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(BBC)   HI there I'm Ricky Bobby. And I'm Cal Naughton Jr. We like to have fun out there on the race track, but there's something we have to tell you. Packs of vicious stray dogs are controlling most of the major cities of Mexico   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 93
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2013-01-08 05:44:48 PM

sxacho: Once more into the fray
Into the last good fight I'll ever know
Live and Die on this day
Live and Die on this day


great ending
 
2013-01-08 05:44:49 PM

Vectron: [25.media.tumblr.com image 603x437]


hmm...I don't get what House has to do with this
 
2013-01-08 05:44:57 PM

bikerific: Also, why does TFA headline have "kills four" in quotes?

Mexican pack of stray dogs 'kills four' in park


They don't speak American down there, sum kina Mexican talk down that way.
 
2013-01-08 05:45:30 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!:
Years ago I was crossing the Navajo Nation and stopped in Kayenta, near Monument Valley. There was a large dead dog, Rott-mix, laying in the parking lot. Stiff, legs in the air, stinky. Tons of locals completely ignoring it, kids running around, etc. Fairly shocking to someone who's never experienced the cultural indifference to animals that many Native American's share. Enlightening place, the Navajo Nation.


Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms.

www.wearysloth.com
 
2013-01-08 05:49:34 PM

mongbiohazard:
Packs of dogs can be very, very dangerous. Remember, we bred them from wolves... pretty much the top land predator after us. A single dog or a single wolf isn't the next most dangerous thing out there - but a pack sure as hell is. It's the teamwork that makes them - and us - so dangerous.

And I'm not really sure what you should do besides be armed, or make sure to be in a car or building. If they want to eat you, and you don't have weaponry of some kind, I think you're pretty much farked. I doubt posturing, or bluffing of some kind is going to have the same effect on a pack of dogs as it will a bear.


I'm not sure either, but I can tell you positively that avoiding eye contact and slowly walking away doesn't work. I never faced a pack of dogs, only individual, aggressive ones. I know that a pack of dogs is an entirely different animal with different psychology than an individual dog. Glad I've never been in that situation.
 
2013-01-08 06:00:46 PM

Walker: The Yahoo article goes into juicier details like mutilated breasts, conspiracy theories with people suggesting a serial killer dumped the bodies there because there was no blood, and a girl calling her sister saying she was being attacked by wild dogs and her sister hanging up on her thinking she was joking.


Maybe the sister is really picky on the wild dog and feral dog distinction.

/watch out boss. There's guerillas in these woods.
//nonsense gorillas are native to equatorial Africa
 
2013-01-08 06:01:45 PM
When people ask me why anyone would need a semiautomatic firearm, I tell them to drive outside of their gated community and go somewhere isolated. Of course, most people offering their opinions on such things have never fired a gun or been stalked by coyote, wolves or bear.
 
2013-01-08 06:05:58 PM

leviosaurus: I grew up in a neighborhood where aggressive dogs were left to roam free. I was given this exact advice. All it did was encourage the dogs. Don't expect this approach to work.


Yup. If they want to attack they will no matter what.
/Idiots at the end of the holler had wolf/german shepard mixed dogs. They were huge and vicious.
 
2013-01-08 06:09:06 PM
www.empireonline.com
 
2013-01-08 06:09:43 PM
Disappointed at the face there is no SHAKE AND BAKE references
 
2013-01-08 06:09:54 PM
FTA "The detained dogs will undergo tests to verify the presence of human tissues in their mouths and intestines, authorities said"

How long will that take, and at what cost to the taxpayers?

I am an animal lover at heart, but if you have 120,000 stray dogs and a problem with them attacking and killing women and children...

Put 'em down humanely.
 
2013-01-08 06:10:13 PM

LargeCanine: RatMaster999: [chrisnu.com image 850x478]

They must've done something to upset the balance...

You, sir, are awesome.

/The time is now


Thanks. Just watched that episode last night. Really surprised I never caught this show doing its original run. Think I'm enjoying it more than The X-Files...
 
2013-01-08 06:12:14 PM
The detained dogs will undergo tests to verify the presence of human tissues in their mouths and intestines, authorities said.

Dogs with human tissues?

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Teenwolf you're farked.
 
2013-01-08 06:13:55 PM

the_foo: Vectron: [25.media.tumblr.com image 603x437]

hmm...I don't get what House has to do with this


Warren Oats in Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia.
 
2013-01-08 06:15:11 PM

jayhawk88: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 473x309]

I like to think of dogs as angels in disguise, testing us, and when you get to heaven, St. Peter will either be all like "Hey, why were you always whipping that dog like a dog?" Or if you're a good person and are nice to dogs, St. Peter will be all like "A-ight, your cool, get on in there and save a beer for me. Cause here's something most people don't know: Angels like to party. Lucifer? He got cast down because of too many party fouls."


Not bad
 
2013-01-08 06:18:21 PM
You can't outrun a pack of dogs. You only have to outrun the guy you're with.
 
2013-01-08 06:20:49 PM

leviosaurus: mongbiohazard:
Packs of dogs can be very, very dangerous. Remember, we bred them from wolves... pretty much the top land predator after us. A single dog or a single wolf isn't the next most dangerous thing out there - but a pack sure as hell is. It's the teamwork that makes them - and us - so dangerous.

And I'm not really sure what you should do besides be armed, or make sure to be in a car or building. If they want to eat you, and you don't have weaponry of some kind, I think you're pretty much farked. I doubt posturing, or bluffing of some kind is going to have the same effect on a pack of dogs as it will a bear.

I'm not sure either, but I can tell you positively that avoiding eye contact and slowly walking away doesn't work. I never faced a pack of dogs, only individual, aggressive ones. I know that a pack of dogs is an entirely different animal with different psychology than an individual dog. Glad I've never been in that situation.


This is a pretty interesting article on how to deal with an aggressive dog. It includes a some good-sounding advice on dealing with a pack of dogs, before going on to say that it hasn't told you how to deal with a pack of dogs, so don't do it.
 
2013-01-08 06:38:02 PM
www.thefirearmblog.com

Problem solved.

No, wait. This is Mexico we're talking about. There are no guns allowed in Mexico so I guess import North Koreans instead?
 
2013-01-08 06:39:53 PM

mongbiohazard: Packs of dogs can be very, very dangerous. Remember, we bred them from wolves... pretty much the top land predator after us. A single dog or a single wolf isn't the next most dangerous thing out there - but a pack sure as hell is. It's the teamwork that makes them - and us - so dangerous.


Wolves are very timid around humans and are unlikely to attack. Even packs are unlikely to do anything but scatter. Dogs aren't scared of humans, which makes them a lot more dangerous.

That's part of the reason people consider wolf-hybrids to be very dangerous. They have the ferocity and strength of a wolf, but none of the timidness.

leviosaurus: This is a pretty interesting article on how to deal with an aggressive dog. It includes a some good-sounding advice on dealing with a pack of dogs, before going on to say that it hasn't told you how to deal with a pack of dogs, so don't do it.


That was a decent article. I have encountered aggressive owned dogs before, but I generally ignore them and avoid the area they seem to be obviously defending.

I wouldn't want to encounter a pack of wild dogs.
 
2013-01-08 06:41:41 PM
Friend of mine got bit by a wild dog in Mexico two hours before his flight home. He flew home and got the shots stateside.

As I understand it, Mexico is a desolate Hellscape populated by bandidos and littered with severed heads so this story doesn't surprise me.
 
2013-01-08 06:44:30 PM
Sounds like revenge killing after the dogs saw the Oscar Myer hot dog vehicle.
 
2013-01-08 06:46:43 PM
dailydoseofcute.net
 
2013-01-08 06:49:53 PM

illannoyin: [www.thefirearmblog.com image 640x541]

Problem solved.

No, wait. This is Mexico we're talking about. There are no guns allowed in Mexico so I guess import North Koreans instead?


According to this study, pepper spray is more effective than handguns when dealing with grizzly bears. I would assume it would also be more effective against a pack of dogs.
 
2013-01-08 07:01:51 PM

leviosaurus: leviosaurus: mongbiohazard:
Packs of dogs can be very, very dangerous. Remember, we bred them from wolves... pretty much the top land predator after us. A single dog or a single wolf isn't the next most dangerous thing out there - but a pack sure as hell is. It's the teamwork that makes them - and us - so dangerous.

And I'm not really sure what you should do besides be armed, or make sure to be in a car or building. If they want to eat you, and you don't have weaponry of some kind, I think you're pretty much farked. I doubt posturing, or bluffing of some kind is going to have the same effect on a pack of dogs as it will a bear.

I'm not sure either, but I can tell you positively that avoiding eye contact and slowly walking away doesn't work. I never faced a pack of dogs, only individual, aggressive ones. I know that a pack of dogs is an entirely different animal with different psychology than an individual dog. Glad I've never been in that situation.

This is a pretty interesting article on how to deal with an aggressive dog. It includes a some good-sounding advice on dealing with a pack of dogs, before going on to say that it hasn't told you how to deal with a pack of dogs, so don't do it.


interesting article, I like how it flat out tells you "These instructions are for dealing with one dog, and may work when dealing with two. If you're attacked by a pack of dogs, however, the pack mentality will call for a different response, which is beyond the scope of this article."

Yea 10 dogs are hellova different problem than 1 or 2 of them.
 
2013-01-08 07:05:19 PM

Ow! That was my feelings!: Years ago I was crossing the Navajo Nation and stopped in Kayenta, near Monument Valley. There was a large dead dog, Rott-mix, laying in the parking lot. Stiff, legs in the air, stinky. Tons of locals completely ignoring it, kids running around, etc. Fairly shocking to someone who's never experienced the cultural indifference to animals that many Native American's share. Enlightening place, the Navajo Nation.


Back in the '80s my wife and I were doing structural investigations on some Indian housing on the White River Apache reservation in Arizona. At one house, we were walking around the perimeter of the house and my wife tripped on something sticking out from the ground. It was a horse hoof, still attached to the (mostly) buried horse. About 5 feet from the side of the house. Saw several dead dogs that summer too, but the horse really got etched into memory.
 
2013-01-08 07:16:23 PM

leviosaurus: illannoyin: [www.thefirearmblog.com image 640x541]

Problem solved.

No, wait. This is Mexico we're talking about. There are no guns allowed in Mexico so I guess import North Koreans instead?

According to this study, pepper spray is more effective than handguns when dealing with grizzly bears. I would assume it would also be more effective against a pack of dogs.


A 9mm (or even a .357) is just likely to piss off a bear. It will down a dog without issue.
 
2013-01-08 07:31:48 PM
Wow after the whole extradition thing, I would have thought Dog would stay out of Mexico
 
2013-01-08 07:35:41 PM

RatMaster999: LargeCanine: RatMaster999: [chrisnu.com image 850x478]

They must've done something to upset the balance...

You, sir, are awesome.

/The time is now

Thanks. Just watched that episode last night. Really surprised I never caught this show doing its original run. Think I'm enjoying it more than The X-Files...


I have the DVD set. Millenium and Dark Angel were my favorite shows before Firefly.
 
2013-01-08 07:41:03 PM
Were the dogs drunk? I like to eat Mexican when I'm drunk.
 
2013-01-08 07:48:27 PM

clutchcargo2002: Glitchwerks: I've never encountered wild dogs before, but I thought the thing was always to keep cool, avoid eye contact, and slowly walk away. Running instantly says "dinner time."

I just shot them. Seriously. Growing up we had packs of wild strays that roamed in pretty large packs and went after horses and stuff. So, we would hunt them down. Good times, good times.

Ensenada didn't seem to have this problem...but those tacos from the taco stands on the street corners were pretty damn tasty.


I saw a number of strays near where I camped out during the Baja 500. They weren't threatening though, just very skinny and dirty.
 
2013-01-08 07:50:36 PM
I like to eat mexicans when I'm drunk
 
2013-01-08 07:53:33 PM
Yeah, but they're all chihuahuas.

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2013-01-08 08:38:48 PM

Chinchillazilla: Walker: The Yahoo article goes into juicier details like mutilated breasts, conspiracy theories with people suggesting a serial killer dumped the bodies there because there was no blood, and a girl calling her sister saying she was being attacked by wild dogs and her sister hanging up on her thinking she was joking.

FTA: "The authorities trapped beagles, Maltese, poodles; can you imagine how long it would take for them to kill a person?" he asked.

Not as long as this guy apparently thinks. Especially if they hit an artery. They're small and cute, but they're still predators at their core, and if they get hungry enough (or are rabid, although I don't think they'd work in packs in that case) they can still do some damage. And they'd probably have the element of surprise, since you wouldn't expect to be eaten by a beagle.

/not saying dogs actually did this, just that it's possible for small dogs to kill
//forget it, Jake, it's Mexico


I've got a 35 lbs. beagle mix and he's stupidly strong for his size. If 10 of him came after me, I'd be screwed and I'd know it.
 
2013-01-08 09:03:09 PM

RatMaster999: leviosaurus: illannoyin: [www.thefirearmblog.com image 640x541]

Problem solved.

No, wait. This is Mexico we're talking about. There are no guns allowed in Mexico so I guess import North Koreans instead?

According to this study, pepper spray is more effective than handguns when dealing with grizzly bears. I would assume it would also be more effective against a pack of dogs.

A 9mm (or even a .357) is just likely to piss off a bear. It will down a dog without issue.


.Know how I know you didn't read the study?

Turns out most people in those situations miss in the heat of the moment. A big cloud of pepper spray rarely misses
 
2013-01-08 10:14:18 PM

croesius: FTA "The detained dogs will undergo tests to verify the presence of human tissues in their mouths and intestines, authorities said"

How long will that take, and at what cost to the taxpayers?

I am an animal lover at heart, but if you have 120,000 stray dogs and a problem with them attacking and killing women and children...

Put 'em down humanely.


They tried this once in Morelos about six years ago, I swear. Animal control or the cops or Mexican soldiers rounded up over 500 street dogs in FOUR hours and locked them away. A mob showed up at the pound, broke open the doors and freed the dogs. It's like Calcutta or Somalia in some aspects, dogs being one of them.

Stray dogs are one of the reasons Mexico can be so filthy. None of the houses have lawns, there is no green space, so owners "walk" their dogs and let them shiat on the sidewalk. Others just let packs of mangy, infested animals "guard" the streets for them.
 
2013-01-08 10:55:15 PM

leviosaurus: .Know how I know you didn't read the study?

Turns out most people in those situations miss in the heat of the moment. A big cloud of pepper spray rarely misses



Its one of those things you really have to practice at in one form or another. I was working with a officer one time when a very large street mutt (Lab+god knows what) got aggressive with him. Rather than calling animal control or doing something sane like simple placation and avoidance he started screaming at it till it lunged at him. He emptied a 9mm "at it" and landed a few im sure. Dog ran like hell bleeding from more than a few holes but we never found it. I got the hell outa Houston shortly after that (91). I like my crazy in smaller dosages.
 
2013-01-08 11:26:56 PM
Interesting that the bodies apparently laid in a park from 1 to 6 days.

Mexico City has animal control teams, but like every other civil servant, they collect their checks and go home after working a little a possible.

Going for walks in Delhi, India, I would see packs of dogs. I noticed that if I bent down and picked up rocks, they kept their distance. Saw a dominant male kill two rivals in a street outside a pharmacy.

Third world really sucks.
 
2013-01-09 12:26:51 AM
Weird story. Seems suspicious that there are so many victims. Dogs hunt in packs and are natural hunters, so I have no doubt that they would be capable of cornering and killing people alone in the woods.

I love dogs, generally, and have had an Akita and a Golden Retriever. I'm generally not at all afraid of them, but this one time, when I was out jogging, I encountered a young male Pit Bull running around off-leash. He was in a great mood, looked friendly and happy, just running around, but he was about 55 pounds of pure muscle, with teeth that looked like they could crush sheet metal. He ran past me coming within inches of my leg, and whipping me with his tail. I tried not to look (or feel) frightened, but I nearly pissed myself. I just couldn't shake the thought that that dog could have killed me without even trying. I briefly thought about kneeling down and trying to pet him, but I valued my face too much to chance a misunderstanding.
 
2013-01-09 01:08:24 AM

orclover: leviosaurus: .Know how I know you didn't read the study?

Turns out most people in those situations miss in the heat of the moment. A big cloud of pepper spray rarely misses


Its one of those things you really have to practice at in one form or another. I was working with a officer one time when a very large street mutt (Lab+god knows what) got aggressive with him. Rather than calling animal control or doing something sane like simple placation and avoidance he started screaming at it till it lunged at him. He emptied a 9mm "at it" and landed a few im sure. Dog ran like hell bleeding from more than a few holes but we never found it. I got the hell outa Houston shortly after that (91). I like my crazy in smaller dosages.


Proving my point, thanks. The officer unloaded on one dog and didn't even kill it. Against a pack, he'd have lost.

But a cloud of pepper spray would have driven off the dog, plus any other dogs, plus any grizzlies in the immediate area. Sure, you might get a dose yourself, but who cares? The dogs are gone, the danger is over, any pain will hurt like hell, but the next morning it's a memory with no lasting damage other than hurt feelings. Pepper spray beats guns in these situations every time
 
2013-01-09 01:30:00 AM
Shaggy Butte is in Mexico?
 
2013-01-09 04:18:41 AM

leviosaurus: orclover: leviosaurus: .Know how I know you didn't read the study?

Turns out most people in those situations miss in the heat of the moment. A big cloud of pepper spray rarely misses


Its one of those things you really have to practice at in one form or another. I was working with a officer one time when a very large street mutt (Lab+god knows what) got aggressive with him. Rather than calling animal control or doing something sane like simple placation and avoidance he started screaming at it till it lunged at him. He emptied a 9mm "at it" and landed a few im sure. Dog ran like hell bleeding from more than a few holes but we never found it. I got the hell outa Houston shortly after that (91). I like my crazy in smaller dosages.

Proving my point, thanks. The officer unloaded on one dog and didn't even kill it. Against a pack, he'd have lost.

But a cloud of pepper spray would have driven off the dog, plus any other dogs, plus any grizzlies in the immediate area. Sure, you might get a dose yourself, but who cares? The dogs are gone, the danger is over, any pain will hurt like hell, but the next morning it's a memory with no lasting damage other than hurt feelings. Pepper spray beats guns in these situations every time


Just carry around a bear banger, it works for bears, makes creepy men in an alley piss themselves six times in a row, and I'm sure would work on dogs.
 
2013-01-09 12:43:21 PM

KangTheMad: Just carry around a bear banger, it works for bears, makes creepy men in an alley piss themselves six times in a row, and I'm sure would work on dogs.


A bear banger?

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2013-01-09 12:49:13 PM
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Wildebeest in the middle is the US Constitution

Wild dog pack is the Democrat Party
 
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