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(The Daily Beast)   Alex Jones, the new face of gun rights in America, warns that he is being targeted for assassination by Michael Bloomberg's NYPD   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 214
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2013-01-08 04:42:59 PM  
this guy needs to be on TV ALL the time.
 
2013-01-08 04:43:40 PM  
This is true.  I heard it on the police scanner I hacked to get the secret frequency.
 
2013-01-08 04:46:51 PM  
forums.radioreference.com

/oblig
 
2013-01-08 05:27:22 PM  
Right.  Like they'd be that obvious.

It's bad enough he's a conspiracy nut with a huge audience.  But is it too much to ask that he be a bit more creative?  I mean, the roasted human babies wrapped in gold foil?  That's some of A material's he's got going there.  This?  Meh.
 
2013-01-08 05:45:51 PM  
The only thing better than a retard is a delusional paranoid retard
 
2013-01-08 07:39:19 PM  
If this is an act, it's Oscar-worthy.

If it's not, he's nuttier than a Snickers bar and should be institutionalized.
 
2013-01-08 07:43:03 PM  
Another responsible gun owner heard from.
 
2013-01-08 07:44:05 PM  
Reason #2432 to bring back involuntary mental institutionalization.
 
2013-01-08 07:46:33 PM  
goodandbaked.com
 
2013-01-08 07:54:23 PM  
And all because in America you aren't allowed to force the crazy people to take their medicine.  Instead they end up on a street corner talking to invisible people or becoming a talk radio host.
 
2013-01-08 08:07:32 PM  
"Hatriots?" I don't like these assholes and their typical audience either, but that sounds petty even by blog standards. And I'm one of the biggest libtards here.

Most of my posts are laced with profanity and bad jokes about Republican genitalia, but when writing a column, even for a blog, you gotta keep your sh*t in line. In other words, [yourenothelping.jpg]
 
2013-01-08 08:22:18 PM  

Apos: If this is an act, it's Oscar-worthy.

If it's not, he's nuttier than a Snickers bar and should be institutionalized.


Victoria Jackson, meet my good friend, Alex. You kids go have fun. Send me an evite when you are ready for us to save the date.
 
2013-01-08 08:44:00 PM  

FlashHarry: this guy needs to be on TV ALL the time.


He's on the radio three hours a day and has his own Internet "newscast" every night, so he's pretty available. Last Friday, he interviewed John McAfee in one of the greatest pieces of performance art ever. (About 50 minutes in) Andy Kaufman bows down to this McAfee guy. He's a fugitive software millionaire criss-crossing central America while trying to warn everybody that he's uncovered a huge terrorist plot to mass poison Americans with ricin, all while dodging every lawman in the hemisphere.
 
2013-01-08 08:59:34 PM  
Assassinated by the NYPD?  Nah.

Anally raped with a plunger handle?  Maybe.
 
2013-01-08 09:30:49 PM  
i1113.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-08 09:32:38 PM  
He needs to host Coast to Coast.
 
2013-01-08 09:34:42 PM  

flamingboar: He needs to host Coast to Coast.


I LOL'd.
 
2013-01-08 09:34:56 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Assassinated by the NYPD?  Nah.

Anally raped with a plunger handle?  Maybe.


They could just plant drugs on him and throw him in jail, too.
 
2013-01-08 09:40:28 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Assassinated by the NYPD?  Nah.

Anally raped with a plunger handle?  Maybe.



I must have missed that episode of "Barney Miller".
 
2013-01-08 09:50:22 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-08 10:28:48 PM  
That is some weapons grade crazy right there...
 
2013-01-08 10:30:37 PM  

The_Sponge: AdolfOliverPanties: Assassinated by the NYPD?  Nah.

Anally raped with a plunger handle?  Maybe.


I must have missed that episode of "Barney Miller".


Amadou you a favor and suggest you look this crime up. Not the NYPD's finest day.
 
2013-01-08 10:38:22 PM  
RIP
www.eurweb.com
 
2013-01-08 10:44:08 PM  
That man needs a warm slice of pie and a Valium.
Just so I can hear him say mmmm  MIND CONTROL mmmmm MIND CONTROL! in between each bite.

YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF SLAVES! makes for a good sign off.  It should really replace "Sincerely."
 
2013-01-08 10:48:56 PM  

hubiestubert: That is some weapons grade crazy right there...


Alex Jones is to conspiracy theorists as Westboro Baptist is to homophobes. They take it to a whole new level that can only exist at places where ous dimension intersects another dimension that can help contain that much crazy.

Jones makes his money selling stuff to dupes and schizophrenics, whereas WBC makes their money off of enraging people and then suing everyone they can.
 
2013-01-08 11:00:33 PM  

Philbb: hubiestubert: That is some weapons grade crazy right there...

Alex Jones is to conspiracy theorists as Westboro Baptist is to homophobes. They take it to a whole new level that can only exist at places where ous dimension intersects another dimension that can help contain that much crazy.

Jones makes his money selling stuff to dupes and schizophrenics, whereas WBC makes their money off of enraging people and then suing everyone they can.


Pretty much. HIS brand of crazy is salable. It drives up interest in websites, it pushes up ratings in markets, it is very much an act, but one that the rubes haven't gigged onto yet. Beck? They began to realize that maybe, just maybe, he was just working a con, but it's hard to punch a fat boy who is crying so often. Breitbart died before he could be exposed to the Idiot Brigade--or rather, before he could be exposed in such a way that he had his dick, his hand, and his agency all up in their business in such a way that they realized that he was just conning them.

That is really the sad thing. This ISN'T a good con. This isn't even a decent con. It's just spouting crazy, and hoping that a few rubes will bite, and playing the numbers that there's a sucker born every minute, and banking on having enough of them in a market that will pass on his ravings to more rubes, and build up a "movement" based on idiots playing the whisper game. It's obvious, it lacks any subtlety, and as someone who used to play a few cons back in the day--for fairly penny ante stakes, and more for fun than profit--it offends me watching someone this hamfisted.  I'll give him credit, he's making money off the gullible, and to be fair, spending it on his tripe is probably a bit less dangerous than them sinking cash into more guns and ammo, but for the same money, they could be building their own shoddily built bunkers to await the A-DERP-O-Lypse, and that is money that could be spent on real contractors and real materials. Plus, there's the chance that the shoddily built bunkers might collapse as they test them before their families are coerced into them, and that would only service the gene pool and cut down on the nurture factor of the passing on of Weapons Grade Crazy...
 
2013-01-08 11:06:20 PM  

The_Sponge: AdolfOliverPanties: Assassinated by the NYPD?  Nah.

Anally raped with a plunger handle?  Maybe.


I must have missed that episode of "Barney Miller".


Yeah, Fish could be pretty brutal.
 
2013-01-08 11:16:52 PM  
Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran
 
2013-01-08 11:21:52 PM  

cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran


When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.
 
2013-01-08 11:24:37 PM  
he's 38?  did someone get the 3,4,6 and 7 all mixed up?
 
2013-01-08 11:26:37 PM  
please tell me that was a planned event, that Jones was just putting on an act.
 
2013-01-08 11:26:51 PM  
He's like a real-life Dale Gribble, except he's also a completely awful human being dedicated to dragging as many people as possible into his personal hellscape of fearing everything.

On the upside, putting him in the spotlight will only serve to expose the main reason for resistance to gun control; that is, as Jon Stewart put it, the fear of hypothetical imaginary Hitler.
 
2013-01-08 11:27:30 PM  
The NYPD Kill List:

1) Black People
2) Alex Jones
3) Puerto Ricans
 
2013-01-08 11:31:55 PM  
If it were true that would make him the safest guy in the city. People standing 10 to 50 feet away might have cause to worry though.
 
2013-01-08 11:33:12 PM  
But Alex! I thought Jesus said you'd always be safe if you just pray to Him and believe in Him! Not to mention, you've got a gun, right?
 
2013-01-08 11:33:15 PM  
Well it's about time
 
2013-01-08 11:33:48 PM  
cdn-www.cracked.com
 
2013-01-08 11:34:33 PM  
I'm surprised more of you haven't heard of him. He's quite entertaining, if you take him seriously you're an idiot. Like GAT_00 only for conspiracy theorists.
 
2013-01-08 11:34:36 PM  
Give that man a gun!
 
2013-01-08 11:34:59 PM  
On behalf of gun owners everywhere, I'd like to say this: Alex Jones does not speak for us.
 
2013-01-08 11:37:54 PM  
Guy's nuttier than bird sh*t.
 
2013-01-08 11:38:15 PM  
Alex Jones should be prescribed an SSRI.
 
2013-01-08 11:39:26 PM  
That's paranoid even for Jones.
 
2013-01-08 11:40:02 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: On behalf of gun owners everywhere, I'd like to say this: Alex Jones does not speak for us.


Oh, yes he does my friend.  Own it.
 
2013-01-08 11:40:05 PM  
Why is this news? Alex Jones is a mainstream 2nd amendment enthusiast.

Look at the gun threads here on Fark.
 
2013-01-08 11:40:55 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: On behalf of gun owners everywhere, I'd like to say this: Alex Jones does not speak for us.


Yeh?

A friend of mine got into guns after he started listening to Alex Jones.

Before that he was just a boring hacker.
 
2013-01-08 11:40:59 PM  
It's really sad that the mentally ill are being given air time to share their delusions. The guys clearly a paranoid schizophrenic.
 
2013-01-08 11:41:07 PM  

tylerdurden217: Alex Jones should be prescribed an SSRI.


I'm not sure Zoloft would be any help. He might need Olanzapine.
 
2013-01-08 11:41:11 PM  

Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.


That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.
 
2013-01-08 11:41:30 PM  
Is it wrong that I, just this once, am hoping that he is right...and that the NYPD succeeds??
 
2013-01-08 11:43:04 PM  

FlashHarry: this guy needs to be on TV ALL the time.


Liberal media strategy: find wackos and give them airtime. Call them legit and let them rant.... Profit.
 
2013-01-08 11:43:23 PM  
Alex Jones took down the infamous "fire alarm" video where he absolutely freaked out because there was a fire alarm at his hotel.

It was amazing.
 
2013-01-08 11:44:34 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.


I'm not sure he could pass a background check.
 
2013-01-08 11:44:45 PM  
Alex Jones does not speak for any gun owner I know. He's a freak.
 
2013-01-08 11:45:42 PM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


Yes, because Jones is all by himself in that nut and kook category.

All you have to do is read the comments from this Politico article.  He is by no means alone.
 
2013-01-08 11:46:30 PM  

tjfly: FlashHarry: this guy needs to be on TV ALL the time.

Liberal media strategy: find wackos and give them airtime. Call them legit and let them rant.... Profit.


Damn lamestream MSM!
 
2013-01-08 11:48:20 PM  
www.china-tiantian.com
 
2013-01-08 11:49:20 PM  
We need to put this on the record in case the [sic] set us up."


The set us up the bomb?
 
2013-01-08 11:50:15 PM  
On one hand, I'm a big fan of anyone calling Piers Morgan a "red coat."

On the other hand:

fark Alex Jones. Discuss.
 
2013-01-08 11:51:15 PM  
His Female counterpart i.imgur.com
/She holds that phallus like device well
 
2013-01-08 11:54:32 PM  
That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


THIS! THIS thisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisthisth isthisthisthisthisthisthis
 
2013-01-08 11:55:28 PM  

ShawnDoc: And all because in America you aren't allowed to force the crazy people to take their medicine.  Instead they end up on a street corner talking to invisible people or becoming a talk radio host.


Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


Both of these.

It's getting harder and harder to laugh at some of this shiat.
 
2013-01-08 11:56:37 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: His Female counterpart
/She holds that phallus like device well


That's a man, baby.
 
2013-01-08 11:56:53 PM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


_______________

You do realize that Morgan was fired from his previous job for making up news stories and had to testify in British court on hacking celebrities phones in England, right? Morgan should be a key grip, or best boy on a set right now, not the host of his own prime time show.

Tinfoil hat, or not, Jones said the truth last night, and he was right to be a little flustered.

While those in the news proclaim a non bias and that they don't want to take all of the guns away, just "assault weapons," Diane Feinstein already introduced a bill last week that practically takes away everyone's guns if it passes. The news attempts to create this idea that we all need to just sit down and think these things out, all the while the wheels are already in motion to not just limit certain firearms, but ban them.
 
2013-01-08 11:58:59 PM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


If Morgan debates a gun owner who is well-spoken, he gets his ass handed to him (as when he tried to spar with Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America). By picking a fringe character like Alex Jones, he can portray all gun owners as kooks.
 
2013-01-08 11:59:37 PM  

wookiemonster: Tinfoil hat, or not, Jones said the truth last night, and he was right to be a little flustered.



i2.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-09 12:00:06 AM  

hubiestubert: That is really the sad thing. This ISN'T a good con. This isn't even a decent con. It's just spouting crazy, and hoping that a few rubes will bite, and playing the numbers that there's a sucker born every minute


But that's the thing... pretending to be batshiat crazy is a good con when your costs of delivery are low enough. If you want to con people one at a time, in person, you have to spend time to carefully choose a gullible rube. You don't want to waste your time with someone who catches on halfway through, and you avoid having people catch on by hiding your true intentions.

But when you con people on TV, the Radio, or Spam emails, you want the gullible rubes to choose you. You avoid having people catch on by being so blatantly obvious in your con that only the stupidest, most gullible people will even start to listen, and everyone else in the whole world ignores them.

It's the same reason that Nigerian spammers go out of their way to make it obvious that they're sending you a scam email. The only people who bother to reply are so far beyond stupid that the spammers can sell them anything.
 
2013-01-09 12:00:38 AM  
I just watched the Alex Jones & Pierce Morgan interview about 10 minutes ago. What is sad is that the Jones guy is pretty much like every NRA member I have ever spoken to and not that far right of most of most republicans. Its a very thin line between republican and full on crazy like this guy.
 
2013-01-09 12:00:55 AM  

wookiemonster: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

_______________

You do realize that Morgan was fired from his previous job for making up news stories and had to testify in British court on hacking celebrities phones in England, right? Morgan should be a key grip, or best boy on a set right now, not the host of his own prime time show.

Tinfoil hat, or not, Jones said the truth last night, and he was right to be a little flustered.

While those in the news proclaim a non bias and that they don't want to take all of the guns away, just "assault weapons," Diane Feinstein already introduced a bill last week that practically takes away everyone's guns if it passes. The news attempts to create this idea that we all need to just sit down and think these things out, all the while the wheels are already in motion to not just limit certain firearms, but ban them.


Case in point.  Jones is only saying in public what lots of people are thinking and saying in private.  Thank you for confirming this for us.
 
2013-01-09 12:01:05 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.


The real question is: Would any responsible gun dealer sell this man a weapon?
 
2013-01-09 12:01:51 AM  

Cybernetic: Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right


Alex Jones' beliefs are espoused by Republicans in office. Elected Republicans.

I am not playing the game like conservatives who say some obscure blogger represents THE LEFT!

Alex Jones is a mainstream Republican.
 
2013-01-09 12:04:24 AM  

Bucky Katt: tylerdurden217: Alex Jones should be prescribed an SSRI.

I'm not sure Zoloft would be any help. He might need Olanzapine.


F*ck that. This guy needs the big gun:

i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-09 12:04:27 AM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


or 4) Morgan just wants to speak to the guy that wants him deported and hear his reasoning.
 
2013-01-09 12:04:55 AM  

The Larch: hubiestubert: That is really the sad thing. This ISN'T a good con. This isn't even a decent con. It's just spouting crazy, and hoping that a few rubes will bite, and playing the numbers that there's a sucker born every minute

But that's the thing... pretending to be batshiat crazy is a good con when your costs of delivery are low enough. If you want to con people one at a time, in person, you have to spend time to carefully choose a gullible rube. You don't want to waste your time with someone who catches on halfway through, and you avoid having people catch on by hiding your true intentions.

But when you con people on TV, the Radio, or Spam emails, you want the gullible rubes to choose you. You avoid having people catch on by being so blatantly obvious in your con that only the stupidest, most gullible people will even start to listen, and everyone else in the whole world ignores them.

It's the same reason that Nigerian spammers go out of their way to make it obvious that they're sending you a scam email. The only people who bother to reply are so far beyond stupid that the spammers can sell them anything.


No, it's just an obvious con. Don't get me wrong, I can respect being at least up front about it, but I prefer to see folks at least show some modicum of art to it. There are standards...
 
2013-01-09 12:06:00 AM  

jaytkay: Alex Jones is a mainstream Republican.


Whilst I happen to agree that current Republicans are f*cking retarded... Alex Jones doesn't have any party but the Pity Party.
 
2013-01-09 12:07:39 AM  
For those who don't know, Alex Jones made his fame by predicting 9/11.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Hk1-BpXO8
Once you have a hit like that, you aren't ever going to let go!
 
2013-01-09 12:07:46 AM  

Princess Ryans Knickers: But Alex! I thought Jesus said you'd always be safe if you just pray to Him and believe in Him! Not to mention, you've got a gun, right?


LOL! JESUS JOKE!!! SO CREATIVE!

Alex Jones, while batshiat insane, never talks about him being religious or any religion really (other than saying it is a tool used by governments to control people).
 
HBK
2013-01-09 12:10:07 AM  
As a former Austin resident, I am sorry America. Sometimes we let the nuts get a little too weird.

BLACK HELICOPTERS!!

ILLUMINATI!!

It was fun coming home drunk some nights and catching him on public access.
 
2013-01-09 12:10:48 AM  
The guy is a hoot. If you can dig up an old shortwave radio he can be found a numerous spots on the dial. I heard him a few nights ago spouting off about being targeted. When I first found him I though my audio or radio was farked. If there ever was the perfect smoker's voice that man has it.
In my local area he comes in strong on 4840khz.

Shortwave radio, the only place crazier than the internet. Radio preachers are also a hoot. found one the other day talking about reaching the "sacrificial quota" IE the number of babies that need to be killed/aborted for Jesus to show up. He said we are nearly there, but needed to crank it up to get there faster. It's odd hearing an anti-abortion nutter hoping for more abortions so that Jesus gets here faster and stop the whole mess.
/right now I am listening to alex trying to sing Metallica. outside of a street side hobo or crack head you don't see this stuff too often.
 
2013-01-09 12:12:31 AM  
Because a man has passion over his rights. Because he yells his beliefs in the face of what he see's as opposition and oppression to his and his fellow mans freedoms, many of you jest that he is crazy.

And each of you, who call this man crazy, could not muster any courage of conviction that did not have state control or authoritarian rhetoric laced in its main stream media message.

You know, that exploitative fear of the death on CNN of those killed in your backyard, yet the silence of your concerns over the thousands of women, children AND men killed abroad as their agony and screams are silenced through war propaganda you brush off as meaningless or justified by the authorities that be.

You call yourselves liberals, democrats, republicans or just a concerned person.
You do not care, you're a statist authoritarian who has no soul or spirit of your own nor do you recognize the life around you.

You're just a clone, a carbon copy of all the sad people who think they are above it all.
You hide behind your humor, your smug online sense of omnipresence, behind your pointless drugs, your medication, your fears.

And what do you do to EMPOWER people, you don't know. Nothing, nothing of value.

You'd defend mob rule, than respect your fellow human beings rights to liberty and freedom.
You call yourselves enlightened, informed, you are not, you are only tools and entertainment pieces of your masters.

You empower no one.

Witness your own hypocrisy, your own dark humor and your own blindness in action.

Link
 
2013-01-09 12:12:58 AM  
The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.
 
2013-01-09 12:15:08 AM  

BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.


Do you need a tissue?
 
HBK
2013-01-09 12:19:03 AM  

mirazh1976: Because a man has passion over his rights. Because he yells his beliefs in the face of what he see's as opposition and oppression to his and his fellow mans freedoms, many of you jest that he is crazy.

And each of you, who call this man crazy, could not muster any courage of conviction that did not have state control or authoritarian rhetoric laced in its main stream media message.

You know, that exploitative fear of the death on CNN of those killed in your backyard, yet the silence of your concerns over the thousands of women, children AND men killed abroad as their agony and screams are silenced through war propaganda you brush off as meaningless or justified by the authorities that be.

You call yourselves liberals, democrats, republicans or just a concerned person.
You do not care, you're a statist authoritarian who has no soul or spirit of your own nor do you recognize the life around you.

You're just a clone, a carbon copy of all the sad people who think they are above it all.
You hide behind your humor, your smug online sense of omnipresence, behind your pointless drugs, your medication, your fears.

And what do you do to EMPOWER people, you don't know. Nothing, nothing of value.

You'd defend mob rule, than respect your fellow human beings rights to liberty and freedom.
You call yourselves enlightened, informed, you are not, you are only tools and entertainment pieces of your masters.

You empower no one.

Witness your own hypocrisy, your own dark humor and your own blindness in action.

Link


Calm down Alex.
 
2013-01-09 12:19:45 AM  

NewportBarGuy: BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Do you need a tissue?


No, let them go.  Let's see how Jones is just some lone kook and not representative of a great deal of those on the right in this country.  We've already got a few of his followers in this thread.  I would wager we will see a few more before it's dead.
 
2013-01-09 12:20:03 AM  
Alex Jones is the modern face of gun rights in America--until all these gun rights people give up the rhetoric and gun grabber conspiracy talk, and stop saying the exact same things he keeps saying.
 
2013-01-09 12:20:24 AM  

NewportBarGuy: BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Do you need a tissue?


I also have one that he can use if he doesnt mind that I just flogged the dolphin into it.
 
HBK
2013-01-09 12:20:44 AM  

BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.


Obviously he's still pissed about getting his country's ass kicked back across the Atlantic by a bunch of armed farmers. Those tea sipping imperialists are just trying to soften real America up so they can steal back the country.
 
2013-01-09 12:21:44 AM  
Jones is just a foot soldier for the New World Order. His job is to make gun owners seem paranoid and delusional so fewer people will care when they take away their guns.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
 
2013-01-09 12:24:39 AM  

BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.


Disturbing why? Please clarify.

Because he's foreign?

Because he is being defended?

Because you think he is the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread?
 
2013-01-09 12:24:45 AM  
Alex Jones is a nutcase. Or marketing genius, one of the two.

/Maybe both
 
2013-01-09 12:24:57 AM  
brap: That man needs a warm slice of pie and a Valium.

3.bp.blogspot.com

and valium!
 
2013-01-09 12:28:12 AM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


heystupid.files.wordpress.com
Hes not?
 
2013-01-09 12:30:17 AM  

ShawnDoc: And all because in America you aren't allowed to force the crazy people to take their medicine.  Instead they end up on a street corner talking to invisible people or becoming a talk radio host.


The thing that most drives me crazy about this whole debate is, ironically, the lack of discussion of mental health care. While idiots continue to say "If we arm people in schools they'll think twice!", they'll probably be right, they WILL think twice. Then they'll either plan and plot more carefully how to do it or they'll go to someplace that's not a school. Say, a movie theater.

If these guys get the health care they desperately need, they're less likely to kill...you know...ANYbody...

But there I go with my hippie "spend tax dollars for the greater good" ranting again...
 
2013-01-09 12:30:51 AM  

SpikeStrip: he's 38?  did someone get the 3,4,6 and 7 all mixed up?


all that nuttiness will unnaturally age you.
 
2013-01-09 12:31:05 AM  
jaytkay

BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Disturbing why? Please clarify.

Because he's foreign?

Because he is being defended?

Because you think he is the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread?


Yes
 
2013-01-09 12:31:27 AM  
Alex Jones claims Sandy Hook was a hoax perpetrated by the federal government and that 9/11 was an inside job... So who's the unpatriotic one again?
 
2013-01-09 12:33:40 AM  

jaytkay: Because he's foreign?

Because he is being defended?

Because you think he is the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread?


I think Piers is a f*cking idiot and a truly scummy human being. However, anyone who watched that "interview" who comes out on the side of Alex Jones should be f*cking committed.

That's coming from a gun owner.

Piers can say whatever he wants even if I disagree with him. Alex? He's a danger to himself and others and should be committed.
 
2013-01-09 12:33:53 AM  

The Lone Gunman: ShawnDoc: And all because in America you aren't allowed to force the crazy people to take their medicine.  Instead they end up on a street corner talking to invisible people or becoming a talk radio host.

The thing that most drives me crazy about this whole debate is, ironically, the lack of discussion of mental health care. While idiots continue to say "If we arm people in schools they'll think twice!", they'll probably be right, they WILL think twice. Then they'll either plan and plot more carefully how to do it or they'll go to someplace that's not a school. Say, a movie theater.

If these guys get the health care they desperately need, they're less likely to kill...you know...ANYbody...

But there I go with my hippie "spend tax dollars for the greater good" ranting again...


You take your logic and get the hell out.
 
2013-01-09 12:34:38 AM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


THIS.

First thing I thought when I heard about the Pier-Morgan/Alex Jones circle-jerk is that CNN has hit rock-bottom. Second thing I thought was that Jones probably has more fans than Piers, which supports the assertion that CNN has hit rock-bottom.

It makes me sad that such a show could even exist in today's society.
 
2013-01-09 12:35:43 AM  
Yes lets have a civil and rational discussion on gun control.
But who can we get to advocate for gun owners?
I know just the guy!
CNN the liberal Fox News.
 
2013-01-09 12:38:08 AM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


well there's:

4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.
 
2013-01-09 12:41:06 AM  

stuffy: CNN the liberal Fox News.


i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-01-09 12:41:54 AM  
This guy is offensive to shiathouse rats.
 
2013-01-09 12:41:59 AM  

cygnusx13: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

well there's:

4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.


1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-09 12:42:35 AM  
waipawaclockshop.co.nz
 
2013-01-09 12:43:07 AM  

BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.


i1122.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-09 12:44:05 AM  

cygnusx13: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

well there's:

4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.


This would literally be like Ellen inviting someone on their show who's rabidly anti-homosexual and doesn't hesitate to express that opinion using language that would have made Carlin blush and Louis C.K. cry.

You're not supposed to taunt dynamite monkeys. Some, you make sure you stay way the hell away from.
 
2013-01-09 12:47:34 AM  
I'm waiting for him to drop the J word and get totally discredited.
 
2013-01-09 12:48:20 AM  
His delivery style is that of a lunatic. Always the sane look like psychopaths in a world ruled by the insane.

/and yes guns are for killing politicians and corrupt rulers
//guns keep people like the Huns from ruling again
 
2013-01-09 12:49:49 AM  

Ima4nic8or: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

or 4) Morgan just wants to speak to the guy that wants him deported and hear his reasoning.


oh, dammitall
 
2013-01-09 12:56:10 AM  

MadSkillz: I'm waiting for him to drop the J word and get totally discredited.


Jelly?
 
2013-01-09 12:59:22 AM  

stuffy: Yes lets have a civil and rational discussion on gun control.
But who can we get to advocate for gun owners?
I know just the guy!
CNN the liberal Fox News.


Eh... CNN is simply inept, though I would hardly be so quick to compare them to Fox noise.
 
2013-01-09 01:00:04 AM  

mirazh1976: STUDY IT OUT

Link


Why is it that before I even mouseover the link, I know it's going to be a youtube video?

Is there a conspiracy theorist out there who has ever created a transcript of anything?
 
2013-01-09 01:01:07 AM  

BillyRayBob: Yes


Stupid frerriners all sayin' stuff.
 
2013-01-09 01:02:37 AM  
If we give teachers guns then librarians will want them too!

He seemed so scared up on the stage.  Not that he was afraid of being on tv but that he was a fearful man.

I wonder if he ever thought about trying to make his community better by using all that energy in a positive way?

Sorry, I'll just get my things and go . . .
 
2013-01-09 01:03:07 AM  

BSABSVR: mirazh1976: STUDY IT OUT

Link

Why is it that before I even mouseover the link, I know it's going to be a youtube video?

Is there a conspiracy theorist out there who has ever created a transcript of anything?


dude, don't make me link to the time cube...
 
2013-01-09 01:03:47 AM  
The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.
 
2013-01-09 01:05:39 AM  

VJStinger: dude, don't make me link to the time cube...


Damn. Got me there.
 
2013-01-09 01:05:48 AM  

BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.


Thank God there is another American that agrees with me that free speech is only protected under the constitution for Americans and foreign nationals have no right to express their opinion in any shape or form in America! Because God forbid a man from a country where guns are controlled tightly and mass gun deaths are rare should inject any kind of sanity into a debate about guns with people like Alex Jones. God bless the 1st Amendment (as long as you are not a stinky foreigner)
 
2013-01-09 01:05:55 AM  
If you go on Facebook his entire rant from the show has been broken up into roughly 58 status updates decorated with glittery crying eagles being ridden by Ted Nugent and a topless rendition of that chick from CSI
 
2013-01-09 01:06:39 AM  
if that many people wanted him dead, he wouldnt likely be drawing breath.
 
2013-01-09 01:09:50 AM  

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.


So you think the military is too incompetent to defend the country, traitor?

US gun nuts are scary on an individual basis, I give them that, they could pop up anywhere and start shooting. But this notion that they might rise up to fight off an attempted government move to fascism or an invasion is simply ludicrous. I don't trust these people to tie their shoes in the morning let alone take on an organized force, especially one that has napalm and apache helicopters.

Gun nuts give themselves vastly more credit than their grade school education affords them.
 
2013-01-09 01:09:58 AM  

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.


And murdering a classroom of 6-year-olds, or a movie theater filled with Batman fans.
 
2013-01-09 01:10:08 AM  
This joke has probably already been made, but I just suddenly realized what these threads have been missing:

static.tumblr.com

olympicgirls.net

media.independentmail.com
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-09 01:11:18 AM  

dickfreckle: "Hatriots?" I don't like these assholes and their typical audience either, but that sounds petty even by blog standards. And I'm one of the biggest libtards here.

Most of my posts are laced with profanity and bad jokes about Republican genitalia, but when writing a column, even for a blog, you gotta keep your sh*t in line. In other words, [yourenothelping.jpg]


Qft
 
2013-01-09 01:12:14 AM  

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.


So if we get attacked by geese we are screwed
 
HBK
2013-01-09 01:14:55 AM  

VJStinger: stuffy: Yes lets have a civil and rational discussion on gun control.
But who can we get to advocate for gun owners?
I know just the guy!
CNN the liberal Fox News.

Eh... CNN is simply inept, though I would hardly be so quick to compare them to Fox noise.


CNN's Sandy Hook coverage was extremely uninformed and obviously pro gun control.

For example "we don't know whether Lanza was living with his mother." That's something anybody with an internet connection and a little knowledge could find out in two minutes. As soon as they said that, I had Lanza and Lanza's mother's home address in about that time. Then they said he shot them with an AR, revised to the AR was in the car and he only had two pistols, revised to he had two pistols and an AR in the school. Then there was the whole interviewing survivors thing. Seriously utterly terrible "journalism."

If they weren't trying to push an agenda, they wouldn't have had anything to report. They also wouldn't have shiat for ratings. It's the exact same as Fox News. Both just spout the crap they think their side of the political spectrum wants to hear and claims it's news.
 
2013-01-09 01:15:29 AM  
I don't know what is more interesting to listen to. Alex Jones ranting about the interview or the numbers station (Cuban?) I just heard blasting on 5.855mhz. Always something crazy to listen to on the HF bands. I could care less about Piers Morgan, but if you think Alex Jones has much sanity you need to seek help.
 
2013-01-09 01:20:40 AM  

pagansexgod: BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Thank God there is another American that agrees with me that free speech is only protected under the constitution for Americans and foreign nationals have no right to express their opinion in any shape or form in America! Because God forbid a man from a country where guns are controlled tightly and mass gun deaths are rare should inject any kind of sanity into a debate about guns with people like Alex Jones. God bless the 1st Amendment (as long as you are not a stinky foreigner)


Piers Morgan doesn't have free speech he's a foreign national here on a working visa not a resident alien and more specifically a journalist. The supreme court ruled on that years ago.
 
2013-01-09 01:26:44 AM  

HBK: CNN's Sandy Hook coverage was extremely uninformed and obviously pro gun control.


Cuz to be fair CNN should have held back until they knew for sure the kids were shot and not poisoned or simply punched in the face real hard.
 
HBK
2013-01-09 01:29:46 AM  

jaytkay: HBK: CNN's Sandy Hook coverage was extremely uninformed and obviously pro gun control.

Cuz to be fair CNN should have held back until they knew for sure the kids were shot and not poisoned or simply punched in the face real hard.


Or you know, done some actual research before they spouted off their ignorance. Heaven forbid someone at CNN actually do any real reporting.
 
2013-01-09 01:30:38 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: On behalf of gun owners everywhere, I'd like to say this: Alex Jones does not speak for us.


Then you should really work harder to shut him up, because you need to realize that the more visible a person is and the louder he talks, the more he IS the default voice for a cause, no matter how much he doesn't represent that cause. To people who don't know much about the gun debate except what they hear as they flip the radio dial, Alex Jones DOES speak for gun owners; just like to people who don't know much about politics, Rush Limbaugh DOES speak for the Republican party and various hatemongering preachers ARE speaking for Christians. Because nobody else seems to be doing it, so far as the average uninformed person is concerned.

It's nice that you are disavowing Alex Jones; but nobody else seems to be doing it, and certainly nobody is doing it out loud or in public; so he is going to be the default spokesman for gun rights unless or until somebody saner speaks up. And sane, rational gun owners need to realize this, and realize why so many people think gun owners are all raving lunatics. It's because the ones they see on the news and hear on the radio ARE raving lunatics.
 
2013-01-09 01:34:03 AM  

HBK: jaytkay: HBK: CNN's Sandy Hook coverage was extremely uninformed and obviously pro gun control.

Cuz to be fair CNN should have held back until they knew for sure the kids were shot and not poisoned or simply punched in the face real hard.

Or you know, done some actual research before they spouted off their ignorance. Heaven forbid someone at CNN actually do any real reporting.


Like I said, inept. CNN sucks ass, a bunch of incompetent assholes even, but Fox knows exactly what they're doing.
 
2013-01-09 01:34:09 AM  
no one on the government's side would ever assassinate alex jones because he's such a grand whacky spokesperson for just about anyone attempting to speak out against the government. he does all the hard work of discrediting the dissenters for them. how he doesn't realize this...

oh! he must be a government agent. i get it.
 
2013-01-09 01:36:12 AM  

my alt's alt's alt: no one on the government's side would ever assassinate alex jones because he's such a grand whacky spokesperson for just about anyone attempting to speak out against the government. he does all the hard work of discrediting the dissenters for them. how he doesn't realize this...

oh! he must be a government agent. i get it.


Disinfotainment at its finest! :)
 
2013-01-09 01:43:23 AM  

cygnusx13: 4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.


There's some saying about arguing with a fool that I just can't summon at the moment
 
2013-01-09 01:44:02 AM  
God Bless Alex Jones for exercising his rights!
Maybe he doesn't have the calmest demeanor;
maybe the rest of us have been drinking too
much floride in our water. Gather round your
Tories and be defeated in transformations of
the intellectual hierarchy. As they tighten the
grip on freedom, they who slip away are truely
free. Are you willing to die for what you believe
in, or live in a dictatorship that others have
given their lives to prevent? When your bet
goes wrong, at least we had Alex Jones to
stand up for thoes who no longer have a voice.
You do not have to be afraid to speak, if what
you speak of is what you believe in, and you are
willing to live for thoes beliefs.
 
2013-01-09 01:44:12 AM  

Phoenix_M: pagansexgod: BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Thank God there is another American that agrees with me that free speech is only protected under the constitution for Americans and foreign nationals have no right to express their opinion in any shape or form in America! Because God forbid a man from a country where guns are controlled tightly and mass gun deaths are rare should inject any kind of sanity into a debate about guns with people like Alex Jones. God bless the 1st Amendment (as long as you are not a stinky foreigner)

Piers Morgan doesn't have free speech he's a foreign national here on a working visa not a resident alien and more specifically a journalist. The supreme court ruled on that years ago.


Absolutely right too! We can't have none american types saying what they want whilst we americans tell everyone this is the land of the free and we have free speech, it just wouldn't be cricket would it!
 
2013-01-09 01:46:38 AM  

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.


Absolutely right, but doesn't change the fact that Alex Jones is a nutjob.

I'd prefer if he wasn't on my side.
 
2013-01-09 01:47:28 AM  

moothemagiccow: cygnusx13: 4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.

There's some saying about arguing with a fool that I just can't summon at the moment


something something silent something something fool?

something like that.
 
2013-01-09 01:48:45 AM  

Seth'n'Spectrum: This joke has probably already been made, but I just suddenly realized what these threads have been missing:

[static.tumblr.com image 362x450]

[olympicgirls.net image 420x620]

[media.independentmail.com image 401x603]
[i.imgur.com image 567x500]


God love ya. Suddenly thinking of one gun I won't mind grabbing.
 
HBK
2013-01-09 01:59:05 AM  

UseTheForksLuke: at least we had Alex Jones to
stand up for thoes who no longer have a voice.
You do not have to be afraid to speak, if what
you speak of is what you believe in, and you are
willing to live for thoes beliefs.


There's a difference between discourse and ignorant bluster. What Alex Jones does, and what he did on Piers Morgan is an example of ignorant bluster. Alex Jones spoke over Piers Morgan the entire time, and made himself look the fool. If you want to win an argument, listen to the other person's points and turn them against them. Don't yell and look like an ass.

Alex Jones feeds on the fears of the stupid with his conspiracy theories. He's the loudest asshole in the room, so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. Even coming out and saying "Alex Jones doesn't represent most gun owners" is stupid because anyone that listens to him for a second should know that he doesn't represent anyone but the lunatic fringe. 47% of the U.S. are gun owners. The idea that they're all represented by a blustery paranoid schizophrenic is laughable.
 
2013-01-09 02:08:08 AM  
media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-09 02:09:38 AM  

HBK: UseTheForksLuke: at least we had Alex Jones to
stand up for thoes who no longer have a voice.
You do not have to be afraid to speak, if what
you speak of is what you believe in, and you are
willing to live for thoes beliefs.

There's a difference between discourse and ignorant bluster. What Alex Jones does, and what he did on Piers Morgan is an example of ignorant bluster. Alex Jones spoke over Piers Morgan the entire time, and made himself look the fool. If you want to win an argument, listen to the other person's points and turn them against them. Don't yell and look like an ass.

Alex Jones feeds on the fears of the stupid with his conspiracy theories. He's the loudest asshole in the room, so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. Even coming out and saying "Alex Jones doesn't represent most gun owners" is stupid because anyone that listens to him for a second should know that he doesn't represent anyone but the lunatic fringe. 47% of the U.S. are gun owners. The idea that they're all represented by a blustery paranoid schizophrenic is laughable.


so what are you gonna do? counter him with bluster of increasing magnitude? That is the only way you could possibly defeat him: face to face
 
2013-01-09 02:10:32 AM  
Alex Jones: The Final Boss of Derp
 
HBK
2013-01-09 02:10:51 AM  

VJStinger: HBK: UseTheForksLuke: at least we had Alex Jones to
stand up for thoes who no longer have a voice.
You do not have to be afraid to speak, if what
you speak of is what you believe in, and you are
willing to live for thoes beliefs.

There's a difference between discourse and ignorant bluster. What Alex Jones does, and what he did on Piers Morgan is an example of ignorant bluster. Alex Jones spoke over Piers Morgan the entire time, and made himself look the fool. If you want to win an argument, listen to the other person's points and turn them against them. Don't yell and look like an ass.

Alex Jones feeds on the fears of the stupid with his conspiracy theories. He's the loudest asshole in the room, so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. Even coming out and saying "Alex Jones doesn't represent most gun owners" is stupid because anyone that listens to him for a second should know that he doesn't represent anyone but the lunatic fringe. 47% of the U.S. are gun owners. The idea that they're all represented by a blustery paranoid schizophrenic is laughable.

so what are you gonna do? counter him with bluster of increasing magnitude? That is the only way you could possibly defeat him: face to face


No, you ignore fools. Like everyone else outside of his cult of personality has done, and like Piers Morgan should have done.
 
2013-01-09 02:22:03 AM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


Or D) Jones started a petition to get Morgan deported, so Morgan put him on the show to talk about it.
 
2013-01-09 02:33:25 AM  

HBK: . Alex Jones spoke over Piers Morgan the entire time, and made himself look the fool. If you want to win an argument, listen to the other person's points and turn them against them. Don't yell and look like an ass.


We've all heard what Piers Morgan has to say like a million times.
We need to get more people on the mainstream media with some
other points of view besides the bleeding heart liberals which they
all seem to be. It doesn't really matter the network, it is that anybody
that does not have the same mainstream view is a "nutjob". It kind
of reminds me of Howard Dean might have yelled, might have been
the P.A. system... might of been the closed mindedness of the press.
Don't shoot the messenger, (no pun intended), did you understand
the message? Obviously not.

He's the loudest asshole in the room, I might agree with that.

so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. I don't agree with this, as I find Piers Morgan is very irrational most of the time, Alex Jones is just what I expected. That is how he always is. Piers on an hour every day, we've heard enough of him. Maybe he should go back to the UK, give Alex his show, I'm sure it would have much better ratings.
 
2013-01-09 02:36:23 AM  

dognose4: The 2nd amendment is not about goose hunting. It's about arming citizens and defending your country.


Actually, I'm pretty sure it had something to do with protecting yourself from your country. With America finishing off England, we needed a way to protect ourselves from allowing us to become another England. Our founding fathers wanted to protect against tyranny, and allow us to overthrow dictators.

Why with government becoming a "nanny state", do they want to take our guns (new restrictions, buy-backs, etc.)? Is it for safety, or something more? Gun control works, Just ask Adolf Hitler.

Alex Jones just got downgraded from "Nutjob" to "Slightly Odd".
 
HBK
2013-01-09 02:40:34 AM  

UseTheForksLuke: so people who actually have rational arguments rather than paranoid theories have stopped arguing with him. I don't agree with this, as I find Piers Morgan is very irrational most of the time, Alex Jones is just what I expected. That is how he always is. Piers on an hour every day, we've heard enough of him. Maybe he should go back to the UK, give Alex his show, I'm sure it would have much better ratings.


You may consider re-reading what I wrote. I never said Piers Morgan was rational (I don't watch his program so I have no opinion on him). What I said was rational people don't argue with him or take him seriously because his arguments are unsupported and his contentions are based on fear and a loose attenuation or understanding of the truth.

I know about Alex Jones, I watched most of his movies through 2006 (I had a crazy neighbor in Austin who insisted). He makes monsters out of shadows and profits off the fear he instills in others.

Alex Jones is as big a propagandist as CNN or Fox News. But in his defense, I think Alex Jones is too stupid to realize it.
 
2013-01-09 02:53:26 AM  

HBK: Alex Jones is as big a propagandist as CNN or Fox News.
But in his defense, I think Alex Jones is too stupid to realize it

Keep Austin Weird !
 
2013-01-09 02:54:27 AM  
You mean Alex Jones and Piers Morgan were in the same room together, and no one, not a soul, gave the order to send a cruise missile at the building? This is worse than Clinton's handling of OBL.
 
2013-01-09 02:58:38 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: On behalf of gun owners everywhere, I'd like to say this: Alex Jones does not speak for us.

Then you should really work harder to shut him up


They should also work harder to not sound exactly like him.
 
HBK
2013-01-09 03:00:03 AM  

UseTheForksLuke: HBK: Alex Jones is as big a propagandist as CNN or Fox News.
But in his defense, I think Alex Jones is too stupid to realize it Keep Austin Weird !


The weird died when the Californians invaded and killed Leslie.
 
2013-01-09 03:04:18 AM  

VJStinger: moothemagiccow: cygnusx13: 4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.

There's some saying about arguing with a fool that I just can't summon at the moment

something something silent something something fool?

something like that.


Never argue with a fool, others may not be able to tell the difference.

I think that was it.
 
2013-01-09 03:04:53 AM  

Farker Soze: You mean Alex Jones and Piers Morgan were in the same room together, and no one, not a soul, gave the order to send a cruise missile at the building? This is worse than Clinton's handling of OBL.


that wasn't real, that was tv
 
2013-01-09 03:17:48 AM  

moothemagiccow: VJStinger: moothemagiccow: cygnusx13: 4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.

There's some saying about arguing with a fool that I just can't summon at the moment

something something silent something something fool?

something like that.

Never argue with a fool, others may not be able to tell the difference.

I think that was it.


uh-huh.
 
2013-01-09 03:20:12 AM  

HBK: The weird died when the Californians invaded and killed Leslie.


Something does seem simular about them...

culturemedia.s3.amazonaws.commediad.publicbroadcasting.net

Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security.
~Benjamin Franklin
 
2013-01-09 03:21:12 AM  

VJStinger: BSABSVR: mirazh1976: STUDY IT OUT

Link

Why is it that before I even mouseover the link, I know it's going to be a youtube video?

Is there a conspiracy theorist out there who has ever created a transcript of anything?

dude, don't make me link to the time cube...


Aahh...the time cube. I knew that guy reminded me of something.
 
2013-01-09 03:24:37 AM  

Phoenix_M: pagansexgod: BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Thank God there is another American that agrees with me that free speech is only protected under the constitution for Americans and foreign nationals have no right to express their opinion in any shape or form in America! Because God forbid a man from a country where guns are controlled tightly and mass gun deaths are rare should inject any kind of sanity into a debate about guns with people like Alex Jones. God bless the 1st Amendment (as long as you are not a stinky foreigner)

Piers Morgan doesn't have free speech he's a foreign national here on a working visa not a resident alien and more specifically a journalist. The supreme court ruled on that years ago.


To anyone, foreign or otherwise, who reads this and thinks that it's true: it's not.

Armchair Scalia's are the worst.
 
2013-01-09 03:41:56 AM  

Phoenix_M: pagansexgod: BillyRayBob: The fact that Piers Morgan (a foreign national) is being held up and defended as the spokesman for the anti-gun crowd in this thread, is more than a little disturbing to me.

Thank God there is another American that agrees with me that free speech is only protected under the constitution for Americans and foreign nationals have no right to express their opinion in any shape or form in America! Because God forbid a man from a country where guns are controlled tightly and mass gun deaths are rare should inject any kind of sanity into a debate about guns with people like Alex Jones. God bless the 1st Amendment (as long as you are not a stinky foreigner)

Piers Morgan doesn't have free speech he's a foreign national here on a working visa not a resident alien and more specifically a journalist. The supreme court ruled on that years ago.


Oh, well, can't have those pesky furrin press people exercising freedom of speech. Oh, by the way, yeah, while he's in your country legally, he is afforded all of the protections of the constitution tha a citizen has. Why else do you think Guantanamo Bay exists? It is not part of the US, so the US isn't legally bound by its own rule of law in its treatment of the prisoners there. Bullshait, and morally reprehensible, but, there you go.
 
2013-01-09 03:44:58 AM  
And when he winds up dead?
 
2013-01-09 03:58:58 AM  
considering all the things the NYPD has been caught doing over the last decade or so, i wouldnt put it beyond them.
 
2013-01-09 04:07:09 AM  

NephilimNexus: And when he winds up dead?


He will become a martyr for a non-existent cause which will only to fade into the background of American history as a crackpot and hack not worthy of recognition.
 
2013-01-09 04:07:10 AM  

Diogenes: Right.  Like they'd be that obvious.

It's bad enough he's a conspiracy nut with a huge audience.  But is it too much to ask that he be a bit more creative?  I mean, the roasted human babies wrapped in gold foil?  That's some of A material's he's got going there.  This?  Meh.


He's not a nut; he's a showman. And a pretty good one at that. I'm not his accountant, but I'll bet he makes a very comfortable living.
 
2013-01-09 04:10:17 AM  

flamingboar: He needs to host Coast to Coast.


i.adultswim.com
Say what?
 
2013-01-09 04:14:46 AM  
One thing I haven't heard Alex Jones bring up is an explanation for what we're going to do with the millions of child molesters and molested children in this country? I don't think guns or neighborhood watch are going to solve it. I'm moving away, again. I've been to Europe and Canada and dealt with the same problem.
 
2013-01-09 04:18:17 AM  

TV's Vinnie: flamingboar: He needs to host Coast to Coast.

[i.adultswim.com image 280x210]
Say what?


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
Don't touch me!
 
2013-01-09 04:24:24 AM  
I've met a lot of the Alex Jones/NWO/conspiracy nuts over the years, and I keep regretting I haven't figured out a way to exploit that craziness into money. That and I already troll conspiracy nut sites trying to post things that are too over the top even for them. Sadly most of the time people agree with me, so I'm sure I could capitalize on it, but it just seems wrong.
 
2013-01-09 04:26:16 AM  
www.firetown.com

Its a nice strategy there. Take nutbag/asshat Alex Jones and let him present very good points about human violence in general compared to actual gun violence, but also encourage him to go on his typical insane conspiracy theory warble garble in order to make his well stated points also sound crazy by association. Also this makes any pro-gun rights people look crazy, again by association.

In this interview, Alex Jones wasn't just letting his crazy side show, but his incredibly childish side. He was a complete ass. Pierce Morgan's "points" where pointless, and neither he nor Jones seemed genuinely interested in having an actual debate/interview/whatever. It was a turd fight. But Jones's "presentation" actually managed to make Morgan's argument seem like the reasonable one.

If there ever was a conspiracy against the 2nd Amendment, it is letting Alex Jones be it's spokesperson. Honestly, that might be a real conspiracy right there. Let's see if Alex Jones tells us all about it.
 
2013-01-09 04:28:23 AM  
We have to get rid of Piers Morgan. As a matter of fact, we have to get rid of all piers especially in the Frisco bay so oil tankers won't crash into them.
 
2013-01-09 04:30:22 AM  
I was wondering where Alex Jones had gone now.

He was a regular on RT news but was far to extreme for even them! He would go on at lenght about how the UN was trying to take over the country and put all you gun nuts away in secret internment camps that no body else can find with something called Agenda 21, an action plan of the UN related to sustainable development! Link

He is behind one of the movements to get Texas to secede! Most likely so he can run for president of the newly independent Texas 2.0!

When I first heard him on the radio he was paying the station for the airtime! Using money donated to him by listeners so he can keep carrying the "message" to the true unbelievers!
 
2013-01-09 04:35:41 AM  

bk3k: [www.firetown.com image 720x576]

Its a nice strategy there. Take nutbag/asshat Alex Jones and let him present very good points about human violence in general compared to actual gun violence, but also encourage him to go on his typical insane conspiracy theory warble garble in order to make his well stated points also sound crazy by association. Also this makes any pro-gun rights people look crazy, again by association.

In this interview, Alex Jones wasn't just letting his crazy side show, but his incredibly childish side. He was a complete ass. Pierce Morgan's "points" where pointless, and neither he nor Jones seemed genuinely interested in having an actual debate/interview/whatever. It was a turd fight. But Jones's "presentation" actually managed to make Morgan's argument seem like the reasonable one.

If there ever was a conspiracy against the 2nd Amendment, it is letting Alex Jones be it's spokesperson. Honestly, that might be a real conspiracy right there. Let's see if Alex Jones tells us all about it.


Hey, you guys insisted on putting your nutters on the forefront. deal with it. stop trying to blame the left/libs for your own stupidity. You dont like being embarrased by assholes like this? well then LOCK THEM DOWN! marginalize them, otherwise they get made fun of and the entire right gets painted with that broad brush because nobody said nothin. get it?
 
HBK
2013-01-09 04:39:45 AM  

VJStinger: Hey, you guys insisted on putting your nutters on the forefront. deal with it. stop trying to blame the left/libs for your own stupidity. You dont like being embarrased by assholes like this? well then LOCK THEM DOWN! marginalize them, otherwise they get made fun of and the entire right gets painted with that broad brush because nobody said nothin. get it?


He's already been marginalized. He's a fringe conspiracy theorist.

Piers Morgan made himself look like a nutter merely by having Alex Jones on his show.
 
2013-01-09 05:02:43 AM  

Tor_Eckman: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

Yes, because Jones is all by himself in that nut and kook category.

All you have to do is read the comments from this Politico article.  He is by no means alone.


I can almost smell the crazy coming off that articles comments!

I'm torn. Piers Morgan is a humongous a-hole, and the further away from us Brits the better, however I would live him to be publicly shamed on a national level in the US.
 
2013-01-09 05:05:16 AM  
yeah, no way in hell you're gonna get me to actually defend Piers. He was indeed an idiot for having that jackass on his show. there, you happy?
 
2013-01-09 05:29:48 AM  

HBK: Piers Morgan made himself look like a nutter merely by having Alex Jones on his show.


Piers Morgan did a good job by letting him on his show. Jones is a seriously disturbed individual and the interview made perfectly clear that some form of regulation is needed to avoid these kind of crackpots to have guns, let alone 50 of them.
 
2013-01-09 05:40:50 AM  

VJStinger: bk3k:If there ever was a conspiracy against the 2nd Amendment, it is letting Alex Jones be it's spokesperson. Honestly, that might be a real conspiracy right there. Let's see if Alex Jones tells us all about it.

Hey, you guys insisted on putting your nutters on the forefront. deal with it. stop trying to blame the left/libs for your own stupidity. You dont like being embarrased by assholes like this? well then LOCK THEM DOWN! marginalize them, otherwise they get made fun of and the entire right gets painted with that broad brush because nobody said nothin. get it?


"You guys" my ass. I'm pretty leftist on most issues(or I should say I'm just anti-right winger). But I am pro-2nd Amendment. I'm one of those people who actually supports the WHOLE constitution instead of cherry-picking. That of course means I support the clear and obvious Separation of Church and State.

I don't care about the right wing getting painted with a broad brush, they deserve it. But I have a problem with YOU. Look at what I actually posted. There is NOTHING there to indicated that I am a Conservatard. But I clearly indicated that I am not against guns and you just assume as much.

The wingers may go extra crazy/paranoid on the whole gun issue - "OBAMA'S GONNA TAKE UR GUNS AND RAPE YOUR WHITE DAUGHTERS" etc - but support of the right to bear arms is NOT a partisan issue you farking hack.
 
2013-01-09 06:03:04 AM  
I have AJ on my death list this year.
 
2013-01-09 06:08:56 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: On behalf of gun owners everywhere, I'd like to say this: Alex Jones does not speak for us.

Then you should really work harder to shut him up, because you need to realize that the more visible a person is and the louder he talks, the more he IS the default voice for a cause, no matter how much he doesn't represent that cause. To people who don't know much about the gun debate except what they hear as they flip the radio dial, Alex Jones DOES speak for gun owners; just like to people who don't know much about politics, Rush Limbaugh DOES speak for the Republican party and various hatemongering preachers ARE speaking for Christians. Because nobody else seems to be doing it, so far as the average uninformed person is concerned.

It's nice that you are disavowing Alex Jones; but nobody else seems to be doing it, and certainly nobody is doing it out loud or in public; so he is going to be the default spokesman for gun rights unless or until somebody saner speaks up. And sane, rational gun owners need to realize this, and realize why so many people think gun owners are all raving lunatics. It's because the ones they see on the news and hear on the radio ARE raving lunatics.


Alex Jones doesn't speak for anyone. He is a weapons-grade nutjob/troll.
 
2013-01-09 06:20:35 AM  
FTA: "But the real mystery is why this manifestly unstable personality manages to claim any role in civic debates at all."

Protip: Writing articles about him doesn't help.
 
2013-01-09 06:25:15 AM  
Well here we are again
It's always such a pleasure
Remember when you tried
to kill me twice?
Oh how we laughed and laughed
Except I wasn't laughing
Under the circumstances
I've been shockingly nice

You want your freedom?
Take it
That's what I'm counting on

I used to want you dead
but
Now I only want you gone

She was a lot like you
(Maybe not quite as heavy)
Now little Caroline is in here too
One day they woke me up
So I could live forever
It's such a shame the same
will never happen to you

You've got your
short sad
life left
That's what I'm counting on
I'll let you get right to it
Now I only want you gone

Goodbye my only friend
Oh, did you think I meant you?
That would be funny
if it weren't so sad
Well you have been replaced
I don't need anyone now
When I delete you maybe
[REDACTED]
(I'll stop feeling so bad)

Go make some new disaster
That's what I'm counting on
You're someone else's problem
Now I only want you gone
Now I only want you gone
Now I only want you...
gone
 
2013-01-09 06:42:58 AM  
bill hicks never died, he's just gotten a new haircut and has gone off on a andy kaufmann tangent that he can't stop.
 
2013-01-09 06:51:27 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: On behalf of gun owners everywhere, I'd like to say this: Alex Jones does not speak for us.

Then you should really work harder to shut him up, because you need to realize that the more visible a person is and the louder he talks, the more he IS the default voice for a cause, no matter how much he doesn't represent that cause.


Why should I "shut him up"? I believe in the 1st Amendment as much as I believe in the 2nd. He has every right to make a public spectacle of himself, just as I have the right to disavow any association with him. It should be obvious to any rational person that he is a fringe element and probably shouldn't be taken seriously. Do you believe that Al Sharpton speaks for the black community? Because I can show you lots of black people who claim that he doesn't, no matter how much he would have you believe that he does. Should they "shut him up"? How would that work, exactly, anyway? Duct tape?
 
2013-01-09 07:24:45 AM  
Since when is Alex freakin' Jones "The new face of gun rights in America"? And I suppose Piers Morgan is now the new face of gun control in America as well?
Let's stop screwing around here. If we're going to reduce this debate to the lowest common denominator, let's just pit Paris Hilton against Charles Manson and call it good.
 
2013-01-09 07:24:51 AM  
Why do we keep encouraging this kind of crap? Conspiracy theories are a major red flag for mental illness and most people know that. These people need treatment and medication not more publicity.
 
2013-01-09 07:37:44 AM  
"Us"

So tired of these assholes who get to have their cake and eat it too. Jones will freely push his jibber jabber about 1776 and the DEATH OF AMERICA~!, fomenting his brand of money-spinning, rebellious stupidity safe in the knowledge that the black helicopters will never actually come for him. I wish the mafia coming to get him would just tell him to STFU and go into hiding.
 
2013-01-09 07:39:59 AM  

rev. dave: Why do we keep encouraging this kind of crap? Conspiracy theories are a major red flag for mental illness and most people know that.


Most people believe the conspiracy (crime involving more than one person) theory (no facts have been produced) that Al Qaeda was behind 9/11. But, I guess believing a conspiracy theory is OK as long as peer pressure requires one to go along with it or be ridiculed.
 
2013-01-09 07:51:31 AM  
Alex Jones is the face of Alex Jones, nothing more.

Like most "radio personalities", his schtick is for entertainment value only. You need to listen to him with a shortwave radio to get the full clandestine flavor, btw.
 
2013-01-09 07:53:46 AM  

dittybopper: Like most "radio personalities", his schtick is for entertainment value only.


So's Fox News.

Even Fox News itself suggests this, incidentally.
 
2013-01-09 07:56:47 AM  

hubiestubert: cygnusx13: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

well there's:

4) Morgan invited him on because he's been criticized by Jones prior to this interview and wanted to debate him on the issue.

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 600x464]


Piers Morgan is ALL OF THE ABOVE. That's why we want America to keep that coont away from us.
 
2013-01-09 08:26:30 AM  
Wait. Liberals are trying to make jones the face? He created a petition online. That does not make him the face. Is this the ultimaye strawman from the left?

Wow. Liberals really do have such weak arguments they are explicit in which strawman representatives they will address.
 
2013-01-09 08:44:56 AM  
Subby, thats like saying Cynthia Mckinney is the face of the Democratic party.
 
2013-01-09 09:12:39 AM  

Joe Blowme: Subby, thats like saying Cynthia Mckinney is the face of the Democratic party.


a) she's not on TV anywhere and hasn't been for a long, long time
b) she was booted out of the democratic party
c) i'm guessing the headline is sliiiiiiightly sarcastic
 
2013-01-09 09:30:36 AM  

MyRandomName: Wait. Liberals are trying to make jones the face? He created a petition online. That does not make him the face. Is this the ultimaye strawman from the left?

Wow. Liberals really do have such weak arguments they are explicit in which strawman representatives they will address.


I classify weak arguments as any arguments that feel the need to blame a political party/philosophy by the second word.
 
2013-01-09 09:44:46 AM  
I feel sorry for a friend of mine. We work in a security heavy industry. She personally knows the not-crazy relatives of Alex Jones (the whole family isn't bugnuts). She will eventually need her Q from the DOE. I kinda wish I could see the expression on the OPM interviewer's face when she name drops Alex Jones.
 
2013-01-09 09:49:16 AM  
As someone who is a supporter of gun rights, I hope they do. People like him do more to harm the cause than any outspoken gun-grabber ever could. That's one thing I'll never understand about the "new" American right. They just absolutely do not get that putting your craziest, loudest, most mentally unstable paranoid-delusional person in front of the camera just makes you look stupid and actually drives people away from your cause. The other side usually doesn't even have to debate them. Just toss out a little troll bait and make sure the cameras are rolling when the guy freaks out and starts spewing the crazy. If I were a little more paranoid, I would swear that people like Alex Jones and the vapid twunts on Fox and Friends are actually liberal plants doing a Colbert-style character in order to discredit conservatism in it's entirety. Unfortunately, I think the people in charge over at Fox News just really are that clueless and/or greedy. They figured out a long time ago that Honey Boo Boo sells better these days than Nova, so in a quest for ratings they abandoned journalism and integrity to become a hybrid reality show/Maury-type infotainment. Their quest for short-term profit is undermining their larger cause, but they're too busy cashing the paychecks to notice or care, and since they are the official mouthpiece for the Republican party, that whole philosophy has bled over and polluted the rest of the right wing.
 
2013-01-09 09:55:50 AM  
No matter the source, how could it surprise anyone that Nurse bloomturd would do this?

We need a new standard for evil when discussing Nurse bloomturd. Nothing in this or any language can convey it.
 
2013-01-09 10:17:16 AM  

MyRandomName: Wait. Liberals are trying to make jones the face? He created a petition online. That does not make him the face. Is this the ultimaye strawman from the left?

Wow. Liberals really do have such weak arguments they are explicit in which strawman representatives they will address.


I think it is far less about trying to "make" him a face, as opposed to "laughing at the Idiot Who Is Grifting His Way Thtough Life"...
 
2013-01-09 10:19:37 AM  

mod3072: If I were a little more paranoid, I would swear that people like Alex Jones and the vapid twunts on Fox and Friends are actually liberal plants doing a Colbert-style character in order to discredit conservatism in it's entirety.


I think you are past paranoid.


Think about what just happened. A left wing pundit, on a left wing network invited an internet conspiracy talk show host onto the program to debate a topic that a lot of folks on the left and right agree on, and you are blaming FOX and other right wingers? How the hell did FOX get Jones booked on CNN?


As someone that is on the right, I guess I should have called party headquarters and had them pull Jones off the air. We have that kind of power.
 
2013-01-09 11:05:10 AM  
Thread is TL;DR.

I am a gun owner. I dont think any new laws need to be passed. Why? We have had many shootings that have involved no new talk of gun legislation until Sandy Hook. Do we need to evaluate the way we do things in this country? Abolutely. But to me, it reeks of knee jerk reaction. Such reactions are why the USA PATRIOT Act were passed and more than ten years later we still have children being patted down by GED toting all stars. I am not against reasonable legislation to keep criminals at bay. You arent going to save a single life by restricting magazines to 10 rounds.

All of that said, this guy is a farking lunatic. Why do gun owners always cling to the craziest mouthpieces they can find? Endorsing Romney for prez, now this guy? This whackjob? This is why we cannot have nice things.
 
2013-01-09 11:20:00 AM  

internut scholar: mod3072: If I were a little more paranoid, I would swear that people like Alex Jones and the vapid twunts on Fox and Friends are actually liberal plants doing a Colbert-style character in order to discredit conservatism in it's entirety.

I think you are past paranoid.


Think about what just happened. A left wing pundit, on a left wing network invited an internet conspiracy talk show host onto the program to debate a topic that a lot of folks on the left and right agree on, and you are blaming FOX and other right wingers? How the hell did FOX get Jones booked on CNN?


As someone that is on the right, I guess I should have called party headquarters and had them pull Jones off the air. We have that kind of power.


Really? If you could do that next time, that would be great. Thanks in advance.

I realize that Fox had no direct involvement in this instance, and I was being facetious about the whole "it's a conspiracy!" thing. Regardless of their lack of involvement in this instance, I still think Fox News, extremist right-wing talk radio, and people like Alex Jones do far more to hurt conservative interests than they do to help. I also realize that comparing an entire network to one conspiracy theorist isn't exactly fair and that Fox News overall may not be as wing-nutty as Alex Jones and some of the more extreme right-wing blogosphere, but they do often times attempt to lend credibility to people like that. They are the biggest player in terms of conservative media, and while they may not dictate to the rest of the extreme right, they do tend to set the tone and help shape the conversation. I just wish they did a better of moderating some things instead of catering to lunatics, which they too-often do. In this particular case though, you are correct. They had nothing to do with it. I was merely using them as an allegory for conservative media as a whole.
 
2013-01-09 11:22:53 AM  

jdcgonzalez: I am not against reasonable legislation to keep criminals at bay.


jdcgonzalez: I dont think any new laws need to be passed.


O_o

tilde
 
2013-01-09 11:41:47 AM  

mod3072: you are correct.


You could have saved yourself a bunch of typing there.

jk
 
2013-01-09 11:48:04 AM  
Wrapped up in all the derp lays a handful of decent points Jones tried, and failed, to make on the Piers Morgan show...

Having said that...

1776 WILL HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

/NYPD assassinating you Jones?
//Really?
///Couldn't have at least made it believable by saying the CIA was after you? Come on man..
 
2013-01-09 12:03:23 PM  
You mean the fat, spittle-flecked face of gun rights in America?

He's a colonel in the Keyboard Commandos. That counts, right?
 
2013-01-09 12:07:03 PM  
The gun cause couldn't have picked a better representative.
 
2013-01-09 12:52:49 PM  
FACT: You cannot get the internet to change dates when you create a page, make a post of build a website. Once done, it is IMPOSSIBLE to change timestamp dates when you create something on the internet.

So why were there FOUR WEBSITES set up 1 to 4 days BEFORE the shootings for Sandy Hook Shooting victims to make donations?

http://youtu.be/Wx9GxXYKx_8
 
2013-01-09 01:27:32 PM  
I'll just leave this here. Link
 
2013-01-09 01:41:21 PM  

mod3072: internut scholar: mod3072: If I were a little more paranoid, I would swear that people like Alex Jones and the vapid twunts on Fox and Friends are actually liberal plants doing a Colbert-style character in order to discredit conservatism in it's entirety.

I think you are past paranoid.


Think about what just happened. A left wing pundit, on a left wing network invited an internet conspiracy talk show host onto the program to debate a topic that a lot of folks on the left and right agree on, and you are blaming FOX and other right wingers? How the hell did FOX get Jones booked on CNN?


As someone that is on the right, I guess I should have called party headquarters and had them pull Jones off the air. We have that kind of power.

Really? If you could do that next time, that would be great. Thanks in advance.

I realize that Fox had no direct involvement in this instance, and I was being facetious about the whole "it's a conspiracy!" thing. Regardless of their lack of involvement in this instance, I still think Fox News, extremist right-wing talk radio, and people like Alex Jones do far more to hurt conservative interests than they do to help



There was another "right-wing" shortwave host who was doing far worse than that: Hal Turner
 
2013-01-09 01:53:00 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.

If Morgan debates a gun owner who is well-spoken, he gets his ass handed to him (as when he tried to spar with Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America). By picking a fringe character like Alex Jones, he can portray all gun owners as kooks.


That's pretty funny, so Larry Pratt suggesting that arming teachers or school massacres are the only two possibilities is handing Morgan his ass? Pratt suggesting that if you aren't carrying a concealed gun, then you're just sitting there waiting to be killed.

I have to say, whatever armed gunman who's out there who's been trying to kill me for the last 43 years must be pretty damned inept because I'm been unarmed 99.9% of my life and he/she/they have still failed to kill me.

The idea that everyone who buys and uses a gun has a "desire to defend life" is totally rendered incorrect by the fact that Pratt is talking about people killing other people with guns, and yet the irony is lost on him and apparently it was lost on you as well.

Pratt suggesting that we don't have gun accidents or "those kinds of problems" as he puts it, also completely and absolutely untrue. I'm not even 2 minutes into the video link you posted and I've poked 3 holes in the ass kicking he supposedly handed out, pretty sad.
 
2013-01-09 02:18:29 PM  

SkunkWerks: jdcgonzalez: I am not against reasonable legislation to keep criminals at bay.

jdcgonzalez: I dont think any new laws need to be passed.

O_o

tilde


Thanks for pointing that out. My bad. I was not clear. No new/immediate legislation due to this one incident. Take time. Make sure the things you do are truly for good and not just to further an agenda/political career. Crime rates.
 
2013-01-09 02:31:35 PM  

jdcgonzalez: No new/immediate legislation due to this one incident. Take time.


Why? Are legislators personally aggrieved over Sandy Hook to the degree that it impairs their functioning as legislators?

Perhaps they shouldn't be seated in congress at all right now then. It's a BS excuse. Mind you, I don't think that Gun laws alone are a panacea for this issue, and I think it would be travesty not to consider other related matters- even the less sensationalized, more mundane factors.

But I think Congress is just fine to continue doing it's job. Never put off till tomorrow what you can do today.

jdcgonzalez: Make sure the things you do are truly for good and not just to further an agenda/political career.


You know, if the things I did at my job were solely to further my company's aims and not at all to further my own career, I would not, for one thing, be in the position I am in.

Why politicians' desires to further their own careers are treated in a different fashion by the public at large seems perplexing to me.

Everything politicians do is- to some extent- to further their own career. Just as our open market system is hardly based on pure altruism, neither is our political system.
 
2013-01-09 03:09:42 PM  

Cybernetic: Apos: cman: Alex Jones threads are my fav. It is the only time where partisanship can be transcended with many o' us agreeing that he is a moran

When Glen Beck lambasts you, you know you belong in a padded room.

That's what irritates me about the whole Piers Morgan/Alex Jones thing. Alex Jones is a nut and a kook, and I can only think of a few reasons for Piers Morgan to give him airtime, none of which reflect well on Morgan:

1) Morgan believes that Jones is representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is an ignorant fool.
2) Morgan wants to falsely portray Jones as representative of the political right, in which case Morgan is a disingenuous partisan hack.
3) This was a ratings stunt, in which case Morgan is sleazeball who will put anything on the air if it grabs a few extra eyeballs.


4) Morgan is as amused as the rest of us by the sheer ball of crazy.

/Let's face it, some people are asshole cynics.
//Though my amusement is partially being impressed with the sheer insanity. Damn, Jones, take your meds.
 
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