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(Netscape)   Asshat customer refuses to show ID for lottery ticket. Cashier decides to buy it; wins $25,000   ( divider line
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14656 clicks; posted to Main » on 11 Dec 2003 at 3:50 PM (13 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2003-12-11 09:27:41 AM  
Americans are taxed on lottery wins? Bummer.
2003-12-11 09:47:16 AM  
I started buying lotto tickets long before I turned 18. When did they start carding people?
2003-12-11 11:22:19 AM  
Americans are taxed on lottery wins?

The lotteries run in the U.S. are a little different than in the U.K. The U.S. lotteries (I can't really speak for all of them) generally pay about 50%-60% lottery revenue to the winners just like the UK National Lottery. However, the states run the different lotteries and there's no money paid directly to the federal government out of the lottery revenue, so they have to take money from the winnings and give it to the feds. Some states take the money and some states leave it up to you to pay your federal taxes. Also, some states make you pay state income tax on your winnings and some don't.

After doing some research, the Connecticut State Lottery is kinda stupid. They put 31% of lottery revenue into the state general fund (i.e. tax fund) but they also take an additional 5% from any large winnings plus they are required by state law to give 25% or 28% of winnings to the federal government on winnings of $5000 or more.
2003-12-11 11:28:06 AM  
Just curious here... This was posted on TotalFark about a dozen times yesterday. What gives?
2003-12-11 11:36:30 AM  
Wow, can't get more complicated than that!
2003-12-11 11:54:34 AM  
Scratch and win tickets are great. Michigan just started putting out vending machines with 'em. Wonderful! Walk up, put in a fin or a buck, and get a ticket. No need to wait in line behind the moron who can't decide want numbers to bet on.
2003-12-11 12:31:04 PM  
I've only played twice since we got the lottery a few years ago. I was never asked for an ID.
2003-12-11 12:55:11 PM  
NunontheRun, we have those all over the place here.
2003-12-11 03:16:10 PM  

Americans are taxed on lottery wins? Bummer.

In America, everything is taxed except inheritances and lawsuit awards. This is why we're kind only to our grandparents and sue the pants off everybody else.

/sarcasm, but only mild sarcasm
2003-12-11 03:58:56 PM  
I guess I should have just showed my id.... :(
2003-12-11 03:59:25 PM  
Who cares about selling lottery tickets to kids. If they want to buy one, let them buy one, you just have to be 18 to claim the prize. Most people don't realize that that is the law in a lot of states.
2003-12-11 04:00:26 PM  
I love scratch off...I once won $250. THAT day the transmission in my car went bonkers and the total bill to fix it was $251.

Karma's little balancing act.
2003-12-11 04:02:24 PM  
lawsuit from original ticket purchaser in 3...2..
2003-12-11 04:04:10 PM  
My 62 year old Father on a visit to Atlanta from the UK was refused a beer at the ball park and a cashier in publix refused to sell him a bottle of wine because he didn't have any state issued ID on him.

Are Americans happy with the way thier country is going?
2003-12-11 04:08:04 PM  
Asshat customer

Redundant. All customers are asshats.
2003-12-11 04:08:33 PM  
Are Americans happy with the way thier country is going?

Yes we are. We're also very happy that we as a nation can spell "their" correctly.
2003-12-11 04:08:39 PM  
"Morris had almost given up when the little scratch-off wrapped present and the Christmas tree didn't yield prizes."

Yeah, I always just scratch half my tickets, give up hope, and then throw them away.
2003-12-11 04:10:44 PM  
asshat customer files lawsuit in 5... 4... 3... 2...
2003-12-11 04:11:40 PM  
Are Americans happy with the way thier country is going?

Gosh, how can we be, knowing that there's both a ball park employee and a Publix cashier in Atlanta that are asshats!
2003-12-11 04:11:59 PM  
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2003-12-11 04:15:11 PM  
Coolest thing ever.
2003-12-11 04:15:43 PM  
Somewhere that customer is sitting in the dark, sobbing and punching himself repeatedly in the balls.
2003-12-11 04:15:59 PM  
"On Friday, she and her husband traveled an hour to New Britain's lottery office [for a] check for $17,501 after federal and state taxes."

But she refused to show her ID, so New Britain used the money to buy a small plot of land. Three days later oil sontaneously sprouted from the plot, at an estimated value of over $6 Million.

True story.
2003-12-11 04:16:59 PM  
Ok, maybe I'm cynical, but I'd be expecting a lawsuit against the supermarket any time now...

America - Land of the lawyers, home of baseless lawsuits...

2003-12-11 04:17:09 PM  
Sue on what grounds? Store policy is to ask for an ID. The customer refused and left. The clerk then waited until the end of her shift, and legally purchased the ticket.
Granted, not having a case doesn't stop most people, but still.
2003-12-11 04:17:16 PM  
Are Americans happy with the way thier country is going?

Which one? You mean our latest addition - Iraq?
2003-12-11 04:18:36 PM  
I came in the forum to make that exact point.

What a true tale of overcoming adversity and American sticktoitiveness.
2003-12-11 04:18:38 PM  
Instant karma. The guy has no grounds to sue. He can't even prove it was the ticket he was about to buy.
2003-12-11 04:18:54 PM  
Exactly - I don't think you even need grounds to sue these days. Lawyers will usually find a way to make a few bucks either way.

2003-12-11 04:19:18 PM  
yes, tufty, we're happy with it - we kicked your arse before and we can do it again
2003-12-11 04:20:04 PM  

Asshat customer

Redundant. All customers are asshats.

Quasi Mallrats reference?
2003-12-11 04:21:26 PM  
A guy wanted a 5 dollar ticket and the machine malfuctioned. So we hit another key and got a different 5 dollar ticket. But he still wanted the other 5 dollar ticket instead. So we called the people with the key. We gave him the one he wanted, and I bought the 5 dollar test one. I won 10 dollars. w00t. I never buy lottery tickets either.

Lottery is a tax for the mathmatically challenged.
2003-12-11 04:21:29 PM  
Pretty much anyplace will sell you a lotto ticket, but claiming it when youre under 18 is the hard part. This place probably knew it would get sued someday by a 17-year-old with a winning jackpot (they shouldnt have let me buy it, Im under 18!), hence the ID check.

As for the tearjerker Tufty told about his dad, a lot of places are like that. Partly its due to the overall stupidity of cashiers; management gets the shiat fined out of them if their store is caught selling to underage kids, so they make the cashiers card everyone, no exceptions.
Another reason would be attitude; if Tufty's dad had an attitude like his son's, the cashiers might have assumed he was a convicted criminal on a suspended license and therefore not allowed to drink.
2003-12-11 04:23:04 PM  
Monkeybrains scares me........I need a hug.
2003-12-11 04:23:20 PM  
Tax is a lottery for the challenges of mathematics.

Or something.
2003-12-11 04:24:14 PM  
monkeybrains....good name.
2003-12-11 04:24:52 PM  
Sorry about that tufty but that's the way it is here in ATL. You don't go anywhere without ID, he should have used his passport.
2003-12-11 04:27:08 PM  
He tried to use his didn't work.
2003-12-11 04:27:10 PM  
Great...we can probably get a bunch of people and beat him up...
2003-12-11 04:28:33 PM  
I partially agree with Cokemonkey. As a filthy forigner who lives here, I make it a practice to carry ID with me at all times and I have no problem showing it when asked...I have a feeling Tufty's Dad pulled the 'How Dare You, I'm a British Citizen' card when asked to poney up the cridentials.
2003-12-11 04:29:36 PM  
Any bets on when the customer will sue for that winnings plus damages?
2003-12-11 04:29:53 PM  
$6 Million per barrel? Cuz that would be impressive. $6 Million total for the plot is not impressive. I have chunks of $6 Million in my stool.
2003-12-11 04:30:43 PM  
I work in a convenience store, and we're told to ID EVERYBODY for sale of alcohol, but to use our own judgement for selling tobacco and lottery.

The reason is, a whole lot of shiat could go down if a store's caught selling alcohol to a minor - the store could lose its license. For tobacco and lottery, the cashier can just get fined for selling it to him. They have to make absolutely certain that we don't sell anyone under 21 alcohol, and carding EVERYONE is the easiest way to do so, in interest of fairness.

I hate having to make an 80-year-old man go back to his car to get his driver's license to buy a can of beer, but I have to. I could get fired if the cameras caught me selling ANYONE beer without having them show me their ID. So please, don't take your frustration of society's stupidity out on your friendly neighborhood cahsier.
2003-12-11 04:32:27 PM  

A passport is a valid form of ID. Whoever was responsible for checking him out was an idiot. But we're not ALL that bad, trust me.
2003-12-11 04:36:03 PM  
One of my co-workers (male) was upset with another co-worker (female) for some reason. She bought her weekly lottery ticket. He went out and bought 20 duplicates. He figured if she won, so would he but, he would get 20/21 of the jackpot. It would have much funnier if the numbers had actually won.
2003-12-11 04:37:57 PM  
I was filling out the forms for employee tax information one time and they said i needed my drivers license and my social security card (to show that I was a us citizen). I told them i dind't have a SS card but that I had a passport with me (in my backpack, don't ask me why but i always have it with me even though i am born/raised american). He said that they couldn't accept that and that i had to get a SS card. So, I applied for one and got it a few weeks later (without pay the whole time) and came back in. Another person was there and I told them waht happened and they were like 'yea that asshat was fired a week ago'.

Oh well just shows you how dumb people are, I mean with my passport I can get a new driver's license even without anything else like a birth certificate and this dumbass wouldn't take it even _with_ my drivers license.
2003-12-11 04:39:18 PM  
Forgot to mention, I'm 26 and get carded much more for cigarettes than alcohol (except for one liquer store who cards everyone, even my 50 yr old mom)
2003-12-11 04:48:19 PM  

That's not really true. Inheritances are taxed at the state level, and estates are taxed at the federal level if the decedent's estate is at or above a certain amount.
Personal injury awards are the only lawsuit proceeds expressly excluded from federal income tax.
2003-12-11 05:02:09 PM  
Whoever said that inheritances are not taxed, you are completely off.

Try looking at the tax on the estate of a decised(sp) person that is over about $600,000. It is not unusual for the primary benefactor of an medium-large estate to be the IRS through taxation.
2003-12-11 05:02:39 PM  
2003-12-11 04:04:10 PM tufty
My 62 year old Father on a visit to Atlanta from the UK was refused a beer at the ball park and a cashier in publix refused to sell him a bottle of wine because he didn't have any state issued ID on him.

Are Americans happy with the way thier country is going?
I worked concessions for the UCONN football games this season and everyone, regardless of age, had to show ID to get their wristband to be able to buy alcohol. My brother-in-law tried to buy a beer during an ice hockey game and had no ID, therefore, no beer. I think they take the "card everyone" position because I'm sure young-looking that are of age feel hassled when they get carded. Personally, I have no problem showing ID (I'm 42). If anything, I take it as flattery.
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