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cygnusx13		2013-01-09 12:38:08 AM

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

well there's:

4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.

NewportBarGuy		2013-01-09 12:41:06 AM

stuffy: CNN the liberal Fox News.

GoldSpider		2013-01-09 12:41:54 AM

This guy is offensive to shiathouse rats.

hubiestubert		2013-01-09 12:41:59 AM

cygnusx13: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

well there's:

4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.

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Phoenix_M		2013-01-09 12:42:35 AM

Lucky LaRue		2013-01-09 12:43:07 AM

Clutch2013		2013-01-09 12:44:05 AM

MadSkillz		2013-01-09 12:47:34 AM

I'm waiting for him to drop the J word and get totally discredited.

Ruiizu		2013-01-09 12:48:20 AM

His delivery style is that of a lunatic. Always the sane look like psychopaths in a world ruled by the insane.

/and yes guns are for killing politicians and corrupt rulers
//guns keep people like the Huns from ruling again

cygnusx13		2013-01-09 12:49:49 AM

Ima4nic8or: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

or 4) Morgan just wants to speak to the guy that wants him deported and hear his reasoning.

oh, dammitall

Seth'n'Spectrum		2013-01-09 12:56:10 AM

MadSkillz: I'm waiting for him to drop the J word and get totally discredited.

Jelly?

VJStinger		2013-01-09 12:59:22 AM

stuffy: Yes lets have a civil and rational discussion on gun control.
But who can we get to advocate for gun owners?
I know just the guy!
CNN the liberal Fox News.

Eh... CNN is simply inept, though I would hardly be so quick to compare them to Fox noise.

BSABSVR		2013-01-09 01:00:04 AM

mirazh1976: STUDY IT OUT

Link

Why is it that before I even mouseover the link, I know it's going to be a youtube video?

Is there a conspiracy theorist out there who has ever created a transcript of anything?

BSABSVR		2013-01-09 01:01:07 AM

BillyRayBob: Yes

Stupid frerriners all sayin' stuff.

Marcintosh		2013-01-09 01:02:37 AM

If we give teachers guns then librarians will want them too!

He seemed so scared up on the stage. Not that he was afraid of being on tv but that he was a fearful man.

I wonder if he ever thought about trying to make his community better by using all that energy in a positive way?

Sorry, I'll just get my things and go . . .

VJStinger		2013-01-09 01:03:07 AM

BSABSVR: mirazh1976: STUDY IT OUT

Link

Why is it that before I even mouseover the link, I know it's going to be a youtube video?

Is there a conspiracy theorist out there who has ever created a transcript of anything?

dude, don't make me link to the time cube...

dognose4		2013-01-09 01:03:47 AM

The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.

BSABSVR		2013-01-09 01:05:39 AM

VJStinger: dude, don't make me link to the time cube...

Damn. Got me there.

pagansexgod		2013-01-09 01:05:48 AM

BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Thank God there is another American that agrees with me that free speech is only protected under the constitution for Americans and foreign nationals have no right to express their opinion in any shape or form in America! Because God forbid a man from a country where guns are controlled tightly and mass gun deaths are rare should inject any kind of sanity into a debate about guns with people like Alex Jones. God bless the 1st Amendment (as long as you are not a stinky foreigner)

Mr. Coffee Nerves		2013-01-09 01:05:55 AM

If you go on Facebook his entire rant from the show has been broken up into roughly 58 status updates decorated with glittery crying eagles being ridden by Ted Nugent and a topless rendition of that chick from CSI

moothemagiccow		2013-01-09 01:06:39 AM

if that many people wanted him dead, he wouldnt likely be drawing breath.

Digital Communist		2013-01-09 01:09:50 AM

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.

So you think the military is too incompetent to defend the country, traitor?

US gun nuts are scary on an individual basis, I give them that, they could pop up anywhere and start shooting. But this notion that they might rise up to fight off an attempted government move to fascism or an invasion is simply ludicrous. I don't trust these people to tie their shoes in the morning let alone take on an organized force, especially one that has napalm and apache helicopters.

Gun nuts give themselves vastly more credit than their grade school education affords them.

jaytkay		2013-01-09 01:09:58 AM

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.

And murdering a classroom of 6-year-olds, or a movie theater filled with Batman fans.

Seth'n'Spectrum		2013-01-09 01:10:08 AM

This joke has probably already been made, but I just suddenly realized what these threads have been missing:

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Twizang		2013-01-09 01:11:18 AM

dickfreckle: "Hatriots?" I don't like these assholes and their typical audience either, but that sounds petty even by blog standards. And I'm one of the biggest libtards here.

Most of my posts are laced with profanity and bad jokes about Republican genitalia, but when writing a column, even for a blog, you gotta keep your sh*t in line. In other words, [yourenothelping.jpg]

Qft

pagansexgod		2013-01-09 01:12:14 AM

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.

So if we get attacked by geese we are screwed

HBK		2013-01-09 01:14:55 AM

VJStinger: stuffy: Yes lets have a civil and rational discussion on gun control.
But who can we get to advocate for gun owners?
I know just the guy!
CNN the liberal Fox News.

Eh... CNN is simply inept, though I would hardly be so quick to compare them to Fox noise.

CNN's Sandy Hook coverage was extremely uninformed and obviously pro gun control.

For example "we don't know whether Lanza was living with his mother." That's something anybody with an internet connection and a little knowledge could find out in two minutes. As soon as they said that, I had Lanza and Lanza's mother's home address in about that time. Then they said he shot them with an AR, revised to the AR was in the car and he only had two pistols, revised to he had two pistols and an AR in the school. Then there was the whole interviewing survivors thing. Seriously utterly terrible "journalism."

If they weren't trying to push an agenda, they wouldn't have had anything to report. They also wouldn't have shiat for ratings. It's the exact same as Fox News. Both just spout the crap they think their side of the political spectrum wants to hear and claims it's news.

kd8our		2013-01-09 01:15:29 AM

I don't know what is more interesting to listen to. Alex Jones ranting about the interview or the numbers station (Cuban?) I just heard blasting on 5.855mhz. Always something crazy to listen to on the HF bands. I could care less about Piers Morgan, but if you think Alex Jones has much sanity you need to seek help.

Phoenix_M		2013-01-09 01:20:40 AM

pagansexgod: BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Thank God there is another American that agrees with me that free speech is only protected under the constitution for Americans and foreign nationals have no right to express their opinion in any shape or form in America! Because God forbid a man from a country where guns are controlled tightly and mass gun deaths are rare should inject any kind of sanity into a debate about guns with people like Alex Jones. God bless the 1st Amendment (as long as you are not a stinky foreigner)

Piers Morgan doesn't have free speech he's a foreign national here on a working visa not a resident alien and more specifically a journalist. The supreme court ruled on that years ago.

jaytkay		2013-01-09 01:26:44 AM

HBK: CNN's Sandy Hook coverage was extremely uninformed and obviously pro gun control.

Cuz to be fair CNN should have held back until they knew for sure the kids were shot and not poisoned or simply punched in the face real hard.

HBK		2013-01-09 01:29:46 AM

jaytkay: HBK: CNN's Sandy Hook coverage was extremely uninformed and obviously pro gun control.

Cuz to be fair CNN should have held back until they knew for sure the kids were shot and not poisoned or simply punched in the face real hard.

Or you know, done some actual research before they spouted off their ignorance. Heaven forbid someone at CNN actually do any real reporting.

Gyrfalcon		2013-01-09 01:30:38 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: On behalf of gun owners everywhere, I'd like to say this: Alex Jones does not speak for us.

Then you should really work harder to shut him up, because you need to realize that the more visible a person is and the louder he talks, the more he IS the default voice for a cause, no matter how much he doesn't represent that cause. To people who don't know much about the gun debate except what they hear as they flip the radio dial, Alex Jones DOES speak for gun owners; just like to people who don't know much about politics, Rush Limbaugh DOES speak for the Republican party and various hatemongering preachers ARE speaking for Christians. Because nobody else seems to be doing it, so far as the average uninformed person is concerned.

It's nice that you are disavowing Alex Jones; but nobody else seems to be doing it, and certainly nobody is doing it out loud or in public; so he is going to be the default spokesman for gun rights unless or until somebody saner speaks up. And sane, rational gun owners need to realize this, and realize why so many people think gun owners are all raving lunatics. It's because the ones they see on the news and hear on the radio ARE raving lunatics.

VJStinger		2013-01-09 01:34:03 AM

HBK: jaytkay: HBK: CNN's Sandy Hook coverage was extremely uninformed and obviously pro gun control.

Cuz to be fair CNN should have held back until they knew for sure the kids were shot and not poisoned or simply punched in the face real hard.

Or you know, done some actual research before they spouted off their ignorance. Heaven forbid someone at CNN actually do any real reporting.

Like I said, inept. CNN sucks ass, a bunch of incompetent assholes even, but Fox knows exactly what they're doing.

my alt's alt's alt		2013-01-09 01:34:09 AM

no one on the government's side would ever assassinate alex jones because he's such a grand whacky spokesperson for just about anyone attempting to speak out against the government. he does all the hard work of discrediting the dissenters for them. how he doesn't realize this...

oh! he must be a government agent. i get it.

VJStinger		2013-01-09 01:36:12 AM

my alt's alt's alt: no one on the government's side would ever assassinate alex jones because he's such a grand whacky spokesperson for just about anyone attempting to speak out against the government. he does all the hard work of discrediting the dissenters for them. how he doesn't realize this...

oh! he must be a government agent. i get it.

Disinfotainment at its finest! :)

moothemagiccow		2013-01-09 01:43:23 AM

cygnusx13: 4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.

There's some saying about arguing with a fool that I just can't summon at the moment

UseTheForksLuke		2013-01-09 01:44:02 AM

God Bless Alex Jones for exercising his rights!
Maybe he doesn't have the calmest demeanor;
maybe the rest of us have been drinking too
much floride in our water. Gather round your
Tories and be defeated in transformations of
the intellectual hierarchy. As they tighten the
grip on freedom, they who slip away are truely
free. Are you willing to die for what you believe
in, or live in a dictatorship that others have
given their lives to prevent? When your bet
goes wrong, at least we had Alex Jones to
stand up for thoes who no longer have a voice.
You do not have to be afraid to speak, if what
you speak of is what you believe in, and you are
willing to live for thoes beliefs.

pagansexgod		2013-01-09 01:44:12 AM

Phoenix_M: pagansexgod: BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Thank God there is another American that agrees with me that free speech is only protected under the constitution for Americans and foreign nationals have no right to express their opinion in any shape or form in America! Because God forbid a man from a country where guns are controlled tightly and mass gun deaths are rare should inject any kind of sanity into a debate about guns with people like Alex Jones. God bless the 1st Amendment (as long as you are not a stinky foreigner)

Piers Morgan doesn't have free speech he's a foreign national here on a working visa not a resident alien and more specifically a journalist. The supreme court ruled on that years ago.

Absolutely right too! We can't have none american types saying what they want whilst we americans tell everyone this is the land of the free and we have free speech, it just wouldn't be cricket would it!

The Southern Dandy		2013-01-09 01:46:38 AM

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.

Absolutely right, but doesn't change the fact that Alex Jones is a nutjob.

I'd prefer if he wasn't on my side.

VJStinger		2013-01-09 01:47:28 AM

moothemagiccow: cygnusx13: 4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.

There's some saying about arguing with a fool that I just can't summon at the moment

something something silent something something fool?

something like that.

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste		2013-01-09 01:48:45 AM

Seth'n'Spectrum: This joke has probably already been made, but I just suddenly realized what these threads have been missing:

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[olympicgirls.net image 420x620]

[media.independentmail.com image 401x603]
[i.imgur.com image 567x500]

God love ya. Suddenly thinking of one gun I won't mind grabbing.

HBK		2013-01-09 01:59:05 AM

UseTheForksLuke: at least we had Alex Jones to
stand up for thoes who no longer have a voice.
You do not have to be afraid to speak, if what
you speak of is what you believe in, and you are
willing to live for thoes beliefs.

There's a difference between discourse and ignorant bluster. What Alex Jones does, and what he did on Piers Morgan is an example of ignorant bluster. Alex Jones spoke over Piers Morgan the entire time, and made himself look the fool. If you want to win an argument, listen to the other person's points and turn them against them. Don't yell and look like an ass.

Alex Jones feeds on the fears of the stupid with his conspiracy theories. He's the loudest asshole in the room, so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. Even coming out and saying "Alex Jones doesn't represent most gun owners" is stupid because anyone that listens to him for a second should know that he doesn't represent anyone but the lunatic fringe. 47% of the U.S. are gun owners. The idea that they're all represented by a blustery paranoid schizophrenic is laughable.

Mr_Ectomy		2013-01-09 02:08:08 AM

VJStinger		2013-01-09 02:09:38 AM

HBK: UseTheForksLuke: at least we had Alex Jones to
stand up for thoes who no longer have a voice.
You do not have to be afraid to speak, if what
you speak of is what you believe in, and you are
willing to live for thoes beliefs.

There's a difference between discourse and ignorant bluster. What Alex Jones does, and what he did on Piers Morgan is an example of ignorant bluster. Alex Jones spoke over Piers Morgan the entire time, and made himself look the fool. If you want to win an argument, listen to the other person's points and turn them against them. Don't yell and look like an ass.

Alex Jones feeds on the fears of the stupid with his conspiracy theories. He's the loudest asshole in the room, so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. Even coming out and saying "Alex Jones doesn't represent most gun owners" is stupid because anyone that listens to him for a second should know that he doesn't represent anyone but the lunatic fringe. 47% of the U.S. are gun owners. The idea that they're all represented by a blustery paranoid schizophrenic is laughable.

so what are you gonna do? counter him with bluster of increasing magnitude? That is the only way you could possibly defeat him: face to face

VJStinger		2013-01-09 02:10:32 AM

Alex Jones: The Final Boss of Derp

HBK		2013-01-09 02:10:51 AM

VJStinger: HBK: UseTheForksLuke: at least we had Alex Jones to
stand up for thoes who no longer have a voice.
You do not have to be afraid to speak, if what
you speak of is what you believe in, and you are
willing to live for thoes beliefs.

There's a difference between discourse and ignorant bluster. What Alex Jones does, and what he did on Piers Morgan is an example of ignorant bluster. Alex Jones spoke over Piers Morgan the entire time, and made himself look the fool. If you want to win an argument, listen to the other person's points and turn them against them. Don't yell and look like an ass.

Alex Jones feeds on the fears of the stupid with his conspiracy theories. He's the loudest asshole in the room, so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. Even coming out and saying "Alex Jones doesn't represent most gun owners" is stupid because anyone that listens to him for a second should know that he doesn't represent anyone but the lunatic fringe. 47% of the U.S. are gun owners. The idea that they're all represented by a blustery paranoid schizophrenic is laughable.

so what are you gonna do? counter him with bluster of increasing magnitude? That is the only way you could possibly defeat him: face to face

No, you ignore fools. Like everyone else outside of his cult of personality has done, and like Piers Morgan should have done.

Abacus9		2013-01-09 02:22:03 AM

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

Or D) Jones started a petition to get Morgan deported, so Morgan put him on the show to talk about it.

UseTheForksLuke		2013-01-09 02:33:25 AM

HBK: . Alex Jones spoke over Piers Morgan the entire time, and made himself look the fool. If you want to win an argument, listen to the other person's points and turn them against them. Don't yell and look like an ass.

We've all heard what Piers Morgan has to say like a million times.
We need to get more people on the mainstream media with some
other points of view besides the bleeding heart liberals which they
all seem to be. It doesn't really matter the network, it is that anybody
that does not have the same mainstream view is a "nutjob". It kind
of reminds me of Howard Dean might have yelled, might have been
the P.A. system... might of been the closed mindedness of the press.
Don't shoot the messenger, (no pun intended), did you understand
the message? Obviously not.

He's the loudest asshole in the room, I might agree with that.

so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. I don't agree with this, as I find Piers Morgan is very irrational most of the time, Alex Jones is just what I expected. That is how he always is. Piers on an hour every day, we've heard enough of him. Maybe he should go back to the UK, give Alex his show, I'm sure it would have much better ratings.

JasonGriffee		2013-01-09 02:36:23 AM

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it had something to do with protecting yourself from your country. With America finishing off England, we needed a way to protect ourselves from allowing us to become another England. Our founding fathers wanted to protect against tyranny, and allow us to overthrow dictators.

Why with government becoming a "nanny state", do they want to take our guns (new restrictions, buy-backs, etc.)? Is it for safety, or something more? Gun control works, Just ask Adolf Hitler.

Alex Jones just got downgraded from "Nutjob" to "Slightly Odd".

HBK		2013-01-09 02:40:34 AM

UseTheForksLuke: so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. I don't agree with this, as I find Piers Morgan is very irrational most of the time, Alex Jones is just what I expected. That is how he always is. Piers on an hour every day, we've heard enough of him. Maybe he should go back to the UK, give Alex his show, I'm sure it would have much better ratings.

You may consider re-reading what I wrote. I never said Piers Morgan was rational (I don't watch his program so I have no opinion on him). What I said was rational people don't argue with him or take him seriously because his arguments are unsupported and his contentions are based on fear and a loose attenuation or understanding of the truth.

I know about Alex Jones, I watched most of his movies through 2006 (I had a crazy neighbor in Austin who insisted). He makes monsters out of shadows and profits off the fear he instills in others.

Alex Jones is as big a propagandist as CNN or Fox News. But in his defense, I think Alex Jones is too stupid to realize it.

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