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(The Tennessean)   Seven months after a dam was demolished to make a river free-flowing for first time in 49 years, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers recommend building several new dams along the same river's route. BRILLIANT   (tennessean.com) divider line 23
    More: Stupid, Army Corps of Engineers, Harpeth River, Williamson County, dams, Brentwood, Hickman  
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2013-01-08 04:38:19 PM
4 votes:
Building on a flood plain is only slightly more stupid than destroying a dam above houses that are built on a flood plain, but these houses were built on a flood plain protected by a dam. If you want to destroy a dam, do a thorough study about what the effects will be. Move the houses on the flood plain before you remove the dam. Frankly, I don't give a damn.
2013-01-08 04:13:02 PM
4 votes:
White man build wooden teepee in flood plain, while natives build movable housing to keep feet dry in wet season.

/You live in a flood plain, so eat shiat motherfarkers.
2013-01-08 04:27:09 PM
3 votes:
It's called a "floodplain" for a reason you stupid fools; let them stew in their own idiocy.
2013-01-08 04:18:58 PM
2 votes:
ACE is just like any bureaucratic organization. People work there because they 1. want a job 2. think the organization does good work. For most of the 20th century, one of the ACE's primary jobs was building flood control projects. That has become a primary function of the organization. Asking them to stop designing and building flood control projects is like asking them to not do their job.

If they don't do their job, then that means their job is unneeded. That can't be true because, they do good important work. In fact, they will show you what good work they do, and how much better the country would be if they had a much bigger budget

The workers at almost every federal agency I have ever dealt with are very similar in this regard.
2013-01-08 04:09:33 PM
2 votes:

vudukungfu: The ACE are a bunch of budget munchers, assholes, and boneheads.
Also, they like to break treaties.
Fark them to hell where they can DIAF.
They rest of you have a nice day full of rainbows and unicorns, however.


Ya know, I wish I could disagree. Here in Colorado, ACE has sold out to the water whores along the front range and intends to destroy one of the best parks in metro Denver, Chatfield State Park, in order to insure that those buying 35 acre ranchettes can plant Kentucky bluegrass. ACE is yet another agency serving the American people that has been subverted by the greed and ignorance of the clueless and most Americans, once again, just don't care.
2013-01-08 04:00:08 PM
2 votes:

vudukungfu: The ACE are a bunch of budget munchers, assholes, and boneheads.
Also, they like to break treaties.
Fark them to hell where they can DIAF.
They rest of you have a nice day full of rainbows and unicorns, however.


Hey, I work for USACE :(

Can I still get a rainbow unicorn?
2013-01-08 08:39:14 PM
1 votes:

jshine: I figured out how to post on Fark, so I know a hell of a lot more about civil engineering than an organization staffed by professional civil engineers.


At the wages the government is paying, the Corps of Engineers is barely getting the C grade students.
2013-01-08 06:31:30 PM
1 votes:

ha-ha-guy: That your ancestors should have fought harder?


Well, Our lawyers were good, but the lobby for the dam had more money.
We should have bribed harder.
2013-01-08 06:06:16 PM
1 votes:

gweilo8888: Somaticasual: Job Creator: Given southern Republican House members reluctance to help people who are in areas near bodies of water, I think maybe we should let the river flow and if people's lives are in the way, fark em. The budget won't balance itself and Ayn Rand would want it that way.

Heh. The Chinese and South American approaches..

Some of the world's largest dam-building and river diversion projects would like to disagree with your snark.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Gorges_Dam (among other reasons, created to "reduce the potential for floods downstream by providing flood storage space")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South%E2%80%93North_Water_Transfer_Proje c t (intended to take water from the south and transfer it to major population centers in the drier north, ie. where people need it)

Not arguing whether these projects are good or bad, btw, just the incorrect assertion that the Chinese leave their people unaided in the face of flooding or other major issues.


Actually I was referring to the fact that millions of people were (or are being) involuntarily displaced in the area those lakes now cover. The chinese were a little nicer about it (or at least quieter), but there are quite a few photos floating around of the tribal south american cultures being violently forced out of their homes and lands.

//guessing the south americans had less ghost towns to populate..
2013-01-08 05:59:33 PM
1 votes:

Wodan11: What's brilliant is they now want to do a $1.4M study to figure things out. It cost only $800k to tear down the damn dam in the first place.


It's almost like there was a catastrophic flood in 2010 that made them rethink the need for flood control while still keeping the river free-flowing.  Huh.
2013-01-08 05:17:33 PM
1 votes:

weiserfireman: ACE is just like any bureaucratic organization. People work there because they 1. want a job 2. think the organization does good work. For most of the 20th century, one of the ACE's primary jobs was building flood control projects. That has become a primary function of the organization. Asking them to stop designing and building flood control projects is like asking them to not do their job.

If they don't do their job, then that means their job is unneeded. That can't be true because, they do good important work. In fact, they will show you what good work they do, and how much better the country would be if they had a much bigger budget

The workers at almost every federal agency I have ever dealt with are very similar in this regard.


Bear in mind they also answer to whoever is running the government at the time i.e. Congress and the President.

For another example when I think of why I wouldn't want any of my proverbial children in public education it's mostly because I know a bunch of public elected Teabagger types are going to try to waste kids' time with a bunch of nationalistic revisionist history and to hell with teaching them about the scientific process, Jesus didn't use it!

In short I feel more government agencies and programs would do a better job if we didn't have to share this country with conservatives too. I mean you can also list similar shenanigans perpetrated by individual Democrats but this sort of foolishness (that is, facts be damned! ideology is king!) is more a part of the GOP platform at the part level than the Democrats.
2013-01-08 04:57:37 PM
1 votes:

sheep snorter: White man build wooden teepee in flood plain, while natives build movable housing to keep feet dry in wet season.


To be fair, a lot of us also live in movable housing.
2013-01-08 04:52:33 PM
1 votes:

error 303: Can I still get a rainbow unicorn?


I'm Cornplanter Seneca, what do you think?
2013-01-08 04:40:06 PM
1 votes:
No problem, once they get New Orleans and the rest of the delta wrapped up, eliminate the Asian carp, and remove zebra mussels from the Great Lakes I say let them spend money on low priority backwater projects.
2013-01-08 04:34:50 PM
1 votes:
Excellent. I can dispose of even more dead hillbilly rapists!
2013-01-08 04:23:25 PM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: That 2010 flood was no joke. I grew up in the area, and had to take roads I hadn't taken in almost five years to get back to Memphis from Bell Buckle, where I was doing a class at the time. A four hour drive took almost 12.


That was the worst of the worst. I know many people that lost their homes in that sh*t. My Mother being one of them.

/Lives 5 miles from the state capitol. West side.
2013-01-08 04:21:07 PM
1 votes:
This article led me to look up what a dry dam is. So thanks for that. Learned something new today.
2013-01-08 04:05:06 PM
1 votes:

Job Creator: Given southern Republican House members reluctance to help people who are in areas near bodies of water, I think maybe we should let the river flow and if people's lives are in the way, fark em. The budget won't balance itself and Ayn Rand would want it that way.


Heh. The Chinese and South American approaches..
2013-01-08 04:04:52 PM
1 votes:

error 303: vudukungfu: The ACE are a bunch of budget munchers, assholes, and boneheads.
Also, they like to break treaties.
Fark them to hell where they can DIAF.
They rest of you have a nice day full of rainbows and unicorns, however.

Hey, I work for USACE :(

Can I still get a rainbow unicorn?


If it makes you feel any better, I never had any trouble with the USACE when applying for Rivers & Harbors or CWA permit activities at a former job. Your general permit process is pretty painless.
2013-01-08 03:59:06 PM
1 votes:
"Removing the dam was touted as a way to improve the river's ecosystem" and yall keep voting Democrat... and when the huge floods come you blame Republicans for the disasters...
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2013-01-08 03:57:19 PM
1 votes:
Given southern Republican House members reluctance to help people who are in areas near bodies of water, I think maybe we should let the river flow and if people's lives are in the way, fark em. The budget won't balance itself and Ayn Rand would want it that way.
2013-01-08 03:56:05 PM
1 votes:
The ACE are a bunch of budget munchers, assholes, and boneheads.
Also, they like to break treaties.
Fark them to hell where they can DIAF.
They rest of you have a nice day full of rainbows and unicorns, however.
2013-01-08 02:56:23 PM
1 votes:
That 2010 flood was no joke. I grew up in the area, and had to take roads I hadn't taken in almost five years to get back to Memphis from Bell Buckle, where I was doing a class at the time. A four hour drive took almost 12.
 
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