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2013-01-07 04:15:29 AM

msirois: He should have shot him in the face. I'm sure pellet gun boy is really going places in life and is going to make a substantial contribution to society.


Sadly, yes, he should've shot him in the face. The next victim Mr. Quinnel attacks may not be as fortunate as the one in the story.
 
2013-01-07 04:29:40 AM

Plusone: CSB time

My dad was a postal worker. While carrying mail in an apartment complex one day a 17 year old from a 2nd story shot him with a pellet rifle. It went in through his rib cage and was only a few inches from puncturing his lung. Well the police didn't take it to serious and some how the kid got let go. Fast foward a few years and the guy ended up killing 3 women and was on the run for 15+ years


I don't believe you. Postal workers are federal employees and it's a Federal crime to fark with them and they have their own Police Force.  A postal worker being shot would have not been handled by the local police.
 
2013-01-07 04:33:57 AM

Haliburton Cummings: thanks for that pro gun propaganda Gawker...

"see, not all gun wielding people are bad?"


I think it shows how much more responsible your average CCW holder is than your average cop. He kept his cool and made a perfectly rational decision. One that came at the cost to his own well being, but happened to work out best for everyone involved.
Any cop would have opened fire, and been well justified to do so.

/The sad part is that people in our government would gladly disarm one of these men.
/and it wouldn't be the racist criminal nutjob....
 
2013-01-07 05:56:33 AM
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
 
2013-01-07 06:38:49 AM

borg: Plusone: CSB time

My dad was a postal worker. While carrying mail in an apartment complex one day a 17 year old from a 2nd story shot him with a pellet rifle. It went in through his rib cage and was only a few inches from puncturing his lung. Well the police didn't take it to serious and some how the kid got let go. Fast foward a few years and the guy ended up killing 3 women and was on the run for 15+ years

I don't believe you. Postal workers are federal employees and it's a Federal crime to fark with them and they have their own Police Force.  A postal worker being shot would have not been handled by the local police.


I knew a kid that got probation for shooting a tree from out of his window. So... yeah.
 
2013-01-07 07:10:07 AM
sidesalad.net

That's not a real gun, is it Clark?
Are you kidding? This is a Magnum P.I.
It's a BB gun!
Don't tempt me. I could put an eye out with this thing.
You couldn't even break the skin with that thing.
/Disappointed this wasn't already posted.
 
2013-01-07 07:13:48 AM

lewismarktwo: I knew a kid that got probation for shooting a tree from out of his window. So... yeah.


Yeah, but if the tree fit through his window it must have been a pretty small tree.
 
2013-01-07 08:08:07 AM
See this is the guy that shouldn't have a conceal carry permit.

Why carry a gun is you aren't prepared to use it when attacked. Was he not trained?

Its as stupid as carrying around an unloaded gun for protection.
 
2013-01-07 08:08:40 AM
If Mohammad had followed the NRA recommendations for concealed weaponry and fired wildly into the air every couple minutes, this wouldn't have happened.
 
2013-01-07 08:10:15 AM

Satanic_Hamster: lewismarktwo: I knew a kid that got probation for shooting a tree from out of his window. So... yeah.

Yeah, but if the tree fit through his window it must have been a pretty small tree.


Even as I typed it, I knew.
 
2013-01-07 08:11:39 AM

lewismarktwo: I knew a kid that got probation for shooting a tree from out of his window. So... yeah.


This wouldn't have happened had the tree and all the tress around it been armed. Also, the house. Arm the house. Big dick house gun. For protection.
 
2013-01-07 08:13:07 AM
Bumper stickers telling me to keep honking because frustrated gun owners in cars are reloading wouldn't have happened had I been armed and honking.
 
2013-01-07 08:34:55 AM
img40.imageshack.us

Can't decide between RIP PROFESSOR QUIRRELL or "Troll in the thread ... thought you should know"

/late to the party
//not my fault I have to sleep sometimes
///oh well
 
2013-01-07 08:41:39 AM

Buffalo77: See this is the guy that shouldn't have a conceal carry permit.

Why carry a gun is you aren't prepared to use it when attacked. Was he not trained?

Its as stupid as carrying around an unloaded gun for protection.


depends on whether he froze or recognized a non-lethal threat.
/I do have a friend that carries but doesn't chamber a round. I tell him he has better odds if he just throws the gun at an attacker
 
2013-01-07 09:02:28 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

Oh, you're cute. Rare? How rare? "Most" people "would have"? (Hypothetical slipped in as fact?)

Please, give us some actual statistics to support your statements. Otherwise just STFU with the weasel-words.


Obviously this guy is not a responsible gun owner since a responsible gun owner that has a concealed carry permit is a crack shot and can hit a fleeing target even if there are bystanders around the line of fire. I've been told by many farkers in numerous gun threads that they are way better shots than cops because they spend copious amounts of time at the range just to make sure that they hit their targets in situations like this.

/amirite?
 
2013-01-07 09:04:33 AM
As a felon, Quinnell was banned from carrying firearms. That's why, he told deputies Thursday night, he carried the pellet gun instead.

Funny, I was sure criminals don't respect gun laws.
 
2013-01-07 09:13:03 AM

PsyLord: I've been told by many farkers in numerous gun threads that they are way better shots than cops because they spend copious amounts of time at the range just to make sure that they hit their targets in situations like this.


Time that cops should probably spend, considering that their accuracy far worse but their risk for a violent encounter is much higher.

dl.dropbox.com
 
2013-01-07 09:29:55 AM

Irving Maimway: Cameron Mohammed is a better man than I am.


allow me to also echo this
 
2013-01-07 09:33:35 AM
Cameron Mohammed for Congress!


'Bout time we get somebody that isn't "trigger-happy".
 
2013-01-07 09:39:56 AM
Give the guy a break on the not drawing and firing nonsense. Firstly you have no idea how you would react in the exact same situation trained or not. Secondly, I may have read TFA wrong but it seems to me he was hit by BBs on the first shot before he had his hand on his gun. I'm guessing that he was pretty sure that it was a non-lethal weapon but was ready to draw and fire if the situation changed.
 
2013-01-07 09:42:04 AM

gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


I think the real tragedy is that Daniel Quinnell is still alive. Seems to me that society as a whole would be better off without him.
 
2013-01-07 09:48:17 AM

Buffalo77: See this is the guy that shouldn't have a conceal carry permit.

Why carry a gun is you aren't prepared to use it when attacked. Was he not trained?

Its as stupid as carrying around an unloaded gun for protection.


Where wolf: depends on whether he froze or recognized a non-lethal threat.


Just took my CHL course yesterday. He would have been completely justified had he shot him and I think he showed tremendous self control.
 
2013-01-07 09:54:58 AM

JohnnyC: Daniel Quinnell... is a farking loser. I hope he never manages to breed.


It's Florida, man. Skinheads breed down there like the vermin that they are.
 
2013-01-07 09:58:42 AM

Egoy3k: Give the guy a break on the not drawing and firing nonsense. Firstly you have no idea how you would react in the exact same situation trained or not. Secondly, I may have read TFA wrong but it seems to me he was hit by BBs on the first shot before he had his hand on his gun. I'm guessing that he was pretty sure that it was a non-lethal weapon but was ready to draw and fire if the situation changed.


THIS

He was there, he made the decision. The only problem I have is all the gun grabbers in this thread trying to make this an example of "the ONLY responsible choice a gun owner should be allowed to make," when blowing the punk's head off would have been an equally responsible choice in this situation.

/but then, making everyone except the noble classes a helpless victim is the goal of the progressive left
//and every news story, including this one, will be used as a weapon toward that goal
 
2013-01-07 10:03:15 AM

CheekyMonkey: gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

I think the real tragedy is that Daniel Quinnell is still alive. Seems to me that society as a whole would be better off without him.


Agreed, but according to the victim he didn't have a clear shot and his attacker ran off. So He used his discretion and left the job of man hunting to the cops.

Having the gun may have prevented a worse outcome tho. I'm curious what made the attacker run, and the victim reaching for his waist was probably it.

/people want the option to be armed.
/but being armed isn't an obligation to use force.
 
2013-01-07 10:09:37 AM
He should have dropped a one-liner on him right before he blasted him, then he would be a real hero.

Sort of like how in Crocodile Dundee, when the bad guy pulls out a knife and he tells him "that's not a knife, this is a knife". Something like that.

Maybe "Allah Akbar, Mother F*cker!"
 
2013-01-07 10:12:39 AM

Egoy3k: Give the guy a break on the not drawing and firing nonsense. Firstly you have no idea how you would react in the exact same situation trained or not.


Didn't you read any comments after the movie theater massacre? Every single guy online would have calmly drawn his pistol and safely put one shot into the guy's face because real life is exactly like a range. Then everyone in the theater would applaud and everyone who was ever mean to them in high school would be sorry.
 
2013-01-07 10:29:22 AM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Egoy3k: Give the guy a break on the not drawing and firing nonsense. Firstly you have no idea how you would react in the exact same situation trained or not.

Didn't you read any comments after the movie theater massacre? Every single guy online would have calmly drawn his pistol and safely put one shot into the guy's face because real life is exactly like a range. Then everyone in the theater would applaud and everyone who was ever mean to them in high school would be sorry.


Oh yeah and you forgot that all of the hot chicks in the theater would have totally banged them too.

This is pretty much the problem with both sides of this debate. Simply put guns are not as closely related to crime statistics as either side of the debate would like us to believe. In this instance I think the gun was used by an innocent man to help protect himself and his girlfriend from serious injury.
 
2013-01-07 10:51:08 AM

mizchief: You defend your self with deadly force to prevent a forceable felony.

As defined in FL:

776.08 Forcible felony.

"Forcible felony" means treason; murder; manslaughter; sexual battery; carjacking; home-invasion robbery; robbery; burglary; arson; kidnapping; aggravated assault; aggravated battery; aggravated stalking; aircraft piracy; unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb; and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual.

I think being attacked with pellet gun would be an aggravated assault, so he would be able to kill the guy and not be prosecuted.

But as all concealed carry permit holders know, you only fire as a last resort, as killing someone under any circumstance is a major hassle and would at least cost you a few thousand dollars in legal defense. Not to mention the emotional trauma associated with talking a life.


That last one is what would give me pause to pull the trigger. There's no "reload game" IRL.
 
2013-01-07 10:56:48 AM

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Egoy3k: Give the guy a break on the not drawing and firing nonsense. Firstly you have no idea how you would react in the exact same situation trained or not.

Didn't you read any comments after the movie theater massacre? Every single guy online would have calmly drawn his pistol and safely put one shot into the guy's face because real life is exactly like a range. Then everyone in the theater would applaud and everyone who was ever mean to them in high school would be sorry.


They had to shoot him in the face. He was wearing MKIV power armor with an iron halo to boot!
 
2013-01-07 11:24:12 AM

OscarTamerz: Meet Daniel Quinnell, the luckiest asshole in 'Merika

[img.dailymail.co.uk image 300x360]

Let's see how lucky his asshole feels after a few nights with his new cellblock besties.


With as many convictions as that idiot has, I'm pretty sure he likes that. Why else would he keep going back?
 
2013-01-07 11:40:19 AM

Plusone: CSB time

My dad was a postal worker. While carrying mail in an apartment complex one day a 17 year old from a 2nd story shot him with a pellet rifle. It went in through his rib cage and was only a few inches from puncturing his lung. Well the police didn't take it to serious and some how the kid got let go. Fast foward a few years and the guy ended up killing 3 women and was on the run for 15+ years


FWIW if you hold a butter knife against your ribcage you are "within a few inches of puncturing your lung", but still, CSB.
 
2013-01-07 01:20:33 PM

CaptSS: Victim had every right to fire at the suspect as soon as he saw him point the weapon at him.


USA USA USA!!!!
 
2013-01-07 01:28:58 PM

MaritimeGirl: The entire concept of hate crime bothers me. It defines one human being as more valuable than another. Murder is murder. If a person kills a victim because he has blue eyes, is that a hate crime? If a person kills a victim because he has brown skin, that all of a sudden is a hate crime. In both cases the murderer is crazy, the murderer is guilty of the same crime, not two different ones where one is worse than the other.


It's not about the victim themselves. It's about the intent to frighten others like the victim into behaving as the criminal wants them to. For example, this guy yelling about a "n----- with a white girl" suggests that he wanted this victim to be a symbol of what happens to black guys who date white women, and scare black people into not dating white people. It's similar to terrorism in that the goal is greater than the immediate crime; it's meant to frighten the populace, which is a more serious crime than simply hurting one person.

Whether you can prove intent is another story, but I think at their core, hate-crime laws are a good thing.
 
2013-01-07 01:36:04 PM

gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


No kidding. If more gun owners were this responsible, we wouldn't have tens of millions of gun deaths every year.
 
2013-01-07 02:48:58 PM

umad: tens of millions of gun deaths every year.


How many?
 
2013-01-07 02:54:25 PM

R.A.Danny: umad: tens of millions of gun deaths every year.

How many?


The tens of millions that obviously happen since most gun owners aren't this responsible. Tens is probably underestimating a bit. We have to be killing our entire population every five years or so at least.
 
2013-01-07 02:58:39 PM

Red_Fox: CaptSS: Victim had every right to fire at the suspect as soon as he saw him point the weapon at him.

USA USA USA!!!!


Damn straight!
 
2013-01-07 03:00:56 PM

Chinchillazilla: MaritimeGirl: The entire concept of hate crime bothers me. It defines one human being as more valuable than another. Murder is murder. If a person kills a victim because he has blue eyes, is that a hate crime? If a person kills a victim because he has brown skin, that all of a sudden is a hate crime. In both cases the murderer is crazy, the murderer is guilty of the same crime, not two different ones where one is worse than the other.

It's not about the victim themselves. It's about the intent to frighten others like the victim into behaving as the criminal wants them to. For example, this guy yelling about a "n----- with a white girl" suggests that he wanted this victim to be a symbol of what happens to black guys who date white women, and scare black people into not dating white people. It's similar to terrorism in that the goal is greater than the immediate crime; it's meant to frighten the populace, which is a more serious crime than simply hurting one person.

Whether you can prove intent is another story, but I think at their core, hate-crime laws are a good thing.


That's a pretty good explanation.
 
2013-01-07 03:03:29 PM

BuckTurgidson: Tumunga: My head hurts.

not enough. needs more brain cancer.


No thanks. I've already eaten.

home.comcast.net
Is that Simon Crowel??
 
2013-01-07 04:43:50 PM

vodka: I think his response makes perfect sense. He got shot and then by the time he could have fired back the assailant was already running away. There would have been no point, it was over, the threat was gone. In other words his gun offered no protection from an attack like this.


We have a winner!
Remarkable good sense.
Since I have been ambushed IRL, on occasion, I am getting a kick,,,
 
2013-01-07 05:19:15 PM
I really like you

WhyteRaven74: And this, is justice. Shooting and likely killing the guy would just be vengeance not justice. And vengeance gets you nowhere.


You should have been added to my faves eons ago, but as it is, you are added today. Thank you and keep the peace and the sane vibe.
 
2013-01-07 05:27:12 PM

specialkae: I really like you WhyteRaven74: And this, is justice. Shooting and likely killing the guy would just be vengeance not justice. And vengeance gets you nowhere.

You should have been added to my faves eons ago, but as it is, you are added today. Thank you and keep the peace and the sane vibe.


I am a political polar opposite of WhyteRaven74 in many ways, and I will still vouch that he is indeed a completely awesome human being.
 
2013-01-07 05:27:22 PM
He is a better man then I since I would have triple tapped him (that is two to the chest one to the head for those that don't know)
 
2013-01-07 05:42:29 PM

mizchief: But as all concealed carry permit holders know, you only fire as a last resort, as killing someone under any circumstance is a major hassle and would at least cost you a few thousand dollars in legal defense.


Not to mention the possible civil ramifications...a point hammered home quite a bit in my class.
 
2013-01-07 05:46:06 PM

Profedius: He is a better man then I since I would have triple tapped him (that is two to the chest one to the head for those that don't know)


AKA Two hugs and a kiss
 
2013-01-07 05:46:12 PM

Hickory-smoked: Actually, I don't see how his actions prove gun-control advocates wrong at all.

"It's too easy for assholes to get guns" is not the same statement as "all people with guns are assholes."


I mean more the implied assumption among many gun-control zealots that the average joe can't be relied upon to restrain himself from blasting away at the slightest provocation and that more people armed will absolutely mean more minor conflicts end in gunfights.
 
2013-01-07 05:50:03 PM

R.A.Danny: specialkae: I really like you WhyteRaven74: And this, is justice. Shooting and likely killing the guy would just be vengeance not justice. And vengeance gets you nowhere.

You should have been added to my faves eons ago, but as it is, you are added today. Thank you and keep the peace and the sane vibe.

I am a political polar opposite of WhyteRaven74 in many ways, and I will still vouch that he is indeed a completely awesome human being.


I love this post, so very much
 
2013-01-07 05:54:25 PM

Phoenix_M: Profedius: He is a better man then I since I would have triple tapped him (that is two to the chest one to the head for those that don't know)

AKA Two hugs and a kiss


I have to admit I never heard that, but I like it. They mostly just drilled double tap into our heads over and over and there seemed to always be someone who would only tap once which would earn us some team work discipline work out time.
 
2013-01-07 05:55:15 PM

Profedius: He is a better man then I since I would have triple tapped him (that is two to the chest one to the head for those that don't know)


Thanks for explaining that. i was wondering about the terminology and then I read the rest of your sentence. You sound really dangerous and like someone I DEFINITELY want on my side in a situation where a "triple tap" would be necessary.!
 
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