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(Gawker)   Meet Daniel Quinnell, the luckiest asshole in 'Merika   (gawker.com) divider line 266
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2013-01-06 09:45:49 PM  
I suppose he could have shot him in the knee or something. Kudos for him for not taking a life, though.
 
2013-01-06 09:46:09 PM  
Mugshot of bbgun guy:
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He was turned in by his mommy, and the police reported that he continued to badmouth Muslims while being booked. This guy is a lost cause.
 
2013-01-06 09:46:20 PM  

freewill: Mighty generous of him.

I wouldn't have faulted him one bit if he did waste the douche.


Or at least shot him in the nuts to prevent him from possibly breeding.
 
2013-01-06 09:48:07 PM  

duffblue: gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

The only reason it's a rare example is because responsible people rarely make the news. What would be a tragedy? A racist criminal being removed from the gene pool? Go back to Stormfront.


I've bolded the relevant data for you. He could have hit a bystander had he shot at the idiot.
 
2013-01-06 09:49:22 PM  

CaptSS: jmr61: gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

If by tragedy you mean the death of the POS criminal (10 arrests in 6 years!) I'm not seeing it. Him being killed in the street by someone he viciously attacked is not tragedy. It's justice.

I agree. What tragedy? Another comment in this thread states they hope the suspect thinks long and hard about what he did. Based on the report that the suspect has 10 prior arrests with many of them being assault charges and violent threats, that isn't going to happen and at what point do we say enough is enough? It's not about being an ITG, it's about being able to protect yourself against a violent thug who has intentions of harming you. And for those that say it was just a pellet gun, do a Google search and see how much they look like a real firearm. So here you are in a dimly lit parking lot with that pointed at you, do you just stand there and take it when you have the chance to stop the threat and perhaps save your own life? Mohammed had two perfectly moral and legal options to this attack - do nothing or stop the assailant. I would have no problem had Mohammed chosen to stop the attack by shooting the suspect. In fact I am kind of sorry he didn't shoot his attacker. He may have done this asshole's next victim a favor.

With that being said I am now ready for the liberals to point out how wrong I am.


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In all seriousness, though, the averted tragedy was the non-zero chance that Mohammed might have missed Quinnell and hit the innocent bystander:

After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

And if that happened, Mohammed's fate would have been identical to what I described earlier: arrest and facing either the death penalty or life in prison without parole, summary execution on the scene, or "suicide."
 
2013-01-06 09:49:46 PM  

WhyteRaven74: And this, is justice. Shooting and likely killing the guy would just be vengeance not justice. And vengeance gets you nowhere.


If he shot the guy in the back as he scurried off? Yeah that'd be wrong. He was in danger of being blinded though (some of the pellets have to be surgically removed so they hit fairly hard). Remember legal justification for using lethal force is death or serious injury, so shooting him wouldn't have been out of the question, especially if the guy continued the attack rather than fleeing. That might seem like overkill to to us reading about it in hindsight, but it's a tougher decision to make when it's happening to you and you don't know how far the attack will go.
 
2013-01-06 09:50:08 PM  

uncleacid: I think Gandhi would have shot him.


Oh yeah, Gandhi would have blown his freakin' head off - KAPLOOSH!! Few people actually realize what an ill-tempered on-edge hunter/marksman Gandhi was.
No, you didn't want to cross Gandhi.
 
2013-01-06 09:50:16 PM  
Cameron Mohammed knew better than to be a minority and shoot someone (even in self defense) in Florida.
 
2013-01-06 09:50:43 PM  

WhyteRaven74: And this, is justice. Shooting and likely killing the guy would just be vengeance not justice. And vengeance gets you nowhere.


Got you in green, man, 'cause you say stuff like this.
 
2013-01-06 09:51:34 PM  

Salmon: Who packs a bb gun?


I bet it was a semiautomatic assault BB gun.
 
2013-01-06 09:52:14 PM  
A boot to the head would have sufficed.
 
2013-01-06 09:57:41 PM  

gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


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2013-01-06 09:57:53 PM  

Hector Remarkable: uncleacid: I think Gandhi would have shot him.

Oh yeah, Gandhi would have blown his freakin' head off - KAPLOOSH!! Few people actually realize what an ill-tempered on-edge hunter/marksman Gandhi was.
No, you didn't want to cross Gandhi.


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No more passive resistance! A one man wrecking crew!
 
2013-01-06 09:58:13 PM  

King Something: Parthenogenetic: I wonder, if Cameron Mohammed had gotten angry and shot Daniel Quinnell, would Fox News and World Net Daily have cried foul at the "black Muslim shooting an American under questionable circumstances"?

Absolutely.

On top of that, Mohammed would have been arrested and be on trial now facing either the death penalty (if Quinnell had been killed) or life without parole (if Quinnell survived) -- unless he was executed on the scene by the cops, or "committed suicide" in the back of the police car by shooting himself in the head multiple times with a double-action revolver while handcuffed.


This is Florida, none of that would have happened.
 
2013-01-06 09:59:17 PM  
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Didn't realize until today that this is the same person.
 
2013-01-06 10:00:57 PM  
"Tho' I've belted you and flayed you,
By the livin' Gawd that made you,
You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din!"
 
2013-01-06 10:01:10 PM  
Let's play Hogan's Alley. Put a pair of sunglasses on to simulate nighttime. After looking at the picture you have .5 seconds to decide which is a pellet gun and which is a firearm and whether you think the thug is going to kill you. (And yes one is a .22 and one is a pellet gun.)
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Victim had every right to fire at the suspect as soon as he saw him point the weapon at him. I highly doubt a Grand Jury would indict the victim. Now, if he shot at him while he was fleeing, yeah maybe - but not at the point of confrontation.
 
2013-01-06 10:02:56 PM  
I would have shot him in the foot, and no regrets. And yes I can do that.
 
2013-01-06 10:04:28 PM  
Im not so quick to call him a hero. If someone is shooting you in the face with a pellet gun, how the hell are you supposed to know theyre not trying to kill you? Ive been around unexpected gunfire and its easy to think it's not real. It sounds to me like the dude froze suffering from normalcy bias and just got lucky the bullets were air pellets and not from a real firearm. It's more likely the case rather than actually him thinking it through and keeping his cool, contemplating risks, etc and then deciding against shooting the assailant because "the assailant could turn his life around someday"
Just sayin'
 
2013-01-06 10:05:56 PM  
Yeah, I'm calling BS on this story. It's BS.
 
2013-01-06 10:08:44 PM  
Should have shot him. The IQ of the entire country would have gone up just a tiny little bit.
 
2013-01-06 10:09:17 PM  

walkerhound: gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.

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It DOES mean what he thinks it means -- it means most people would have taken the risk of shooting an innocent bystander.

NowhereMon: King Something: Parthenogenetic: I wonder, if Cameron Mohammed had gotten angry and shot Daniel Quinnell, would Fox News and World Net Daily have cried foul at the "black Muslim shooting an American under questionable circumstances"?

Absolutely.

On top of that, Mohammed would have been arrested and be on trial now facing either the death penalty (if Quinnell had been killed) or life without parole (if Quinnell survived) -- unless he was executed on the scene by the cops, or "committed suicide" in the back of the police car by shooting himself in the head multiple times with a double-action revolver while handcuffed.

This is Florida, none of that would have happened.


I'm not nearly as confident as you in the life expectancy or the quality-of-life expectancy of a black Muslim who shot and either killed or seriously injured a white guy (or a bystander while trying to shoot that white guy) in a metro area and state run by Teabaggers.
 
2013-01-06 10:09:19 PM  
Quinnell sounds like a real winner:

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2013-01-06 10:09:29 PM  
"Hero" tag on vacation, subby? Because Conor Mohammed deserves it.
 
2013-01-06 10:09:45 PM  

WTF Indeed: Why shoot him when you can pistol whip the f*ck out of the man?


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2013-01-06 10:13:07 PM  

poe_zlaw: Im not so quick to call him a hero. If someone is shooting you in the face with a pellet gun, how the hell are you supposed to know theyre not trying to kill you? Ive been around unexpected gunfire and its easy to think it's not real. It sounds to me like the dude froze suffering from normalcy bias and just got lucky the bullets were air pellets and not from a real firearm. It's more likely the case rather than actually him thinking it through and keeping his cool, contemplating risks, etc and then deciding against shooting the assailant because "the assailant could turn his life around someday"
Just sayin'


That's exactly how I pictured the situation. A quick attack with the suspect fleeing before the victim could accurately assess and respond.
 
2013-01-06 10:15:30 PM  

gilgigamesh: After taking two pellets to his head and neck, Mohammed stands and watches the man flee, then notices a bystander who could have been hit if Mohammed had taken a shot. His hand is on his gun. But it stays in the holster.

A rare example of a responsible gun owner. Most people in this situation probably would have caused a tragedy here.


F you...please site some specifics, other than your lib opinion.
 
2013-01-06 10:16:29 PM  
From TFA:
"Mohammed will have surgery to remove a few of the pellets, and the most lasting pain will be the trauma of being the victim of a hate crime - one in which he was shot in the face for being something that he isn't."

Doesn't every hate crime victim suffer for something they aren't? (i.e. a stereotype)
 
2013-01-06 10:16:35 PM  

Irving Maimway: Cameron Mohammed is a better man than I am.


If he had just wasted that racist skidmark, I would probably have been OK with it, and this realization makes me upset with myself. Time to do some thinking.
 
2013-01-06 10:16:56 PM  

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Adorable.
 
2013-01-06 10:16:57 PM  
The point everyone is missing is that this is a criminal who was actually obeying the "criminals can't have guns" law.

See? It totally works!
 
2013-01-06 10:18:58 PM  

Irving Maimway: Cameron Mohammed is a better man than I am.

 
2013-01-06 10:19:26 PM  

JerkStore: The point everyone is missing is that this is a criminal who was actually obeying the "criminals can't have guns" law.

See? It totally works!


Giggled.
 
2013-01-06 10:20:41 PM  
Somehow I doubt that your everyday klansman is gonna view Daniel Quinnell as a "white guy".
 
2013-01-06 10:22:40 PM  
Quinnell shot him at close range with a gas-propelled pellet gun while saying "n----- with a white girl."

What is this, 1950?
 
2013-01-06 10:26:17 PM  
FTFA: "Mohammed will have surgery to remove a few of the pellets, and the most lasting pain will be the trauma of being the victim of a hate crime - one in which he was shot in the face for being something that he isn't."

What the fark does it matter whether he is or isn't a Muslim? How does that make the slightest farking difference? How did this excrement make it past an editor?

Fark, some "journalists" are dumb.
 
2013-01-06 10:28:18 PM  

AssAsInAssassin: FTFA: "Mohammed will have surgery to remove a few of the pellets, and the most lasting pain will be the trauma of being the victim of a hate crime - one in which he was shot in the face for being something that he isn't."

What the fark does it matter whether he is or isn't a Muslim? How does that make the slightest farking difference? How did this excrement make it past an editor?

Fark, some "journalists" are dumb.


The way I read it it sounds like the author is trying to say it would somehow be better if he is a Muslim. Not sure if that is his intent, but that is how that sentence comes off.
 
2013-01-06 10:30:06 PM  

poorjon: Irving Maimway: Cameron Mohammed is a better man than I am.

If he had just wasted that racist skidmark, I would probably have been OK with it, and this realization makes me upset with myself. Time to do some thinking.


Don't be. Said racist skidmark got way better than he deserved. He pulled (as far as the victim knew) a deadly weapon without provocation. Don't play with fire if you aren't prepared to get burned.

/Pellet guns can kill. Maybe not as lethal as firearms, but it does happen from time to time.
 
2013-01-06 10:31:17 PM  
Does it matter what you are or who you are?
 
2013-01-06 10:32:45 PM  
I think he knew it was a air gun I have been told stop or I will shoot, and in less than one sec after I heard the airgun go off I was running It prolly took him 2 sec to realize it was a air gun and the next 2 to realize that he chose not to use lethal force
 
2013-01-06 10:33:10 PM  

JerkStore: The point everyone is missing is that this is a criminal who was actually obeying the "criminals can't have guns" law.

See? It totally works!


Yep, if he's picked up by the police.....he can use that as an excuse - "It's not a real gun"....but you can bet this jackwad has waved it around at least once or twice to show someone he's "got a real gun".
 
2013-01-06 10:33:20 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: AssAsInAssassin: FTFA: "Mohammed will have surgery to remove a few of the pellets, and the most lasting pain will be the trauma of being the victim of a hate crime - one in which he was shot in the face for being something that he isn't."

What the fark does it matter whether he is or isn't a Muslim? How does that make the slightest farking difference? How did this excrement make it past an editor?

Fark, some "journalists" are dumb.

The way I read it it sounds like the author is trying to say it would somehow be better if he is a Muslim. Not sure if that is his intent, but that is how that sentence comes off.


Jesus, fcuikn relax you two. News article/ editor police are worse than the grammar police. He told you a story. You got the information from it. Quit crying about what else he says. Go get yourself a pulitzer if you're so fcuikng good.
 
2013-01-06 10:33:42 PM  

TwoBeersOneCan: I suppose he could have shot him in the knee or something. Kudos for him for not taking a life, though.


I used to be a racist like Daniel Quinnell, then I took a .45 slug in the knee.
 
2013-01-06 10:38:00 PM  
CSB time

My dad was a postal worker. While carrying mail in an apartment complex one day a 17 year old from a 2nd story shot him with a pellet rifle. It went in through his rib cage and was only a few inches from puncturing his lung. Well the police didn't take it to serious and some how the kid got let go. Fast foward a few years and the guy ended up killing 3 women and was on the run for 15+ years
 
2013-01-06 10:38:22 PM  

spacelord321: poe_zlaw: Im not so quick to call him a hero. If someone is shooting you in the face with a pellet gun, how the hell are you supposed to know theyre not trying to kill you? Ive been around unexpected gunfire and its easy to think it's not real. It sounds to me like the dude froze suffering from normalcy bias and just got lucky the bullets were air pellets and not from a real firearm. It's more likely the case rather than actually him thinking it through and keeping his cool, contemplating risks, etc and then deciding against shooting the assailant because "the assailant could turn his life around someday"
Just sayin'

That's exactly how I pictured the situation. A quick attack with the suspect fleeing before the victim could accurately assess and respond.



Yeah, had the victim been someone with a decent amount of training (cop, etc), you can bet the asshat would have left in the coroner's car.
 
2013-01-06 10:38:53 PM  
You defend your self with deadly force to prevent a forceable felony.

As defined in FL:

776.08 Forcible felony.

"Forcible felony" means treason; murder; manslaughter; sexual battery; carjacking; home-invasion robbery; robbery; burglary; arson; kidnapping; aggravated assault; aggravated battery; aggravated stalking; aircraft piracy; unlawful throwing, placing, or discharging of a destructive device or bomb; and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual.

I think being attacked with pellet gun would be an aggravated assault, so he would be able to kill the guy and not be prosecuted.

But as all concealed carry permit holders know, you only fire as a last resort, as killing someone under any circumstance is a major hassle and would at least cost you a few thousand dollars in legal defense. Not to mention the emotional trauma associated with talking a life.
 
2013-01-06 10:39:30 PM  

sloshed_again: Does it matter what you are or who you are?



Depends.

Who's asking?
 
2013-01-06 10:39:50 PM  
I have a buddy who is a shrink for the state. He tells me a lot of stories, without violating any privacy laws, about shenanigans with convicts and dopers. On a nearly daily basis he is forced to put lunatics back on the street (they have rights too, you know).

This guy sounds like he is schizophrenic. Seriously disturbed at any rate. This isn't a hate-crime so much as another example of a failed mental-health system.
 
2013-01-06 10:40:25 PM  
Not arguing for shooting anyone, ever, but if you're not willing to draw and fire on someone, you should not be carrying a firearm.

/I'll never be carrying one
 
2013-01-06 10:42:54 PM  

Plant Rights Activist: AssAsInAssassin: FTFA: "Mohammed will have surgery to remove a few of the pellets, and the most lasting pain will be the trauma of being the victim of a hate crime - one in which he was shot in the face for being something that he isn't."

What the fark does it matter whether he is or isn't a Muslim? How does that make the slightest farking difference? How did this excrement make it past an editor?

Fark, some "journalists" are dumb.

The way I read it it sounds like the author is trying to say it would somehow be better if he is a Muslim. Not sure if that is his intent, but that is how that sentence comes off.


I more took it as showing how stupid and ignorant the shooter is; he can't even target the right people of his racism.
 
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