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2013-01-07 09:14:19 AM
He refers to Apple competitors like Google and Microsoft as "villains" and he wonders why people don't take him seriously.
 
2013-01-07 09:16:31 AM
Any hardware running Android is broken by definition, giving you no chance of having a full product experience and no ability to take full advantage of any cool features your hardware does have. That makes every Samsung smartphone and tablet an inadvisable buy, even before you get into the misleading specs on devices like the Galaxy S III which are designed to sound like they're on par with the iPhone but are actually far behind and second rate despite having the same price tag as an iPhone. Android is for, in a word, suckers.

Okay, this guy has to be trolling.
 
2013-01-07 09:23:11 AM
Of course Amazon wanted to win as well, so it stuffed a fragment of the Android software onto cheap hardware which can't run it right, and the resulting "Kindle Fire" is quite possibly the worst major tech product ever made.

Yeah, people simply loathe their Kindle Fires.
 
2013-01-07 09:23:14 AM
Rrriiiight.
 
2013-01-07 09:24:05 AM
Google and Samsung are "rogue companies"? This guy writes complete gibberish.
 
2013-01-07 09:24:38 AM

RexTalionis: Any hardware running Android is broken by definition, giving you no chance of having a full product experience and no ability to take full advantage of any cool features your hardware does have. That makes every Samsung smartphone and tablet an inadvisable buy, even before you get into the misleading specs on devices like the Galaxy S III which are designed to sound like they're on par with the iPhone but are actually far behind and second rate despite having the same price tag as an iPhone. Android is for, in a word, suckers.

Okay, this guy has to be trolling.


Yeah I thought that the before the first ad break, I actually started thinking, is this from the onion?

Android is more stable than iOS at this time but of course if you put an new os on an old device then its not going to perform as well, just like my old iPhone 3G ran like shiat after a few updates when the 4 came out.

Trolly writer does a good job, he can expect a flood of emails calling out his apple worship, especially since all the devices people are looking forward to buying are not apples.
 
2013-01-07 09:26:20 AM
Electronic brand association has replaced for many the touchstone of identity that was once provided by nationality, race, or religion.

It's a whacky prediction, but it isn't impossible that in the future there will be hate crimes perpetrated not on the basis of sexuality, race, or religion - but instead on loyalty to a particular brand.
 
2013-01-07 09:26:25 AM
Also:

But the truth is you only think you're happy with Android because you've never used a legitimate smartphone like the iPhone and you don't know what the experience is supposed to be, and if I'm going to be of any value to you then it's going to be through telling you the truth about tech whether it's what you want to hear in the moment or not. The odds are you'll thank me in the end, after you've ultimately figured out what I've already spent years learning the hard way, and it's okay if you're mad at me in the mean time.

I ditched iphone and the entire Apple suite for Android, and I couldn't be happier.

But he laid out at the beginning of the article that he isn't an Apple propagandist, so I guess this is legit.
 
2013-01-07 09:28:48 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Also:

But the truth is you only think you're happy with Android because you've never used a legitimate smartphone like the iPhone and you don't know what the experience is supposed to be, and if I'm going to be of any value to you then it's going to be through telling you the truth about tech whether it's what you want to hear in the moment or not. The odds are you'll thank me in the end, after you've ultimately figured out what I've already spent years learning the hard way, and it's okay if you're mad at me in the mean time.

I ditched iphone and the entire Apple suite for Android, and I couldn't be happier.

But he laid out at the beginning of the article that he isn't an Apple propagandist, so I guess this is legit.


I like how he makes the headline claim that the only products worth recommending in 2013 are Apple's... Which is interesting, seeing as how Apple hasn't announced any products for 2013.
 
2013-01-07 09:30:38 AM
i could not care less about Apple because Linux and Open Source software is available. without Open Source, then and only then would i be interested in Apple.

Apple is alot better than Windblows, but not as good as Linux/Open Source.
 
2013-01-07 09:33:24 AM
FTA: Any hardware running Android is broken by definition, giving you no chance of having a full product experience and no ability to take full advantage of any cool features your hardware does have.


If you ask the Apple people, a "full smartphone experience" apparently resorts to dozens or hundreds of stupid hacks and kludgy workarounds because human beings are just way too stupid to be trusted with an exposed filesystem. Every time I have to figure out how to do something non-obvious with an ithing, the instructions start "Get a Dropbox account..."
 
2013-01-07 09:33:28 AM

RexTalionis: I like how he makes the headline claim that the only products worth recommending in 2013 are Apple's... Which is interesting, seeing as how Apple hasn't announced any products for 2013.


Well there will be an iPhone, an iPad, iPod. Nobody knows what they will be like or do, but anybody can predict they'll be released so they must be good.

With Steve Jobs dead, who at Apple is the author fellating? Because he has remarkable deep throat skills.
 
2013-01-07 09:33:48 AM
Hey Bill, the Linux based Android runs on 72% of the world's smartphones. so tell me again how it isn't working out?


just thought you might want to be updated.
 
2013-01-07 09:34:55 AM

RexTalionis: He refers to Apple competitors like Google and Microsoft as "villains" and he wonders why people don't take him seriously.



he apparently hasn't had a pony lick his pole in quite a while.
 
2013-01-07 09:36:15 AM
Who the hell IS this idiot?
 
2013-01-07 09:36:15 AM
 
2013-01-07 09:36:23 AM

RexTalionis: Any hardware running Android is broken by definition, giving you no chance of having a full product experience and no ability to take full advantage of any cool features your hardware does have. That makes every Samsung smartphone and tablet an inadvisable buy, even before you get into the misleading specs on devices like the Galaxy S III which are designed to sound like they're on par with the iPhone but are actually far behind and second rate despite having the same price tag as an iPhone. Android is for, in a word, suckers.

Okay, this guy has to be trolling.



72% of the world's smart phones run Android. this dude is in denial big time.
 
2013-01-07 09:37:24 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Google and Samsung are "rogue companies"? This guy writes complete gibberish.



'rogue' is his definition of leaders in their industries.
 
2013-01-07 09:37:34 AM
ugh, I am awful at html tagging recently!
Also not making typos while i furiously type on the Internet.
 
2013-01-07 09:37:44 AM
I have a friend that admits he has an irrational hate of Apple. At least he can admit it.
 
2013-01-07 09:38:30 AM

Linux_Yes: Hey Bill, the Linux based Android runs on 72% of the world's smartphones. so tell me again how it isn't working out?


just thought you might want to be updated.


Also, shiatty pop music sells better than whatever you listen to. That makes it better.
 
2013-01-07 09:38:45 AM

narkor: It's a whacky prediction, but it isn't impossible that in the future there will be hate crimes perpetrated not on the basis of sexuality, race, or religion - but instead on loyalty to a particular brand.


I'm pretty sure Cory Doctorow, Warren Ellis and/or Charles Stross is already working on some kind of science fiction with precisely that as its central point.
 
2013-01-07 09:39:01 AM

s2s2s2: I have a friend that admits he has an irrational hate of Apple. At least he can admit it.


I don't have an irrational hate of Apple. I've got an iPhone hooked to my belt right now. I just see how far iPhones have fallen behind to Android Jelly Bean since the iPhone's UI is essentially locked in 2007.
 
2013-01-07 09:40:01 AM
Funny comedy piece, thanks Subby!
 
2013-01-07 09:40:31 AM
That makes every Samsung smartphone and tablet an inadvisable buy, even before you get into the misleading specs on devices like the Galaxy S III which are designed to sound like they're on par with the iPhone but are actually far behind and second rate despite having the same price tag as an iPhone.

As someone who replaced an iPhone4 with a GS III, I simply have to call bullshiat. But it won't do any good...

You can't reason with people who are so deeply invested in their brand loyalty. It's a curious, almost cult-like mentality. I used to joke that rabid fans took one too many sips of the kool-aid but it's deeper than that. It's as if the brand becomes a part of their personal identity. Whether they're tech geeks arguing about Apple or Linux or, back in the day, Amigas. Or Chevy vs Ford fans. (Or even Democrats vs Republicans)...It's the same mindset.

I don't get it.
 
2013-01-07 09:41:07 AM

narkor: Electronic brand association has replaced for many the touchstone of identity that was once provided by nationality, race, or religion.

It's a whacky prediction, but it isn't impossible that in the future there will be hate crimes perpetrated not on the basis of sexuality, race, or religion - but instead on loyalty to a particular brand.


You are way behind the curve on this. This is more like how persons are identified by their clothing. And yes, there are people being attacked for not wearing the right brand of clothing.
 
2013-01-07 09:45:57 AM

s2s2s2: I have a friend that admits he has an irrational hate of Apple. At least he can admit it.


Now if apple people could admit that they just have an irrational hatred for all things non-apple, everyone else sees it but nobody admits it. I have a couple of acquaintances who will invariably say "yeah but its no Mac, iphone, iPod, etc...." no matter what the device is or what market its supposed to fill.
 
2013-01-07 09:51:55 AM

RexTalionis: I don't have an irrational hate of Apple. I've got an iPhone hooked to my belt right now. I just see how far iPhones have fallen behind to Android Jelly Bean since the iPhone's UI is essentially locked in 2007.


Do I know you? I mean, my default setting for all farkers IS "Friend", but ok. I have no problem with your problems with iPhone.

steamingpile: Now if apple people could admit that they just have an irrational hatred for all things non-apple


A lot of them do. I don't hate non-apple stuff, and I find android fanbois' hate far more entertaining than the Apple fanbois' hate.
 
2013-01-07 09:55:33 AM

steamingpile: I have a couple of acquaintances who will invariably say "yeah but its no Mac, iphone, iPod, etc...." no matter what the device is or what market its supposed to fill.


The standard line is more like "Android applications are not as mature as the iOS versions." The people who say things like that invariably cannot explain what it means.
 
2013-01-07 09:56:02 AM

arcas: You can't reason with people who are so deeply invested in their brand loyalty. It's a curious, almost cult-like mentality.


FTFY
 
2013-01-07 09:59:18 AM

likefunbutnot: The standard line is more like "Android applications are not as mature as the iOS versions." The people who say things like that invariably cannot explain what it means.


All I ever get from the complaints about iOS is lack of customizability. Many people don't care. Works is works, no matter if it is "stuck in 2007".

"But I can change my font!"

:I
 
2013-01-07 10:00:04 AM
Every company has flaws.

Apple ("You don't need that."):
Hiding complexity to the point where it actually hinders capability (see the new Airport utility).
Developing ecosystems on IOS that don't integrate with OSX (podcasts, ibooks);

Google ("Oooo, shiny!"):
Releasing interesting technology without really refining the product.
Lack of focus on continuing to develop products after the initial release.

Microsoft ("Anyone know what our other teams are doing? No?"):
Products do not play well together.
Killing products with little or no warning (Silverlight, Zune, Kin)

Pick your poison.
 
2013-01-07 10:00:27 AM

Linux_Yes: i could not care less about Apple because Linux and Open Source software is available. without Open Source, then and only then would i be interested in Apple.

Apple is alot better than Windblows, but not as good as Linux/Open Source.


Windows is better than MacOS, which is better than Linux.

Look, I like Linux, I use Linux, but there are just too many stupid oversights in Linux for me to want to use it for anything besides an Apache server (which is is great at).

And MacOS is fine, but Apple refuses to follow some pretty obvious interface conventions, and that drives me nuts. And the software selections sucks, in my opinion.

Windows has it's problems, but it does everything, and does it pretty well. It's the "jack of all trades" operating system.
 
2013-01-07 10:02:23 AM

s2s2s2: Works is works


weknowmemes.com
 
2013-01-07 10:04:10 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-07 10:04:46 AM

RexTalionis: s2s2s2: Works is works

[weknowmemes.com image 650x500]


That's from 2007?
 
2013-01-07 10:05:22 AM

s2s2s2: RexTalionis: s2s2s2: Works is works

[weknowmemes.com image 650x500]

That's from 2007?


No, that's in reference to "Works is works".
 
2013-01-07 10:08:52 AM

s2s2s2: All I ever get from the complaints about iOS is lack of customizability.


No file system access. Application sandboxing. No widget support. Static icons. Lack of customizable input options. Single application vendor with strongly paternalistic tendencies. shiatty development process. Extremely limited interaction with proper personal computers. Development and end user culture that discourages giving away software in favor of nickle-and-dime costs for extremely simple functionality.

Do I need to go on?
 
2013-01-07 10:10:29 AM

s2s2s2: likefunbutnot: The standard line is more like "Android applications are not as mature as the iOS versions." The people who say things like that invariably cannot explain what it means.

All I ever get from the complaints about iOS is lack of customizability. Many people don't care. Works is works, no matter if it is "stuck in 2007".

"But I can change my font!"

:I


For me it's more "but I can change my everything". I found the iphone to be a great intro to smart phones, but after a while it felt constricting.
 
2013-01-07 10:10:29 AM

RexTalionis: No, that's in reference to "Works is works".


Not like it's a major security flaw, or causes you to send a text to a completely wrong number.

I'll admit, the maps thing is pretty terrible, but let me know when Apple catches up to Android in total number of horrible performance/security flaws.
 
2013-01-07 10:11:28 AM
When did "Bingethinker" start writing for Beatweek?
 
2013-01-07 10:12:01 AM

likefunbutnot: Do I need to go on?


I'm going to guess you do.

HotWingConspiracy: For me it's more "but I can change my everything". I found the iphone to be a great intro to smart phones, but after a while it felt constricting.


ok.
 
2013-01-07 10:12:54 AM

s2s2s2: Linux_Yes: Hey Bill, the Linux based Android runs on 72% of the world's smartphones. so tell me again how it isn't working out?


just thought you might want to be updated.

Also, shiatty pop music sells better than whatever you listen to. That makes it better.



the only difference is that listening to sh*tty pop music doessn't require you to do anything or accomplish anything. using Android does.

Linux and Open Source is the Future. get used to it.
 
2013-01-07 10:13:19 AM

s2s2s2: RexTalionis: I don't have an irrational hate of Apple. I've got an iPhone hooked to my belt right now. I just see how far iPhones have fallen behind to Android Jelly Bean since the iPhone's UI is essentially locked in 2007.

Do I know you? I mean, my default setting for all farkers IS "Friend", but ok. I have no problem with your problems with iPhone.

steamingpile: Now if apple people could admit that they just have an irrational hatred for all things non-apple

A lot of them do. I don't hate non-apple stuff, and I find android fanbois' hate far more entertaining than the Apple fanbois' hate.


You're insane, apple people always have to say how superior an apple products are, to even say its the reverse is living with your head up Jobs decomposing ass.
 
2013-01-07 10:14:03 AM

realmolo: Linux_Yes



and Master of none.
 
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2013-01-07 10:15:38 AM

GameSprocket: Apple ("You don't need that."):
Hiding complexity to the point where it actually hinders capability (see the new Airport utility).


OMG don't get me started on that!

My apple fanboy brother had me look at his network because after they switched internet providers nothing was working right. I go to look at his time machine router thing's settings and all I see is a pretty picture of the earth and great renderings of the different routers and extenders he had throughout his house, each with a little green or yellow dot next to them. If I clicked on edit it allowed me to do absolutely nothing.

This was nothing at all like the last time I tried to fix someone's apple router so after a quick google search (that I was able to do by turning my hacked android phone into a wireless hotspot) I installed the earlier version of the time machine software and then I could go in and turn on NAT and other things.

What do you know? It worked! I don't even understand what the point is of the other software besides being able to look at a pretty picture of your network.
 
2013-01-07 10:17:20 AM

s2s2s2: RexTalionis: No, that's in reference to "Works is works".

Not like it's a major security flaw, or causes you to send a text to a completely wrong number.

I'll admit, the maps thing is pretty terrible, but let me know when Apple catches up to Android in total number of horrible performance/security flaws.


Funny I have had zero security issues along with none of the family that have android devices and none of our texts have gone anywhere except where they were supposed to, sounds more like a phone/carrier issue.
 
2013-01-07 10:17:41 AM

likefunbutnot: s2s2s2: All I ever get from the complaints about iOS is lack of customizability.

No file system access. Application sandboxing. No widget support. Static icons. Lack of customizable input options. Single application vendor with strongly paternalistic tendencies. shiatty development process. Extremely limited interaction with proper personal computers. Development and end user culture that discourages giving away software in favor of nickle-and-dime costs for extremely simple functionality.

Do I need to go on?


Lol. None of those would be a problem for the vast majority of the target audience. I suspect there is plenty of pain to go around on all the platforms when you get to development.
 
2013-01-07 10:18:28 AM
Most geeks hate Apple, you see. They actually like the wild west nature of Android where random software runs incorrectly on mismatched hardware, because they're tinkerers at heart and they want the challenge of getting in there and reprogramming the whole thing to their heart's content. What we call practical usability, they call "closed" and "evil."

Those who would trade freedom for usability deserve to be abused by Apple.
 
2013-01-07 10:19:10 AM

s2s2s2: RexTalionis: No, that's in reference to "Works is works".

Not like it's a major security flaw, or causes you to send a text to a completely wrong number.

I'll admit, the maps thing is pretty terrible, but let me know when Apple catches up to Android in total number of horrible performance/security flaws.


Oh, I don't know - my Android Jelly Bean devices have pretty darn good performance, especially now with frame buffer precaching a la Project Butter.

As far as security issues go, sure Apple has fewer issues (by virtue of how locked down the device is), but it's not without  problems:

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/17/iphone-security-issue-opens-door -t o-sms-spoofing/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/iphone-security-issues-appl e- update_n_892203.html

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/02/10/fraunhofer-sit-exposes-more- ip hone-security-issues-cracks-passwords-in-6-minutes/

http://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-security-flaw-bypasses-pass-co de s-gives-access-to-contacts-list_id27137

Here's a good article on the state of iPhone security from the Security firm Sophos:
http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/06/29/apple-mobile-device-secur it y/
 
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