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(ESPN)   The Jets finally lead in a statistic - salary cap debt   (espn.go.com) divider line 38
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2013-01-08 04:22:24 PM  
I'm sure they also lead in the "Number of FARK greenlights" statistic
 
2013-01-08 04:24:12 PM  
How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.
 
2013-01-08 04:28:47 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I'm sure they also lead in the "Number of FARK greenlights" statistic


SO MUCH THIS^^^^

/FARK THE JETS THEY SUCK!
 
2013-01-08 04:29:45 PM  

Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.


How awesome must it be to have the best team in the league (DVOA's opinion (okay, and mine)) and still have $18.5 million, not to mention a coach that has won a playoff game and a QB that's thrown a TD pass in the playoffs?

/NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE JETS
//let's all point out that the last playoff team the Falcons faced was Washington in Week 5
///the only other one they played was Denver pre-fully-healed-Manning
 
2013-01-08 04:31:33 PM  

Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.


Difficulty: Mike Brown
 
2013-01-08 04:32:09 PM  
Jet thread #4 for January 8, 2013
 
2013-01-08 04:32:26 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I'm sure they also lead in the "Number of FARK greenlights" statistic


Dammit. I was gonna say something like "Fark, all Jets, all the time", but I can just keep on snarking on how the same subby pretty much owns the Entertainment tab with that Contact Music and Showbiz Spy dreck
 
2013-01-08 04:32:41 PM  

IAmRight: /NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE JETS


To be fair, this one isn't really a Jets article. It's an article about cap room of all teams and how they've mismanaged or managed their teams. Finally an article that isn't about the Jets or RG3.
 
2013-01-08 04:34:58 PM  

Treygreen13: IAmRight: /NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE JETS

To be fair, this one isn't really a Jets article. It's an article about cap room of all teams and how they've mismanaged or managed their teams. Finally an article that isn't about the Jets or RG3.


But it does show that by just typing the word "JETS" in a headline pretty much guarantees a greenlight. Hell there's another one coming up right after this one. Granted it's more about a Jets player's shiatty personal actions as opposed their shiatty professional actions, but still.
 
2013-01-08 04:35:21 PM  

PowerSlacker: Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.

Difficulty: Mike Brown


Yup, was going to point out that sure, they have a lot of room. No, they're not going to spend to get up to where they might be.
 
2013-01-08 04:35:36 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Jet thread #4 for January 8, 2013


#5 is 2 links up
 
2013-01-08 04:37:12 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Treygreen13: IAmRight: /NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE JETS

To be fair, this one isn't really a Jets article. It's an article about cap room of all teams and how they've mismanaged or managed their teams. Finally an article that isn't about the Jets or RG3.

But it does show that by just typing the word "JETS" in a headline pretty much guarantees a greenlight. Hell there's another one coming up right after this one. Granted it's more about a Jets player's shiatty personal actions as opposed their shiatty professional actions, but still.


Oh FFS, there's a 5th thread coming?
 
2013-01-08 04:38:10 PM  

IAmRight: Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.

How awesome must it be to have the best team in the league (DVOA's opinion (okay, and mine)) and still have $18.5 million, not to mention a coach that has won a playoff game and a QB that's thrown a TD pass in the playoffs?



pats?
 
2013-01-08 04:40:28 PM  

Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.


Was thinking that about my broncs. They don't have any gaping holes to fill and yet still have $18.5m left to spend for next year.
 
2013-01-08 04:42:47 PM  

sn0wblind: pats?


I'll be damned, the Patriots, Broncos, and Seahawks all have similar amounts of cap space. ($18.6 mil NE, $18.5 mil Den, $18.6 mil Sea)

/the Seahawks are No. 1 via DVOA
//Denver is No. 2, NE is No.3
 
2013-01-08 04:43:25 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.

Was thinking that about my broncs. They don't have any gaping holes to fill and yet still have $18.5m left to spend for next year.


I guess it comes down to whose contracts are expiring. I was hoping to see a "Dead money" stat but I'm not sure when that comes out.

In other news, my Cowboys are in trouble. Looks like the only way they can recoup even part of that is to do something about Miles Austin's expensive contract. And maybe kill Doug Free or something.
 
2013-01-08 04:46:19 PM  

IAmRight: sn0wblind: pats?

I'll be damned, the Patriots, Broncos, and Seahawks all have similar amounts of cap space. ($18.6 mil NE, $18.5 mil Den, $18.6 mil Sea)

/the Seahawks are No. 1 via DVOA
//Denver is No. 2, NE is No.3


Look at the AFC North. Everyone in it but the Steelers are doing fine on space. I'm not a Stillers fan but that seems like a bad spot to be in.

Also, only one team in the NFC East is in the black and that's Philly.
 
2013-01-08 04:47:00 PM  

Treygreen13: Look at the AFC North. Everyone in it but the Steelers are doing fine on space. I'm not a Stillers fan but that seems like a bad spot to be in.


Don't really care about that division since they all suck.
 
2013-01-08 04:47:31 PM  

Treygreen13: I guess it comes down to whose contracts are expiring. I was hoping to see a "Dead money" stat but I'm not sure when that comes out.


The only significant dead money that Denver would have to deal with would be from the McDaniels era and those, hopefully, will be off the books by now. But it is definitely going to change that Colt's number. IIRC he has something on the order of $9M a year for 2 years in dead money.

Black Monday and when the dead money stats come out are tow of my guilty post/offseason pleasures.

You really get to see the trouble the bad teams get themselves in.
 
2013-01-08 04:49:12 PM  

IAmRight: Treygreen13: Look at the AFC North. Everyone in it but the Steelers are doing fine on space. I'm not a Stillers fan but that seems like a bad spot to be in.

Don't really care about that division since they all suck.


But they sent two teams to the playoffs.

Oh right, they're in the AFC.
 
2013-01-08 04:50:31 PM  

Treygreen13: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.

Was thinking that about my broncs. They don't have any gaping holes to fill and yet still have $18.5m left to spend for next year.

I guess it comes down to whose contracts are expiring. I was hoping to see a "Dead money" stat but I'm not sure when that comes out.

In other news, my Cowboys are in trouble. Looks like the only way they can recoup even part of that is to do something about Miles Austin's expensive contract. And maybe kill Tony Romo or something.


Fixed.
 
2013-01-08 04:56:58 PM  

PowerSlacker: Treygreen13: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.

Was thinking that about my broncs. They don't have any gaping holes to fill and yet still have $18.5m left to spend for next year.

I guess it comes down to whose contracts are expiring. I was hoping to see a "Dead money" stat but I'm not sure when that comes out.

In other news, my Cowboys are in trouble. Looks like the only way they can recoup even part of that is to do something about Miles Austin's expensive contract. And maybe kill Tony Romo or something.

Fixed.


Not that they ever would, or even should consider it... but if the Cowboys really felt like they could get equal production out of Kyle Orton, Tony Romo would be an extremely attractive piece of trade bait. The team doesn't even crack the top 20 in any meaningful stat but passing. They have so many issues and are over the cap with bad players in addition to another year of that penalty levied by the Giants owner. You know there's a few teams out there that would pay out the nose for a 5000 yard passer.
 
2013-01-08 05:05:09 PM  

Treygreen13: How awesome must it be to be in the playoffs and have 55mil in available cap space going into the next season? The Bengals could be scary.


ohwaityour'reserious.jpg

The 'Cincinatti Bengals rule' is the 'no team can spend below X' (where X is the minimum combined salaries of players). Mike Brown is infamously cheap. He is not trying to win, he's trying to make money. Every dollar he spends, is a dollar he did not make. His market is small, his fanbase marks have been fed up for years. A new owner (HA) might spend the available cap. Expect the Bengals to spend the minimum every year, or as close to it as possible.

Pittsburgh and Baltimore are lucky to have the Bengals and Browns in their division. The Browns will eventually find their way. The Bengals need an ownership change before that can happen.
 
2013-01-08 05:09:19 PM  

Rhypskallion: The 'Cincinatti Bengals rule' is the 'no team can spend below X' (where X is the minimum combined salaries of players).


I thought the salary floor was like 89-90% of the cap? There's still people to bring in with 55mil available, right?
 
2013-01-08 05:11:17 PM  

scottydoesntknow: I'm sure they also lead in the "Number of FARK greenlights" statistic


Thread was over before it began.
 
2013-01-08 05:15:24 PM  
Not that anyone really cares, but the fact they are over the cap is a little misleading.

The Jets will be cutting Calvin Pace ($8.56M Savings), Jason Smith ($12M Savings), and Bart Scott ($7.1M Savings) among others. I'm sure that's true for other teams too, and the Jets have a lot of Free Agents, but getting under the cap won't be that difficult.
 
2013-01-08 05:28:04 PM  

JohnHall: Not that anyone really cares, but the fact they are over the cap is a little misleading.

The Jets will be cutting Calvin Pace ($8.56M Savings), Jason Smith ($12M Savings), and Bart Scott ($7.1M Savings) among others. I'm sure that's true for other teams too, and the Jets have a lot of Free Agents, but getting under the cap won't be that difficult.


The guys they're cutting - are they just letting their contracts expire? Or are they paying them to leave?
 
2013-01-08 05:28:20 PM  

Treygreen13: Rhypskallion: The 'Cincinatti Bengals rule' is the 'no team can spend below X' (where X is the minimum combined salaries of players).

I thought the salary floor was like 89-90% of the cap? There's still people to bring in with 55mil available, right?


I want to agree that it is 88-90%. However there is some whacky language that allows teams to roll their unspent cap money from the previous year. I have no idea if that has limits. It looks like the Bengals will roll over 55mil. And then possibly do it again season after season, for the life of the CBA.

If this is correct (and I am not sure) I think the players union was insanely stupid to sign the new CBA, and they will be striking well before the end of the agreement.
 
2013-01-08 05:33:33 PM  

Rhypskallion: If this is correct (and I am not sure) I think the players union was insanely stupid to sign the new CBA, and they will be striking well before the end of the agreement.


From what I've seen of player finances, many of them were at risk of bankrupting themselves the moment they stopped getting checks. Sounds like they didn't have much choice when it came down to brass tacks.
 
2013-01-08 05:43:52 PM  

JohnHall: Not that anyone really cares, but the fact they are over the cap is a little misleading.

The Jets will be cutting Calvin Pace ($8.56M Savings), Jason Smith ($12M Savings), and Bart Scott ($7.1M Savings) among others. I'm sure that's true for other teams too, and the Jets have a lot of Free Agents, but getting under the cap won't be that difficult.


He used to be a serious player in Baltimore. What happened?
 
2013-01-08 06:09:42 PM  

IAmRight: How awesome must it be to have the best team in the league (DVOA's opinion (okay, and mine)) and still have $18.5 million, not to mention a coach that has won a playoff game and a QB that's thrown a TD pass in the playoffs?


They're not about to go on a spending binge, though. All those great values in recent drafts are going to become not-so-great values when their rookie contracts expire. They need to get a couple of guys locked up after this season and roll whatever they can into 2014 and 2015. Even then, some good players are likely to be let go, just to enable them to re-sign the rest of them... maybe Sidney Rice, maybe Zach Miller, almost certainly Matt Flynn, who knows who else.
 
2013-01-08 06:11:11 PM  

INeedAName: JohnHall: Not that anyone really cares, but the fact they are over the cap is a little misleading.

The Jets will be cutting Calvin Pace ($8.56M Savings), Jason Smith ($12M Savings), and Bart Scott ($7.1M Savings) among others. I'm sure that's true for other teams too, and the Jets have a lot of Free Agents, but getting under the cap won't be that difficult.

He used to be a serious player in Baltimore. What happened?


Just age. Happens to the best of 'em. He was even quoted late in the season as saying he wasn't earning his salary and expected to be cut. He might play another year or two as a role player, maybe with the Jets or maybe for another team, but not at $7.1 million.
 
2013-01-08 06:14:45 PM  

Treygreen13: JohnHall: Not that anyone really cares, but the fact they are over the cap is a little misleading.

The Jets will be cutting Calvin Pace ($8.56M Savings), Jason Smith ($12M Savings), and Bart Scott ($7.1M Savings) among others. I'm sure that's true for other teams too, and the Jets have a lot of Free Agents, but getting under the cap won't be that difficult.

The guys they're cutting - are they just letting their contracts expire? Or are they paying them to leave?


They have years left on their contract. Calvin Pace will count for $11.5M against the cap for the Jets in 2013, if the Jets cut him before a certain date (March 1 or June 1, I don't know) than he will count $3M against the cap next season.

The Jets have the option of cutting Jason Smith by the same date, he doesn't count against the cap at all once he is cut. He currently will count for $12M in 2013.
 
2013-01-08 06:56:29 PM  

IAmRight: sn0wblind: pats?

I'll be damned, the Patriots, Broncos, and Seahawks all have similar amounts of cap space. ($18.6 mil NE, $18.5 mil Den, $18.6 mil Sea)

/the Seahawks are No. 1 via DVOA
//Denver is No. 2, NE is No.3


sure they have great teams and the cap space to keep them but how many Fark headlines is that worth?

when they can butt fumble and clown coach then we'll discuss their tattoos, not before.
 
2013-01-08 07:15:57 PM  

Super Chronic: They're not about to go on a spending binge, though.


Yeah, and the likelihood of losing guys makes me sad. :/
 
2013-01-08 08:19:11 PM  

Treygreen13: Also, only one team in the NFC East is in the black and that's Philly.


even with all the big spending they did last year, they're still really good at staying under the cap.
Be nice if they used some of that money to extend Maclin though.
 
2013-01-08 08:20:15 PM  

Treygreen13: Rhypskallion: The 'Cincinatti Bengals rule' is the 'no team can spend below X' (where X is the minimum combined salaries of players).

I thought the salary floor was like 89-90% of the cap? There's still people to bring in with 55mil available, right?


that floor hasn't gone into effect yet, though. I think it goes into effect this coming season.
 
2013-01-08 10:13:21 PM  

SilentStrider: Treygreen13: Rhypskallion: The 'Cincinatti Bengals rule' is the 'no team can spend below X' (where X is the minimum combined salaries of players).

I thought the salary floor was like 89-90% of the cap? There's still people to bring in with 55mil available, right?

that floor hasn't gone into effect yet, though. I think it goes into effect this coming season.


It does, and it's 90%. The 88% number was the league wide average requirement for the first two CBA years iirc.

The Browns, Bengals, Cheifs etc will HAVE to spend. The penalty for failure to spend is that all player salaries are prorated up to make up the difference. You either spend on good players or you overpay on whatever players you have.
 
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