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2013-01-06 11:34:18 PM  

poe_zlaw: It's less about trying to hold people to and encourage higher levels of competence than it is about just trying to put someone down in an attempt to look smarter.


I don't think the writer actually believes the shooter would have been justified if the victim had actually been a Muslim. I do believe journalists and their editors should try to avoid embarrassing mistakes like the one I cited.

I've worked as a proofreader at a newspaper. This is the kind of gaffe I was paid to catch. It's possible to point out these things AND agree with the writer. Try a little nuance. It might do you some good.
 
KIA
2013-01-06 11:34:53 PM  

Harry_Seldon: I hate being presented with the idea that I must choose one, and only one, of the three women. If I must, I will have the one on the far left brought to me with a light perfuming.


Very well, sirrah. I will have the third one from the left brought to me with a case of cold gatorade to rehydrate both of us from exhaustive gymanstics which shall follow.
 
2013-01-06 11:36:14 PM  

AirForceVet: gilgigamesh: A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

Completely agree with you there. He held his fire, kept his weapon holstered and noted a bystander could have been in the line of fire.


But it was not a rare example at all. On the contrary, most gun owners are responsible.

If most American gun owners were the type of imbeciles that many farkers believe they are, there would be a whole shtload of dead farkers and blood running in the streets ;)
 
2013-01-06 11:36:17 PM  

KIA: msirois: Not usually no. But people who think that you can't get a gun because of a law are less than smart.

I thought all guns already had to be registered in Canada. Are you saying that even though Canada spent decades and untold billions of dollars on their gun control programs, you can still buy one at 1 AM from a corner dealer? Wow, that says a lot about enforceability of new laws.

Also, since you're Canadian, you cannot buy any guns in American from any licensed dealer nor from any law-abiding citizen since sales in states must be between state residents - and you're not one. So... you can't just buy a gun here.


These are exactly my points. Despite all this. Anyone can get a gun. I can "just buy a gun" here or there. If you didn't know this, you have no idea what goes on outside.
 
2013-01-06 11:36:52 PM  

FormlessOne: poe_zlaw: Plant Rights Activist: AssAsInAssassin: FTFA: "Mohammed will have surgery to remove a few of the pellets, and the most lasting pain will be the trauma of being the victim of a hate crime - one in which he was shot in the face for being something that he isn't."

What the fark does it matter whether he is or isn't a Muslim? How does that make the slightest farking difference? How did this excrement make it past an editor?

Fark, some "journalists" are dumb.

The way I read it it sounds like the author is trying to say it would somehow be better if he is a Muslim. Not sure if that is his intent, but that is how that sentence comes off.

Jesus, fcuikn relax you two. News article/ editor police are worse than the grammar police. He told you a story. You got the information from it. Quit crying about what else he says. Go get yourself a pulitzer if you're so fcuikng good.

Yeah! The ignorance of that writer is just as good as your knowledge!

Seriously, this is why it's becoming harder and harder to find anyone that can write with confidence and competence - because more and more folks are happy to accept such sloppy writing.

I suppose I shouldn't complain, as folks like that are keeping me in kibble, but still, it's always fun to watch someone stand up for incompetence, as if it's somehow defensible. "It's 'Murika! Yer allow'd ta be stupid! Don't yew criticize him - he's just exercisin' his rights as a 'Murikan!"


Protip: You not liking his writing style doesn't automatically make the reporter incompetent or stupid.
 
2013-01-06 11:37:11 PM  
He wasn't trying to kill Mohammed, he was trying to harass him. He didn't count on him having a gun to defend himself. Anyone saying this is proof that criminals can't get guns is delusional or disingenuous.
 
2013-01-06 11:38:10 PM  
So it's not easy to acquire a firearm in America? Thank you for clearing that up.

EASY to get a GAT but use it and see what happens.
 
2013-01-06 11:39:16 PM  

msirois: KIA: msirois: Because that's stupid. I live in Canada in a city of about 100,000 and I can walk down the street right now at 1am and get a gun.

Are you a whackjob?

Not usually no. But people who think that you can't get a gun because of a law are less than smart.


Nobody thinks that.
 
2013-01-06 11:42:08 PM  

lewismarktwo: He wasn't trying to kill Mohammed, he was trying to harass him. He didn't count on him having a gun to defend himself. Anyone saying this is proof that criminals can't get guns is delusional or disingenuous.


Don't say that on here ! Apparently you can't get a gun in the states. Only good Americans can get guns. All those killings and drug deal killings, mass murders etc etc etc ad nauseum were done with registered guns by the registered owners.
 
KIA
2013-01-06 11:48:08 PM  

msirois: I can "just buy a gun" here or there.


No. You can't just buy a gun here. Try it sometime, see what happens.
 
2013-01-06 11:48:12 PM  

gilgigamesh: joonyer: gilgigamesh: Damn.  A lot of you farkers could use some lessons in reading comprehension.

It's us, not you.

I quoted a line from the article that stated the victim realized he could have shot an innocent bystander and said it was a good thing that tragedy was avoided, and got accused by a half dozen people of being a Nazi sympathizer or something.

So yes.  Yes it is.


Sleep well.
 
2013-01-06 11:52:03 PM  
I missed something. ITG?
 
2013-01-06 11:52:06 PM  

glennizen: AirForceVet: gilgigamesh: A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

Completely agree with you there. He held his fire, kept his weapon holstered and noted a bystander could have been in the line of fire.

But it was not a rare example at all. On the contrary, most gun owners are responsible.

If most American gun owners were the type of imbeciles that many farkers believe they are, there would be a whole shtload of dead farkers and blood running in the streets ;)


Two kinds of people who should not own guns:

Those who are too afraid to use one.

Those who are too eager.

I haven't been here long, but I've come to the conclusion that a lot of farkers seem to believe all gun owners fall into the second category.
 
2013-01-06 11:52:32 PM  
You know, Mr Mohammad here really deserves the props. Being targeted as a Muslim, having the vision to see the innocent and the prophetic calm to realize it wasn't a weapon all while out with his young girl friend who he had provided clear instructions too and she followed is amazing.
 
2013-01-07 12:03:29 AM  

msirois: KIA: msirois: Not usually no. But people who think that you can't get a gun because of a law are less than smart.

I thought all guns already had to be registered in Canada. Are you saying that even though Canada spent decades and untold billions of dollars on their gun control programs, you can still buy one at 1 AM from a corner dealer? Wow, that says a lot about enforceability of new laws.

Also, since you're Canadian, you cannot buy any guns in American from any licensed dealer nor from any law-abiding citizen since sales in states must be between state residents - and you're not one. So... you can't just buy a gun here.

These are exactly my points. Despite all this. Anyone can get a gun. I can "just buy a gun" here or there. If you didn't know this, you have no idea what goes on outside.



Canada has a growing gun problem. Although I suppose many Americans imagine that firearms in Canuckistan are fiercely regulated - the truth is that over the last couple of decades, restrictions on firearms have been loosening instead of getting tighter.

The problem, to be succinct, is not just regulation of firearms (It's a pain in the ass to get one in Canada), but the elimination of them. The fact's are that 50% of gun crimes are commited with guns stolen from registered owners (with the other significant number of crimes being committed with illegally smuggled weapons from America)

Gun control in Australia (where I happen to live these days) has been very succesful because of two primary reasons:
1) Buying back guns (Reduction in the number of guns out there means less can be used for crime, duh)
2) Doesn't share a border with America (It's hard to reduce gun violence when gun smuggling is so easy)

Bans work. Might not like 'em, but they work - regulation is mostly just a pain in the bum.
 
2013-01-07 12:04:17 AM  

msirois: KIA: msirois: Because that's stupid. I live in Canada in a city of about 100,000 and I can walk down the street right now at 1am and get a gun.

Are you a whackjob?

Not usually no. But people who think that you can't get a gun because of a law are less than smart.


It wasn't just that he "couldn't get a gun"; it's that if he had had a real gun on him during this arrest, he'd have gone to jail pretty much forever.

Understand?
 
2013-01-07 12:08:40 AM  
FTFA: That didn't matter to Quinnell, who told police that "they're all the same" after being informed that Mohammed isn't Muslim.

He's not Muslim, Quinell. I mean, do a little research; be certain what you're shooting at. We can't just have people attacking non-Muslims. Non-Muslims have rights in our society!

/NTTAWWT
 
2013-01-07 12:08:53 AM  
Man, that guy deserves a big oversized HERO tag. If ever there was a straight up example of good christian "turn the other cheek" it was this Mohammed. Everyone should buy him a beer.

Also, very entertaining how he managed to prove bible-thumpers, xenophobes AND gun-control nuts ALL wrong with one simple choice.
 
2013-01-07 12:13:43 AM  

CowardlyLion: Not arguing for shooting anyone, ever, but if you're not willing to draw and fire on someone, you should not be carrying a firearm.

/I'll never be carrying one


I would never own a firearm because i feel too many people need and/or deserve shooting or killing.
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People in the thread all angry at the guy making racist remarks - yeah right like you've never told the wrong joke or never made a racial slur. Go fark yourselves you hypocrites. In America you can be what you want to be and speak your mind. Both you and him have that privilege. Don't be a hypocrite. People say nasty things, people are nasty some times. It's our nature. it's bullshiat to think you can't express yourself or think different thoughts. Never seen a comedian? Get real. Everyone has likes and dislikes. Don't be a finger pointing hypocrite, I say to those folks. Go outside, look around. A good portion of the population are fools and cartoon characters. Don't pretend there aren't types that don't piss you off royally, folks. Politically correct namby-pamby pantywaists, some people. You don't love everyone and you never did, I say to these people.
 
2013-01-07 12:26:16 AM  
So, the libtards in here are pissed that the guy didn't shoot Mr. Quinnell? I thought that's what they wanted, a criminal to be able to do what he wants without retribution, you know, let the law sort it out.

My head hurts.
 
2013-01-07 12:30:54 AM  

ciberido: Protip: You not liking his writing style doesn't automatically make the reporter incompetent or stupid.


ProTip: Writing a sentence that implies the crime might have been mitigated had the victim been Muslim does make the writer a tad less than competent. This is not to say he isn't an otherwise good reporter, or that he should look for another job, or that the newspaper should be boycotted, or that anyone should get their panties in a tight little bunch like yours are.

Jesus. I merely pointed out that the writer wrote something badly, that came off as insensitive. It's what I do--literally. I am a proofreader. I proofread. I passed judgment only on the writer's style, not on his point of view. Please, try to compartmentalize your anger. You'll find the world works better when you can see several viewpoints simultaneously, rather than making everything black or white, us or them.

Take a nap.
 
2013-01-07 12:36:16 AM  

Tumunga: My head hurts.


not enough. needs more brain cancer.
 
2013-01-07 12:36:31 AM  

gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


To be honest, if I'm carrying and someone pulls a gun on me, I'm not waiting to find out if it's a pellet gun or a .45. I'm drawing first and living.
 
2013-01-07 12:38:58 AM  
The entire concept of hate crime bothers me. It defines one human being as more valuable than another. Murder is murder. If a person kills a victim because he has blue eyes, is that a hate crime? If a person kills a victim because he has brown skin, that all of a sudden is a hate crime. In both cases the murderer is crazy, the murderer is guilty of the same crime, not two different ones where one is worse than the other.
 
2013-01-07 12:49:58 AM  

walkerhound: It's enough for him to know he could've blown the guy away if he had no choice.


I'm sure had he pulled the gun, this Daniel Quinnell guy would've run from the premises screaming like a little girl.
 
2013-01-07 12:51:05 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

To be honest, if I'm carrying and someone pulls a gun on me, I'm not waiting to find out if it's a pellet gun or a .45. I'm drawing first and living.


My b*tch would've already taken the perp out with the .38 holmes, you bonus! Too slow an you gotta go - I'm sayin'.

/adjusts outerwear in a confident, dominating gesture
/!!!!!!
 
2013-01-07 12:53:35 AM  

Plusone: CSB time

My dad was a postal worker. While carrying mail in an apartment complex one day a 17 year old from a 2nd story shot him with a pellet rifle. It went in through his rib cage and was only a few inches from puncturing his lung. Well the police didn't take it to serious and some how the kid got let go. Fast foward a few years and the guy ended up killing 3 women and was on the run for 15+ years


A pellet rifle went through his clothing, skin, as well as ribs and/or intercostal muscles, and was a federal government employee who was on duty at the time, and only the local cops got involved? And they caught the person responsible, but just let him go?

You're leaving a lot out of that story, or you made it up.
 
2013-01-07 12:56:37 AM  
I think his response makes perfect sense. He got shot and then by the time he could have fired back the assailant was already running away. There would have been no point, it was over, the threat was gone. In other words his gun offered no protection from an attack like this.
 
2013-01-07 01:04:29 AM  

ekdikeo4: I'm sure had he pulled the gun, this Daniel Quinnell guy would've run from the premises screaming like a little girl.


I agree. My point is What happens the next time this situation comes up with two different people.
 
2013-01-07 01:22:49 AM  

BSABSVR: Especially once the Fark ITG contingent show up to talk about all the badassery that they would have thrown down on him.


That's the shortest launch into derpville I've ever seen. Grats.
 
2013-01-07 01:26:54 AM  
Meet Daniel Quinnell, the luckiest asshole in 'Merika

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Let's see how lucky his asshole feels after a few nights with his new cellblock besties.
 
2013-01-07 01:33:03 AM  
Only in America would it be described as 'bizarre' when you decide not to shoot someone when you have a few pellets shot at you.
 
2013-01-07 01:37:33 AM  

gilgigamesh: A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


A tragedy for Quinnell. Blessing for anyone who might have to deal with his tard ass in the future. Unfortunately, I doubt prison is going to mellow him out.
 
2013-01-07 01:45:06 AM  

gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


Citation please.
 
2013-01-07 01:48:35 AM  

KIA: msirois: I can "just buy a gun" here or there.

No. You can't just buy a gun here. Try it sometime, see what happens.


If you know the right people it's fairly easy. Not hard to locate private sellers, even if you don't know anyone, with sites llike armslist.com and etc.
So yeah, I can go out and buy a gun tomorrow, without waiting, registering, licensing, etc.

/unless by "here", you're talking Canadia or something
 
2013-01-07 01:52:44 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Irving Maimway: Cameron Mohammed is a better man than I am.

Absolutely. I'd like to think that in the same situation, I'd be calm enough to NOT kill someone who (despite being a grade-A asshole) wasn't actually threatening my life. And like other Farkers here, I would totally understand if he had sent this clown to the morgue, where be probably belongs.

I really, really, really hope that Quinnell thinks for a long time about what he did and what could have happened to him. He owes his life to the decency of one of the people he hates so much. He'd best not forget that, because he probably won't be so lucky the next time he behaves this way.

And as for Mr. Mohammed, he remembered the words of Gandalf. Hopefully Quinnell can make himself useful by throwing himself into an active volcano in the next movie.....


I wish I could "Smart" this twice. Unfortunately, 10 arrests in 6 years makes me think Mr. Quinnell has a severe personality disorder that is probably beyond fixing. My more humble hope is that the knowledge he could've been shot will be enough to scare him and make him reconsider similar attacks in the future.
 
2013-01-07 02:05:19 AM  

gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


Oh, you're cute. Rare? How rare? "Most" people "would have"? (Hypothetical slipped in as fact?)

Please, give us some actual statistics to support your statements. Otherwise just STFU with the weasel-words.
 
2013-01-07 02:06:55 AM  

BojanglesPaladin: Man, that guy deserves a big oversized HERO tag. If ever there was a straight up example of good christian "turn the other cheek" it was this Mohammed. Everyone should buy him a beer.

Also, very entertaining how he managed to prove bible-thumpers, xenophobes AND gun-control nuts ALL wrong with one simple choice.


Actually, I don't see how his actions prove gun-control advocates wrong at all.

"It's too easy for assholes to get guns" is not the same statement as "all people with guns are assholes."
 
2013-01-07 02:08:48 AM  
This demonstrates that even if you're packing heat for self defence you're still farked if you're dealing with a psycho who is suddenly going to unexpectedly draw and start shooting you.

It also demonstrates that Cameron Mohammed has super human restraint. Got shot in the face and neck from something that looks like a real gun, in the dark,  and doesn't sound too dissimilar to a real gun with a silencer and he didn't return fire. I can't honestly say for sure that I'd be so level headed in that situation. I'd probably have returned fire before realizing I'd only been shot by a toy.
 
2013-01-07 02:14:28 AM  

gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


Actually, people, I think we have all been trolled, in the real sense of the word. gilgigamesh's single initial post and two "spin" followup posts has 17 (and counting) responses, including mine. 10/10 Magnificent. A work of art.
 
2013-01-07 02:20:59 AM  

Irving Maimway: Cameron Mohammed is a better man than I am.


He has compassion for retards which can't be easy.
 
2013-01-07 02:22:02 AM  

Harry_Seldon: basemetal: NOTHING good can come from going to WalMart at 3:00am.

Satisfy late night Slim Jim craving.


Those things are nasty. You'd be better off buying a pack of smokes.
 
2013-01-07 02:29:56 AM  

sloshed_again: Does it matter what you are or who you are?


Unfortunately, it does matter in some parts of Florida.
 
2013-01-07 02:30:51 AM  
The Tampa Bay police say the "pellet gun" is an airsoft gun, but the video also says they are looking for the suspect, so maybe it's early-bad info. A pellet gun with metal slugs could mess you up.
 
2013-01-07 02:36:33 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: That chickenshiat is going to have his pistol stolen because the entire world now knows he's too much of a chickenshiat and candyass to stop you


I disagree. I think it is a good thing that he decided to not risk hitting an innocent bystander. His attacker was fleeing and he wasn't sure he could take a clear shot.

Maybe I just got trolled, but I'm not comfortable with the idea that one must start firing before assessing the situation.
 
2013-01-07 02:38:13 AM  

Bucky Katt: sloshed_again: Does it matter what you are or who you are?

Unfortunately, it does matter in some parts of Florida.



Not just in Florida.
 
2013-01-07 02:49:21 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

Oh, you're cute. Rare? How rare? "Most" people "would have"? (Hypothetical slipped in as fact?)

Please, give us some actual statistics to support your statements. Otherwise just STFU with the weasel-words.


The reporter thought it was rare, because he used the words "bizarre" and "hard to reconcile".
 
2013-01-07 03:03:23 AM  

Bucky Katt: Harry_Seldon: basemetal: NOTHING good can come from going to WalMart at 3:00am.

Satisfy late night Slim Jim craving.

Those things are nasty. You'd be better off buying a pack of smokes.


Do they contained mechanically rendered animal parts?
 
2013-01-07 03:10:09 AM  
I fondly recall this one Fark thread where a bunch of conservatives were masturbating about how shooting an unarmed shoplifter who stole a bottle of liquor was justified. They truly had no problem with ending someones life over a handle.

Good times, I'd love to see their reactions to this.
 
2013-01-07 04:07:43 AM  
thanks for that pro gun propaganda Gawker...

"see, not all gun wielding people are bad?"

/keep the guns
//but get a licence to breed
///test on monday
 
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