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2013-01-07 11:07:00 AM  
If you've ever seen someone who has just hit on the wrong girl with her biker boyfriend in the bar, you would know that many current drunks make unstoppable runners too!  Hell, put three or four big dudes wanting to crush my drunk ass on my tail and watch me do a three minute mile.
 
2013-01-07 11:15:38 AM  
This is very true, when I got back from a wild drunk down in Mexico, I couldn't stop my runs . . .
 
2013-01-07 11:23:24 AM  

Ennuipoet: If you've ever seen someone who has just hit on the wrong girl with her biker boyfriend in the bar, you would know that many current drunks make unstoppable runners too!  Hell, put three or four big dudes wanting to crush my drunk ass on my tail and watch me do a three minute mile.


False.

Rummys have no wind.
 
2013-01-07 11:35:27 AM  
Boozy training runs can be fun, but not for distances over 5 or 6 miles. I certainly wouldn't tackle marathon mileage on the sauce...

The truth is marathons/ultras work well for some of us because we are okay being completely alone with ourselves for hours at a time (without fap breaks)... some people can't handle alone time like that without some sort of media stimulation or libation at hand.
 
2013-01-07 11:47:46 AM  
So, replace one addiction with another?
 
2013-01-07 12:14:24 PM  
That article is eerily true...
 
2013-01-07 12:34:46 PM  
Shaking up a belly full of alcohol by a nice jog sounds like a terrible idea.
 
2013-01-07 12:36:25 PM  

Ennuipoet: If you've ever seen someone who has just hit on the wrong girl with her biker boyfriend in the bar, you would know that many current drunks make unstoppable runners too!  Hell, put three or four big dudes wanting to crush my drunk ass on my tail and watch me do a three minute mile.


Was her name Linda Lu?
 
2013-01-07 12:36:25 PM  
Former? I manage both quite well, and my local hash kennel gives me plenty of practice.
 
2013-01-07 12:38:14 PM  
coco ebert: "So, replace one addiction with another?"

Pretty much.
That's part of why AA has the "higher power" tie-in: it provides a default addiction to swap in.
But some dodge organized religion and become a workaholic or seize on exercise or woodworking or whatever.

/ knows a former alcoholic who's now a runner
// getting a kick
 
2013-01-07 12:38:41 PM  
Exercise is always a good idea, but they do tell recovering people to exercise, and do it as much as they want.

To this day, I exercise like a fiend. I'm not a fitness nut, I'm not worried about my weight, I don't eat super-healthy, I don't keep charts about my BMI and my weight and the size of my thighs. But if I didn't exercise every day, I'd probably kill someone, or myself.

So go for a long walk. It feels good.
 
2013-01-07 12:38:42 PM  

coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?


They could at least encourage something useful for the new addiction, like categorizing insects or lichens at a museum.
 
2013-01-07 12:39:20 PM  

Elzar: Boozy training runs can be fun, but not for distances over 5 or 6 miles. I certainly wouldn't tackle marathon mileage on the sauce...

The truth is marathons/ultras work well for some of us because we are okay being completely alone with ourselves for hours at a time (without fap breaks)... some people can't handle alone time like that without some sort of media stimulation or libation at hand.


I don't know, the Bordeaux marathon sounds like a lot of fun.
 
2013-01-07 12:43:41 PM  
There is a group that I did a logo for, Runners in Recovery. You simply replace one habit with another, as coco implied. My good friend who commissioned my firm to do the logo is a recovering alcoholic who is now a counselor and a mighty running warrior...ran across the Gobi desert or some such nonsense. I like wearing my logo t-shirt, but it embarrasses my wife...I am not sure if it is because of the inference that I might be a recovering alcoholic or the fact that my physique indicates that I am most certainly not a runner. I have considered drinking a beer while wearing it, but was told that would be in poor form.
 
2013-01-07 12:43:53 PM  

Elzar: alone


I love that alone time. I lead a very busy life with a lot of people who enjoy having me in it - that being said my few hours a week out running with my dog is my time, well our time.

thatmutt.com
My little Chocolate Lab / Pit Bull mix loves those 2 - 3 mile runs , any more than that and she just sits down and gives me the "Dad, I'm done with this." look.

She's been my running partner since i stopped abusing myself with fast food, pizza and endless oceans of chemicals (alcohol or otherwise) that was killing me. I'm not a marathoner yet (i'm catching up to my brother...he just finished his first Iron Man) - just a fitness runner who really loves getting out with his puppy for a quiet moment in my head. It's certainly a lot more peaceful in here since i started doing this.
 
2013-01-07 12:45:49 PM  

Expolaris: Elzar: alone

I love that alone time. I lead a very busy life with a lot of people who enjoy having me in it - that being said my few hours a week out running with my dog is my time, well our time.

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My little Chocolate Lab / Pit Bull mix loves those 2 - 3 mile runs , any more than that and she just sits down and gives me the "Dad, I'm done with this." look.

She's been my running partner since i stopped abusing myself with fast food, pizza and endless oceans of chemicals (alcohol or otherwise) that was killing me. I'm not a marathoner yet (i'm catching up to my brother...he just finished his first Iron Man) - just a fitness runner who really loves getting out with his puppy for a quiet moment in my head. It's certainly a lot more peaceful in here since i started doing this.


So.... you're a "dad" with tits
 
2013-01-07 12:47:39 PM  
same for chronic masterbation
 
2013-01-07 12:47:41 PM  

coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?


Yes
 
2013-01-07 12:48:09 PM  

Pinner: Expolaris: Elzar: alone

I love that alone time. I lead a very busy life with a lot of people who enjoy having me in it - that being said my few hours a week out running with my dog is my time, well our time.

[thatmutt.com image 653x393]
My little Chocolate Lab / Pit Bull mix loves those 2 - 3 mile runs , any more than that and she just sits down and gives me the "Dad, I'm done with this." look.

She's been my running partner since i stopped abusing myself with fast food, pizza and endless oceans of chemicals (alcohol or otherwise) that was killing me. I'm not a marathoner yet (i'm catching up to my brother...he just finished his first Iron Man) - just a fitness runner who really loves getting out with his puppy for a quiet moment in my head. It's certainly a lot more peaceful in here since i started doing this.

So.... you're a "dad" with tits


Picture is not of me (probably should have said that) - the dog just kinda looks like mine.
 
2013-01-07 12:48:13 PM  
I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me
 
2013-01-07 12:49:39 PM  

coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?


Yes, essentially. I still drink, but when I'm exercising regularly I have no trouble keeping it under control. When I'm not, well... it's still *mostly* under control. Mostly.
 
2013-01-07 12:50:15 PM  

dickfreckle: I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me


Stay safe and sober (to the extent that you can), dickfreckle.
 
2013-01-07 12:51:08 PM  
Pub crawling is great for the Pecs and Triceps. Glutes, too!
 
2013-01-07 12:51:50 PM  
The Irresponsible Captain: "They could at least encourage something useful for the new addiction, like categorizing insects or lichens at a museum."

Those are things that even sober people get drunk to do.
 
2013-01-07 12:52:12 PM  
we've had drunks with running problems for a long time around here.
 
2013-01-07 12:52:14 PM  

dickfreckle: I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me


Good luck, seriously.
 
2013-01-07 12:54:13 PM  
I drink because I find most people to be unbearable - PARTICULARLY runners.
 
2013-01-07 12:54:46 PM  

dickfreckle: and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort.


What's sad is I don't fall off stools after 1,565 drinks. That's when you know it's time to let a doctor oversee the whole mess.
 
2013-01-07 12:56:11 PM  
It is replacing one addiction with another.

I ran cross-country in High School and quickly became addicted to running and that life style. It seems like a good thing but it was killing me on many levels. Many of my relationships fell apart because I spent more time out running than doing almost anything else.

Thankfully, I was able to slow and eventually stop this horrid addiction through the use of alcohol. I now make it a point to drink when I feel the urge to do any type of exercise....I am a much better person for it.
 
2013-01-07 12:56:30 PM  
Btw, with my "replace one addiction with another", I'm not being judgmental. I'm of the "whatever gets you through the day sober and happy" school.
 
2013-01-07 12:58:56 PM  

codenamewizard: It is replacing one addiction with another.

I ran cross-country in High School and quickly became addicted to running and that life style. It seems like a good thing but it was killing me on many levels. Many of my relationships fell apart because I spent more time out running than doing almost anything else.

Thankfully, I was able to slow and eventually stop this horrid addiction through the use of alcohol. I now make it a point to drink when I feel the urge to do any type of exercise....I am a much better person for it.


Heh.
 
2013-01-07 12:59:14 PM  

coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?


Yeah, those runners. What a bunch of farkin' scumbags, am I right?
 
2013-01-07 01:00:01 PM  
coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?

Yup. People who become alcoholics generally have addictive personalities - they will become addicted to something. AA gets them into God. I think getting them into running is healthier physically, mentally and relationship wise.
 
2013-01-07 01:01:32 PM  

wingding: coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?

Yes


That will Fixx it.
 
2013-01-07 01:07:09 PM  
i3.ytimg.com

i ran to windsor

/probably obscure for regular americans
 
2013-01-07 01:09:09 PM  

coco ebert: dickfreckle: I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me

Stay safe and sober (to the extent that you can), dickfreckle.


Thanks, Coco. Again, I'm a functioning retard and not a drunken menace to the streets - which is what I aim to avoid. But I do wake up and have beers or shots before going about my business. I don't even feel the effects of the drink(s) because that's how far I'm gone - you just wake up and use the addiction to attain a semblance of normalcy. That's when you know you're farked.

 I can't let that devolve into full-on crazy. I am an alcoholic, but I'm not living the rest of my life this way.

Pride. It means something.
 
2013-01-07 01:13:35 PM  

coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?


Exactly. Running>religion.
 
2013-01-07 01:14:39 PM  

coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?


Exactly. Addictive personalities need something. Running works for wankers. Cycling is better on the knees and gives the same endorphin high. Plus cycling can get you to and from work so you save gas as well.
 
2013-01-07 01:14:45 PM  

dickfreckle: coco ebert: dickfreckle: I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me

Stay safe and sober (to the extent that you can), dickfreckle.

Thanks, Coco. Again, I'm a functioning retard and not a drunken menace to the streets - which is what I aim to avoid. But I do wake up and have beers or shots before going about my business. I don't even feel the effects of the drink(s) because that's how far I'm gone - you just wake up and use the addiction to attain a semblance of normalcy. That's when you know you're farked.

 I can't let that devolve into full-on crazy. I am an alcoholic, but I'm not living the rest of my life this way.

Pride. It means something.


rationalrecovery.org
 
2013-01-07 01:19:39 PM  
I was formerly drunk (last night) and running sounds like the last thing I want to do right now.
 
2013-01-07 01:20:08 PM  

dickfreckle: coco ebert: dickfreckle: I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me

Stay safe and sober (to the extent that you can), dickfreckle.

Thanks, Coco. Again, I'm a functioning retard and not a drunken menace to the streets - which is what I aim to avoid. But I do wake up and have beers or shots before going about my business. I don't even feel the effects of the drink(s) because that's how far I'm gone - you just wake up and use the addiction to attain a semblance of normalcy. That's when you know you're farked.

 I can't let that devolve into full-on crazy. I am an alcoholic, but I'm not living the rest of my life this way.

Pride. It means something.


Got a friend at this stage. A 1750 of booze every two-three days, plus a six of beer per day and a bottle of wine per day. Sad. Declines invites to go out. Smokes two packs a day. He's too arrogant to admit he's a completely different person than he used to be.

Good luck! You have taken one huge step toward changing your ways. Admitting your situation. Keep going! All this shiat will be in your rearview mirror soon.
 
2013-01-07 01:21:18 PM  

NotARocketScientist: coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?
Yup. People who become alcoholics generally have addictive personalities - they will become addicted to something. AA gets them into God. I think getting them into running is healthier physically, mentally and relationship wise.


*sigh*. I went to AA for over a year. Probably saved my life. I never "got into God", I never felt pressured to pray, or turn my life over to God, or attend church, or whatever else you non-AA people keep blithering about. Please stop repeating this crap. And how the fark would any of you know, anyway? You are not an addict, you have never been a member of AA, and you don't understand how the simplistic phrases are just a framework to work from--they're not a rule book.

When you're killing yourself with some substance, have no money, you've lost your friends and probably your family, your brain is fried, and you're sick and tired and feel bad all over--AA looks pretty farking good, God or no God.

Or you can just keep repeating this horseshiat, so that maybe some poor drunk who reads Fark will blow his head off instead of going to AA, because he might be exposed to GOD.
 
2013-01-07 01:21:18 PM  

ghare: rationalrecovery.org


wat
 
2013-01-07 01:21:39 PM  
Sometimes I worry about my drinking, then I read something like this and feel fine about drinking half a bottle of rum a few times a month.
 
2013-01-07 01:21:43 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: coco ebert: So, replace one addiction with another?

Exactly. Addictive personalities need something. Running works for wankers. Cycling is better on the knees and gives the same endorphin high. Plus cycling can get you to and from work so you save gas as well.


Running can also get you to and from work, unless you're a pansy-ass cyclist who can't run very far. ;)

Seriously, as a runner this is a weird article. I don't really think I'm addicted to running and I've never been an alcoholic. I guess if you have addictive tendencies you'll end up addicted to something, and if not you probably won't?
 
2013-01-07 01:23:44 PM  

dickfreckle: I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me


Get a doctor to prescribe you naltrexone. Take it an hour before you drink (or, if you're drinking all the time, take it at the same time every day, before the heaviest drinking). Be amazed as your brain unlearns its addiction.
 
2013-01-07 01:25:31 PM  
I need a beer.
 
2013-01-07 01:29:40 PM  

dickfreckle: I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me


try weed
 
2013-01-07 01:29:46 PM  

Pinner: Got a friend at this stage. A 1750 of booze every two-three days, plus a six of beer per day and a bottle of wine per day. Sad. Declines invites to go out. Smokes two packs a day. He's too arrogant to admit he's a completely different person than he used to be.


Thanks, bro or sis. I think your friend drinks slightly more than I do, but it's close, Would you like me to come over and maybe smack him around a bit? Hell, he and I can hold hands on the way to rehab, which is likely because we'll be cuffed together...

/I'm just waiting on a bed, and yes, I will be fine
//The worst, but not the first adversity faced
///now I have to quit Marlboros, which means I'm killing all of you :)
 
2013-01-07 01:32:31 PM  

dickfreckle: coco ebert: dickfreckle: I'm an alcoholic desperately trying to get into a medical detox that has a bed or is affordable - so I'm getting a kick, etc... My city is notorious for booze but can't be arsed to aid those without extremely expensive insurance.

/the trick to this is doing it before rock-bottom forces you to
//am still drinking, and I'm not a fall-off-bar-stool sort. But damn, it has to stop before it kills me

Stay safe and sober (to the extent that you can), dickfreckle.

Thanks, Coco. Again, I'm a functioning retard and not a drunken menace to the streets - which is what I aim to avoid. But I do wake up and have beers or shots before going about my business. I don't even feel the effects of the drink(s) because that's how far I'm gone - you just wake up and use the addiction to attain a semblance of normalcy. That's when you know you're farked.

 I can't let that devolve into full-on crazy. I am an alcoholic, but I'm not living the rest of my life this way.

Pride. It means something.


While I never quite fell to the "wake up and drink" level, I was drinking every night and waking up feeling like crap. By your mid 30s that catches up to you. I started running nearly every day just to get in shape and found that it really does replace drinking. I wasn't going to undo all the work I did running by ingesting 1000 calories of booze and I didn't want to feel like garbage tomorrow when I had to run again, so why drink in the first place? If I opened one beer I was going to keep going till the fridge was empty. I know not everybody drinks like that, but that was what I fell into and couldn't stop.

Best of luck to you.
 
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