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2013-01-08 02:24:09 AM
At least he didn't call her "fat."
 
2013-01-08 02:37:55 AM
In the letter, the asshole viewer refers to Hill as a "b*tch jungle bunny," "spear-chucker," and demands ESPN to let her go "before she back slides into some ebonics-laden inarticulate mumbo-jumbo tirade." Additionally, the anonymous man reveals he's "not interested in spending all day listening to some thick-lipped gorilla attempting to properly speak the King's English."

The writer is obviously trying too hard. 4/10

Would be 1/10, but they ran this article. The really racist people aren't that creative. They just say the one word over and over again.
 
2013-01-08 07:13:00 AM
the King's English

Thatword.jpg
 
2013-01-08 08:46:12 AM

doglover: The really racist people aren't that creative. They just say the one word over and over again.


"socialist?"
 
2013-01-08 08:49:57 AM
Well to the racist cracker's defense...Jemele Hill is terrible, I mean does she even know sports, really? She either sucks a mean dick or this is an "inclusiveness" hire. ("inclusiveness" is the new buzz word for "diversity"), because she has no talent as a journalist, let a one a sports journalist.

What that racist did was secure her job...way to go asshole.
 
2013-01-08 08:53:22 AM
I sorta laughed at the 'spear-chucker' reference. That is some good stuff.
 
2013-01-08 08:53:46 AM
Well we know it wasn't an American writing the letter. Who in the USA uses the phrase "queens English "?
 
2013-01-08 08:57:37 AM
On one hand, he's racist. On the other hand, he doesn't like Jemele Hill.

So, split decision, then.
 
2013-01-08 08:59:04 AM

Captain Kickass: On one hand, he's racist. On the other hand, he doesn't like Jemele Hill.

So, split decision it's Skip Bayless, then.

 
2013-01-08 09:02:37 AM
Who still watches ESPN?
 
2013-01-08 09:08:29 AM

SnarfVader: the King's English

Thatword.jpg


LOL!

CSB-time:

When I was teaching an English Comp. class a while back, I had one smart-ass, woefully-arrogant student spend the better part of the first day of class yammering to me about how he deserved to be in a more "advanced" class because, as he put it, he had no problem speaking the "King's English."

So, being the bastard troll that I am, I asked him which king.  And, after watching him fumble around in his tattered American brain for a few minutes, he inevitably came back with Edward I, to which I said, "Great!  Everything you write or speak in this class will be consistent with Middle English.  Good luck.  Read Chaucer.  Everyone else, let's learn gerunds."

I will say, the dude gave it a good effort --even went so far as to take a swing at Middle English calligraphy in one of his papers.  In the end, though, after a couple of weeks, he silently reverted back to our modern tongue and shut his trap.  But, I did give him points for trying.
 
2013-01-08 09:09:16 AM
Jemele Hill is terrible. She's inarticulate. In fact, 'sideline journalists' are terrible. Even the males. I'll throw it back to you now, Brent.
 
2013-01-08 09:31:46 AM
ok now which one of you farkers sent in that letter?
 
2013-01-08 09:34:16 AM
When all you write about is race, you can probably expect to hear a bit about race.
 
2013-01-08 09:38:10 AM
"before she back slides into some ebonics-laden inarticulate mumbo-jumbo tirade."

OK, that was pretty funny.
 
2013-01-08 09:40:25 AM

moogrum: When all you write about is race, you can probably expect to hear a bit about race.


I was gonna say, even if the letter was "You're not fit to carry Erin Andrew's makeup bag, your reporting sucks, and your 'insights' are intuitive to anyone paying attention. Go write for Rolling Stone, where bombast and political sensationalism are supposed to live", Jemele would find it racist.

I used to like her work, but when you're not even the sportswriter LZ Granderson is, maybe it's time to find a new outlet.
 
2013-01-08 09:42:19 AM
I consider Hill to be one of the less appalling aspects of ESPN's "journalism".

/mostly because she's not all hyperbole, all the time like most of their talking heads
//First Take makes MTV reality shows look respectable
 
2013-01-08 09:43:59 AM
I went to high school with a guy named Jemell Hill. I always wonder if he had a sex change and is now reporting for ESPN. PS. I like Jemele, I think she does a fine job.
 
2013-01-08 09:53:01 AM
to be fair, she is pretty terrible. not skip bayless bad, but "I'm a super serious black journalist so I need to write about race issues all the time".

doesn't espn have an arrangement with the NABJ? surely there was someone more qualified than Hill they could have sent.
 
2013-01-08 10:13:48 AM

sigdiamond2000: Who still watches ESPN?


This was a complaint about "The Herd" on ESPN radio, to which the author said he was "listening."

The answer to the question is: lots and lots of dudes, everywhere.
 
2013-01-08 10:26:03 AM
She's a horrible person. Sports is one of the few places in American culture where everyone can come together and root for the best person for the job. Yes, some racism still exists in sports. But every time there is an issue with a black person involved, she turns it racial. People don't like Mike Vick for a lot of reasons, racism dropped off that list awhile ago. Yet if he's booed or loses endorsements, it's cause he is black. She's never had a real insight, and it's telling that the only people on ESPN that will work with her are the short bus riding first take crew.

/Letter is still wrong though
//Every black person of any notoriety gets them though, quit whining
 
2013-01-08 10:29:32 AM
What's the guy's Fark handle?
 
2013-01-08 10:31:50 AM
Man, we've got a lot of people in here who read Jemele Hill's columns frequently enough to know the subject matter. I'd suggest being a little more discerning about what you read.
 
2013-01-08 10:46:15 AM
It's always funny how often every black sportswriter is accused of being racist, even when they don't mention race at all. Just went and looked through the Jemele Hill archive at ESPN; the vast majority of articles aren't about race. It tells something about you when you see things that aren't corroborated by facts.
 
2013-01-08 10:47:07 AM

SuperT: to be fair, she is pretty terrible. not skip bayless bad, but "I'm a super serious black journalist so I need to write about race issues all the time".

doesn't espn have an arrangement with the NABJ? surely there was someone more qualified than Hill they could have sent.


You called?
 
2013-01-08 10:48:44 AM

IAmRight: Just went and looked through the Jemele Hill archive at ESPN


Why?
 
2013-01-08 10:52:27 AM

PowerSlacker: Why?


Just to check on the percentage of articles about race or calling people racist. In fact, there was one where she went out and said something wasn't racist (Wozniacki doing the Serena Williams impression). Most of the rest weren't race-related except tangentially, and she didn't seem to bring it in.

It's not like I read all the articles.
 
2013-01-08 10:55:25 AM

IAmRight: It's always funny how often every black sportswriter is accused of being racist, even when they don't mention race at all. Just went and looked through the Jemele Hill archive at ESPN; the vast majority of articles aren't about race. It tells something about you when you see things that aren't corroborated by facts.


All i know about her is during 2008 NBA Playoffs she wrote an article about how if you were black you should historically support the Lakers over the Celtics. I'm from the UK but even i know the first team to field 5 black players & have a black coach wasn't the Lakers..

You won't find the original article in her archive...
 
2013-01-08 10:57:22 AM

Jim from Saint Paul: What's the guy's Fark handle?


THIS50.
 
2013-01-08 10:58:05 AM
He could have just called her an idiot, of course he could have just called everyone at the four letter network that. They spent a month telling the world how competitive ND would be against Alabama and we see how well that worked out. If it wasn't for AJ's girlfriend and Brent foaming at the mouth the game would have been a yawner.
 
2013-01-08 11:01:37 AM
BTW, if the black journalists in my timeline are any indication, any time there's anything remotely resembling a discussion about race, everyone asks them what they think. It honestly looks like a bunch of white people either

a) trying to figure out if they should be outraged at the issue or not
b) looking for an excuse to get mad at the person for always talking about race - if they ever do reply with how it's an issue, tons of people get all mad at them about how they're always making everything about race.

For an example, I'd have you look at Bomani Jones' discussion about the Rooney Rule. Why are people so mad about the fact that qualified minorities (remember, the person doesn't even have to be black) so pissed off that guys who are qualified for jobs are getting interviews? Why do people believe the good-ol'-boy network doesn't exist, and that opportunity is a huge part of actually getting jobs? It's also sad how the media treats it - "they've gotten their Rooney interview out of the way, so now they can..." as though it's an unnecessary terrible burden for teams.

People are honestly MAD that anyone defends the Rooney Rule and pretend that racism and institutional discrimination don't exist. It would be laughable if it weren't so sad.
 
2013-01-08 11:02:52 AM

YonderScott: He could have just called her an idiot, of course he could have just called everyone at the four letter network that. They spent a month telling the world how competitive ND would be against Alabama and we see how well that worked out. If it wasn't for AJ's girlfriend and Brent foaming at the mouth the game would have been a yawner.


They really can't talk about a game that THEY'RE PAYING MILLIONS TO AIR as though it's going to be a sh*tshow not worth watching.
 
2013-01-08 11:13:42 AM

IAmRight: YonderScott: He could have just called her an idiot, of course he could have just called everyone at the four letter network that. They spent a month telling the world how competitive ND would be against Alabama and we see how well that worked out. If it wasn't for AJ's girlfriend and Brent foaming at the mouth the game would have been a yawner.

They really can't talk about a game that THEY'RE PAYING MILLIONS TO AIR as though it's going to be a sh*tshow not worth watching.


Didn't an announcer do just that for MSNF a few weeks ago? The atrocious Jets-Titans Week 15 game, I believe - Tirico went to commercial saying something like "This game sucks, but we're all gonna watch it anyway."

Yes, A D-I Title Game should mean more than a Week 15 contest starring "Who?" and "He's still playing?" and "LOL buttfumble", but lamely trying to pretend that a 42-14 game is close just reeks of shameless self-promotion. Sometimes, the teams don't cooperate with the narrative, and a good sportscaster will engender goodwill with the audience by parroting their own opinions back. Like Tirico did - I honestly kept watching for another quarter just to see how many more euphemisms for "shiatshow" Tirico'd use.
 
2013-01-08 11:29:42 AM

Dr Dreidel: Didn't an announcer do just that for MSNF a few weeks ago? The atrocious Jets-Titans Week 15 game, I believe - Tirico went to commercial saying something like "This game sucks, but we're all gonna watch it anyway."


Well, if it was SNF, it wouldn't have been Tirico (and they wouldn't have had Jets-Titans). It was MNF for sure (that CJ run helped me win my fantasy week). And yeah, when you have a MONTH to hype up a game, you're not going to talk about how the game sucks. Sure, you can have one guy criticize a matchup (Herbstreit and NIU), but for the most part, you have to play both sides. You don't pay millions of dollars to air a product, sell advertising for that product where you're telling the sponsors how awesome it is and how they should totally spend hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars advertising during this game...then spend a month talking about how the game isn't going to be close at all.

What you do is you play both sides - you have articles saying this is why one side will win (that will rile up the opponents and make the fans of the team it's about get excited for their chances). You have articles saying this is why the other team will win. You give us a lot of BS about the star players and how important it is to them and how excited they are for this opportunity, and how it almost didn't happen for some of them. You revisit the crucial moments of the season.

If a team has played a bunch of close games, it's because "they've gone through the crucible, they've found what's in them and they always manage to gut it out." If a team has beaten the sh*t out of everyone, it's because "they're a juggernaut that doesn't look like they can be stopped."

That said, while that game wasn't close, those were some pretty sketchy calls early that really helped Alabama pour it on early (if ND gets a drive early, then maybe it looks interesting for a bit and Alabama just blows them out in the second half). That one dude's "bobble" on that sideline catch looked like a simple repositioning. Never lost control. But hey, it's Pac-12 refs, they're dogsh*t and we all f*cking hate them. That particular crew had THREE people signaling different directions on a spot earlier this year.

Anyway, just remember that ESPN (and their on-air "talent")'s job isn't to tell you what they actually think - it's their job to get you to tune in. So when you're mad about how they "told us that it was going to be a good game," just remember you're a dope for thinking they were honest.

/BTW, Tirico could do that because it was part of the broadcast. Anyone who was going to tune in had already tuned in.
 
2013-01-08 11:37:59 AM

IAmRight: Dr Dreidel: Didn't an announcer do just that for MSNF a few weeks ago? The atrocious Jets-Titans Week 15 game, I believe - Tirico went to commercial saying something like "This game sucks, but we're all gonna watch it anyway."

Well, if it was SNF, it wouldn't have been Tirico (and they wouldn't have had Jets-Titans). It was MNF for sure (that CJ run helped me win my fantasy week). And yeah, when you have a MONTH to hype up a game, you're not going to talk about how the game sucks


The strike-out was because I'm remembering that the game with that commentary, which should have been a Monday night game, was played on Saturday night instead, because Christmas.

They can hype the matchup beforehand all they want, and I won't complain - they could have overhyped Jets-Titans, too Thankfully, they didn't) - but once the thing is actually happening, and anyone can SEE it's a snoozer in 5 seconds by checking the scoreboard, it's Baghdad Bob territory to try and hype the competition anyway. Let the announcers have a little fun, perhaps by giving us a play-by-play of the Cribbage game they've got going on in the booth, or trivia about the cameramen (hell, even trivia about the players/coaches - "this coach, currently on the field, was with three other programs the last five years. How many NCAA violations has he left in his wake?"), or just by humorously lugging the coverage along with a well-placed jab - "This one's a nail-biter, but only if you've got OCD. The Alabama-Notre Dame Title Game continues, after this."
 
2013-01-08 11:39:08 AM

Dogfacedgod: Well to the racist cracker's defense...Jemele Hill is terrible, I mean does she even know sports, really? She either sucks a mean dick or this is an "inclusiveness" hire. ("inclusiveness" is the new buzz word for "diversity"), because she has no talent as a journalist, let a one a sports journalist.

What that racist did was secure her job...way to go asshole.


God so much of this, but it sounds more like a made up letter of old racist words than a real complaint letter, I wouldn't put it past her to have this mailed to herself.

She really is a horrible writer and sports personality
 
2013-01-08 11:50:39 AM

Dr Dreidel: or trivia about the cameramen


I would actually like this.

I want to know which guy is the clutch guy for finding the attractive women in the stands (because yes, they all know where they are and can find them quickly when the producer tells them to). Those "thanks to the crew" wrapups aren't enough. I want to know which cameramen get faked out the most by play-action fakes. That would be great. We could compare producer performance (do replays or commercials cut into the next play?).

And most games consist of announcers making a couple references to how the other team is still in it. Al Michaels usually makes a reference to gambling somehow (the only way every game is interesting). Most just point out how a play here or a play there could change the complexion of the game, then go back to babbling about irrelevant things and, what is common now, historical comparisons (how would this team fare against other national champion teams? Compare this to another random team of the past so that school's fans can get riled up at the fact that you'd compare this team to them, and the current team's fans can get mad because they'd kick the sh*t out of that dusty old team.)
 
2013-01-08 12:30:15 PM
I just hope she can rebuild her shattered life after this inhuman travesty.

Stop the oppression of women from random stupid emails!!!
 
2013-01-08 12:30:45 PM

IAmRight: I want to know which guy is the clutch guy for finding the attractive women in the stands (because yes, they all know where they are and can find them quickly when the producer tells them to).


If you've ever had the pleasure of watching the network feed of sportscasts, it's something to behold. Usually the guys operating the "miscellaneous" cameras spend a great deal of time before the game and during timeouts scanning the crowd and locating girls (or other interesting fans) they can instantly cut to during the on-air broadcast. There are guys on the field and in the stands with hand-held cameras, and there are fixed cameras in different locations around the stadium.

When something happens during the game, those camera people know where to go for the reaction shots, and they cut to them almost instantly.
 
2013-01-08 12:47:46 PM

Dogfacedgod: She either sucks a mean dick



i thought she was a lesbian?
 
2013-01-08 01:19:01 PM

Yanks_RSJ: If you've ever had the pleasure of watching the network feed of sportscasts,


They have those often for the AFL, since it's just some crappy online stream for most games. It was funnier before the broadcasters realized their mics were still live on the streams during the breaks, though. But yeah, having known cameramen, they know where everything is.
 
2013-01-08 02:04:24 PM

IAmRight: Yanks_RSJ: If you've ever had the pleasure of watching the network feed of sportscasts,

They have those often for the AFL, since it's just some crappy online stream for most games. It was funnier before the broadcasters realized their mics were still live on the streams during the breaks, though. But yeah, having known cameramen, they know where everything is.


I love the cheerleader frame-ups heading back from a break. Some pretty enjoyable upskirts before they settle on a slightly less risque shot to play under the sponsorship graphics.
 
2013-01-08 02:18:25 PM

Yanks_RSJ: I love the cheerleader frame-ups heading back from a break. Some pretty enjoyable upskirts before they settle on a slightly less risque shot to play under the sponsorship graphics.


I dunno, I found it pretty skeevy having hung out with most of the dance team. Had to sort all the dance team photos for the site (it gets traffic) and felt like a perv the whole time even though I was so worried about looking like a perv that I didn't enjoy it at all.

/plus players are easy to sort pictures of, they all have numbers on the jerseys and you can often sort from the thumbnail. Every single dance team member, you have to open each photo and check it out fairly close, especially early when you don't know their names yet
//then again, many of our opponents' teams seem to employ strippers in those positions and that was more enjoyable
///one of the QB's wives actually filed a public complaint about Orlando's (by far the most stripper-like)
 
2013-01-08 02:23:51 PM

IAmRight: Every single dance team member, you have to open each photo and check it out fairly close, especially early when you don't know their names yet


So, did you cum, or what?
 
2013-01-08 02:30:09 PM
God so much of this, but it sounds more like a made up letter of old racist words than a real complaint letter, I wouldn't put it past her to have this mailed to herself.

She really is a horrible writer and sports personality
 
2013-01-08 02:47:29 PM

Yanks_RSJ: So, did you cum, or what?


People kept walking in right before I could. :/ Damn not giving interns offices.
 
2013-01-08 03:21:32 PM

Champion of the Sun: She's a horrible person. Sports is one of the few places in American culture where everyone can come together and root for the best person for the job. Yes, some racism still exists in sports. But every time there is an issue with a black person involved, she turns it racial. People don't like Mike Vick for a lot of reasons, racism dropped off that list awhile ago. Yet if he's booed or loses endorsements, it's cause he is black. She's never had a real insight, and it's telling that the only people on ESPN that will work with her are the short bus riding first take crew.

/Letter is still wrong though
//Every black person of any notoriety gets them though, quit whining


Your essay would carry more weight if you didn't feel the need to shorten the word 'Because'.
 
2013-01-08 03:38:50 PM
Who?
 
2013-01-08 03:57:43 PM

Vodka Zombie: SnarfVader: the King's English

Thatword.jpg

LOL!

CSB-time:

When I was teaching an English Comp. class a while back, I had one smart-ass, woefully-arrogant student spend the better part of the first day of class yammering to me about how he deserved to be in a more "advanced" class because, as he put it, he had no problem speaking the "King's English."

So, being the bastard troll that I am, I asked him which king.  And, after watching him fumble around in his tattered American brain for a few minutes, he inevitably came back with Edward I, to which I said, "Great!  Everything you write or speak in this class will be consistent with Middle English.  Good luck.  Read Chaucer.  Everyone else, let's learn gerunds."

I will say, the dude gave it a good effort --even went so far as to take a swing at Middle English calligraphy in one of his papers.  In the end, though, after a couple of weeks, he silently reverted back to our modern tongue and shut his trap.  But, I did give him points for trying.


There was nothing in that story that was cool, bro. That was nerd on nerd date rape.
 
2013-01-08 04:21:20 PM

Crewmannumber6: Your essay would carry more weight if you didn't feel the need to shorten the word 'Because'.


I lengthened the word 'cuz'. If you weren't a cousin farker you would've used 'truncate"
 
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