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(Scientific American)   Finally, I have a safe place to store my 67TB of personal anime for the next 300 million years   (scientificamerican.com) divider line 53
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2013-01-07 12:29:07 PM  
Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!

Now my Asian Porn folder is right around that number.
 
2013-01-07 12:47:59 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!

Now my Asian Porn folder is right around that number.


He did say "personal" anime.  Also, is anyone else thinking that this is sort of like many of the crystal memory devices popular in sci-fi?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-07 12:59:10 PM  
This reminds me of the Vernor Vinge novel Marooned in Realtime where there is an occasional need to leave an indestructible message for people millions of years in the future.

But note that it's only CD density, roughly a gigabyte per palm-sized object.
 
2013-01-07 02:03:25 PM  
lfbn?
 
2013-01-07 02:08:24 PM  
Subby's mom's vagina?
 
2013-01-07 02:59:40 PM  
I bet Superman's glad Jor-El sent all that "knowledge" with him to Earth.
 
2013-01-07 03:09:25 PM  
Subby forgot the word "porn" after anime in his headline.
 
2013-01-07 03:11:04 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!

Now my Asian Porn folder is right around that number.


I call my folder of similar size "Volume I".
 
2013-01-07 03:14:21 PM  

UberDave: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!

Now my Asian Porn folder is right around that number.

I call my folder of similar size "Volume I".


That is better than some website I saw a few years ago... I wish I would have saved the screen shot from the site, but, it was a pretty straight forward website trying to teach you how to do something fairly trivial with  directories in file manager.  Pretty uninteresting... other than the directory in his tree on the screenshot called "teens".
 
2013-01-07 03:55:15 PM  
FTFA: Hitachi recently announced that it has developed a medium that can outlast not only this old-school format but also CDs, DVDs, hard drives and MP3s.

Very timely article! I was just considering switching my data archives over from CDs to MP3s.  I think I'll hold off on that now.
 
2013-01-07 03:56:13 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!


I have around 80TB of various forms of video sitting around my apartment and obtaining more is something that only consumes about 20 minutes of my average day so I'm going to go ahead and say yes.
 
2013-01-07 03:59:38 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Jor El is amused you quaint humans finally got a hold of this tech.
 
2013-01-07 04:00:09 PM  
This is great news for Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged.
 
2013-01-07 04:01:54 PM  

likefunbutnot: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!

I have around 80TB of various forms of video sitting around my apartment and obtaining more is something that only consumes about 20 minutes of my average day so I'm going to go ahead and say yes.


Great scott!
 
2013-01-07 04:02:50 PM  
FTA: The medium has a storage density slightly better than that of a CD

You'll need quite a few of those to store 67TB. Also:

FTA: It is waterproof and resistant to chemicals and weathering, and it was undamaged when exposed to 1,000-degree heat for two hours in a test.

How does it handle against a Zat? Cause those things are always taking out those control crystals.
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-07 04:07:14 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-07 04:08:17 PM  
Jor El is amused you quaint humans finally got a hold of this tech.

Why does Jor El have an "S" on his chest? Is it for Superdad? Couldn't Clark just have gotten him a "worlds greatest dad" coffee mug?
 
2013-01-07 04:10:54 PM  
"Wow man, you created a life-size replica of Superman's Fortress of Solitude!"

"Replica? No, you misunderstand, this is my porn collection."
 
2013-01-07 04:12:15 PM  

likefunbutnot: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!

I have around 80TB of various forms of video sitting around my apartment and obtaining more is something that only consumes about 20 minutes of my average day so I'm going to go ahead and say yes.


See, that shiat i sjust hoarding. You will never...EVER... watch that many shows of anything.
 
2013-01-07 04:14:19 PM  
Meh.

Lemme know when they have a Rewritable version.
 
2013-01-07 04:16:53 PM  

NotARocketScientist: Jor El is amused you quaint humans finally got a hold of this tech.

Why does Jor El have an "S" on his chest? Is it for Superdad? Couldn't Clark just have gotten him a "worlds greatest dad" coffee mug?


Think of it as a family crest.
 
2013-01-07 04:21:49 PM  

fuhfuhfuh: "Wow man, you created a life-size replica of Superman's Fortress of Solitude!"

"Replica? No, you misunderstand, this is my porn collection."


If the laser can burn the dots in a formation that makes the data look like the porn star in question, your porn can be both data, art, and organization in one boobified package.
 
2013-01-07 04:22:04 PM  

SurfaceTension: Subby's mom's vagina?


That's not a safe haven, even if you are wearing a HAZ-MAT suit.
 
2013-01-07 04:29:20 PM  
genophoria.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-07 04:44:22 PM  

Maul555: [genophoria.files.wordpress.com image 500x313]


'Xactly...
 
2013-01-07 04:48:48 PM  

PsyLord: FTA: The medium has a storage density slightly better than that of a CD

You'll need quite a few of those to store 67TB. Also:


If I'm mathing things out correctly -which, given me, is quite possibly not the case- you could do it with three crystals, each one about the size of a refrigerator. Not the sort of thing you could slip in your pocket, but if you had a big vault to keep it in, that might be worth considering.

If they want the dots to be read with an optical microscope (which is probably not the worst of ideas), then I don't see density improving very much.
 
2013-01-07 04:56:33 PM  

NotARocketScientist: Jor El is amused you quaint humans finally got a hold of this tech.

Why does Jor El have an "S" on his chest? Is it for Superdad? Couldn't Clark just have gotten him a "worlds greatest dad" coffee mug?


It's not an S. It's the LL (The Els) in Kryptonian. It also means hope.
And it's funny, since it forebode the importance of people named LL in Superman's life. Lana Lang, Lex Luthor, Lois Lane, Lori Lemaris, Lupe Leocadio, etc.
 
2013-01-07 05:05:06 PM  
Would there be separate recommendations for storage options depending on porn vs non-porn needs?
 
2013-01-07 05:06:52 PM  

adrift1827: FTFA: Hitachi recently announced that it has developed a medium that can outlast not only this old-school format but also CDs, DVDs, hard drives and MP3s.

Very timely article! I was just considering switching my data archives over from CDs to MP3s.  I think I'll hold off on that now.


Came for this, leaving satisfied.

/One of these things is unlike the rest.
 
2013-01-07 05:07:28 PM  
Hitachi recently announced that it has developed a medium that can outlast not only this old-school format but also CDs, DVDs, hard drives and MP3s.

One of these things is not like the other...
 
2013-01-07 06:37:29 PM  
FTFA "Many quartz-based rocks from that time are now sand on our beaches-how would this quartz medium fare any differently?"

...and many are not. That is some in-depth "expert commentary" Ethan Miller, and not at all biased given sabbatical spent working at a flash storage startup.

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2013-01-07 06:51:20 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: See, that shiat i sjust hoarding. You will never...EVER... watch that many shows of anything.


The average American watches something like 35-40 hours of TV (and recorded movies/etc.) per week. At 1.2 GB per hour (well under the bitrate of a DVD) 67 TB is like 6.5 years of content. So that's only about 30 years of content, assuming viewing habits were consistent among live TV viewers and stored-content viewers.

At higher bitrates it's even less content; Blu-ray has a peak rate of about 18 GB/hour, making 67 TB only 0.4 years of content, which the average person would go through in about 2 years.

So it's a lot of content, but it's not as absurd as you might think. It's also possible that he's sharing content with other users (either in his home or over the tubes), which could reduce those numbers even further. Also note that while there's some effort involved in continuing to store old data, there's also effort involved in curating it to remove only the things you want to trash; so long as it's less work to add new disks than to manage the removal process it may well be the most efficient choice to "hoard".
 
2013-01-07 07:26:28 PM  

NotARocketScientist: Jor El is amused you quaint humans finally got a hold of this tech.

Why does Jor El have an "S" on his chest? Is it for Superdad? Couldn't Clark just have gotten him a "worlds greatest dad" coffee mug?


The S doesn't stand for Superman, dumbass
 
2013-01-07 07:54:42 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: See, that shiat i sjust hoarding. You will never...EVER... watch that many shows of anything.


Just like anything else, it's a hobby. My hobby costs about $25 a month in electricity and about $100 for various related services and has some annual hardware costs that probably work out to a couple thousand dollars a year.

profplump: curating


The genesis of this was actually a project I worked on in college to sort media content, either from automated internet searches or from hints that I could easily provide as I obtained the content.
 
2013-01-07 08:57:59 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!


For some damn reason a lot of it is encoded at 1080 HD nowadays.

Because that really makes the 15fps animation "pop", I guess. I can't see the difference between 1080 and 720 and 480 other than file size.

/er, I mean, this is conjecture
 
2013-01-07 09:03:34 PM  

Mister Peejay: For some damn reason a lot of it is encoded at 1080 HD nowadays.


Depends a lot on the quality of the animation. Fantasia 2000 has a crap-ton more detail in the BD release than the plain old DVD in at least some of its sequences. 1080p Robotech? Not so much.
 
2013-01-07 09:05:49 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: likefunbutnot: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Is there even 67TB of anime out there?!

I have around 80TB of various forms of video sitting around my apartment and obtaining more is something that only consumes about 20 minutes of my average day so I'm going to go ahead and say yes.

See, that shiat i sjust hoarding. You will never...EVER... watch that many shows of anything.


I dunno. I'm up to 1TB of video on my computer and I've not only watched it all, I've "watched" a lot of it multiple times, since a lot of it is 720 HD video I recorded on my helmet cam and then edited down into manageable chunks to throw on YouTube.

OTOH, looking at my DVD rack, there are 75-80 DVDs. If those are on average only 75% full, then that's very roughly 225ish gigabytes of data...
 
2013-01-07 09:32:02 PM  
That is a lot of porn.
 
2013-01-07 09:45:48 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: That is a lot of porn.


Thanks you...I larfed.
 
2013-01-07 10:01:49 PM  
Beginners.

www.uploadimages4free.com
 
2013-01-07 10:11:10 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
Really no one has posted this yet? For shame Fark.
 
2013-01-07 10:21:50 PM  

HelloImNotHome: [i0.kym-cdn.com image 538x424]
Really no one has posted this yet? For shame Fark.


What does Kevin Macdonald have to do with any of this?
 
2013-01-07 10:27:18 PM  
So I won't have to get the White Album just one more time???

/just make sure you have a backup in a secure-flame resistant safe...maybe a different grid too while you're at it.
 
2013-01-08 12:15:48 AM  
...but also CDs, DVDs, hard drives and MP3s.

One of these things is not like the other one.
 
2013-01-08 01:03:33 PM  
Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again. And a copy of Urotsukidoji - Legend of the Overfiend.
 
2013-01-08 01:15:15 PM  
I do have some "personal" stuff I would like to keep on a external drive, any recommendations on a nice low-cost model for beginners?
 
2013-01-08 01:44:10 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: I do have some "personal" stuff I would like to keep on a external drive, any recommendations on a nice low-cost model for beginners?


Plain old USB-based hard drives generally suck for a couple reasons:
1. The ones that need an external transformer almost always use a deeply shiatty one that will probably overheat or otherwise blow out and take your drive with it.
2. Some manufacturers (WD) have taken to manufacturing USB drives with a direct USB interface and no provision for a standard SATA connection, which blows.
3. 3.5" hard drives REALLY aren't made to be moved around a whole lot, which is something that some people think they should be able to do with an external drive. If you have any expectation of your external drive actually being portable, use a 2.5" (notebook size) drive.
3a. 2.5" drives really aren't manufactured for high capacity.
4. "Green" low-RPM drives are frequently used in USB enclosures. I've found those drives to be substantially less reliable than 7200rpm models.
5. For the love of god if the drive is meant to be used in one of those stupid vertically-oriented enclosures, lay it on its side anyay. No, I don't care what the stand is supposed to do.

Personally I'd suggest getting some kind of cheap NAS enclosure, like a Synology, Buffalo or Netgear, and stick a couple drives in THAT to serve as a data vault. If you absolutely must get something in a 3.5" external, Hitachi/HGST Tourio drives (HGST is now owned by WD, but a distinct product line from WD).

Also please understand that copying data to an external drive doesn't really constitute a proper backup.
 
2013-01-08 02:11:44 PM  

likefunbutnot: Also please understand that copying data to an external drive doesn't really constitute a proper backup.


I just bought a 32GB thumb drive to make a backup of My Documents. How stable are they?
 
2013-01-08 03:20:16 PM  

Stone Meadow: likefunbutnot: Also please understand that copying data to an external drive doesn't really constitute a proper backup.

I just bought a 32GB thumb drive to make a backup of My Documents. How stable are they?


Flash drives of all sorts fail without warning and zero possibilty of recovery. Having an extra copy of stuff is a good idea as an overall recovery strategy, but if you are paranoid about losing irreplacable data, I suggest something like Crashplan.com as a starting point.
 
2013-01-08 03:48:34 PM  

likefunbutnot: Stone Meadow: likefunbutnot: Also please understand that copying data to an external drive doesn't really constitute a proper backup.

I just bought a 32GB thumb drive to make a backup of My Documents. How stable are they?

Flash drives of all sorts fail without warning and zero possibilty of recovery. Having an extra copy of stuff is a good idea as an overall recovery strategy, but if you are paranoid about losing irreplacable data, I suggest something like Crashplan.com as a starting point.


Thanks...tho I'm disappointed to learn that flash drives are so unreliable. My son recommend online storage, as well, tho I'm a cheap bastard and the thought of paying $4/mo sticks in my craw. May need to reevaluate. Another issue is getting my 25GB of data and photos online, plus my emails from back to about '97. My upload is slooooooooooooow.
 
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