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2013-01-07 03:00:46 PM

Corvus: Diogenes: Corvus: Paul Baumer: It's not even the values hypocrisy so much as he lied to his staff and his constituents about his official activities. Repeatedly. How the fark can you even show your face in public, let alone run for office again? I realize that the modern GOP/Tea Party has no capacity for shame, but good lord, how can you claim the moral high ground on anything if this guy is your representative?

THIS. He actually screwed over his staff and office over it.

And refused to resign as governor of a state in which adultery is still illegal.

And BTW, Subby, HOTY candidate for sure.

What I also think is very crazy is he said he was going to CONTINUE to have his affair. And no one brought that up.


At least Jenny finally got up the nerve to dump his ass.  Which is more than I can say for Vitter's wife.

Jenny long-suspected she was in a loveless, politically expedient marriage.
 
2013-01-07 03:01:50 PM
Dear Subby

We are not worthy...

thedailyeater.com

/why yes...that IS a deliberate choice of photo
 
2013-01-07 03:02:03 PM
Now that is a headline. Bravo.
 
2013-01-07 03:04:18 PM

GhostFish: I care less about the affair than the fact that he used public funds and resources to carry it out.

This is the kind of fiscal responsibility that Republicans want?


You sound like a republican. I understand your predicament. Now, let's do the calculus and solve for why? Was it productive for Newt Gingrinch and a republican congress to spend $75 million of public taxpayer dollars over 4 years to find out that Bill Clinton did not profit from a real estate deal in the 70's, but was in fact, getting blowjobs from an intern in the 90's? For comparative research, see the $3 million of public funds appropriated by the subsequent republican congress to investigate, after despairing widows shamed them into, the intelligence failures that led to 9/11.
 
2013-01-07 03:06:15 PM
Hehe nice one subby.
 
2013-01-07 03:06:39 PM

AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?


Mark Sanford (D-SC)


That's how.

/and even then, that's assuming they even acknowledge that he had an affair in the first place
//they'll probably try to invert the "repeat a lie enough times and it becomes the truth" method of propaganda -- if they go without mentioning his affair when talking about him enough times, then his affair didn't happen
///and any mention that it did happen is the liberal-in-Obama's-pocket-mainstream-LIOPMSM-media trying to make a Real American™ look bad, even if that mention is replaying the video from the press conference where Sanford publicly admitting to having had an affair
 
2013-01-07 03:06:43 PM

Diogenes: AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?

Mark Sanford is a member of The Family.

The Family believes its members are chosen by God to do great things.  So these moral lapses are to be forgiven, because He has greater plans for them.  It allows them to do all sorts of bad things.  Moral consistency is merely a quaint idea in their world.

While The Family and its henchmen were counseling Jenny Sanford to stay with that weak, pathetic POS, they were also arranging bribes to John Ensign's mistress and her husband, and setting up a little love shack for Chip Pickering.

Morals, like laws and taxes in their mind, are for the little people.


The Family scares me just because they are the next logical step in the Prosperity Gospel movement. Saw an interview with a former member probably 5 years ago where he said during his initiation his mentor was explaining about all the people in the Old Testament who committed horrible acts but did not lose God's favor in the process. Why? Because they were God's Chosen People, so they had his implicit blessing. Even though they did things we might consider evil, God approved of them. Ultimately, only God knows what is right and what is wrong, so we have only our success or failures in this life to determine if God approves or disapproves of our actions.

The Prosperity Gospel says that succeeding in life is a sign of one's piety, that those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished in life as well as the afterlife. These jokers say that we really can't know for sure what God would find to be good or evil, so success in life is the sign that whatever you have done to get there has been what God wanted you to do. It's LaVey Satanism with an extra scoop of righteous indignation when you point out how heartless it is.
 
2013-01-07 03:09:20 PM

Diogenes: Here's some fun reading for y'all:

Why Sanford didn't resign: He's just like King David


Yet more evidence that Republicans don't acknowledge the parts of the Bible they don't like. I wonder if Ms. Chapur knows that Marky doesn't plan for their firstborn child to live past it's first week?
 
2013-01-07 03:15:09 PM
Ohhhh myyyyyyy. Well done subby, well done!
 
2013-01-07 03:26:07 PM

Grungehamster: Diogenes: AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?

Mark Sanford is a member of The Family.

The Family believes its members are chosen by God to do great things.  So these moral lapses are to be forgiven, because He has greater plans for them.  It allows them to do all sorts of bad things.  Moral consistency is merely a quaint idea in their world.

While The Family and its henchmen were counseling Jenny Sanford to stay with that weak, pathetic POS, they were also arranging bribes to John Ensign's mistress and her husband, and setting up a little love shack for Chip Pickering.

Morals, like laws and taxes in their mind, are for the little people.

The Family scares me just because they are the next logical step in the Prosperity Gospel movement. Saw an interview with a former member probably 5 years ago where he said during his initiation his mentor was explaining about all the people in the Old Testament who committed horrible acts but did not lose God's favor in the process. Why? Because they were God's Chosen People, so they had his implicit blessing. Even though they did things we might consider evil, God approved of them. Ultimately, only God knows what is right and what is wrong, so we have only our success or failures in this life to determine if God approves or disapproves of our actions.

The Prosperity Gospel says that succeeding in life is a sign of one's piety, that those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished in life as well as the afterlife. These jokers say that we really can't know for sure what God would find to be good or evil, so success in life is the sign that whatever you have done to get there has been what God wanted you to do. It's LaVey Satanism with an extra scoop of righteous indignation when you point out how heartless it is.


I've done much reading on them and their history and I'd say you nailed it.

And it allows them to support some of history's greatest monsters:  Suharto, Aristide, and yes, even Hitler (the man knew how to run an operation!).

And don't be fooled by Tom Coburn's occasional appearances of sanity and rationality.  He's a key member, and a valuable face man.  He, too, has ties to The Family's ongoing efforts in making Uganda's "kill the gays" agenda a reality.
 
2013-01-07 03:26:49 PM

Grungehamster: Diogenes: AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?

Mark Sanford is a member of The Family.

The Family believes its members are chosen by God to do great things.  So these moral lapses are to be forgiven, because He has greater plans for them.  It allows them to do all sorts of bad things.  Moral consistency is merely a quaint idea in their world.

While The Family and its henchmen were counseling Jenny Sanford to stay with that weak, pathetic POS, they were also arranging bribes to John Ensign's mistress and her husband, and setting up a little love shack for Chip Pickering.

Morals, like laws and taxes in their mind, are for the little people.

The Family scares me just because they are the next logical step in the Prosperity Gospel movement. Saw an interview with a former member probably 5 years ago where he said during his initiation his mentor was explaining about all the people in the Old Testament who committed horrible acts but did not lose God's favor in the process. Why? Because they were God's Chosen People, so they had his implicit blessing. Even though they did things we might consider evil, God approved of them. Ultimately, only God knows what is right and what is wrong, so we have only our success or failures in this life to determine if God approves or disapproves of our actions.

The Prosperity Gospel says that succeeding in life is a sign of one's piety, that those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished in life as well as the afterlife. These jokers say that we really can't know for sure what God would find to be good or evil, so success in life is the sign that whatever you have done to get there has been what God wanted you to do. It's LaVey Satanism with an extra scoop of righteous indignation when you point out how heartless it is.


On a long enough timeline, most religions become justifications for whatever you want. Its the evolutionary end of them.
 
2013-01-07 03:28:35 PM

Karac: aevert: EyeballKid: [thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com image 334x512]
SOUTH CAROLINA VOTERS
Yep, they're that stupid.

Hey, now. I voted for Alvin Green. But then again I only did it for the lulz.

I voted for him because I thought a probably retarded, unemployed, living with his father, horndog whose method of 'breaking the ice' borders on criminal would probably be more responsible and honest than Jim DeMint.


This!

/wrote in Cthulu for my vote
 
2013-01-07 03:29:38 PM
Bravo, subby!
 
2013-01-07 03:29:50 PM

Diogenes: Grungehamster: Diogenes: AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?

Mark Sanford is a member of The Family.

The Family believes its members are chosen by God to do great things.  So these moral lapses are to be forgiven, because He has greater plans for them.  It allows them to do all sorts of bad things.  Moral consistency is merely a quaint idea in their world.

While The Family and its henchmen were counseling Jenny Sanford to stay with that weak, pathetic POS, they were also arranging bribes to John Ensign's mistress and her husband, and setting up a little love shack for Chip Pickering.

Morals, like laws and taxes in their mind, are for the little people.

The Family scares me just because they are the next logical step in the Prosperity Gospel movement. Saw an interview with a former member probably 5 years ago where he said during his initiation his mentor was explaining about all the people in the Old Testament who committed horrible acts but did not lose God's favor in the process. Why? Because they were God's Chosen People, so they had his implicit blessing. Even though they did things we might consider evil, God approved of them. Ultimately, only God knows what is right and what is wrong, so we have only our success or failures in this life to determine if God approves or disapproves of our actions.

The Prosperity Gospel says that succeeding in life is a sign of one's piety, that those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished in life as well as the afterlife. These jokers say that we really can't know for sure what God would find to be good or evil, so success in life is the sign that whatever you have done to get there has been what God wanted you to do. It's LaVey Satanism with an extra scoop of righteous indignation when you point out how heartless it is.

I've done much reading on them and their history and I'd say you nailed it.

And it allows them to support some of h ...


both you guys are really depressing me this monday. If there is one thing that I think is the most threatening to our structure of government it is this unholy blend of craven, ends justify the means, amoral power lusting combined with righteous indignation and religious pandering. Seriously it scares me more than ANY other thing. It's a political apex predator.
 
2013-01-07 03:35:01 PM

King Something: AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?

Mark Sanford (D-SC)

That's how.


Holy crap, I forgot about that!

intershame.com
 
2013-01-07 03:41:19 PM

Esc7: both you guys are really depressing me this monday. If there is one thing that I think is the most threatening to our structure of government it is this unholy blend of craven, ends justify the means, amoral power lusting combined with righteous indignation and religious pandering. Seriously it scares me more than ANY other thing. It's a political apex predator.


I hear you.  But look at it this way:  this group tries very hard to operate under the radar.  The more we look at them and talk about them, the more we deny them one of their greatest weapons:  secrecy.  The conspiracy nuts, much like many conservatives, are fighting imaginary threats.  The Family is a very real one, and is as close to a true (and successful) secret society you'll find.  They despise democracy.
 
2013-01-07 03:43:44 PM
OK, refresh my memory, which dumbfark is he (not clicking an NRO link, they're a bunch of idiots) ...

Oh, that asshole. He'll fit right in. Kinda surprised he's not a member of Congress already.
 
2013-01-07 03:46:18 PM
I think the Sanford affiar, his run for congress, and perhaps Fark itself are elaborate hoaxes orchestrated by subby just so he could submit this headline.

It's just a little too perfect.
 
2013-01-07 03:48:44 PM

EyeballKid: Karac: EyeballKid: [thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com image 334x512]
SOUTH CAROLINA VOTERS
Yep, they're that stupid.

The guy Alvin Greene ran against just resigned a third of the way through his term.
So stupid to vote for someone that actually wants the job an obvious patsy hand-picked by Jim DeMint.


/ftfy


From WikiPedia
The day after the primary election, the media reported that Greene was facing felony obscenity charges stemming from a November 2009 arrest for allegedly showing a pornographic picture on an Internet site to an 18-year-old female University of South Carolina student in a computer lab, and then allegedly saying to her "Let's go to your room."

On August 12, 2010, a Richland County grand jury indicted Greene for disseminating, procuring or promoting obscenity - a felony - as well as a misdemeanor charge of communicating obscene materials to a person without consent .


So . . . a good candidate?
 
2013-01-07 03:49:31 PM

AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?


The same way Bristol Palin's offspring is a mirakul from Gawd and she's a mature, responsible woman for choosing not to abort it. Those other single teen moms are just whores who deserve whatever happens since they're just going to be useless welfare queens anyway.
 
2013-01-07 03:54:18 PM
B-b-b-but Republicans are gay and hate Hispanics.
 
2013-01-07 03:55:40 PM

AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?


You can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves in to.
 
2013-01-07 04:20:34 PM

Grungehamster: Diogenes: AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?

Mark Sanford is a member of The Family.

The Family believes its members are chosen by God to do great things.  So these moral lapses are to be forgiven, because He has greater plans for them.  It allows them to do all sorts of bad things.  Moral consistency is merely a quaint idea in their world.

While The Family and its henchmen were counseling Jenny Sanford to stay with that weak, pathetic POS, they were also arranging bribes to John Ensign's mistress and her husband, and setting up a little love shack for Chip Pickering.

Morals, like laws and taxes in their mind, are for the little people.

The Family scares me just because they are the next logical step in the Prosperity Gospel movement. Saw an interview with a former member probably 5 years ago where he said during his initiation his mentor was explaining about all the people in the Old Testament who committed horrible acts but did not lose God's favor in the process. Why? Because they were God's Chosen People, so they had his implicit blessing. Even though they did things we might consider evil, God approved of them. Ultimately, only God knows what is right and what is wrong, so we have only our success or failures in this life to determine if God approves or disapproves of our actions.

The Prosperity Gospel says that succeeding in life is a sign of one's piety, that those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished in life as well as the afterlife. These jokers say that we really can't know for sure what God would find to be good or evil, so success in life is the sign that whatever you have done to get there has been what God wanted you to do. It's LaVey Satanism with an extra scoop of righteous indignation when you point out how heartless it is.


OK, can I use this?
 
2013-01-07 04:28:53 PM

Karac: aevert: EyeballKid: [thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com image 334x512]
SOUTH CAROLINA VOTERS
Yep, they're that stupid.

Hey, now. I voted for Alvin Green. But then again I only did it for the lulz.

I voted for him because I thought a probably retarded, unemployed, living with his father, horndog whose method of 'breaking the ice' borders on criminal would probably be more responsible and honest than Jim DeMint.


This is also true.
 
2013-01-07 04:34:28 PM

aevert: Karac: aevert: EyeballKid: [thestrangedeathofliberalamerica.com image 334x512]
SOUTH CAROLINA VOTERS
Yep, they're that stupid.

Hey, now. I voted for Alvin Green. But then again I only did it for the lulz.

I voted for him because I thought a probably retarded, unemployed, living with his father, horndog whose method of 'breaking the ice' borders on criminal would probably be more responsible and honest than Jim DeMint.

This is also true.


Agreed.
 
2013-01-07 04:47:12 PM

Allen. The end.: Grungehamster: Diogenes: AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?

Mark Sanford is a member of The Family.

The Family believes its members are chosen by God to do great things.  So these moral lapses are to be forgiven, because He has greater plans for them.  It allows them to do all sorts of bad things.  Moral consistency is merely a quaint idea in their world.

While The Family and its henchmen were counseling Jenny Sanford to stay with that weak, pathetic POS, they were also arranging bribes to John Ensign's mistress and her husband, and setting up a little love shack for Chip Pickering.

Morals, like laws and taxes in their mind, are for the little people.

The Family scares me just because they are the next logical step in the Prosperity Gospel movement. Saw an interview with a former member probably 5 years ago where he said during his initiation his mentor was explaining about all the people in the Old Testament who committed horrible acts but did not lose God's favor in the process. Why? Because they were God's Chosen People, so they had his implicit blessing. Even though they did things we might consider evil, God approved of them. Ultimately, only God knows what is right and what is wrong, so we have only our success or failures in this life to determine if God approves or disapproves of our actions.

The Prosperity Gospel says that succeeding in life is a sign of one's piety, that those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished in life as well as the afterlife. These jokers say that we really can't know for sure what God would find to be good or evil, so success in life is the sign that whatever you have done to get there has been what God wanted you to do. It's LaVey Satanism with an extra scoop of righteous indignation when you point out how heartless it is.

OK, can I use this?


You are welcome to.
 
2013-01-07 04:51:16 PM

One Million: Seven days in, and we already have the headline of the year.


I concur
 
2013-01-07 04:57:58 PM

KyngNothing: SmackLT: El_Frijole_Blanco: **********golf clap

I'm missing the joke. What's the reference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sanford_disappearance_and_extramar it al_affair

He was "hiking the Appalachian trail" all the way to some Argentine strange...


Ah. Got him confused with Larry Craig. Thanks.
 
2013-01-07 05:01:20 PM

Allen. The end.: OK, can I use this?


You might appreciate reading both of Jeff Sharlett's books:   The Family, and C-Street.
 
2013-01-07 05:01:54 PM
These are the only jobs some of these guys can get for themselves, and their (?)families.
 
2013-01-07 05:06:57 PM

Grungehamster: The Prosperity Gospel says that succeeding in life is a sign of one's piety, that those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished in life as well as the afterlife. These jokers say that we really can't know for sure what God would find to be good or evil, so success in life is the sign that whatever you have done to get there has been what God wanted you to do. It's LaVey Satanism with an extra scoop of righteous indignation when you point out how heartless it is.


I guess this absolves them of any responsibility to actually, like, you know, live their lives in accordance with the teachings of their faith, right?

Where have we seen that before?
 
2013-01-07 05:29:19 PM
Its ok he only cheated on his wife with a foreigner so thats like sleeping with the maid and dosent count.
 
2013-01-07 06:10:42 PM

Stone Meadow: Grungehamster: The Prosperity Gospel says that succeeding in life is a sign of one's piety, that those who do good are rewarded and those who do evil are punished in life as well as the afterlife. These jokers say that we really can't know for sure what God would find to be good or evil, so success in life is the sign that whatever you have done to get there has been what God wanted you to do. It's LaVey Satanism with an extra scoop of righteous indignation when you point out how heartless it is.

I guess this absolves them of any responsibility to actually, like, you know, live their lives in accordance with the teachings of their faith, right?

Where have we seen that before?


I was trying to find the article I saw before (it was definitely during the 2008 campaign because people were using it to criticize how chummy Hillary Clinton was with the group in the primaries), but to give you an idea:

Attempting to explain what it means to be chosen for leadership like King David was - or Mark Sanford, according to his own estimate - he asked a young man who'd put himself, body and soul, under the Family's authority, "Let's say I hear you raped three little girls. What would I think of you?" The man guessed that Coe would probably think that he was a monster. "No," answered Coe, "I wouldn't." Why? Because, as a member of the Family, he's among what Family leaders refer to as the "new chosen." If you're chosen, the normal rules don't apply.
 
2013-01-07 09:54:29 PM
Great headline, Subby. You big dummy.
 
2013-01-07 10:50:08 PM

AeAe: How do conservative voters reconcile their 'family values' with regard to an admitted adulterer?


That only applies to their candidate's opponent and anybody who disagrees with them.
 
2013-01-07 11:31:48 PM
Nice headline. Too bad you couldn't work in the Appalachian trail.
 
2013-01-07 11:36:09 PM

Diogenes: Here's some fun reading for y'all:

Why Sanford didn't resign: He's just like King David

Sanford's press briefing on the affair:   Transcript


Holy cow, he really said that.
 
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