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(White House)   Finally, a White House Petition that makes some damn sense: Shut down the White House Petition website   (petitions.whitehouse.gov) divider line 37
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2013-01-08 11:47:43 AM
The simple solution would be to charge a fee for creating a new survey with the proceeds going to a popular charity.    Maybe $100.  The fee could even be refunded, when/if you hit a certain threshhold of legitimacy.
 
2013-01-08 11:51:08 AM

mrshowrules: The simple solution would be to charge a fee for creating a new survey with the proceeds going to a popular charity.    Maybe $100.  The fee could even be refunded, when/if you hit a certain threshhold of legitimacy.


petition not survey
 
2013-01-08 11:54:35 AM
Pretty much. Whoever thought this would be a good idea should be sacked, along with those responsible for hiring them. What did they think would happen on the internet that managed ot get a bridge named after chuck norris?
 
2013-01-08 11:56:01 AM
salaboy.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-08 12:18:35 PM
Long overdue.
 
2013-01-08 01:13:15 PM

Teknowaffle: Pretty much. Whoever thought this would be a good idea should be sacked, along with those responsible for hiring them. What did they think would happen on the internet that managed ot get a bridge named after chuck norris?


The worst part of it, I think, was that the lazy-ass media saw things on there, like the stupid secession petitions, and would run with that like it was a real political groundswell worthy of attention.  My reaction to that was always "Did you see the other petition asking the government to build a Death Star?  That's about as realistic a proposal."
 
2013-01-08 02:27:36 PM

FlashHarry: [salaboy.files.wordpress.com image 510x334]


this.
we are through the looking glass people. Hold on to your butts.
 
2013-01-08 02:28:07 PM
Also that the White House just said eff you to people they disagreed with such s those wanting pot legalization and online gambling legalization.

What's the point of doing a petition without any chance of affecting policy but instead just being told "You lose but thanks for playing!"
 
2013-01-08 02:29:11 PM

Markoff_Cheney: FlashHarry: [salaboy.files.wordpress.com image 510x334]

this.
we are through the looking glass people. Hold on to your butts.


Why? Nobody's going to come along and stick another butt in it so I can fart while I poop, are they?
 
2013-01-08 02:30:12 PM
Right conclusion, wrong reason.

The website has instead been mostly treated as a joke by the White House

Shut it down because none of these petitions do a goddamn thing. You're supposed to get an actual response and instead you get a canned bullshiat dodge. It's no wonder people started treating it as a joke, because it is.
 
2013-01-08 02:30:21 PM
I think people need an outlet or, at least, a source of fun. Some of the petitions have been pretty funny. I personally signed petitions for some of my least favorite states to secede from the Union.
 
2013-01-08 02:30:28 PM
I think what they need to do is up the threshold for responses to account for the increased level of attention. Right now everything under the sun is hitting 25,000. Make it 50,000.
 
2013-01-08 02:31:04 PM

Teknowaffle: Pretty much. Whoever thought this would be a good idea should be sacked, along with those responsible for hiring them. What did they think would happen on the internet that managed ot get a bridge named after chuck norris?


I wouldn't go that far. It was intended to give a sense of transparency in the administration, something they've been trying to push since Obama's first election, and I feel it does that, even if it's a false sense.
 
2013-01-08 02:31:15 PM

king of vegas: Also that the White House just said eff you to people they disagreed with such s those wanting pot legalization and online gambling legalization.

What's the point of doing a petition without any chance of affecting policy but instead just being told "You lose but thanks for playing!"


You mean they are just not blindly accepting what people petition?

Maybe they are responding to those petitions and letting people know their viewpoint? NAW
 
2013-01-08 02:32:37 PM
i dunno
distractions were created, when distractions were useful
 
2013-01-08 02:34:48 PM

mrshowrules: The simple solution would be to charge a fee for creating a new survey with the proceeds going to a popular charity.    Maybe $100.  The fee could even be refunded, when/if you hit a certain threshhold of legitimacy.


To avoid favoring one chariyt over another, we could just put it towards paying off the national debt. But we'd deserve better than canned responses from the White House.
 
2013-01-08 02:35:14 PM
I joked about this on Fark last time there was a silly petition. I think it was probably around the time the whole "Deport Piers Morgan" petition started.
 
2013-01-08 03:00:09 PM

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Why? Nobody's going to come along and stick another butt in it so I can fart while I poop, are they?


i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-08 03:20:09 PM

mrshowrules: The simple solution would be to charge a fee for creating a new survey with the proceeds going to a popular charity.    Maybe $100.


Like .... The US Treasury?
 
2013-01-08 03:21:17 PM
"LOL hey guys, lets troll the White House petition page with stupid petitions and see if they respond!"
"OMG WHY AREN"T YOU RESPONDING TO OUR PETITIONS?!!!!"
 
2013-01-08 03:30:46 PM

lennavan: Right conclusion, wrong reason.

The website has instead been mostly treated as a joke by the White House

Shut it down because none of these petitions do a goddamn thing. You're supposed to get an actual response and instead you get a canned bullshiat dodge. It's no wonder people started treating it as a joke, because it is.


Duh? Who thinks anyone above the rank of intern reads these things? Even the Secret Service probably has an automated filter so they don't have to bother. It's a way to get people to let off steam without having to do anything, or at worst - a system to collect email addresses*

/any private or org/charity sponsored petition site is really to collect email for future fundraising.
 
2013-01-08 03:44:56 PM
Conservatives continue to insist on acting like children, this is why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-01-08 03:58:18 PM

Aldon: Conservatives continue to insist on acting like children, this is why we can't have nice things.


And liberals continue to insist on acting like whiny little wusses about it. This is why it's fun.
/Mom, Johnny won't stop making faces at me!
 
2013-01-08 04:01:59 PM
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/im-petitioning-president-oba ma-because-id-know-size-his-wang/tqhlmLVY

I started a petition about Obama's dick. Ya'll should sign it.
 
2013-01-08 04:02:58 PM

A Terrible Human: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/im-petitioning-president-ob a ma-because-id-know-size-his-wang/tqhlmLVY

I started a petition about Obama's dick. Ya'll should sign it.


I farked that up. The correct link is http://wh.gov/PXk2 .
 
2013-01-08 04:14:31 PM
That almost made me register for an account to sign that one.

/almost
 
2013-01-08 04:15:49 PM

A Terrible Human: A Terrible Human: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/im-petitioning-president-ob a ma-because-id-know-size-his-wang/tqhlmLVY

I started a petition about Obama's dick. Ya'll should sign it.

I farked that up. The correct link is http://wh.gov/PXk2 .


lololol
 
2013-01-08 05:44:53 PM

jake_lex: Teknowaffle: Pretty much. Whoever thought this would be a good idea should be sacked, along with those responsible for hiring them. What did they think would happen on the internet that managed ot get a bridge named after chuck norris?

The worst part of it, I think, was that the lazy-ass media saw things on there, like the stupid secession petitions, and would run with that like it was a real political groundswell worthy of attention. My reaction to that was always "Did you see the other petition asking the government to build a Death Star? That's about as realistic a proposal."


I'd love to see how popular the secession petitions would've been if it were stated up front that the act of signing such a petition for your State of primary residence (the only State you would be eligible to sign for) would constitute a declaration of your intention to waive your own U.S. citizenship, permanently and irrevocably. That waiving of citizenship would take effect immediately, regardless of how the petition and secession of that State goes, and if you remain in the USA more than, say, sixty days after signing it without a green card, you become an illegal alien. Let's see how many people really wanna secede.
 
2013-01-08 06:08:08 PM

syberpud: Duh? Who thinks anyone above the rank of intern reads these things?


As somebody who has worked in a similar setting, there is a person above the rank of intern who reads them- their job is more or less to write the responses- and even that gets passed along to interns on occasion. The real purpose of the White House Petition website is to simplify the jobs of those people- if everyone is signing something with the exact same wording and automatically entering their names and addresses into the system (if you send paper, somebody's gotta categorize your letter and put in your address manually), it saves a whole bunch of time and effort.

Basically, it takes a whole lot less effort to deal with than the regular mail does, and the regular mail is generally gonna be a joke too. It makes dealing with cranks more efficient, and we all like government efficiency, right?
 
2013-01-08 07:27:28 PM

FlashHarry: [salaboy.files.wordpress.com image 510x334]


Well played, dawg.
 
2013-01-08 07:58:25 PM

palelizard: mrshowrules: The simple solution would be to charge a fee for creating a new survey with the proceeds going to a popular charity.    Maybe $100.  The fee could even be refunded, when/if you hit a certain threshhold of legitimacy.

To avoid favoring one chariyt over another, we could just put it towards paying off the national debt. But we'd deserve better than canned responses from the White House.


Agreed.
 
2013-01-08 08:39:50 PM

cptjeff: syberpud: Duh? Who thinks anyone above the rank of intern reads these things?

As somebody who has worked in a similar setting, there is a person above the rank of intern who reads them- their job is more or less to write the responses- and even that gets passed along to interns on occasion. The real purpose of the White House Petition website is to simplify the jobs of those people- if everyone is signing something with the exact same wording and automatically entering their names and addresses into the system (if you send paper, somebody's gotta categorize your letter and put in your address manually), it saves a whole bunch of time and effort.

Basically, it takes a whole lot less effort to deal with than the regular mail does, and the regular mail is generally gonna be a joke too. It makes dealing with cranks more efficient, and we all like government efficiency, right?


That... that makes a lot of sense.
 
2013-01-08 10:56:53 PM
The website has instead been mostly treated as a joke. Petitions for a reality show with Vice President Biden, to deport Piers Morgan, multiple petitions to allow states to secede from the union, to "ban" Dianne Feinstein among countless others, have proliferated

I'm for nearly all of these. I would watch Veeping up with the Bidens.
 
2013-01-09 01:23:24 AM
We don't deserve nice things.
 
2013-01-09 02:54:27 AM

CorporatePerson: We don't deserve nice things.


some of the Ladies at my local dancing venue disagree. Am I being used?
 
2013-01-09 04:23:32 AM

lennavan: Right conclusion, wrong reason.

The website has instead been mostly treated as a joke by the White House

Shut it down because none of these petitions do a goddamn thing. You're supposed to get an actual response and instead you get a canned bullshiat dodge. It's no wonder people started treating it as a joke, because it is.


much like voting.
 
2013-01-09 04:25:18 AM

cptjeff: syberpud: Duh? Who thinks anyone above the rank of intern reads these things?

As somebody who has worked in a similar setting, there is a person above the rank of intern who reads them- their job is more or less to write the responses- and even that gets passed along to interns on occasion. The real purpose of the White House Petition website is to simplify the jobs of those people- if everyone is signing something with the exact same wording and automatically entering their names and addresses into the system (if you send paper, somebody's gotta categorize your letter and put in your address manually), it saves a whole bunch of time and effort.

Basically, it takes a whole lot less effort to deal with than the regular mail does, and the regular mail is generally gonna be a joke too. It makes dealing with cranks more efficient, and we all like government efficiency, right?


Yeah, sure. As if anyone in the government (wank wank) is that smart. It probably exists because it's some cogs pet project.

I tell ya, we should not only get rid of the petition website, we should get rid of all those interns, too. Then get rid of the rest of government.

/crank
 
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