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(Opposing Views)   Tired of tedious discipline methods like grounding or time outs? Why not try waterboarding?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 15
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5272 clicks; posted to Main » on 07 Jan 2013 at 12:38 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-01-07 10:05:19 AM
4 votes:
if you are an authoritarian, you'd have a difficult time convicting someone of waterboarding/treating waterboarding as a crime without contradicting your belief that its not a crime when the US government does it to suspected terrorists.
2013-01-07 01:21:43 PM
2 votes:

Evil Mackerel: xria: Weaver95: if you are an authoritarian, you'd have a difficult time convicting someone of waterboarding/treating waterboarding as a crime without contradicting your belief that its not a crime when the US government does it to suspected terrorists.

It's okay when we do it (tm)

Anyone says waterboarding is ok should have to go through the procedure.


i've offered to water board any/all fark independents who defend the practice or who think it's harmless.  nobody's taken me up on it yet.
2013-01-07 01:15:29 PM
2 votes:

xria: Weaver95: if you are an authoritarian, you'd have a difficult time convicting someone of waterboarding/treating waterboarding as a crime without contradicting your belief that its not a crime when the US government does it to suspected terrorists.

It's okay when we do it (tm)


Anyone says waterboarding is ok should have to go through the procedure.
2013-01-07 12:49:42 PM
2 votes:

FightDirector: As the parent of a 2-year old who just poured apple juice into his mother's laptop, I'm fine with a little waterboarding right this moment.


Why? That is not the toddler's fault that's the parents fault.
2013-01-07 12:43:52 PM
2 votes:

Weaver95: if you are an authoritarian, you'd have a difficult time convicting someone of waterboarding/treating waterboarding as a crime without contradicting your belief that its not a crime when the US government does it to suspected terrorists.


You think an authoritarian would have trouble rationalizing the state being allowed to do something citizens aren't?
2013-01-07 02:17:56 PM
1 votes:
When was in the army, I let a few friends water board me. We just wanted to see what it was like.

The hardest part is holding your breath. Once you exhale the first time it becomes impossible to inhale only air after. The water runs into your mouth and nose and you start to panic. By panicking you lose more oxygen and start to suffocate. It's a terrible feeling.

It is definitly torture. The thing is; I don't care if they torture terrorists. Like the guy FTA. Water board the shiat out of him. It's iffy trying to extract info from the enemy this way. But if your only aim is to break and dehumanize the enemy it works perfectly.
My two cents.

/never seen this happen in the field. It was simply a barracks experiment. I don't know anyone who's has actually done it to the enemyeither.
2013-01-07 02:11:46 PM
1 votes:
Waterboarding has got to be the weirdest torture going. The only real danger is a fear induced heart attack. It doesn't look scary in the least when you see it being performed. Yet even if you understand 100% that you're in no physical danger going into it, it still causes a primal "ZOMG I'm gonna die" fear that just can't be reasoned with. It's the kind of torture that you can watch and think "I'd be able to withstand that indefinitely" yet 30 seconds into it and you'll be crying like a schoolgirl looking at her first cock. Everyone I've ever talked to who has gone through it has pretty much said the same thing. You go into it thinking "how can this even be torture" and leave it thinking "I'd suck a homeless guy's dick if it would make it stop".

Its one of those things part of you wants to try just to see how bad it can possibly be... the waterboarding that is, not the sucking a homeless guy's dick.
2013-01-07 01:56:42 PM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: Slaves2Darkness: From the article:

Waterboarding was repeatedly used by the Bush administration on terrorist suspects, but was not a crime when performed by the U.S. government.

LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!

Water-boarding is an international war crime and the US has previously persecuted people for such actions. Just because the Repulitards have a Jesus fantasy of torturing Muslims and no law enforcement agency in the US had the balls to arrest George Bush, Dick Chaney, Donald Rumsfield, or Condelisa Rice does not mean it is not a crime and illegal.

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I bet you get a woody when Obama does it though.


Umm...when has Obama done it? Last I heard he outlawed the use of "Alternative Interrogation" techniques. So, please show me where anyone in the Obama administration had done that, cite your farking source you poo flinging monkey.
2013-01-07 01:54:39 PM
1 votes:

DeathCipris: Void_Beavis: DeathCipris: This is sad. I mean, I knew things were bad here in 'Murica, but this is seriously out of hand. At the risk of sounding like a teatard, how much more bullshiat are we going to take before we actually use the ohh-so-many guns we have here and smite someone that deserves it for a change?

Because in neo con logic, a bunch of first graders had it coming to them because Jesus is pissed at us... Or something like that.

I know you are being tongue-in-cheek there, but I am seriously thinking about leaving this festering shiathole before it completely implodes on itself. The level of religious fervor, backwards conservatives, and the stance that MY elected government takes on some of these issues is downright appalling. I am not so blind as to not notice the level of corporate infiltration into our government, the corruption at the highest echelons of leadership, and the lack of compassion the government has for anyone but the top 1%. Now this? The government can abduct and torture people without any sort of grounds other than an executive designation as an "enemy combatant"? How is this not transforming into a dictatorship? This isn't partisan either and both sides have blood or rather water on their hands.
This is not the usual "wahh" bullshiat after an election either. Hell, I wanted Obama back in office. But this is just too much for me...


Lets not mention the ones who are anti-abortion and anti-contraceptive and yet support the proliferation of massive firearms without restriction and the death penalty.

How is that for a "late-term" abortion? Shooting a first grader in the face with an assault rifle.

I hear you dude.
2013-01-07 01:34:52 PM
1 votes:
Childless: when I have kids they will be potty trained by 4 months, talking by 6 months and reading Proust by 9. I will never hit or yell, I will explain why something is right or wrong.

Same person with a two year old: water boarding has its place
2013-01-07 01:28:06 PM
1 votes:

FightDirector: As the parent of a 2-year old who just poured apple juice into his mother's laptop, I'm fine with a little waterboarding right this moment.


I'm assuming the waterboarding is for whomever allowed the 2-year old near a laptop with a cup of apple juice.

Why didn't the cup have a lid? Why isn't it 'spill proof' or a sippy cup? These take more effort on kiddo's part to make messes.

Two year olds just love to splash! My niece will deliberately dribble chocolate milk out of her mouth and down the front of her clothes because her parents will then give her a bath essentially rewarding her behavior. She's done that twice at my house. Both times I wiped her off with a cold damp wash cloth until she wasn't sticky and put her in a spare set of clothes. I made the punishment fit the crime. The cold washcloth was extremely disappointing for her when she was expecting a warm bath.
2013-01-07 01:25:21 PM
1 votes:

FightDirector: As the parent of a 2-year old who just poured apple juice into his mother's laptop, I'm fine with a little waterboarding right this moment.


As someone who let a 2 year old go near a laptop with a glass of juice, how the fark did you even manage to figure out how to fark?

/weapons grade stupidity.
2013-01-07 01:12:18 PM
1 votes:
Ahem....

Frat initiation ritual.

That's why Bush never thought it was torture.
2013-01-07 01:02:39 PM
1 votes:
From the article:

Waterboarding was repeatedly used by the Bush administration on terrorist suspects, but was not a crime when performed by the U.S. government.

LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!

Water-boarding is an international war crime and the US has previously persecuted people for such actions. Just because the Repulitards have a Jesus fantasy of torturing Muslims and no law enforcement agency in the US had the balls to arrest George Bush, Dick Chaney, Donald Rumsfield, or Condelisa Rice does not mean it is not a crime and illegal.
2013-01-07 10:10:21 AM
1 votes:
Um...why, presumably?  What was the motive?  Such fine reporting.
 
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