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(Discovery)   A reconstruction of Amelia Earhart's journey indicates her disappearance was probably due to crabs. (Slide show alert)   (news.discovery.com) divider line 52
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2013-01-07 03:10:31 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

I think he should show us how he would die there.
 
2013-01-07 03:29:24 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x181]

I think he should show us how he would die there.


sounds like she survived for several months, if this person is correct, which is doing pretty good to start with. more air traffic these days would give Les an advantage, plus better emergency radio protocol.
 
2013-01-07 03:29:59 PM  
that an modern aircraft have EPIRBs for this very reason.
 
2013-01-07 03:44:21 PM  
Some of the nicest luggage I ever owned was from the Amelia Earhart Collection, damn airline lost it.

/shaking tiny fist
 
2013-01-07 03:51:45 PM  

Kazan: sounds like she survived for several months, if this person is correct, which is doing pretty good to start with.


Yeah, but the Nazis found her and her family in the end
 
2013-01-07 03:52:02 PM  
Good thing he *almost* got head...

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2013-01-07 03:55:23 PM  
I think it's pretty amazing that she was able to fly a plane at all being completely blind and deaf.
 
2013-01-07 03:57:53 PM  

Ghastly: I think it's pretty amazing that she was able to fly a plane at all being completely blind and deaf.


She was a wizard at Pinball.
 
2013-01-07 03:58:30 PM  

Ghastly: I think it's pretty amazing that she was able to fly a plane at all being completely blind and deaf.


After taking an axe to her parents, she really had no choice.
 
2013-01-07 04:11:51 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Ghastly: I think it's pretty amazing that she was able to fly a plane at all being completely blind and deaf.

After taking an axe to her parents, she really had no choice.


Good thing she left behind her Diary in that attic. Otherwise we would have never known about her life.
 
2013-01-07 04:29:39 PM  
CSB:

I may actually be related to Ms. Earhart, something like third cousin to my grandfather.  Which would explain why I too have a absolutely horrid sense of direction and tend to get lost a lot.  It runs in the family apparently.

/didn't say it was a long story...
 
2013-01-07 04:46:50 PM  
Sounds like they've come up with the most realistic scenario on what happened to them.

/Dying from thrist is a rough way to go.
 
2013-01-07 05:20:21 PM  

Kazan: that an modern aircraft have EPIRBs for this very reason.


the have crab beacons?
 
2013-01-07 06:07:30 PM  
I thought she was lost in the Delta quadrant.
 
2013-01-07 06:55:04 PM  

Mugato: I thought she was lost in the Delta quadrant.


You're thinking of V'Ger.
 
2013-01-07 06:55:12 PM  

zedster: Kazan: that an modern aircraft have EPIRBs for this very reason.

the have crab beacons?


EPIRBS are not just for crabbing boats. Just a term a lot more people will be familiar with than ELT (the aircraft version).

Link
 
2013-01-07 07:24:32 PM  
Did a chick? Dum a chum?
 
2013-01-07 07:39:57 PM  

Ghastly: I think it's pretty amazing that she was able to fly a plane at all being completely blind and deaf that she was a woman.


amirite?
 
2013-01-07 07:56:34 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: I_Am_Weasel: Ghastly: I think it's pretty amazing that she was able to fly a plane at all being completely blind and deaf.

After taking an axe to her parents, she really had no choice.

Good thing she left behind her Diary in that attic. Otherwise we would have never known about her life.


What kind of life could you have anyway, in Austria. What with all those deadly animals.
 
2013-01-07 08:14:08 PM  

Fano: Did a chick? Dum a chum?


Those were lobstrosities. Not crabstrosities. Jeez.

/nice pull though
 
2013-01-07 08:40:35 PM  
Naw, she's alive and well, the Goo preserved her.

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2013-01-07 08:51:25 PM  
I guess spring must be in the air, after a winters nap the Earhart investigators start putting out press relaease in hopes of finding another years funding.

/Earhart was photographed in 1983 in Pairs with Jim Morrison
 
2013-01-07 08:56:32 PM  
Wasn't that already pretty well determined a while ago?
 
2013-01-07 08:58:03 PM  

LordJiro: Wasn't that already pretty well determined a while ago?


Look, if there was a final determination, who would donate for the TIGHAR guys to get a vacation to a tropical island every year to search.
 
2013-01-07 09:06:30 PM  

Kazan: zedster: Kazan: that an modern aircraft have EPIRBs for this very reason.

the have crab beacons?

EPIRBS are not just for crabbing boats. Just a term a lot more people will be familiar with than ELT (the aircraft version).

Link


It was joke
 
2013-01-07 09:20:17 PM  
These guys are cranks. Despite their generic-sounding name, all they do is push this idea that they went incredibly far off course and landed on this island. There's no evidence to support this and all of the evidence points elsewhere. They're something of a joke among actual experts in aviation history, which probably explains why they're on Discovery.
 
2013-01-07 09:29:44 PM  

Ghastly: I think it's pretty amazing that she was able to fly a plane at all being completely blind and deaf.


Well, she was really proud of stitching that American flag together. She was so proud, she was hellbent on a world tour, with it flying in the rear like a bannerplane.
 
2013-01-07 09:41:17 PM  
Ya, right, died of thirst.

Try Smoke Monster, science guy.
 
2013-01-07 10:20:06 PM  

maxwahrhaftig: These guys are cranks. Despite their generic-sounding name, all they do is push this idea that they went incredibly far off course and landed on this island. There's no evidence to support this and all of the evidence points elsewhere. They're something of a joke among actual experts in aviation history, which probably explains why they're on Discovery.


To be fair, there are just as many other cranks out there making money publishing books about how TIGHAR are a bunch of cranks. The entire thing is just a little cottage industry at this point.
 
2013-01-07 10:20:50 PM  

Unknown_Poltroon: LordJiro: Wasn't that already pretty well determined a while ago?

Look, if there was a final determination, who would donate for the TIGHAR guys to get a vacation to a tropical island every year to search.


I know one of them, so true.
 
2013-01-07 10:22:17 PM  
How did she find time to watch all the gorillas?
 
2013-01-07 10:32:07 PM  
...There was a special on PBS a while back that suggested that Noonan was, shall we say, under the weather when they took off, and Earhart (who was at best a competent pilot) had to navigate for herself, and ended up missing Howland.

/just sayin'
 
2013-01-07 11:22:40 PM  

Shadowknight: lobstrosities


Thanks for reminding the rest of us of one of S. King's stupider words...
 
2013-01-07 11:26:19 PM  

AtlanticCoast63: ...There was a special on PBS a while back that suggested that Noonan was, shall we say, under the weather when they took off, and Earhart (who was at best a competent pilot) had to navigate for herself, and ended up missing Howland.

/just sayin'


I remember this. Didn't they also say/imply that she had some 'daddy issues' with her husband that drove her to be so 'adventure-y'?
 
2013-01-08 01:04:40 AM  
People need to understand how bad a navigation error getting to Nikumaroro would be. This isn't just a little off, this is like aiming for Maryland and arriving in the Gulf of Mexico. With the equipment they had they couldn't miss this badly. Plus, they radioed the Ithasca at Howland Island and Ithasca had radio direcyion finders. If they were 650+ miles away Ithasca could not have found them.

The only evidence TIGHAR has is that people were on Nikumaroro which isn't in dispute by anyone since hundred of people lived there for almost 100 years,
 
2013-01-08 01:06:00 AM  
I heard she was stuck inside a cryo-chamber on a planet in the Delta Quadrant.
 
2013-01-08 01:14:07 AM  
 
2013-01-08 03:15:36 AM  

Fano: Did a chick? Dum a chum?


Those were lobsters, asshole.
 
2013-01-08 03:50:15 AM  
Just follow the trail of pickup trucks ;)

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2013-01-08 05:31:57 AM  
First line of first slide: July 13, 2012. Is there a "followup" in a later slide, or am I the only person who even read the first word of the "article?"
 
2013-01-08 08:08:40 AM  

dalbuc: People need to understand how bad a navigation error getting to Nikumaroro would be. This isn't just a little off, this is like aiming for Maryland and arriving in the Gulf of Mexico. With the equipment they had they couldn't miss this badly. Plus, they radioed the Ithasca at Howland Island and Ithasca had radio direcyion finders. If they were 650+ miles away Ithasca could not have found them.

The only evidence TIGHAR has is that people were on Nikumaroro which isn't in dispute by anyone since hundred of people lived there for almost 100 years,


Actually, Nikumaroro is just 350 nautical miles away from Howland Island (Just measured it in Google Earth).

It is 2,275 nautical miles from her departure point (Lae) to Howland. A Lockheed Electra cruises at about 165 knots, so it would take 2,275/190 = ~12 hours to fly that distance. If there was an unexpected cross wind of a mere 14 knots, that could account for at least half that error. Then if she guess in the wrong direction, flying south instead of north, she could have made it to Gardner/Nikumaroro.

Having said that, I think the most logical answer is that she was within 100 miles or so of Howland when she went down, because the radio man on duty in the Itasca says her signals were quite strong, and that the reason she probably couldn't get a good bearing on the Itasca was that her direction finder was overwhelmed by the loud signal strength of the Itasca's transmissions, and she couldn't get a "minimum" signal on her loop DF antenna.

Loop antennas used for direction finding, like the one on the Electra, have some limitations. If the signal is too strong, you can't get a reliable "null". Likewise, if the signal is too weak, the null might be so wide as to be useless. In this case, however, the radio operator on the Itasca said her signals were so loud that he expected her to land any minute, so it's likely that neither could get a reliable bearing because they were very close.

Today, ham radio operators who use loop antennas for direction finding deal with the problem of too much signal by adding resisters to knock the signal down to where they can get a good bearing again, or by turning down the RF gain of the receiver if it has such a control.
 
2013-01-08 08:09:50 AM  

dittybopper: too much signal by adding resisters resistors to knock the signal down


FTFM.
 
2013-01-08 08:21:09 AM  
I bet she ate Noonan.

the sea will tell.
 
2013-01-08 08:44:49 AM  
Women, this is why you shave the beaver. Don't have to worry about crabs.
 
2013-01-08 08:46:47 AM  
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She forgot the face of her father.
 
2013-01-08 08:51:31 AM  
How DARE Discovery Communications actually post content about exploration and the solving of mysteries
when the server space could be used to publicize the plight of inbred child pagent contestants who are also
members of an insular fundamentalist religious community who restore farm equipment!

/Weeps for our modern age
 
2013-01-08 09:04:17 AM  
Helping all those slaves on the underground railroad was pretty cool of her too
 
2013-01-08 09:38:26 AM  
Meh, the Tighar people are full of shiat. They decided where they thought she landed 20 years ago and ever since have been taking every piece of "evidence" they can to prove that point, while ignoring other evidence.
 
2013-01-08 02:07:03 PM  

AtlanticCoast63: ...There was a special on PBS a while back that suggested that Noonan was, shall we say, under the weather when they took off, and Earhart (who was at best a competent pilot) had to navigate for herself, and ended up missing Howland.

/just sayin'


I think that was implied in the recent Hilary Swank movie as well. That movie really sucked, by the way. Disjointed, and kept pushing the Gore Vidal association for no damn reason. "The Final Flight" is easily the only Earhart movie that needs to be told, pretty good for what it was.
 
2013-01-08 02:16:18 PM  
home.cmit.netCrabs can get quite large.
 
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