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(WPBF West Palm Beach)   Dan Ackroyd is a Sandy Hook denier. "There really isn't enough information actually that we can go on. The information that we do have, the information that is being withheld, leads one to be somewhat skeptical"   (wpbf.com) divider line 44
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2013-01-08 10:20:06 AM
6 votes:
People said the same thing about the Aurora shootings. As with most conspiracies, some weirdoes are comforted in thinking that there is a grand design behind the absurd chaotic horror of the human condition.
2013-01-08 11:02:06 AM
4 votes:
The only conspiracy in play is how the media and the White House want to blame the weapons and not the shooter.

Though I will say this...

Pretty as long as Barrack Obama has been a politician, he's been a major gun control advocate. It would be fair to say that there isn't a piece of gun control legislation he hasn't loved, from his days in Chicago, to his time as a US senator to his time in the White House. Reporting on his positions on the issue of gun control is freely available and unambiguous.

Because of Obama's positions on gun control, people who oppose him politically have been been concerned that their ability to purchase certain types of firearms (or firearms at all in some cases) will be taken away and thus they have spent millions on the purchase of said weapons--semiautomatic rifles, pistols, large capacity magazines. Indeed, the revival of the gun industry that started in 2007 with the lifting of the assault weapons ban skyrocketed beginning in 2008 and beyond. Stores have quite literally run out of stocks and manufacturers had to expand production in order to keep up.

Enter Nancy Lanza. She was caught up in the gun buying hysteria like many others and purchased an AR-15 style semiautomatic rifle along with other firearms. It would be fair to say that had there not been a rush to purchase such weapons, the looming threat that they would be banned, along with a severe economic crisis, she would have likely put off purchasing some or all of the weapons in her possession. After all, she had a mentally challenged adult son who was on medication for his illness, one she had ended up home schooling because he had anxiety issues and one whom she was contemplating having institutionalized--not an inexpensive proposition, particularly in an era of mental health funding treatment cuts both in the public sector and through insurance plans.

Barrack Obama didn't pull the trigger at Sandy Hook Elementary any more than he did in Colorado, nor did any secret government special ops team. It would however be fair to say that Barrack Obama and his administration, intentionally or through stupidity, created an environment of paranoia that helped to create Adam Lanza. If the NRA has blood on its hands, so does he--actually even more so. "I'm not going to take your guns away" was always followed up by "but someday soon I'll make sure you can't buy any more." If you can't see where that would generate a national buying spree of weapons, then God help you.

Supporters of Mr. Obama will now imply or flat out say I'm a moonbat. Have fun with that. I won't be listening.
2013-01-08 10:18:44 AM
4 votes:

Diogenes: James Tracy teaches courses examining the relationship between commercial and alternative news media and socio-political issues and events nut job conspiracies.


FTFY.
2013-01-08 11:25:00 AM
3 votes:

KIA: I am not a conspiracy kind of person


Yes you are

The answer does not lie within a grand conspiracy, but in an attempt to optimize impact for political gain. There is a reason why Obama is demanding a gun control report by the end of January. If I was a betting man, I'd bet that, through no coincidence at all, the "official" report comes out at the same time.

This assault weapon ban has nothing to do with Sandy Hook. That was just the catalyst to push this ban through, which the people writing it have been wanting to do for years. Assault weapons account for less than 2% of crimes committed, this is nothing more than a political agenda riding on the back of a tragedy.
2013-01-08 10:55:07 AM
3 votes:

Clemkadidlefark: Let's see ... Fark exists to mock the news for being the malignant tool it has become.

Dan Ackroyd says reports on Sandy Hook incomplete, suggestive and may not be the whole story.

Farkers kick Ackroyd in the nuts, set him on fire for questioning the Official Narrative.

Fark has become the complete Ouroboros of Irony


You forgot bullet point 5:

Some Farkers don't click the article and end up posting stuff that makes them look like morons
2013-01-08 09:06:10 AM
3 votes:
Dan Ackroyd is a Sandy Hook denier.

Cattle mutilations are up.
2013-01-08 12:24:55 PM
2 votes:

Dr Dreidel: // supports a mental-health registry
// though not necessarily stripping patients of their rights
// their doc should make the determination, reviewable every 3 months by that same doctor, based on evaluations of the patient, not based on a sterile, context-less set of questions


You know what's funny? I was completely against Obamacare until this whole thing. If it could bring affordable and reliable mental health screening to everyone, then I'm for it.

Yes I also agree that mental health should never be a punishment. We need to remove the stigma of receiving help.
2013-01-08 11:11:59 AM
2 votes:

hdhale: Barrack Obama didn't pull the trigger at Sandy Hook Elementary any more than he did in Colorado, nor did any secret government special ops team. It would however be fair to say that Barrack Obama and his administration, intentionally or through stupidity, created an environment of paranoia that helped to create Adam Lanza. If the NRA has blood on its hands, so does he--actually even more so. "I'm not going to take your guns away" was always followed up by "but someday soon I'll make sure you can't buy any more." If you can't see where that would generate a national buying spree of weapons, then God help you.

Supporters of Mr. Obama will now imply or flat out say I'm a moonbat. Have fun with that. I won't be listening.


You won't be listening or responding because you're probably paralyzed from all the twisting and contorting this post took.
2013-01-08 10:44:14 AM
2 votes:

TWX: Dan, go home, you're drunk!

Seriously, please go back to acting. Actors that become conspiracy theorists rarely get respect in their newly-found field. And unlike Jenny McCarthy, there isn't a queue of people wanting to see you so that they can imagine you naked while you talk.


I know what you mean. Sometimes I'm all like, "I'm not reading that article. I don't have time. The world needs to know my opinion about what what I think it's about right now!"
2013-01-08 10:39:57 AM
2 votes:
And this would be why most schools don't have many conservatives on staff.

Birthers
Truthers
Hookers?
2013-01-08 10:39:02 AM
2 votes:

RidgeRunner5: I don't believe the shooting was politically motivated. It seems pretty clear that the dude's mom was going to have him committed, and he acted out because of it.

What I do find interesting, is how the narrative changed as the days went on. It went from 2 pistols, to 2 pistols and a rifle left in the car, to 4 pistols, to 2 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun in the car to just a rifle and a shotgun in the car.


Blame the modern "MUST GET THE SCOOP NOW" media.  They don't wait for facts, when they can be FIRST TO PRESS with random rumors and blatant lies.  Truth and reality don't matter.  Fear and outrage get eyeballs.
2013-01-08 10:21:20 AM
2 votes:

factoryconnection: "Libel" against Dan Aykroyd or the named Dan Ackroyd?



Ha, didn't notice that.
2013-01-08 10:10:22 AM
2 votes:
Um, that headline would be considered lible. There's no connection to Ghostbusters or Dan Aykroid in linked article. Doesn't even look like him.
2013-01-08 12:33:00 PM
1 votes:

Kuroshin: HotWingConspiracy: Kuroshin: Because that doesn't fit the narrative.

The narrative that gun nuts only picked up after LaPierre's pathetic distraction press conference, and will refuse to support or fund due to socialisms and such.

Hmm?  "Gun nuts" are the ones suggesting weapon bans, rather than solving the problem?  That's a new one.


No, they're pretending to give a fark about mental illness because it's their only out to avoid talk of gun control.
2013-01-08 12:09:15 PM
1 votes:
This? NO! STOP! Dammit! Fair and balanced (to borrow a phrase) does not mean giving airtime to every lunatic who picked up secret messages in his teeth fillings! If I were to put together a symposium on, let say the moon, I'd invite scientist and ignore the crazy person who thinks it's made of cheese. This just adds to the unnecessary mental background noise, and we're all dumber for being exposed to it.

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2013-01-08 12:07:07 PM
1 votes:

computerguyUT: Ha, you guys are just as freaking retarded when someone says something that doesn't jive with your sense of reality as you claim they are.

Quid pro quo Clarisse.....

I wasn't there, but I heard so many conflicting reports from the Nooz and saw enough conflicts in the video alone to know for a fact the entire incident is not what the police are reporting.

Yeah, the kids are dead. How they got that way remains to be properly manufactured.
I'll tell you straight up, having been in an Army combat unit for 10 years that those kids did NOT get shot by an AR. That's a fact.

There IS some manufacturing going on here like it or not.

I know you dumbasses will yell DEHURRR and all kinds if intelligent redneck funny sound crap. I believe what I see and what my experience tells me.
I also firmly believe the the government does not give a rats ass about it's citizens and will feed them into the mill at any opportunity to push its agenda.


13 years in Combat units and I'll tell you, you outed yourself in the dumbassery department.
Shhhh,  quiet now!
2013-01-08 12:06:36 PM
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: computerguyUT: I'll tell you straight up, having been in an Army combat unit for 10 years that those kids did NOT get shot by an AR. That's a fact.

So you examined the bodies?


Yeah, I'm kind of curious myself; how are you so certain that they weren't shot using an AR?

This tragedy has brought political opportunists out of the work, just as other tragedies have. But that's all they are: opportunists, not sinister masterminds. They prey on people running scared, and that's rather despicable in and of itself, but there are still degrees. These people did not arrange the murder of a bunch of kids just for political gain.
2013-01-08 11:57:00 AM
1 votes:

wxboy: machoprogrammer: [i.imgur.com image 581x480]

GIS for sandy hook conspiracy

That Columbine dot is way off.  And somebody apparently has a problem with St. Johns for some reason.


Also, the dot for "DC Sniper" appears to stretch from Richmond VA (130 miles south of DC) to Philadelphia (150 miles north) and from The Chesapeake Bay (30 miles east of DC) to the WV/OH border (don't know exactly how far, but it's more than a 4-hour drive).

They're being VERY loose with their definitions of where things happened, possibly to catapult their propaganda. And if you can't trust a paranoiac who sees pentagram patterns in random acts of violence, who can you trust?

// Prince - that's who you can trust
2013-01-08 11:53:31 AM
1 votes:

computerguyUT: I'll tell you straight up, having been in an Army combat unit for 10 years that those kids did NOT get shot by an AR. That's a fact.


So you examined the bodies?
2013-01-08 11:48:22 AM
1 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: HotWingConspiracy: Let's ask the dead kids what they would prefer.

I'd rather be dead than stabbed multiple times by a crazy person and alive.


Cool.

Let's ask their parents what they would prefer as well.
2013-01-08 11:42:56 AM
1 votes:

KIA: I am not a conspiracy kind of person primarily because the ability to create and maintain a conspiracy calls for a level of competence and confidentiality which is almost completely lacking in today's public servants.

Having said that, history shows there is a constant, low-level corruption and disregard for truth, the "little people" and general square dealing amongst officials. This leads me to ask: why haven't we gotten an official report on what happened yet? Why is the press still thumbing through data which was suspect three weeks ago and has not been clarified since?

The answer does not lie within a grand conspiracy,


Ok....

but in an attempt to optimize impact for political gain. There is a reason why Obama is demanding a gun control report by the end of January. If I was a betting man, I'd bet that, through no coincidence at all, the "official" report comes out at the same time.

So it's a conspiracy orchestrated by the Obama administration. You're every bit as nutty as the blogger.
2013-01-08 11:38:56 AM
1 votes:

ringersol: Kuroshin: "Literally the first thing that came into their minds was it being a conspiracy"

This may surprise you, but the paranoid types who believe conspiracy theories tend to believe *everything* is a conspiracy.


Every time I hear about a conspiracy I see the guy from Penn & Teller's 9/11 Bullshiat episode standing at a microphone declaring 'Nobody will ever convince me that this was a not a conspiracy'.
2013-01-08 11:22:24 AM
1 votes:

Rurouni: Well to be fair, the news did change the story like 50 times.


Well to be fair, when these stories hit Fark, how many people come in and immediately start saying, "So where is more accurate info?" "How come ___ doesn't have more info about this? They suck!" " How come they don't know how many were killed, it's been 15 minutes since the shooting?" "Why don't they have a picture of the shooter yet?" etc. etc. etc......

Yeah--it's not THE MEDIA. We're part of the problem.
KIA
2013-01-08 11:22:04 AM
1 votes:
I am not a conspiracy kind of person primarily because the ability to create and maintain a conspiracy calls for a level of competence and confidentiality which is almost completely lacking in today's public servants.

Having said that, history shows there is a constant, low-level corruption and disregard for truth, the "little people" and general square dealing amongst officials. This leads me to ask: why haven't we gotten an official report on what happened yet? Why is the press still thumbing through data which was suspect three weeks ago and has not been clarified since?

The answer does not lie within a grand conspiracy, but in an attempt to optimize impact for political gain. There is a reason why Obama is demanding a gun control report by the end of January. If I was a betting man, I'd bet that, through no coincidence at all, the "official" report comes out at the same time.
2013-01-08 11:18:11 AM
1 votes:
I can see how super-secret conspiracies with fog-shrouded agendas are entirely more acceptable than the thought an armed person with mental issues murdered unsuspecting innocents....

One totally absolves you from taking action while allowing you to obsess over details - the other could involve you....
2013-01-08 11:15:51 AM
1 votes:

hdhale: [derp] ...Supporters of Mr. Obama will now imply or flat out say I'm a moonbat. Have fun with that. I won't be listening


That's OK, because most people probably stopped paying attention after you spelled the president's name wrong.
2013-01-08 11:14:08 AM
1 votes:

bacongood: abfalter: That is a special kind of stupid right there. If we could bottle that kind of stupid it could be weaponized.

Sadly, not that speical.

Pretty much in line with the stupid that came out after the Aurora shootings, or Moore's film on the CO shootings, or the people who "know" Zimmerman is a racist, or what is currently happening to that town in Ohio, or 9/11 truthers, etc. etc.


I don't think Zimmerman is a racist. He might be, might not. But I am pretty convinced that he was a wanna-be vigilante moron.
2013-01-08 10:53:08 AM
1 votes:
Let's see ... Fark exists to mock the news for being the malignant tool it has become.

Dan Ackroyd says reports on Sandy Hook incomplete, suggestive and may not be the whole story.

Farkers kick Ackroyd in the nuts, set him on fire for questioning the Official Narrative.

Fark has become the complete Ouroboros of Irony
2013-01-08 10:50:24 AM
1 votes:
Sure. They'd been grooming the crazy kid for years, providing secret orders to the ATF to approve any and all firearms purchases by the mother. Plus they made sure the father was making plenty of money to support her gun collecting as well. Meanwhile Eric Holder used this connections to the Mexican Drug Cartels to bring up 3 shooters, 2 primary and 1 backup, to support the crazy kid, guide and direct him, make sure it was done right, etc. And then neat-as-you-please, these Mexi-shooters take out the crazy kid to keep him quiet and are on the next Greyhound to Oaxaca with nobody the wiser.
2013-01-08 10:42:19 AM
1 votes:
www.compliancebuilding.com
2013-01-08 10:35:16 AM
1 votes:
"For example, looking at the autopsies, much of what journalist institutions are going on are pronouncements from law enforcement authorities and the medical examiner."

I can field this one... BECAUSE NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WANTS TO LOOK AT A SHOT UP BODY OF A SIX YEAR OLD UNLESS THEY HAVE TO!!
2013-01-08 10:26:19 AM
1 votes:
FTA:

"I don't think journalists are really pressing for the right types of questions," he said. "For example, looking at the autopsies, much of what journalist institutions are going on are pronouncements from law enforcement authorities and the medical examiner."

WTF man? Well ya should have come on down to the coroner and got your hands dirty digging through all those guts then. Someone please call James Tracey next time so he can perform the autopsy, or at least recommend a coroner that he trusts.
2013-01-08 10:25:25 AM
1 votes:
All I know is if it were a mainly black student school and the victims were mainly black, the story would be over by now.

/I know that's not the point at all. I just wanted to say it.
2013-01-08 10:24:51 AM
1 votes:
Dan Ackroyd also believes in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis.

/Dan Aykroyd, too
2013-01-08 10:24:27 AM
1 votes:

Makh: It true, people really do believe that this was a set-up by Obama to ban guns.  They blame him for the deaths.


I have a couple co-workers who started up that line the very second I told them about the shooting here at CTC (as it was happening).  I walk up and tell them, "somebody is shooting up the Town Center...right now."  First thing out of their mouths was, "NO WAY."  Second thing was, "IT'S A SET-UP!!!"

Then when Sandy Hook happened they really went nuts.

Mind you, this was with ABSOLUTELY NO PROMPTING.  They didn't get this crap from Wing Nut Daily or Drudge.  Literally the first thing that came into their minds was it being a conspiracy to push through another "assault weapon" ban.  It was an amazing thing to watch.
2013-01-08 10:23:22 AM
1 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: Um, that headline would be considered lible


Um, that would be considered bad spelling.
2013-01-08 10:23:13 AM
1 votes:

Diogenes: James Tracy teaches courses examining the relationship between commercial and alternative news media and socio-political issues and events.


I wonder how many of his students have dropped his class.
2013-01-08 10:21:30 AM
1 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: Um, that headline would be considered lible. There's no connection to Ghostbusters or Dan Aykroid in linked article. Doesn't even look like him.


I see it a little bit.

Article doesn't mention what this guy teaches, but the Florida Atlantic University doesn't even want to be associated with his opinions.
2013-01-08 10:19:37 AM
1 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: Um, that headline would be considered lible.


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"That's some lible, bibble!"
2013-01-08 10:18:26 AM
1 votes:
That is a special kind of stupid right there. If we could bottle that kind of stupid it could be weaponized.
2013-01-08 10:17:18 AM
1 votes:
"and the Obama administration's agenda with gun control."

FFS.  Where is his Tea Party card?
2013-01-08 09:36:19 AM
1 votes:
The only explanation is that Lorne Michaels is a cult leader. Belushi tried to escape=dead. Then Victoria Jackson and her dead brain. Now this.
2013-01-08 09:36:01 AM
1 votes:
"While talking to WPBF, Tracy posed questions about security video, two other suspects in the shooting and the Obama administration's agenda with gun control."

Ah.
2013-01-08 09:29:08 AM
1 votes:
It true, people really do believe that this was a set-up by Obama to ban guns.  They blame him for the deaths.
 
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