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(Brisbane Times)   Sony CEO learns that the first rule of new product demonstration is test, re-test and test again   (brisbanetimes.com.au) divider line 39
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2013-01-08 05:28:15 AM
Oblig Sony Time Vampire

Fark Sony.
 
2013-01-08 06:17:55 AM
Another obligatory fark Sony.
 
2013-01-08 06:42:30 AM
That never stopped Microsoft.
 
2013-01-08 07:26:23 AM
Well that's at least one less Sony engineer that will be employed by the time you read this, so I guess it's a start.
 
2013-01-08 07:32:03 AM
Ah Sony, is there anything you can't fark up?
 
2013-01-08 07:39:46 AM
I remember working scanner support and getting an email leading my over to a video of Bill Gates plugging in a USB scanner that looked a lot like one we had just trained on. And Billy boy got a BSOD.

shiat, little Renae just got her drivers license yesterday. I'm feeling old.
 
2013-01-08 07:56:48 AM
those giant enemy crabs at it again
 
2013-01-08 07:58:17 AM
Was it showing RRRIIIIDDDGGGEEEE RRRAAACCCEEERRR?
 
2013-01-08 08:03:52 AM
 
2013-01-08 08:05:14 AM
Im curious about this Sony that is now emerging. There was a time where you bought a sony product and had it for life. I had a tape walkman that lasted my entire high school and beginning of College until I replaced it with a Discman. I recently bought a Sony CT60 soundbar and was disappointed at how super cheap the whole thing felt and sounded. My $15 generic speakers sounded a lot crisper and had a booming bass sound than the soundbar.

On some of the visits to the stores in search for a TV for the inlaws every single sale rep suggested another brand over Sony. I was kinda surprised of the general sentiment.
 
2013-01-08 08:08:00 AM
Was watching this live streaming. I couldn't believe it. How many times does this shiat have to happen before these companies properly test the products before showing them live on stage?
 
2013-01-08 08:25:35 AM

TheSelphie: Was watching this live streaming. I couldn't believe it. How many times does this shiat have to happen before these companies properly test the products before showing them live on stage?


They probably did, but still won't stop a computer from crashing if it has decided that its time has come.
 
2013-01-08 08:33:53 AM

AdamK: those giant enemy crabs at it again


crab battle?
 
2013-01-08 08:42:50 AM
Eh, shiat happens. If you are in sales or do presentationsi you know something will eventually break. You can test all you want but come time to show it, you know it's going to break on you.
 
2013-01-08 08:45:53 AM
This is glorious
www.gentlerobot.com
 
2013-01-08 08:48:14 AM

TNel: Eh, shiat happens. If you are in sales or do presentationsi you know something will eventually break. You can test all you want but come time to show it, you know it's going to break on you.


Better a computer crap out than the tv itself.

Still, I had a diskman that used non-stop. It probably still works, packed away in a box somewhere. Sony used to mean built to last.
 
2013-01-08 09:16:51 AM

roflmaonow: Im curious about this Sony that is now emerging....


Only now emerging? They've been like this in their consumer electronics arm for close to a decade.
 
2013-01-08 09:21:24 AM
Looks like the fancy new monitor is working fine, displaying whatever input it is getting from a crashed computer.
 
2013-01-08 09:25:50 AM
Not a surprise, OLED is YEARS away from being ready.
 
2013-01-08 09:34:04 AM

roflmaonow: Im curious about this Sony that is now emerging. There was a time where you bought a sony product and had it for life. I had a tape walkman that lasted my entire high school and beginning of College until I replaced it with a Discman. I recently bought a Sony CT60 soundbar and was disappointed at how super cheap the whole thing felt and sounded. My $15 generic speakers sounded a lot crisper and had a booming bass sound than the soundbar.

On some of the visits to the stores in search for a TV for the inlaws every single sale rep suggested another brand over Sony. I was kinda surprised of the general sentiment.


their consumer electronics are pretty bad these days. most of their stuff barely last a few years after the warranty expires. tv is something you really want to avoid since it costs more to repair it when it's out of warranty than to replace it.
 
2013-01-08 09:53:24 AM

wingnut396: Looks like the fancy new monitor is working fine, displaying whatever input it is getting from a crashed computer.


This. He was showing off a new OLED, not an operating system. The crash had nothing to do with the display.
 
2013-01-08 09:54:50 AM

AdamK: those giant enemy crabs at it again


Joe_diGriz: Was it showing RRRIIIIDDDGGGEEEE RRRAAACCCEEERRR?


dammit, I came to make these jokes..
stupid early birds..
 
2013-01-08 10:10:07 AM
He will now be forced to commit harikiri.
 
2013-01-08 10:21:22 AM

roflmaonow: Im curious about this Sony that is now emerging. There was a time where you bought a sony product and had it for life. I had a tape walkman that lasted my entire high school and beginning of College until I replaced it with a Discman. I recently bought a Sony CT60 soundbar and was disappointed at how super cheap the whole thing felt and sounded. My $15 generic speakers sounded a lot crisper and had a booming bass sound than the soundbar.

On some of the visits to the stores in search for a TV for the inlaws every single sale rep suggested another brand over Sony. I was kinda surprised of the general sentiment.


Since the age of the discman ended, Sony has generally sold overpriced products. Some are junk, some are good but just overpriced. Either way, a brand to avoid. Samsung is the new kid in town making quality products at fair prices.
 
2013-01-08 11:10:18 AM

Bullseyed: Since the age of the discman ended, Sony has generally sold overpriced products. Some are junk, some are good but just overpriced. Either way, a brand to avoid. Samsung is the new kid in town making quality products at fair prices.


Sony jumped the shark with the CBS Records/Columbia Pictures buyout. Once the Hollywood boys were on board, things went to shiat. Before then, they actually fought for the customers' rights (see also, Sony vs. Universal), but once they became part of the content cartel they've made it their main focus to see how much they can screw us.
 
2013-01-08 11:16:13 AM
Testing only shows the problems you can find.
 
2013-01-08 11:56:02 AM

moothemagiccow: This is glorious
[www.gentlerobot.com image 850x273]


Hahahaha that's what I was thinking too.

*wipes tear* oh mercy
 
2013-01-08 12:00:33 PM

Fubegra: Bullseyed: Since the age of the discman ended, Sony has generally sold overpriced products. Some are junk, some are good but just overpriced. Either way, a brand to avoid. Samsung is the new kid in town making quality products at fair prices.

Sony jumped the shark with the CBS Records/Columbia Pictures buyout. Once the Hollywood boys were on board, things went to shiat. Before then, they actually fought for the customers' rights (see also, Sony vs. Universal), but once they became part of the content cartel they've made it their main focus to see how much they can screw us.


What it did was put the hardware and content folks at odds with each other.

For example, they made music cd's with horrible DRM and rootkits, while another division was making CD-RW drives and media, with software designed to make it easy to rip and burn your CD collection.

What sony needs to do is divorce itself form the media side, but the media side is what's keeping them afloat due to a declaine in their hardware designs in many areas.

All poor Kaz can do is clean house to try to get their hardware back on track. He's also started selling off certain, low profit areas to other companies.

And how is this for irony: the PsVita is the first handheld console with an OLED screen. Looks fantastic, responds well, and is the major highlight of the console.

Screen is made by Samsung, rather then Sony.
 
2013-01-08 12:03:27 PM
I'm contemplating taking my PS3 with the BluRay player that goes "thunk" 75% of the time down to the Sony "Style" Store during a busy time and screaming what a piece of poop it is just to get a replacement. Seriously two years for a thing that has like 2 moving parts in it?
 
2013-01-08 12:05:31 PM

roflmaonow: Im curious about this Sony that is now emerging. There was a time where you bought a sony product and had it for life. I had a tape walkman that lasted my entire high school and beginning of College until I replaced it with a Discman. I recently bought a Sony CT60 soundbar and was disappointed at how super cheap the whole thing felt and sounded. My $15 generic speakers sounded a lot crisper and had a booming bass sound than the soundbar.

On some of the visits to the stores in search for a TV for the inlaws every single sale rep suggested another brand over Sony. I was kinda surprised of the general sentiment.


Their TV's and several other areas really declined in the last decade. Bravia and Trinitron used to be signs of excellence, but now? Other companies made better, and often cheaper screens.

All mine at home, for example, are Samsung screens. Never had an issue with them, save for some capacitors which Samsung fixed for free.

One of the things Kaz did when he first took over was fire like 10,000 people, and reorganize several departments. the screens for their UltraHD sets look pretty good so far, but it might be several years before they can make a screen that rivals it's competitors

.
 
2013-01-08 02:26:09 PM
Sony was the Apple of the 80s.
 
2013-01-08 02:30:25 PM
I enjoy my PS3.

FYI
 
2013-01-08 05:19:52 PM
Samsung is the new Sony when it comes to electronics (TV's specifically). Sony transformed to an "entertainment" company from an electronics company. But no company makes electronics that are really "built to last" anymore. Technology changes so quickly, so why make a widget that will last 20 years, when its already out of date/style within a year?
 
2013-01-08 05:51:56 PM

MBZ321: Samsung is the new Sony when it comes to electronics (TV's specifically). Sony transformed to an "entertainment" company from an electronics company. But no company makes electronics that are really "built to last" anymore. Technology changes so quickly, so why make a widget that will last 20 years, when its already out of date/style within a year?


Sonys problem was really too many products, and a decline in the quality of those products.

I don't care if my TV is out of date in a year. I just want something that looks nice, is built well, and does what it does well for the price. In many areas where they used to dominate, Sony just hasn't been able to produce that as of late.

It was really just bad management and a lack of focus.
 
2013-01-08 08:00:24 PM
Got a Samsung led and we've been nothing but incredibly happy. Still use the ps3 for media in the living room, and the Samsung Blu ray player with the bedroom tv.
 
2013-01-08 11:00:53 PM
Sony has been making crap that breaks since the mid-nineties at least.
 
2013-01-09 09:07:54 AM

Dear Jerk: Sony was the Apple of the 80s.


Word. They used to be top of the line, do no wrong. Then they started intruding on their customers privacy and employing monopolistic tricks with their technology.

Sound familiar?
 
2013-01-09 06:10:54 PM

bencoon: roflmaonow: Im curious about this Sony that is now emerging....

Only now emerging? They've been like this in their consumer electronics arm for close to a decade.


Well, that explains that... I was reading all this negative crap about Sony and thinking, "What the hell?  I've had my Sony tuner for damn near 15 years and the thing still works flawlessly and sounds incredible."

Shame...  If and when it does finally kick the bucket I'll have to find something other than Sony to replace it with.  Sad.
 
2013-01-09 10:37:43 PM
Yea I remember my dad buying an old Sony TV back in the early 80s I think, it lasted well into the 90s when Triton and other crap was being marketed. Only the volume button went finicky otherwise the lasted forever with normal decay.

My inlaws still have their 54" flat tv that weighs a ton and that works just fine as well. They bought that in 2000 and got a free DVD player with it when that was a big deal.
 
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