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2013-01-07 01:09:04 PM
8 votes:
any group that has florida ranked near the top in education is totally suspect.
2013-01-07 04:40:14 PM
7 votes:
FTA: The California-based nonprofit was founded by Michelle Rhee, who has previously served as chancellor of the public schools in Washington, DC and is criticized as someone who is anti-union.

The report recommends that Maine move away from giving teachers pensions and instead gravitate toward a 401k program.


Why is a report evaluating how well a public education system is teaching the children suggesting a 401k plan rather than a pension plan for the teachers?

Methinks this nonprofit does have a hidden agenda or more.
2013-01-07 05:16:38 PM
6 votes:

mgshamster:
There are three primary categories:
1) Elevate Teaching
2) Empower Parents
3) Spend Wisely & Govern Well

Plus an "Overall" category that combines the scores to give the map above.


Suspiciously missing: student academic achievement
2013-01-07 05:02:26 PM
6 votes:

Wook: /obligatory bump for my friends in the Tea Party. I could care less what a card carrying democrat will ever think of me. Flame on biatches.


Thus displaying how Teaducation has benefited you. If you "could" care less, then you care more than you should. The proper usage is "couldn't care less", thereby signifying that you have no regard for what others think of you.
2013-01-07 04:54:50 PM
5 votes:
Not often you see "tea party" and "education" in the same sentence without an "opposed to" or "completely lacks" thrown in.
2013-01-07 05:00:29 PM
4 votes:
Are these the same group of people who thought Romney would win by a landslide?

/went there
//they deserve every bit of it
2013-01-07 04:55:49 PM
4 votes:
The amount of derp from the Tea Party is farking astounding.
2013-01-07 05:34:20 PM
3 votes:

mgshamster: In case anyone wants to see the actual report, here it is.

And here's the map:

[s1.postimage.org image 469x340]

There are three primary categories:
1) Elevate Teaching
2) Empower Parents
3) Spend Wisely & Govern Well

Plus an "Overall" category that combines the scores to give the map above.


Elevate Teaching: How much the teacher can teach whatever they want, as long as it's about Jesus. Also suitably vague to give high marks to anyone who we want in first place

Empower Parents: If mom wants Billy to learn the Earth is flat, by golly, we'll teach it!

Spend Wisely and Govern Well: Crush Unions
2013-01-07 04:59:12 PM
3 votes:
"Tea Party-friendly education group" seems as odd a phrase as "logical creationists and flat-earth society members."
2013-01-07 04:06:15 PM
3 votes:
They've placed more than 88% of their graduates at Clem's Refrigerator and Exotic Dance College. Go Frosted Tassels!!
2013-01-07 03:42:55 PM
3 votes:

FlashHarry: didn't louisiana just tell the creationists to fark off recently?


The Orleans Parish School Board did.  Which was great, and all, but public schools in New Orleans already excel in kids not learning anything, so adding creationism to the heap isn't as big a deal as it sounds.
2013-01-07 05:44:08 PM
2 votes:

Crotchrocket Slim: bgflores: Wook: /obligatory bump for my friends in the Tea Party. I could care less what a card carrying democrat will ever think of me. Flame on biatches.

Thus displaying how Teaducation has benefited you. If you "could" care less, then you care more than you should. The proper usage is "couldn't care less", thereby signifying that you have no regard for what others think of you.

As much as I like flimsy excuses to flame Teahadists this has debate has been somewhat settled recently in that both forms actually mean the same thing in every day usage (though in more formal settings you are still 100% correct bgflores
/fair is fair
//kicking myself for not mocking the 'bagger for his potentially intentional use error too


Who recently settled this debate that would allow contradictory phrases to mean the same thing?
2013-01-07 05:19:44 PM
2 votes:
Actually, coming from Louisiana's public school system to Texas...

I'm more surprised Texas is rated higher than Louisiana in these studies most of the time. There are some God awful schools here in Houston. -Worse than many in Louisiana (and I know quite a lot about the state of Louisiana's education system, I went to a magnet school for the entire state of Louisiana with people from all over the state).

That also being said, I've worked with 4.0 GPA engineers from Berkeley that were as dumb as a rock, and a Chemist from Harvard, who while intelligent, seemed to know less about Chemistry than I did (took 4 years of Chemistry because I thought it was cool while pursuing my CS degree).

Of course the running joke in Louisiana about the education system goes something like this...

"The governor of Louisiana was asked by reporters what he thought about Louisiana coming in 49th in the country for education...To which he replied... 'Thank God for Arkansas.'"
2013-01-07 05:12:30 PM
2 votes:
Michelle Rhee = useful idiot

She was an abject failure in improving DC schools. Rhee's a much better self-promoter than education reformer.
2013-01-07 05:00:26 PM
2 votes:
In case anyone wants to see the actual report, here it is.

And here's the map:

s1.postimage.org

There are three primary categories:
1) Elevate Teaching
2) Empower Parents
3) Spend Wisely & Govern Well

Plus an "Overall" category that combines the scores to give the map above.
2013-01-07 04:53:21 PM
2 votes:
Yes, we should all strive to be like Florida where crooked real estate type are able to run their own Charter School.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-07 02:24:53 PM
2 votes:
Louisiana was the highest rated.  I'll bet Mainers really envy Louisiana's education system.
2013-01-07 01:19:24 PM
2 votes:
Maybe it is time to reconsider allowing secession.
2013-01-07 08:01:40 PM
1 votes:

tallguywithglasseson: mongbiohazard: So yeah, I think I'll believe the governor on this one and not the president of the teachers union.

You mean Maine's Tea Party governor was friendly to Rhee's group?



Oddly enough, it seems so. I am certainly not as familiar with LePage as I am with MIchelle Rhee, being down here in DC and all, but if someone is claiming Michelle Rhee is a Tea Partier then right there that's pretty much all the red flag about them I need. You don't just say someone is a member of a group like that FOR them, you have to know it's a lie when you open your mouth and make those words up.
2013-01-07 07:55:45 PM
1 votes:

GhostfacedFiddlah: Ray Vaughn: Crotchrocket Slim: Ray Vaughn: Crotchrocket Slim: bgflores: Wook: /obligatory bump for my friends in the Tea Party. I could care less what a card carrying democrat will ever think of me. Flame on biatches.

Thus displaying how Teaducation has benefited you. If you "could" care less, then you care more than you should. The proper usage is "couldn't care less", thereby signifying that you have no regard for what others think of you.

As much as I like flimsy excuses to flame Teahadists this has debate has been somewhat settled recently in that both forms actually mean the same thing in every day usage (though in more formal settings you are still 100% correct bgflores
/fair is fair
//kicking myself for not mocking the 'bagger for his potentially intentional use error too

Who recently settled this debate that would allow contradictory phrases to mean the same thing?

The Oxford Dictionary, for one

Like I said, this is mostly for informal communication, for formal communication the older standards I assume you're supporting still apply.

At least Oxford calls it colloquial slang. I'm good with that.

Same here.  I've come to terms with the fact that it's an acceptable phrase, but I don't think I'll ever lose my contempt for people who can't parse a simple farking sentence and pick the version that makes sense.


I'll admit I won't assume anyone using what used to be the "incorrect" form of the phrase to be especially well educated.
2013-01-07 07:39:39 PM
1 votes:

Ray Vaughn: Crotchrocket Slim: Ray Vaughn: Crotchrocket Slim: bgflores: Wook: /obligatory bump for my friends in the Tea Party. I could care less what a card carrying democrat will ever think of me. Flame on biatches.

Thus displaying how Teaducation has benefited you. If you "could" care less, then you care more than you should. The proper usage is "couldn't care less", thereby signifying that you have no regard for what others think of you.

As much as I like flimsy excuses to flame Teahadists this has debate has been somewhat settled recently in that both forms actually mean the same thing in every day usage (though in more formal settings you are still 100% correct bgflores
/fair is fair
//kicking myself for not mocking the 'bagger for his potentially intentional use error too

Who recently settled this debate that would allow contradictory phrases to mean the same thing?

The Oxford Dictionary, for one

Like I said, this is mostly for informal communication, for formal communication the older standards I assume you're supporting still apply.

At least Oxford calls it colloquial slang. I'm good with that.


Same here.  I've come to terms with the fact that it's an acceptable phrase, but I don't think I'll ever lose my contempt for people who can't parse a simple farking sentence and pick the version that makes sense.
2013-01-07 06:09:47 PM
1 votes:
www.troll.me
2013-01-07 06:04:29 PM
1 votes:
Not tea party. In fact, if they included, "Let charter schools fend for themselves financially" then it would be an great report. There should be as many charter schools as people want, but not at the expense the public schools systems dollar.

The school unions are awful (not all unions).

Seniority based lay offs are Rhee Rhee.
2013-01-07 06:00:50 PM
1 votes:

mgshamster: One of the things they want to get rid of is a pay increase for having a master's degree or for continuing education. Wow.


Is a MS useful in teaching?  My engineering MS wasn't a total waste of money and time, but it was pretty close.

It's good to reward someone who keeps trying to get better at what they do but at the same time people should probably only put the time into a degree if it's actually going to help.
2013-01-07 05:54:02 PM
1 votes:
Anyone who calls Michelle Rhee a Tea Partier only tells me that their statements are not to be trusted. Love her or hate her, you'd have to be ignorant or lying to suggest she has anything to do with the Tea Party.

So yeah, I think I'll believe the governor on this one and not the president of the teachers union.
2013-01-07 05:54:00 PM
1 votes:
Subby, You forgot the E in Potatoe
2013-01-07 05:51:12 PM
1 votes:
Looking at their methodology, a school system operating effectively has nothing to do with whether students actually learn anything. It's all about limiting the power of unions and cutting the cost of public education by funneling money to the private sector. Link
2013-01-07 05:47:45 PM
1 votes:

Holocaust Agnostic: Having gone to a Louisiana public high-school, I'm giving this study the side eyes.


Hey, me too. Except I went to the "special school" and didn't have to go to the regular school with all the retards. I saw what they were doing and it was scary.
2013-01-07 05:41:33 PM
1 votes:

mgshamster: ongbok: I find it funny that NH gets a GPA of .77 for elevating teaching in this system and LA gets a GPA of 3.77 even though LA is 47 in math and 49 in reading and NH is ranked 6th in both. This tells me that NH is doing more to elevate teaching than LA. Or if you want to compare LA to a state with a comparable sized population look at IL. IL ranked 27 in both reading and math and only received a 1.36.

That's because this evaluation isn't about student performance.  It's about spending less money and creating greater competition.

/At least, that's from what I can tell so far.


So to hell with student performance, lets not try to emulate the places that are doing good, lets just spend less and create more competition (whatever that means in teaching).
2013-01-07 05:36:02 PM
1 votes:
Taught Enough Already
2013-01-07 05:24:01 PM
1 votes:
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2013-01-07 05:23:30 PM
1 votes:

idsfa: mgshamster:
There are three primary categories:
1) Elevate Teaching
2) Empower Parents
3) Spend Wisely & Govern Well

Plus an "Overall" category that combines the scores to give the map above.

Suspiciously missing: student academic achievement


Nah, why would you involve STUDENTS in evaluation of a school? Crazy person. It's way more important whether the school pays a pension or 401k.
2013-01-07 05:16:52 PM
1 votes:

Wook: /obligatory bump for my friends in the Tea Party. I could care less what a card carrying democrat will ever think of me. Flame on biatches.


BUMPS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY.

/unless your Fark is way different than mine.  In which case, oops.
2013-01-07 05:13:06 PM
1 votes:

Wook: /obligatory bump for my friends in the Tea Party. I could care less what a card carrying democrat will ever think of me. Flame on biatches.


Funny how people with questionable social skills just stop even trying to get along with the rest society at large after decades of trying to fit in and constantly failing.
/you did ask for a flame in your post, just being polite and filling a request
2013-01-07 05:08:09 PM
1 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I don't see any direct or indirect connection with the Tea Party

Maybe I'm missing something?


None. Submittard was just trying to be funny. This is the educational nonprofit founded by former DC school head Rhee. While I'm not saying her criteria are completely arbitrary, they are subjectively in line with her "data good, tenure bad, charter school good" mantra. Without taking into account any data test scores, graduation rates, and how those change over time, this evaluation is pretty suspect.
2013-01-07 05:06:49 PM
1 votes:

Stone Meadow: AirForceVet: FTA: The California-based nonprofit...

Gotdammitsomuch, what is it about my favorite state that attracts so many crazies?

/not really wondering...this place is an equal opportunity attractor

gorillafilmmagazineblog.files.wordpress.com
"Be careful, California! You're supposed to be the crazy state, the out there, the wild ones, you know?"

Mission accomplished.
2013-01-07 05:04:17 PM
1 votes:
The report recommends that Maine move away from giving teachers pensions and instead gravitate toward a 401k program.

And that will improve little Timmy's test scores?

/Education is an industry.
2013-01-07 05:01:32 PM
1 votes:
2013-01-07 04:59:39 PM
1 votes:

AirForceVet: FTA: The California-based nonprofit was founded by Michelle Rhee, who has previously served as chancellor of the public schools in Washington, DC and is criticized as someone who is anti-union.

The report recommends that Maine move away from giving teachers pensions and instead gravitate toward a 401k program.

Why is a report evaluating how well a public education system is teaching the children suggesting a 401k plan rather than a pension plan for the teachers?

Methinks this nonprofit does have a hidden agenda or more.


Even more scary is that the governor of Maine basically praised and agreed with the report. I'd be furious if I was a voter in that state.
2013-01-07 04:59:06 PM
1 votes:
The schools were ranked based on students' ability to erect and set fire to a wooden cross.
2013-01-07 04:57:42 PM
1 votes:
HERP FOR THE DERP KING
2013-01-07 04:54:39 PM
1 votes:
/obligatory bump for my friends in the Tea Party. I could care less what a card carrying democrat will ever think of me. Flame on biatches.
2013-01-07 04:50:07 PM
1 votes:
Alabama schools come in 3rd?
2013-01-07 03:06:30 PM
1 votes:
didn't louisiana just tell the creationists to fark off recently?
 
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