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(KTLA Los Angeles)   Pop quiz hot shot, what celebrity's son is accused of raping a 15 year old girl?   (ktla.com) divider line 71
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2013-01-08 08:59:48 AM
Acts are still within statute of limitations, but the mother is suing rather than pressing charges, her daughter is an aspiring actress, and he's got a recent decently performing movie under his belt?

This isn't a money grab. No, not at all.
 
2013-01-08 09:21:13 AM

sno man: From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project. She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change. She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."


None of which are a qualification to interpret statistical data.
 
2013-01-08 09:32:36 AM

Britney Spear's Speculum: sno man: From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project. She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change. She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."


None of which are a qualification to interpret statistical data.


Anyone calling themselves a psychic isn't qualified to do anything more important than flipping burgers.
 
2013-01-08 10:28:33 AM
Yeah, I did it, so what...

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Im coming for your daughter next!
 
xcv
2013-01-08 10:31:22 AM

sno man: Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot

Nice graphic you got there, too bad it's a lie.
Unreported incidents are just that, unreported. And hard to pin down. The source information for that graphic is from the Statistics from Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2006-2010 and FBI reports. Long story short, the expected percentage of reported rape is 35% (Still disgustingly low, but that's another rant) that graphic shows less than a third of that number. (10%) although it still cites the source that says 35%...
The truth is bad enough.  Exaggeration (or making numbers up out of thin air) doesn't help.


Maybe Alphax would know if he's the one committing the other 25% of cases?
 
2013-01-08 10:52:09 AM

Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot


1 in 4 rape accusations are false

Link

Posted on November 23, 2009 |

I just came across this very interesting (though slightly dated) article written by feminist academic Wendy Elroy whereby she examines the wildly diverging statistics regarding false allegations of sexual assaults. In trying to reconcile the figure oft cited by feminist activists of 2% and the 40-50% rate cited by men's advocacy groups, she correctly places credence in the 25% figure cited in a 1996 study published by the U.S. Department of Justice: Convicted by Juries, Exonerated by Science: Case Studies in the Use of DNA Evidence to Establish Innocence After Trial. She quotes Peter Neufeld and Barry C. Scheck, prominent criminal attorneys and co-founders of the Innocence Project


Every year since 1989, in about 25 percent of the sexual assault cases referred to the FBI where results could be obtained, the primary suspect has been excluded by forensic DNA testing. Specifically, FBI officials report that out of roughly 10,000 sexual assault cases since 1989, about 2,000 tests have been inconclusive, about 2,000 tests have excluded the primary suspect, and about 6,000 have "matched" or included the primary suspect.


The authors continued, "these percentages have remained constant for 7 years, and the National Institute of Justice's informal survey of private laboratories reveals a strikingly similar 26 percent exclusion rate."

If the foregoing results can be extrapolated, then the rate of false reports is roughly between 20 (if DNA excludes an accused) to 40 percent (if inconclusive DNA is added). The relatively low estimate of 25 to 26 percent is probably accurate, especially since it is supported by other sources.

Something to think about before judging someone who is charged with sexual assault (or any other crime for that matter) too quickly or too harshly.
 
2013-01-08 10:53:51 AM
SoCal 15 is like Indiana 20. Add in aspiring actress with a stage mom and she's more like 25. Let him off
 
2013-01-08 11:31:22 AM

hasty ambush: Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot

1 in 4 rape accusations are false

Link

Posted on November 23, 2009 |

I just came across this very interesting (though slightly dated) article written by feminist academic Wendy Elroy whereby she examines the wildly diverging statistics regarding false allegations of sexual assaults. In trying to reconcile the figure oft cited by feminist activists of 2% and the 40-50% rate cited by men's advocacy groups, she correctly places credence in the 25% figure cited in a 1996 study published by the U.S. Department of Justice: Convicted by Juries, Exonerated by Science: Case Studies in the Use of DNA Evidence to Establish Innocence After Trial. She quotes Peter Neufeld and Barry C. Scheck, prominent criminal attorneys and co-founders of the Innocence Project


Every year since 1989, in about 25 percent of the sexual assault cases referred to the FBI where results could be obtained, the primary suspect has been excluded by forensic DNA testing. Specifically, FBI officials report that out of roughly 10,000 sexual assault cases since 1989, about 2,000 tests have been inconclusive, about 2,000 tests have excluded the primary suspect, and about 6,000 have "matched" or included the primary suspect.


The authors continued, "these percentages have remained constant for 7 years, and the National Institute of Justice's informal survey of private laboratories reveals a strikingly similar 26 percent exclusion rate."

If the foregoing results can be extrapolated, then the rate of false reports is roughly between 20 (if DNA excludes an accused) to 40 percent (if inconclusive DNA is added). The relatively low estimate of 25 to 26 percent is probably accurate, especially since it is supported by other sources.

Something to think about before judging someone who is charged with sexual assault (or any other crime for that matter) too quickly or too harshly.


You do realize that a woman can be raped and the cops can arrest the wrong person, right? I clicked the source article (which was a link in the article you cited) and even it states that just because the convicted person was innocent it doesn't mean the woman made up the rape story.

And regardless of the girl's motivations now, EVERY adult knows it is illegal to have sex with a 15-year-old. She might be a greedy biatch, but he should have kept his dick in pants.
 
2013-01-08 11:36:33 AM
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BABY WANNA fark!!

/ good flick, man. great flick actually.
 
2013-01-08 11:58:28 AM

Mike Chewbacca: You do realize that a woman can be raped and the cops can arrest the wrong person, right? I clicked the source article (which was a link in the article you cited) and even it states that just because the convicted person was innocent it doesn't mean the woman made up the rape story.

And regardless of the girl's motivations now, EVERY adult knows it is illegal to have sex with a 15-year-old. She might be a greedy biatch, but he should have kept his dick in pants.


Sadly, even though a rape may have indeed occurred, many times the woman implicates the wrong person. Despite her eyewitness testiomony the DNA evidence says she is maybe not lying but wrong in about 25% of the cases. Eyewitness testimony is among ther least reliable forms of evidence.

Far, far better for a guilty man go free and than innocent man go to jail. I know feminist would just as soon any man be punished for a rape, any man will do for them not necessarily the one who did it but too bad. 25% is too many false convictions. Heck is far too many false allegations given the the accused as virtually no way to recover the damge done to his reputation, bank account (legal fees) or get the arrest removed from his record.
 
2013-01-08 12:06:44 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: sno man: From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project. She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change. She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."


None of which are a qualification to interpret statistical data.


But, but, but she is a woman and they would not lie. A woman must be believed. Oh and don't forget the semi-psychic part whatever the hell that is.
 
2013-01-08 01:52:04 PM

sno man: Alphax: sno man: Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot

Nice graphic you got there, too bad it's a lie.
Unreported incidents are just that, unreported. And hard to pin down. The source information for that graphic is from the Statistics from Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2006-2010 and FBI reports. Long story short, the expected percentage of reported rape is 35% (Still disgustingly low, but that's another rant) that graphic shows less than a third of that number. (10%) although it still cites the source that says 35%...
The truth is bad enough.  Exaggeration (or making numbers up out of thin air) doesn't help.

So you say.

From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project.   She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change.  She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."

I'm sorry that's not a qualification.  I might ask what she did before she was human, but I'm afraid she would actually have an answer.
And lying about the numbers isn't helping.


Bwahaha!! I love you, man...!
 
2013-01-08 03:41:59 PM
People like this are why rape is so hard to convict. Trust me if a guy rapes you the last thing on your mind is going back to see the person. The fact that this all happened over a period of months is quite suspect. This is a total money grab.

The fact that this is a civil law suit & not a criminal law suit is another reason why this is a money grab. If the mother was so fixated on getting justice for her daughter she'd want him in jail.

Did he screw up by screwing a 15yr old when he was 20? Yes he did. Did he rape her. Sounds like he didn't to me. This case should be thrown out & he should be tried for statutory rape.

What I think happened: Girl starts talking to older guy on the net. He says "hey wanna come over? I've got alcohol & drugs!" Girls says "I'd love to!" She goes over. They drink, take drugs, they have sex. After a few months of this mom finds out. Girl screams "I was raped mommy!" Mom starts to see dollar signs. PROFIT!!
 
2013-01-08 03:48:03 PM

nimawai: People like this are why rape is so hard to convict. Trust me if a guy rapes you the last thing on your mind is going back to see the person. The fact that this all happened over a period of months is quite suspect. This is a total money grab.

The fact that this is a civil law suit & not a criminal law suit is another reason why this is a money grab. If the mother was so fixated on getting justice for her daughter she'd want him in jail.

Did he screw up by screwing a 15yr old when he was 20? Yes he did. Did he rape her. Sounds like he didn't to me. This case should be thrown out & he should be tried for statutory rape.

What I think happened: Girl starts talking to older guy on the net. He says "hey wanna come over? I've got alcohol & drugs!" Girls says "I'd love to!" She goes over. They drink, take drugs, they have sex. After a few months of this mom finds out. Girl screams "I was raped mommy!" Mom starts to see dollar signs. PROFIT!!


If he didn't want to get farked, he shouldn't have farked her. And as the mom says, this kind of thing is rampant in Hollywood. Cue "casting couch" joke.
 
2013-01-08 04:55:06 PM
I am going to go with the fact that she was very willing and the reason we are calling it rape is due to the fact that she is underage and the family is trying to make some money off of him. The absence of criminal charges by the family reporting the matter to law enforcement is a very telling sign.
 
2013-01-08 05:00:32 PM

Mike Chewbacca: nimawai: People like this are why rape is so hard to convict. Trust me if a guy rapes you the last thing on your mind is going back to see the person. The fact that this all happened over a period of months is quite suspect. This is a total money grab.

The fact that this is a civil law suit & not a criminal law suit is another reason why this is a money grab. If the mother was so fixated on getting justice for her daughter she'd want him in jail.

Did he screw up by screwing a 15yr old when he was 20? Yes he did. Did he rape her. Sounds like he didn't to me. This case should be thrown out & he should be tried for statutory rape.

What I think happened: Girl starts talking to older guy on the net. He says "hey wanna come over? I've got alcohol & drugs!" Girls says "I'd love to!" She goes over. They drink, take drugs, they have sex. After a few months of this mom finds out. Girl screams "I was raped mommy!" Mom starts to see dollar signs. PROFIT!!

If he didn't want to get farked, he shouldn't have farked her. And as the mom says, this kind of thing is rampant in Hollywood. Cue "casting couch" joke.


As I said if she were that concerned she would have pressed criminal charges. Notice how it's only a civil case? Also if it had been rape she never would have gone back. Especially for a few months. The girl was willing. Yes he should have kept it in his pants, because of her age, but it wasn't rape.
 
2013-01-08 05:08:59 PM

nimawai: Mike Chewbacca: nimawai: People like this are why rape is so hard to convict. Trust me if a guy rapes you the last thing on your mind is going back to see the person. The fact that this all happened over a period of months is quite suspect. This is a total money grab.

The fact that this is a civil law suit & not a criminal law suit is another reason why this is a money grab. If the mother was so fixated on getting justice for her daughter she'd want him in jail.

Did he screw up by screwing a 15yr old when he was 20? Yes he did. Did he rape her. Sounds like he didn't to me. This case should be thrown out & he should be tried for statutory rape.

What I think happened: Girl starts talking to older guy on the net. He says "hey wanna come over? I've got alcohol & drugs!" Girls says "I'd love to!" She goes over. They drink, take drugs, they have sex. After a few months of this mom finds out. Girl screams "I was raped mommy!" Mom starts to see dollar signs. PROFIT!!

If he didn't want to get farked, he shouldn't have farked her. And as the mom says, this kind of thing is rampant in Hollywood. Cue "casting couch" joke.

As I said if she were that concerned she would have pressed criminal charges. Notice how it's only a civil case? Also if it had been rape she never would have gone back. Especially for a few months. The girl was willing. Yes he should have kept it in his pants, because of her age, but it wasn't RAPE rape.


FTFY
 
2013-01-08 05:33:04 PM
You guys are missing the real gem in this article....

The author.

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/Link not quite as hot as she is
 
2013-01-08 07:44:34 PM
i guessed Elvis Polanski, Roman's son
 
2013-01-08 09:13:05 PM
A shame when you have a well-balanced dad like Dennis to show you how to live a proper, nurturing life
 
2013-01-08 09:22:48 PM

B.L.Z. Bub: doglover: Having an age of consent is retarded.

Ahhh, the wisdom of Farkers. So no matter how young the girl (or boy) is, the law shouldn't be concerned? So tell me, doglover, how young do you go? Hmm? How many kids have you diddled, you sick fark?


Age 2.

/in dog years
 
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