should be sued right out of their holy socks. But don't go burying the kids yet. They should be just fine.


Of course. It was a bone-headed move on the school's part, but the asbestos regulations are mainly to protect the professional crews who spend 10+ years working in those conditions. I doubt the kids will have any health problems as a result of this limited exposure, and it's obvious that the guy making a big deal about this is doing so because he has a financial interest in it.
 
2013-01-09 01:58:36 AM
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2013-01-09 02:01:01 AM
Darren Clink, who lives next to the former Y, used a camera to shoot video of the students. . . small front-end. . .

The video shows a large . . . dispersing in the air after . . .

"The entire site was contaminated with . . . and the people who were doing it were all children," said Clink. "The kids were loaded with it."


A little selective editing always serves to make the world more interesting.
 
2013-01-09 02:05:24 AM
I'm more concerned with the idea that high schoolers can be trusted with crowbars and saws to NOT destroy something important.
 
2013-01-09 02:06:40 AM

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I'm more concerned with the idea that high schoolers can be trusted with crowbars and saws to NOT destroy something important.


Yeah, 16-year-old me would've taken a good shot at the wall with the crowbar when no one was looking.
 
2013-01-09 02:13:23 AM

video man: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I'm more concerned with the idea that high schoolers can be trusted with crowbars and saws to NOT destroy something important.

Yeah, 16-year-old me would've taken a good shot at the wall with the crowbar when no one was looking.


16 year old me would have gone "THE FARK! YOU WANT ME TO CLEAR OUT FARKING ASBESTOS! WITH OUT ANY SAFETY GEAR!?"
 
2013-01-09 02:13:51 AM
More asbestos!
More asbestos!
More asbestos!

/losing to Martin Prince
 
2013-01-09 02:13:58 AM
should've left it alone.
 
2013-01-09 02:14:14 AM

fusillade762: Newt Gingrich approves.


It's so bootstrappy of them ... free child labor passed off as "volunteer" work ...
 
2013-01-09 02:14:47 AM
As one school administrator was quoted, "The savings have allowed us to pour more state dollars into vocational training for at risk children."
 
2013-01-09 02:18:23 AM
If it's a YWCA, then they should have just had the biatches do it.
 
2013-01-09 02:28:32 AM

Gyrfalcon: But don't go burying the kids yet.


I feel happy!
 
2013-01-09 02:29:46 AM

thatboyoverthere: video man: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: I'm more concerned with the idea that high schoolers can be trusted with crowbars and saws to NOT destroy something important.

Yeah, 16-year-old me would've taken a good shot at the wall with the crowbar when no one was looking.

16 year old me would have gone "THE FARK! YOU WANT ME TO CLEAR OUT FARKING ASBESTOS! WITH OUT ANY SAFETY GEAR!?"


Well, I would too. Then I would've farked shiat up.
 
2013-01-09 02:40:08 AM
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All kids, all abestos, all the time!
 
2013-01-09 02:42:26 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Shocking that the footage was recorded by a "concerned citizen" who just happens to own an asbestos removal company. I'm sure that was just a koinkidink.


News report said he filmed it from his porch/deck/whatever it was called. The coincidence is that he owns an asbestos removal company and a piece of property next to the school. At first I thought the same thing but I don't see anything suspicious there.

Plenty of reason to report it just because of the kids bit and the fact he does have to follow the law. I'd be somewhat pissed too if I saw someone getting away with something I can't but throw the kids in the mix and I'd be all over it.
 
2013-01-09 02:44:45 AM
They're skilled asbestos workers. They're essential.

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2013-01-09 02:46:49 AM
Religious teaching - is there anything more stupid?
I mean other than discarding scientific evidence in favour of using unprotected child labour to remove cancer-causing materials?
Maybe the sky-fairy will protect them, just like he does with tsunami victims.
 
2013-01-09 03:05:51 AM
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What Asbestos may look like..
 
2013-01-09 03:54:26 AM
The guy that called the authorities on them is someone that removes asbestos for a living. I wonder if there's a side story here where they declined his services, he felt snubbed and narked. Sure, this was incredibly stupid and they need to be punished, but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?
 
2013-01-09 04:01:26 AM

justoneznot: but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?


Well, you see, it's a service people need, and so people start businesses that provide that service, and the people who run and work for that company use the money they make to buy homes. So when a trained asbestos employee stepped out of his home, looked across the way, and saw what was going on he was able to identify the a safety hazard most people would not have noticed. . .honestly, you need this explained?
 
2013-01-09 04:09:20 AM

Cozret: justoneznot: but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?

Well, you see, it's a service people need, and so people start businesses that provide that service, and the people who run and work for that company use the money they make to buy homes. So when a trained asbestos employee stepped out of his home, looked across the way, and saw what was going on he was able to identify the a safety hazard most people would not have noticed. . .honestly, you need this explained?


Yeah I could see that as well, you might be right. I was just wondering if there might be a side story.
 
2013-01-09 04:18:22 AM

justoneznot: The guy that called the authorities on them is someone that removes asbestos for a living. I wonder if there's a side story here where they declined his services, he felt snubbed and narked. Sure, this was incredibly stupid and they need to be punished, but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?


Eh, snubbed or no this guy was fully justified. He does hazardous work for a living. Pawning it off to a bunch of kids is downright stupid and dangerous.
 
2013-01-09 04:37:37 AM
14th thing people should stop doing this year: stop putting auto-play videos on websites.
 
2013-01-09 04:51:43 AM

20/20: 14th thing people should stop doing this year: stop putting auto-play videos on websites.


Oh god yes.
 
2013-01-09 05:12:18 AM
Wow, some of you people are just ignorant.  The symptoms of asbestos related diseases may take 20 or more years to show up, but that doesn't mean you need to be exposed for that long or to large amounts of asbestos to get them.
 
2013-01-09 05:15:51 AM

bubbernuts: [intensities.files.wordpress.com image 384x288]

All kids, all abestos, all the time!


Came here to post this. My work here is done.
 
2013-01-09 05:57:59 AM

ReapTheChaos: Wow, some of you people are just ignorant.  The symptoms of asbestos related diseases may take 20 or more years to show up, but that doesn't mean you need to be exposed for that long or to large amounts of asbestos to get them.


Isent asbestos exposure worse for young people as well since their lungs arent done growing yet? I would think that that growth would lead to increased risk of cancer and asbestosis lesions after exposure...
 
2013-01-09 06:09:43 AM
All these science spheres are made of asbestos by the way, keeps out the rats. Let us know if you feel a shortness of breath, a persistent dry cough or your heart stopping, because that's not part of the test - that's asbestos.

Good news is, the lab boys say the symptoms of asbestos poisoning show a median latency of forty-four point six years, so if you're thirty or older, you're laughing. Worst case scenario, you miss out on a few rounds of canasta, plus you forwarded the cause of science by three centuries. I punch those numbers into my calculator and it makes a happy face.


Alright this next test may involve trace amounts of time travel. So word of advice: if you meet yourself on the testing track don't make eye contact. Lab boys tell me that'll wipe out time - entirely. Forward and backward. So do both of yourselves a favor and let that handsome devil go about his business.

Oh, in case you got covered in that repulsion gel, here's some advice tha lab-boys gave me: [paper rustling] do not get covered in the repulsion gel!

Those of you helping us test the repulsion gel today, just follow the blue line on the floor. Those of you who volunteered to be injected with praying mantis DNA, I've got some good news and some bad news: bad news is we're postponing those tests indefinitely. Good news is we've got a much better test for you: fighting an army of mantis men. Pick up a rifle and follow the yellow line. You'll know when the test starts.

Just a heads up: that coffee we gave you earlier had fluorescent calcium in it so we can track the neuronic activity in your brain. There's a slight chance the calcium could harden and vitrify your frontal lobe. Anyway, don't stress yourself thinking about it. I'm serious, visualizing the scenario while under stress actually triggers the reaction.

Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!
 
2013-01-09 06:16:53 AM
Came for Beavis and Butthead, leaving disappointed.
 
2013-01-09 06:17:00 AM

justoneznot: The guy that called the authorities on them is someone that removes asbestos for a living. I wonder if there's a side story here where they declined his services, he felt snubbed and narked. Sure, this was incredibly stupid and they need to be punished, but how is it that the guy that just so happened to video tape this is an asbestos removal guy?


Likely because people who remove asbestos for a living understand the types of buildings likely to contain it, and recognize its properties more readily than someone who knows nothing about it.

I'm on an asbestos exposure registry after exposure in the workplace. In our case, it was recognized by an architect -- a person who knows building materials and eras.
 
2013-01-09 06:36:12 AM
These is what happens when we allow prayer in schools.
 
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