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(KTLA Los Angeles)   Pop quiz hot shot, what celebrity's son is accused of raping a 15 year old girl?   (ktla.com) divider line 71
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2013-01-07 11:45:26 PM  
Shoot the hostage.
 
2013-01-07 11:51:51 PM  
According to Herman, Hopper plied the teenager with alcohol and drugs before the assault.

Pabst and nitrous?
 
2013-01-08 12:31:34 AM  
I like how the "assaults" continued for months.

This is a case of a 20 year old bong a 15 year old who's parents found out are are pissed. This woman may be pissed because it didn't give her daughter the career boost she hoped for. I'm just inferring from the strange comment about the daughter trying to make it in the entertainment business.

The kid would have known better than to go after jailbait. Under age sex is bad but calling that kind of thing rape just makes things harder for actual rape cases.
 
2013-01-08 12:51:19 AM  

Gwendolyn: The kid would have known better than to go after jailbait. Under age sex is bad but calling that kind of thing rape just makes things harder for actual rape cases.


Having an age of consent is retarded.

I'm much more grossed out by a 21 year old woman being married off to a 21 year old man by their families than even a 25 year old man and 15 year old girl dating of their own volition. Sure there might be some developmental issues or something, but there's plenty of teenage/adult marriages that have worked and plenty of adult/adult marriages that have failed. Relationships are too complicated to regulate explicitly by law. The best you can hope for is a rule of thumb.

Thus the only just way to examine such cases is individually. If it is determined that there has been victimization, let punishment be applied. If it was actual rape, hang 'em. If it was consensual, that's life. In the grey areas, case by case.
 
2013-01-08 12:53:15 AM  

doglover: If it was consensual, that's life.


I don't mean life in prison, I mean don't allege rape because you're upset your daughter didn't tell you she was dating because you'd flip out. Obviously she was right about you.
 
2013-01-08 01:50:56 AM  
www.eastsidedavecountry.com

"Shiat. I need a farking drink after that story."
 
2013-01-08 02:52:22 AM  
It's too bad she didn't enjoy it because he looks like a handsome young man. Which begs the question of why he needed to rape her in the first place instead of just seducting her with his own natural charms. Kids are just too impatient nowadays, feel the need to just rapeaway right now instead of taking a chance with seduction and the possibility that he might not sex her like right right now.
 
2013-01-08 03:07:05 AM  

doglover: Having an age of consent is retarded.


Ahhh, the wisdom of Farkers. So no matter how young the girl (or boy) is, the law shouldn't be concerned? So tell me, doglover, how young do you go? Hmm? How many kids have you diddled, you sick fark?
 
2013-01-08 03:09:09 AM  
If only he was an established director he wouldn't have to worry about it for 30 years or so...
 
2013-01-08 03:09:18 AM  
What is disturbing is that she kept coming back to him of her own free will, then pulls out the victim card when someone whispers in her ear to sue. She will probably get some go away money, and will cause hell to Hopper because of idiotic age of consent laws. But the case falls apart when she kept going back to him for more of whatever.
 
2013-01-08 03:09:26 AM  
Glenn Beck?
 
2013-01-08 03:09:47 AM  
They met over the internet and she decide to take the next step and meet face to face. The article didn't accuse him of using a date rape drug, so she presumably consumed the alcohol and drugs willingly.  This relationship apparently went on like this for months. This sounds less like rape and more like your typical teenage relationship.

As far as the age thing, 15 and 20 is pushing it, but still close enough in age to not be to big of a deal.  Slap him on the wrist for under age drinking and supplying a minor with alcohol and call it a day.
 
2013-01-08 03:10:23 AM  
Having a news conference to announced you were raped seems like an odd way to handle it. Then again, replying with a 'No comment' is an odd way to defend yourself when accused of rape.
 
2013-01-08 03:12:15 AM  

fusillade762: According to Herman, Hopper plied the teenager with alcohol and drugs before the assault.

Pabst and nitrous?


well played.

FTFA: "Jane Doe's attorney says multiple incidents of sexual assault occurred in the months that followed... and eventually, his client told her mom who is now suing the up-and-coming actor - who last appeared in the film "Restless" - for unspecified damages."

how does this work? multiple incidents?

total shakedown. i hope this girl's mom gets sued for slander or something. what a joke.
 
2013-01-08 03:13:00 AM  
Dude, she was 15. Fifteen.
 
2013-01-08 03:13:28 AM  

Banacek: Having a news conference to announced you were raped seems like an odd way to handle it. Then again, replying with a 'No comment' is an odd way to defend yourself when accused of rape.


No comment is the exact right way to answer anything about criminal or civil charge.
 
2013-01-08 03:17:54 AM  

Hillbilly Jim: Banacek: Having a news conference to announced you were raped seems like an odd way to handle it. Then again, replying with a 'No comment' is an odd way to defend yourself when accused of rape.

No comment is the exact right way to answer anything about criminal or civil charge.


I guess so. I wonder if 'no comment' really was 'please talk to our legal counsel which is handling this case'.
 
2013-01-08 03:20:52 AM  
It was the watch the led them to him, wasn't it?
 
2013-01-08 03:22:32 AM  
Jane Doe, much like the world's oldest person, has to be one of the world's most unfortunate individual,
 
2013-01-08 03:24:01 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: How many kids have you diddled, you sick fark?


None you slanderous, beef-witted, sallow-skinned corpuscle. I've always dated older women. An indeed nature has seen fit to create this thing called puberty whereby you can pretty much draw the line.

Drawing upon that oft used chestnut of how to identify what is wrong: We shall know it when we see it. In Saudi Arabia, there's outrage over a 15 year old girl who was sold to a 90 year old man to be his wife. We can all agree that's wrong. Both the age difference, which is horrible, and the selling of the daughter, which is much more horrible. Saudi Arabia's messed up.

But in the States, thanks to people's attempts to quantify numerically what cannot be quantified numerically, there is or was a boy of 18 sentenced to 10 years hard time for a consensual relationship with his 17 year old girlfriend at the time. Such insanity is the hallmark of poor legal practices and there is no potential good that might be gained by having a law that would allow such a miscarriage of justice to occur on the books for any length of time. Far better to keep it case by case than risk ruining lives that would have been happy but for an arbitrary number produced ex recto.
 
2013-01-08 03:35:14 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: doglover: Having an age of consent is retarded.

Ahhh, the wisdom of Farkers. So no matter how young the girl (or boy) is, the law shouldn't be concerned? So tell me, doglover, how young do you go? Hmm? How many kids have you diddled, you sick fark?


wellthatescalatedquickly.jpeg
 
2013-01-08 03:41:59 AM  

doglover: Gwendolyn: The kid would have known better than to go after jailbait. Under age sex is bad but calling that kind of thing rape just makes things harder for actual rape cases.

Having an age of consent is retarded.

I'm much more grossed out by a 21 year old woman being married off to a 21 year old man by their families than even a 25 year old man and 15 year old girl dating of their own volition. Sure there might be some developmental issues or something, but there's plenty of teenage/adult marriages that have worked and plenty of adult/adult marriages that have failed. Relationships are too complicated to regulate explicitly by law. The best you can hope for is a rule of thumb.

Thus the only just way to examine such cases is individually. If it is determined that there has been victimization, let punishment be applied. If it was actual rape, hang 'em. If it was consensual, that's life. In the grey areas, case by case.


You realize that would mean the courts would be clogged into a virtual stand-still, right? Right now, you can look at a simple metric and determine if the case has merit, i.e what are the three relevant numbers (his age, her age, the age of consent). I fthey match up one way, you begin collecting evidence to see if you canmake a case; if they match up another way, you simply do not proceed. But if everything is a complete crapshoot, you are required to investigate virtually everything, as you have no idea if a crime has been committed or not without in-depth investigation. You would have to invent an entirely new police force just to deal with sexual conflict. Yes, the number is arbitrary. But that doesn't mean abolishing it leads to happy-funtime nirvana.
 
2013-01-08 03:42:35 AM  
She lucked out. If he really took after his dad then she would have been viciously beaten and mentally abused, too.
 
2013-01-08 03:44:37 AM  

rynthetyn: Dude, she was 15. Fifteen.


How old is 15 really?
 
2013-01-08 03:54:32 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: doglover: Having an age of consent is retarded.

Ahhh, the wisdom of Farkers. So no matter how young the girl (or boy) is, the law shouldn't be concerned? So tell me, doglover, how young do you go? Hmm? How many kids have you diddled, you sick fark?


Yeah, how did I know she was 12. She looked 13

// Gotta basketball jones ....
 
2013-01-08 04:10:34 AM  

Gwendolyn: Under age sex is bad but calling that kind of thing rape just makes things harder for actual rape cases.


I would agree if we were talking about a 16 or 17 year old boy, but he was 20. He wasn't another high school student whose girlfriend was a grade or two below him; he was an adult, certainly old enough to know better. Even if the girl did consent, and she very well might have, that's still farking creepy any way you slice it.

He might not be a paedophile, but he's absolutely guilty of statutory rape in this case (assuming that he did it).
 
2013-01-08 04:13:48 AM  

phalamir: You would have to invent an entirely new police force just to deal with sexual conflict.


How many cases like this even come up of a year? A handful per jurisdiction? I doubt it's even that much.

If they'd just legalize corporal punishment for a large variety of misdemeanors, you could expedite any number of cases simply by saying "Look, plead no contest, we smack your ass really hard, and then expunge the record, by the time your butt heals, you name is clear." That's called win-win. Most cases would take hours and we wouldn't even need a secretary because the whole thing would be just expunged anyway. All we'd really need to free up a million court officials is a lot of alcohol wipes in the "butt" size, a selection of burnable bamboo canes, a few cans of liquid bandage, and a paper shredder large enough to handle manila folders at each court house. All the minor cases would be over in minutes.

"You stand accused of petty theft."
"No contest."
"Ten lashes to the buttocks, record expunged. Next!"

Knock all those easy balls outta the park on a Monday morning and you'll be ready to spend the rest of the week going over a tricky case.

The side benefits are less people in for profit prisons, fewer need for prosecuting attorneys, and a great big payday for that one bamboo cane importer who gets there first.
 
2013-01-08 04:29:24 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: [words]


Clarification: I don't think that he's a pervert (given the current information), just an idiot, but idiocy is not a defense.
 
2013-01-08 04:45:54 AM  
"multiple incidents of sexual assault occurred in the months that followed..."

HAHAHAHAHAHHA

"what are you doin?"
"nothin.."
"wanna come over?"
"oh i dunno...the last eight times you RAPED me were kinda weird but ok..as long as there is no RAPE."

JANEDOH@twatter " going to Denis Hoppers son's house...I smell a part"

etc etc etc
assholes
 
2013-01-08 04:46:29 AM  

Apos: [www.eastsidedavecountry.com image 480x264]

"Shiat. I need a farking drink after that story."


awesome gif apos
 
2013-01-08 04:47:32 AM  

doglover: phalamir: You would have to invent an entirely new police force just to deal with sexual conflict.

How many cases like this even come up of a year? A handful per jurisdiction? I doubt it's even that much.

If they'd just legalize corporal punishment for a large variety of misdemeanors, you could expedite any number of cases simply by saying "Look, plead no contest, we smack your ass really hard, and then expunge the record, by the time your butt heals, you name is clear." That's called win-win. Most cases would take hours and we wouldn't even need a secretary because the whole thing would be just expunged anyway. All we'd really need to free up a million court officials is a lot of alcohol wipes in the "butt" size, a selection of burnable bamboo canes, a few cans of liquid bandage, and a paper shredder large enough to handle manila folders at each court house. All the minor cases would be over in minutes.

"You stand accused of petty theft."
"No contest."
"Ten lashes to the buttocks, record expunged. Next!"

Knock all those easy balls outta the park on a Monday morning and you'll be ready to spend the rest of the week going over a tricky case.

The side benefits are less people in for profit prisons, fewer need for prosecuting attorneys, and a great big payday for that one bamboo cane importer who gets there first.


I thought my career was through when the baby pandas kept dying at the zoo. This breathes new life into my bamboo farm.
 
2013-01-08 04:52:06 AM  
my guess is that Jane Doh is a Lohan....
 
2013-01-08 05:10:40 AM  

doglover: Thus the only just way to examine such cases is individually. If it is determined that there has been victimization, let punishment be applied. If it was actual rape, hang 'em. If it was consensual, that's life. In the grey areas, case by case.


The problem with this is one of relative ages of mental competence. It's a little silly to say that people aren't mentally competent to, say, take out a car loan outside of stringent restrictions until they're 18, but they're totally responsible enough to have sex across a five-year age gap between a partner that's legally independent and one that isn't without any worries about exploitation when they're 15. It's dumb to try to prevent teenagers from having sex, and it's equally dumb to let adults take advantage of the inevitability of teenagers to be responsible for their own behavior, so we split the different and do the age of consent plus romeo and juliet caveats bit.

Also... do you not remember being fifteen? I wasn't mentally competent to handle the relationships with the people my own age I was sleeping with without all sorts of farked-up shiat going on, anyone over 20 that sought that shiat out would pretty definitely have been intentionally exploiting my impaired state of mind.
 
2013-01-08 06:25:31 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: doglover: Having an age of consent is retarded.

Ahhh, the wisdom of Farkers. So no matter how young the girl (or boy) is, the law shouldn't be concerned? So tell me, doglover, how young do you go? Hmm? How many kids have you diddled, you sick fark?


Uh, if she's now 17 and he's now 20, and she claims she was raped when she was 15, then he was only 18 at the time.

I don't endorse 18 year-olds screwing 15 year-olds, but neither of them are "kids", you lazy moron.
 
2013-01-08 06:38:22 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Uh, if she's now 17 and he's now 20, and she claims she was raped when she was 15, then he was only 18 at the time.


FTFA: At that time, Hopper was 20 years old, Jane Doe was 15.
 
2013-01-08 06:39:10 AM  
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Payday! *meowth* That's right!
If this was any other guy, the dad would just kick his ass. Since it's Dennis Hopper's son, it's rape accusation and law suit time.
 
2013-01-08 06:41:49 AM  
www.washingtonpost.com
/link is hot
 
2013-01-08 06:48:58 AM  

Kevin72: It's too bad she didn't enjoy it because he looks like a handsome young man. Which begs the question of why he needed to rape her in the first place instead of just seducting her with his own natural charms. Kids are just too impatient nowadays, feel the need to just rapeaway right now instead of taking a chance with seduction and the possibility that he might not sex her like right right now.


0_o
Also, rape doesn't occur because a person is ugly and can't get any. That's not how that works. It's also not due to laziness.
 
2013-01-08 06:55:42 AM  
Roman Polanski's father?
 
2013-01-08 07:00:38 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: doglover: Having an age of consent is retarded.

Ahhh, the wisdom of Farkers. So no matter how young the girl (or boy) is, the law shouldn't be concerned? So tell me, doglover, how young do you go? Hmm? How many kids have you diddled, you sick fark?


Remember, this is the same website that gave us yesterday's thread in which there were some farkers defending bestiality. So expectations should be kept low 'round these parts.
 
2013-01-08 07:16:24 AM  
Was it rape, rape?
i149.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-08 07:17:47 AM  

Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot


Nice graphic you got there, too bad it's a lie.
Unreported incidents are just that, unreported. And hard to pin down. The source information for that graphic is from the Statistics from Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2006-2010 and FBI reports. Long story short, the expected percentage of reported rape is 35% (Still disgustingly low, but that's another rant) that graphic shows less than a third of that number. (10%) although it still cites the source that says 35%...
The truth is bad enough.  Exaggeration (or making numbers up out of thin air) doesn't help.
 
2013-01-08 07:18:57 AM  

sno man: Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot

Nice graphic you got there, too bad it's a lie.
Unreported incidents are just that, unreported. And hard to pin down. The source information for that graphic is from the Statistics from Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2006-2010 and FBI reports. Long story short, the expected percentage of reported rape is 35% (Still disgustingly low, but that's another rant) that graphic shows less than a third of that number. (10%) although it still cites the source that says 35%...
The truth is bad enough.  Exaggeration (or making numbers up out of thin air) doesn't help.


So you say.
 
2013-01-08 07:26:50 AM  
Wow.........where the hell have I been? I didn't even know Hopper died.

Jeez.
 
2013-01-08 07:31:09 AM  
Paging Mr. Lowe.
 
2013-01-08 07:55:49 AM  

Alphax: sno man: Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot

Nice graphic you got there, too bad it's a lie.
Unreported incidents are just that, unreported. And hard to pin down. The source information for that graphic is from the Statistics from Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2006-2010 and FBI reports. Long story short, the expected percentage of reported rape is 35% (Still disgustingly low, but that's another rant) that graphic shows less than a third of that number. (10%) although it still cites the source that says 35%...
The truth is bad enough.  Exaggeration (or making numbers up out of thin air) doesn't help.

So you say.


From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project.   She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change.  She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."

I'm sorry that's not a qualification.  I might ask what she did before she was human, but I'm afraid she would actually have an answer.
And lying about the numbers isn't helping.
 
2013-01-08 07:57:33 AM  

Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot



Statistics ex recto.
 
DGS [TotalFark]
2013-01-08 08:08:21 AM  

Ishkur: Glenn Beck?


Glad this was covered.
 
2013-01-08 08:08:30 AM  
Bad things, man.

Bad things.
 
2013-01-08 08:57:39 AM  
Son of a biatch was right. She tastes like a peach.
 
2013-01-08 08:59:48 AM  
Acts are still within statute of limitations, but the mother is suing rather than pressing charges, her daughter is an aspiring actress, and he's got a recent decently performing movie under his belt?

This isn't a money grab. No, not at all.
 
2013-01-08 09:21:13 AM  

sno man: From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project. She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change. She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."


None of which are a qualification to interpret statistical data.
 
2013-01-08 09:32:36 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: sno man: From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project. She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change. She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."


None of which are a qualification to interpret statistical data.


Anyone calling themselves a psychic isn't qualified to do anything more important than flipping burgers.
 
2013-01-08 10:28:33 AM  
Yeah, I did it, so what...

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Im coming for your daughter next!
 
xcv
2013-01-08 10:31:22 AM  

sno man: Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot

Nice graphic you got there, too bad it's a lie.
Unreported incidents are just that, unreported. And hard to pin down. The source information for that graphic is from the Statistics from Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2006-2010 and FBI reports. Long story short, the expected percentage of reported rape is 35% (Still disgustingly low, but that's another rant) that graphic shows less than a third of that number. (10%) although it still cites the source that says 35%...
The truth is bad enough.  Exaggeration (or making numbers up out of thin air) doesn't help.


Maybe Alphax would know if he's the one committing the other 25% of cases?
 
2013-01-08 10:52:09 AM  

Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot


1 in 4 rape accusations are false

Link

Posted on November 23, 2009 |

I just came across this very interesting (though slightly dated) article written by feminist academic Wendy Elroy whereby she examines the wildly diverging statistics regarding false allegations of sexual assaults. In trying to reconcile the figure oft cited by feminist activists of 2% and the 40-50% rate cited by men's advocacy groups, she correctly places credence in the 25% figure cited in a 1996 study published by the U.S. Department of Justice: Convicted by Juries, Exonerated by Science: Case Studies in the Use of DNA Evidence to Establish Innocence After Trial. She quotes Peter Neufeld and Barry C. Scheck, prominent criminal attorneys and co-founders of the Innocence Project


Every year since 1989, in about 25 percent of the sexual assault cases referred to the FBI where results could be obtained, the primary suspect has been excluded by forensic DNA testing. Specifically, FBI officials report that out of roughly 10,000 sexual assault cases since 1989, about 2,000 tests have been inconclusive, about 2,000 tests have excluded the primary suspect, and about 6,000 have "matched" or included the primary suspect.


The authors continued, "these percentages have remained constant for 7 years, and the National Institute of Justice's informal survey of private laboratories reveals a strikingly similar 26 percent exclusion rate."

If the foregoing results can be extrapolated, then the rate of false reports is roughly between 20 (if DNA excludes an accused) to 40 percent (if inconclusive DNA is added). The relatively low estimate of 25 to 26 percent is probably accurate, especially since it is supported by other sources.

Something to think about before judging someone who is charged with sexual assault (or any other crime for that matter) too quickly or too harshly.
 
2013-01-08 10:53:51 AM  
SoCal 15 is like Indiana 20. Add in aspiring actress with a stage mom and she's more like 25. Let him off
 
2013-01-08 11:31:22 AM  

hasty ambush: Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot

1 in 4 rape accusations are false

Link

Posted on November 23, 2009 |

I just came across this very interesting (though slightly dated) article written by feminist academic Wendy Elroy whereby she examines the wildly diverging statistics regarding false allegations of sexual assaults. In trying to reconcile the figure oft cited by feminist activists of 2% and the 40-50% rate cited by men's advocacy groups, she correctly places credence in the 25% figure cited in a 1996 study published by the U.S. Department of Justice: Convicted by Juries, Exonerated by Science: Case Studies in the Use of DNA Evidence to Establish Innocence After Trial. She quotes Peter Neufeld and Barry C. Scheck, prominent criminal attorneys and co-founders of the Innocence Project


Every year since 1989, in about 25 percent of the sexual assault cases referred to the FBI where results could be obtained, the primary suspect has been excluded by forensic DNA testing. Specifically, FBI officials report that out of roughly 10,000 sexual assault cases since 1989, about 2,000 tests have been inconclusive, about 2,000 tests have excluded the primary suspect, and about 6,000 have "matched" or included the primary suspect.


The authors continued, "these percentages have remained constant for 7 years, and the National Institute of Justice's informal survey of private laboratories reveals a strikingly similar 26 percent exclusion rate."

If the foregoing results can be extrapolated, then the rate of false reports is roughly between 20 (if DNA excludes an accused) to 40 percent (if inconclusive DNA is added). The relatively low estimate of 25 to 26 percent is probably accurate, especially since it is supported by other sources.

Something to think about before judging someone who is charged with sexual assault (or any other crime for that matter) too quickly or too harshly.


You do realize that a woman can be raped and the cops can arrest the wrong person, right? I clicked the source article (which was a link in the article you cited) and even it states that just because the convicted person was innocent it doesn't mean the woman made up the rape story.

And regardless of the girl's motivations now, EVERY adult knows it is illegal to have sex with a 15-year-old. She might be a greedy biatch, but he should have kept his dick in pants.
 
2013-01-08 11:36:33 AM  
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BABY WANNA fark!!

/ good flick, man. great flick actually.
 
2013-01-08 11:58:28 AM  

Mike Chewbacca: You do realize that a woman can be raped and the cops can arrest the wrong person, right? I clicked the source article (which was a link in the article you cited) and even it states that just because the convicted person was innocent it doesn't mean the woman made up the rape story.

And regardless of the girl's motivations now, EVERY adult knows it is illegal to have sex with a 15-year-old. She might be a greedy biatch, but he should have kept his dick in pants.


Sadly, even though a rape may have indeed occurred, many times the woman implicates the wrong person. Despite her eyewitness testiomony the DNA evidence says she is maybe not lying but wrong in about 25% of the cases. Eyewitness testimony is among ther least reliable forms of evidence.

Far, far better for a guilty man go free and than innocent man go to jail. I know feminist would just as soon any man be punished for a rape, any man will do for them not necessarily the one who did it but too bad. 25% is too many false convictions. Heck is far too many false allegations given the the accused as virtually no way to recover the damge done to his reputation, bank account (legal fees) or get the arrest removed from his record.
 
2013-01-08 12:06:44 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: sno man: From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project. She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change. She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."


None of which are a qualification to interpret statistical data.


But, but, but she is a woman and they would not lie. A woman must be believed. Oh and don't forget the semi-psychic part whatever the hell that is.
 
2013-01-08 01:52:04 PM  

sno man: Alphax: sno man: Alphax: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x634]
/link is hot

Nice graphic you got there, too bad it's a lie.
Unreported incidents are just that, unreported. And hard to pin down. The source information for that graphic is from the Statistics from Justice Department, National Crime Victimization Survey: 2006-2010 and FBI reports. Long story short, the expected percentage of reported rape is 35% (Still disgustingly low, but that's another rant) that graphic shows less than a third of that number. (10%) although it still cites the source that says 35%...
The truth is bad enough.  Exaggeration (or making numbers up out of thin air) doesn't help.

So you say.

From their website: (bold is mine)
"Sarah Pierson Beaulieu is the founder of The Enliven Project.   She has had nearly 35 years of experience as a human and over 15 years experience in managing complex relationships and partnerships, fundraising, and systematic approaches to change.  She is a survivor and a truth teller, a poet, a semi-psychic, wife, mom, and a loyal friend."

I'm sorry that's not a qualification.  I might ask what she did before she was human, but I'm afraid she would actually have an answer.
And lying about the numbers isn't helping.


Bwahaha!! I love you, man...!
 
2013-01-08 03:41:59 PM  
People like this are why rape is so hard to convict. Trust me if a guy rapes you the last thing on your mind is going back to see the person. The fact that this all happened over a period of months is quite suspect. This is a total money grab.

The fact that this is a civil law suit & not a criminal law suit is another reason why this is a money grab. If the mother was so fixated on getting justice for her daughter she'd want him in jail.

Did he screw up by screwing a 15yr old when he was 20? Yes he did. Did he rape her. Sounds like he didn't to me. This case should be thrown out & he should be tried for statutory rape.

What I think happened: Girl starts talking to older guy on the net. He says "hey wanna come over? I've got alcohol & drugs!" Girls says "I'd love to!" She goes over. They drink, take drugs, they have sex. After a few months of this mom finds out. Girl screams "I was raped mommy!" Mom starts to see dollar signs. PROFIT!!
 
2013-01-08 03:48:03 PM  

nimawai: People like this are why rape is so hard to convict. Trust me if a guy rapes you the last thing on your mind is going back to see the person. The fact that this all happened over a period of months is quite suspect. This is a total money grab.

The fact that this is a civil law suit & not a criminal law suit is another reason why this is a money grab. If the mother was so fixated on getting justice for her daughter she'd want him in jail.

Did he screw up by screwing a 15yr old when he was 20? Yes he did. Did he rape her. Sounds like he didn't to me. This case should be thrown out & he should be tried for statutory rape.

What I think happened: Girl starts talking to older guy on the net. He says "hey wanna come over? I've got alcohol & drugs!" Girls says "I'd love to!" She goes over. They drink, take drugs, they have sex. After a few months of this mom finds out. Girl screams "I was raped mommy!" Mom starts to see dollar signs. PROFIT!!


If he didn't want to get farked, he shouldn't have farked her. And as the mom says, this kind of thing is rampant in Hollywood. Cue "casting couch" joke.
 
2013-01-08 04:55:06 PM  
I am going to go with the fact that she was very willing and the reason we are calling it rape is due to the fact that she is underage and the family is trying to make some money off of him. The absence of criminal charges by the family reporting the matter to law enforcement is a very telling sign.
 
2013-01-08 05:00:32 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: nimawai: People like this are why rape is so hard to convict. Trust me if a guy rapes you the last thing on your mind is going back to see the person. The fact that this all happened over a period of months is quite suspect. This is a total money grab.

The fact that this is a civil law suit & not a criminal law suit is another reason why this is a money grab. If the mother was so fixated on getting justice for her daughter she'd want him in jail.

Did he screw up by screwing a 15yr old when he was 20? Yes he did. Did he rape her. Sounds like he didn't to me. This case should be thrown out & he should be tried for statutory rape.

What I think happened: Girl starts talking to older guy on the net. He says "hey wanna come over? I've got alcohol & drugs!" Girls says "I'd love to!" She goes over. They drink, take drugs, they have sex. After a few months of this mom finds out. Girl screams "I was raped mommy!" Mom starts to see dollar signs. PROFIT!!

If he didn't want to get farked, he shouldn't have farked her. And as the mom says, this kind of thing is rampant in Hollywood. Cue "casting couch" joke.


As I said if she were that concerned she would have pressed criminal charges. Notice how it's only a civil case? Also if it had been rape she never would have gone back. Especially for a few months. The girl was willing. Yes he should have kept it in his pants, because of her age, but it wasn't rape.
 
2013-01-08 05:08:59 PM  

nimawai: Mike Chewbacca: nimawai: People like this are why rape is so hard to convict. Trust me if a guy rapes you the last thing on your mind is going back to see the person. The fact that this all happened over a period of months is quite suspect. This is a total money grab.

The fact that this is a civil law suit & not a criminal law suit is another reason why this is a money grab. If the mother was so fixated on getting justice for her daughter she'd want him in jail.

Did he screw up by screwing a 15yr old when he was 20? Yes he did. Did he rape her. Sounds like he didn't to me. This case should be thrown out & he should be tried for statutory rape.

What I think happened: Girl starts talking to older guy on the net. He says "hey wanna come over? I've got alcohol & drugs!" Girls says "I'd love to!" She goes over. They drink, take drugs, they have sex. After a few months of this mom finds out. Girl screams "I was raped mommy!" Mom starts to see dollar signs. PROFIT!!

If he didn't want to get farked, he shouldn't have farked her. And as the mom says, this kind of thing is rampant in Hollywood. Cue "casting couch" joke.

As I said if she were that concerned she would have pressed criminal charges. Notice how it's only a civil case? Also if it had been rape she never would have gone back. Especially for a few months. The girl was willing. Yes he should have kept it in his pants, because of her age, but it wasn't RAPE rape.


FTFY
 
2013-01-08 05:33:04 PM  
You guys are missing the real gem in this article....

The author.

b.vimeocdn.com

/Link not quite as hot as she is
 
2013-01-08 07:44:34 PM  
i guessed Elvis Polanski, Roman's son
 
2013-01-08 09:13:05 PM  
A shame when you have a well-balanced dad like Dennis to show you how to live a proper, nurturing life
 
2013-01-08 09:22:48 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: doglover: Having an age of consent is retarded.

Ahhh, the wisdom of Farkers. So no matter how young the girl (or boy) is, the law shouldn't be concerned? So tell me, doglover, how young do you go? Hmm? How many kids have you diddled, you sick fark?


Age 2.

/in dog years
 
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