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2013-01-06 08:19:15 PM  
As this plays out, and living next to New Jersey and under another "non-partisan" elected official (All Hail Bloomberg, Lord and Master of the Soda Fountain!) I am less convinced of the legitimacy of the endeavor.  If one wants to be elected in the coming cycle, the best possible place to be is a Republican who is not "Republican".    Look, there is a lot to be said for a fiscal conservative, socially liberal candidate, but I am not entirely sure Chris Christie is that guy.
 
2013-01-06 08:31:09 PM  

Ennuipoet: As this plays out, and living next to New Jersey and under another "non-partisan" elected official (All Hail Bloomberg, Lord and Master of the Soda Fountain!) I am less convinced of the legitimacy of the endeavor.  If one wants to be elected in the coming cycle, the best possible place to be is a Republican who is not "Republican".    Look, there is a lot to be said for a fiscal conservative, socially liberal candidate, but I am not entirely sure Chris Christie is that guy.


He isnt.Sure, he has done a couple of good things, but the way he handled the lgbt marriage issue certainly doesnt paint him as socially liberal.
 
2013-01-06 08:35:23 PM  

alienated: He isnt.Sure, he has done a couple of good things, but the way he handled the lgbt marriage issue certainly doesnt paint him as socially liberal.


I think Christie wants to run on 2016 and needs to walk a fine line, he is going to need to spend the next four years running left to make me even THINK about him.
 
2013-01-06 08:42:57 PM  

Ennuipoet: I think Christie wants to run on 2016 and needs to walk a fine line, he is going to need to spend the next four years running left to make me even THINK about him.


I'm sure he'll run left for a very short time, then slow down, get winded, and call a cab.
 
2013-01-06 08:43:04 PM  
He is just a plain vanilla asshat, which is refreshing. I guess.
 
2013-01-06 08:57:01 PM  
Chris Christie continues to show how a politician can do their damn job without becoming partisan ass hats

What a singular headline
 
2013-01-06 09:00:00 PM  
Or Chris Christie continues to show his The Reasonable One strategy for 2016.
 
2013-01-06 09:00:55 PM  
The week before the storm, he was giving speeches for Romney about how Obama wasn't a leader and had no leadership qualities. Those qualities suddenly appeared when Obama didn't act like a partisan asshat and provided aid to New Jersey without hesitation.

In other words, Christie only dropped the partisan act when it helped him, and it will come back the second he gets reelected, just in time to start railing against the next Democratic nominee.

Don't be deluded for a second to think Obama won't suddenly lose those leadership qualities if Christie thinks the polling reaches 50%+1.
 
2013-01-06 09:16:24 PM  
So's he a candidate willing to throw his weight around.
 
2013-01-06 09:22:40 PM  
Honestly, I'm more than sick of this from Christie and King et al. Shut the fark up. You belong to a political party which systematically and ideologically denies helping people who have been struck by hardship and disaster? Got cancer? Fark you. House burned down? Fark you. Lost your job because of an economic collapse you had nothing to do with? Fark you.

But oh, something happens in YOUR district, and all the sudden you are going nuts and demanding the government help? Blow flakes you parochial pieces of shiat. Those people do deserve help, but you don't deserve any righteous indignation.
 
2013-01-06 09:27:24 PM  

DamnYankees: Honestly, I'm more than sick of this from Christie and King et al. Shut the fark up. You belong to a political party which systematically and ideologically denies helping people who have been struck by hardship and disaster? Got cancer? Fark you. House burned down? Fark you. Lost your job because of an economic collapse you had nothing to do with? Fark you.

But oh, something happens in YOUR district, and all the sudden you are going nuts and demanding the government help? Blow flakes you parochial pieces of shiat. Those people do deserve help, but you don't deserve any righteous indignation.


yup
 
2013-01-06 09:28:03 PM  

LordOfThePings: Chris Christie continues to show how a politician can do their damn job without becoming partisan ass hats

What a singular headline


I see what you did there.
 
2013-01-06 09:30:36 PM  

DamnYankees: Honestly, I'm more than sick of this from Christie and King et al. Shut the fark up. You belong to a political party which systematically and ideologically denies helping people who have been struck by hardship and disaster? Got cancer? Fark you. House burned down? Fark you. Lost your job because of an economic collapse you had nothing to do with? Fark you.

But oh, something happens in YOUR district, and all the sudden you are going nuts and demanding the government help? Blow flakes you parochial pieces of shiat. Those people do deserve help, but you don't deserve any righteous indignation.


I'm not saying I think Christie is a great guy, but please consider two points:

1. He didn't just ask for help; he did was he should have done to try and secure aid for those he represents, and he did so in a non-partisan fashion by working with the President, et al.

2. People posture and whine all day long, but how they act when "sh*t gets real" reveals a lot about them personally and how they really are. See point #1.
 
2013-01-06 09:35:27 PM  

Sid_6.7: 2. People posture and whine all day long, but how they act when "sh*t gets real" reveals a lot about them personally and how they really are. See point #1.


This elides the point, though. The reality is that shiat "gets real" for people in New Jersey every day. They get cancer. They lose their house. They lose their job. But Christie doesn't give a shiat about that - he doesn't support the federal government giving them health care or job support. And even if he does support those things (just for arguments sake), he is a member of a party absolutely devoted to opposing those things.

So why does Christie care so much about this issue? Because he saw it with his own two eyes? Great empathy there, asshole.
 
2013-01-06 09:45:36 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: So's he a candidate willing to throw his weight around.


Seriously, knock off the farking fat jokes already everyone. It's childish.
 
2013-01-06 10:15:16 PM  
I think he's betting that he can win the primaries without the Tea Party.  Unless they stage a comeback between now and then, he may be right.
 
2013-01-06 10:28:33 PM  

DamnYankees: So why does Christie care so much about this issue? Because he saw it with his own two eyes? Great empathy there, asshole.


Well yes but some people are just kind of dense like that. It is possible that seeing that devastation first hand has changed him to some degree. Often experiences like that can make one somewhat fearless.  The story that is not reported nationally is that Christie is having very serious budget issues. His state is broke - in large part because so much of NJ state money goes to the fed.

The area took a real economic hit with Sandy which only exacerbated the budget issue. That money the senate authorized would have kept NJ solvent. It is small wonder that he was incandescent with rage.

He is, if nothing else, shrewd and it is clearly in his best interest to distance himself as much as possible from those idiots that wont send relief money after a major disaster to thousands of potential donors.
 
2013-01-06 10:28:42 PM  
Let's see what he does (and how successful he is) in a Republican primary against the herpiderpitudinals he is sure to face.
 
2013-01-06 11:25:49 PM  
I love the article's troll-rific headline: "Chris Christie: Political calculator? Or just doing his job?"

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You Cant Explain That: DamnYankees: Honestly, I'm more than sick of this from Christie and King et al. Shut the fark up. You belong to a political party which systematically and ideologically denies helping people who have been struck by hardship and disaster? Got cancer? Fark you. House burned down? Fark you. Lost your job because of an economic collapse you had nothing to do with? Fark you.

But oh, something happens in YOUR district, and all the sudden you are going nuts and demanding the government help? Blow flakes you parochial pieces of shiat. Those people do deserve help, but you don't deserve any righteous indignation.

yup


Jon Stewart crushed him on that when he had him on recently. Family member gets cancer? That's Hurricane Sandy.
 
2013-01-06 11:39:14 PM  
Unless he does a 180 on gay marriage, he can still go fark himself with a rusty rake.

I'm willing to compromise on lots of issues. Civil rights and institutionalized dehumanization aren't among them.
 
2013-01-06 11:40:59 PM  

GAT_00: The week before the storm, he was giving speeches for Romney about how Obama wasn't a leader and had no leadership qualities. Those qualities suddenly appeared when Obama didn't act like a partisan asshat and provided aid to New Jersey without hesitation.

In other words, Christie only dropped the partisan act when it helped him, and it will come back the second he gets reelected, just in time to start railing against the next Democratic nominee.

Don't be deluded for a second to think Obama won't suddenly lose those leadership qualities if Christie thinks the polling reaches 50%+1.


Why was obama "not acting like a partisan asshat" in providing aid to new jersey? Why would a partisan asshat democrat deny aid to new jersey? Nj's a blue state and dems like to spend money.
 
2013-01-06 11:41:11 PM  

Ennuipoet: As this plays out, and living next to New Jersey and under another "non-partisan" elected official (All Hail Bloomberg, Lord and Master of the Soda Fountain!) I am less convinced of the legitimacy of the endeavor.  If one wants to be elected in the coming cycle, the best possible place to be is a Republican who is not "Republican".    Look, there is a lot to be said for a fiscal conservative, socially liberal candidate, but I am not entirely sure Chris Christie is that guy.


What do you call a fiscal conservative who's socially liberal?

A Democrat.
 
2013-01-06 11:45:44 PM  

quickdraw: DamnYankees: So why does Christie care so much about this issue? Because he saw it with his own two eyes? Great empathy there, asshole.

Well yes but some people are just kind of dense like that. It is possible that seeing that devastation first hand has changed him to some degree. Often experiences like that can make one somewhat fearless.  The story that is not reported nationally is that Christie is having very serious budget issues. His state is broke - in large part because so much of NJ state money goes to the fed.

The area took a real economic hit with Sandy which only exacerbated the budget issue. That money the senate authorized would have kept NJ solvent. It is small wonder that he was incandescent with rage.

He is, if nothing else, shrewd and it is clearly in his best interest to distance himself as much as possible from those idiots that wont send relief money after a major disaster to thousands of potential donors.


He is very shrewd, and I'm only half kidding when I joke that fat politicians from New Jersey shouldn't be trifled with. Christie is looking more and more like an old-school politician in the mold of Richard Daley (and yeah, I know Daley was a Democrat so STFU) or perhaps LaGuardia--not quite corrupt, but very deft at playing both sides of the aisle in order to benefit himself AND his constituents. Benign dictators are the most dangerous kind, because they get shiat done and their people love and fear them--because they get shiat done.

He may genuinely have had a change of heart; it's just as likely that THIS is his true self and the Obama-bashing before the election was a sop to the GOP. What will count is how he comports himself in the next four years. Should be an interesting ride.
 
2013-01-06 11:49:50 PM  
Chris Christie was a partisan asshat before and I doubt he's really changed.
 
2013-01-06 11:50:29 PM  

DamnYankees: Honestly, I'm more than sick of this from Christie and King et al. Shut the fark up. You belong to a political party which systematically and ideologically denies helping people who have been struck by hardship and disaster? Got cancer? Fark you. House burned down? Fark you. Lost your job because of an economic collapse you had nothing to do with? Fark you.


Pretty much. Unless he's willing to repudiate his Party's platform positions on abortion and gay marriage (among other things) I'm not voting for his lily white ass.
 
2013-01-06 11:52:38 PM  

Gyrfalcon: He is very shrewd, and I'm only half kidding when I joke that fat politicians from New Jersey shouldn't be trifled with. Christie is looking more and more like an old-school politician in the mold of Richard Daley (and yeah, I know Daley was a Democrat so STFU) or perhaps LaGuardia--not quite corrupt, but very deft at playing both sides of the aisle in order to benefit himself AND his constituents. Benign dictators are the most dangerous kind, because they get shiat done and their people love and fear them--because they get shiat done.


You remembered Daley and LaGuardia but you forgot the most benevolent of dictators - Huey Long.
 
2013-01-06 11:56:17 PM  
Jesus Christ that guy is fat.
 
2013-01-06 11:56:22 PM  

DamnYankees: Got cancer? Fark you. House burned down? Fark you. Lost your job because of an economic collapse you had nothing to do with?


How should other peoples houses burning down and other people losing their job be handled?
 
2013-01-06 11:58:06 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Gyrfalcon: He is very shrewd, and I'm only half kidding when I joke that fat politicians from New Jersey shouldn't be trifled with. Christie is looking more and more like an old-school politician in the mold of Richard Daley (and yeah, I know Daley was a Democrat so STFU) or perhaps LaGuardia--not quite corrupt, but very deft at playing both sides of the aisle in order to benefit himself AND his constituents. Benign dictators are the most dangerous kind, because they get shiat done and their people love and fear them--because they get shiat done.

You remembered Daley and LaGuardia but you forgot the most benevolent of dictators - Huey Long.


On the up-side, Christie is term-limited, to two terms.
 
2013-01-07 12:00:57 AM  

UNC_Samurai: Gyrfalcon: He is very shrewd, and I'm only half kidding when I joke that fat politicians from New Jersey shouldn't be trifled with. Christie is looking more and more like an old-school politician in the mold of Richard Daley (and yeah, I know Daley was a Democrat so STFU) or perhaps LaGuardia--not quite corrupt, but very deft at playing both sides of the aisle in order to benefit himself AND his constituents. Benign dictators are the most dangerous kind, because they get shiat done and their people love and fear them--because they get shiat done.

You remembered Daley and LaGuardia but you forgot the most benevolent of dictators - Huey Long.


Did he hold elected office? My bad, I thought he was just a dark force behind the throne like Boss Tweed.
 
2013-01-07 12:01:21 AM  

Gyrfalcon: quickdraw: DamnYankees: So why does Christie care so much about this issue? Because he saw it with his own two eyes? Great empathy there, asshole.

Well yes but some people are just kind of dense like that. It is possible that seeing that devastation first hand has changed him to some degree. Often experiences like that can make one somewhat fearless.  The story that is not reported nationally is that Christie is having very serious budget issues. His state is broke - in large part because so much of NJ state money goes to the fed.

The area took a real economic hit with Sandy which only exacerbated the budget issue. That money the senate authorized would have kept NJ solvent. It is small wonder that he was incandescent with rage.

He is, if nothing else, shrewd and it is clearly in his best interest to distance himself as much as possible from those idiots that wont send relief money after a major disaster to thousands of potential donors.

He is very shrewd, and I'm only half kidding when I joke that fat politicians from New Jersey shouldn't be trifled with. Christie is looking more and more like an old-school politician in the mold of Richard Daley (and yeah, I know Daley was a Democrat so STFU) or perhaps LaGuardia--not quite corrupt, but very deft at playing both sides of the aisle in order to benefit himself AND his constituents. Benign dictators are the most dangerous kind, because they get shiat done and their people love and fear them--because they get shiat done.

He may genuinely have had a change of heart; it's just as likely that THIS is his true self and the Obama-bashing before the election was a sop to the GOP. What will count is how he comports himself in the next four years. Should be an interesting ride.


QFT. People can change. If Christie's up for changing, that's what matters. His prior behavior is interesting, but if he sticks to a new path...
 
2013-01-07 12:02:00 AM  
Hey New Jersey, yo' governa's so fat he reaches all the way over to the other aide of the aisle.
 
2013-01-07 12:03:04 AM  
He can do whatever he wants to try to position himself for 2016, but this country ain't electing a fat guy to the White House. Black guy, sure. Fat guy? Unlikely. We've had fat guys before, but it was less unseemly back then. Rational is good, but you need better packaging.
 
2013-01-07 12:09:13 AM  

GhostFish: Unless he does a 180 on gay marriage, he can still go fark himself with a rusty rake.

I'm willing to compromise on lots of issues. Civil rights and institutionalized dehumanization aren't among them.


Obama only recently alluded to accepting gay marriage. Christie has almost 4 years to think about what he will say a month before the election.
 
2013-01-07 12:13:16 AM  

JerkStore: Rational is good, but you need better packaging.


He also need to work a little harder on being rational.

Gyrfalcon: Did he hold elected office? My bad, I thought he was just a dark force behind the throne like Boss Tweed.


Huey was elected. As was his brother, Earl K., if I remember correctly.
 
2013-01-07 12:14:55 AM  
Chris Christie has been a terrible governor. No offense, but you just can't trust Democrats in office - maybe a Republican will replace him in 2013 so we can see how to really govern a state?
 
2013-01-07 12:18:09 AM  
After Christie tongue-lashed Boehner...

Couldn't help but laugh. I am a child.
 
2013-01-07 12:18:25 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: Ennuipoet: As this plays out, and living next to New Jersey and under another "non-partisan" elected official (All Hail Bloomberg, Lord and Master of the Soda Fountain!) I am less convinced of the legitimacy of the endeavor.  If one wants to be elected in the coming cycle, the best possible place to be is a Republican who is not "Republican".    Look, there is a lot to be said for a fiscal conservative, socially liberal candidate, but I am not entirely sure Chris Christie is that guy.

What do you call a fiscal conservative who's socially liberal?

A Democrat Unicorn.

 
2013-01-07 12:20:22 AM  

GAT_00: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: So's he a candidate willing to throw his weight around.

Seriously, knock off the farking fat jokes already everyone. It's childish.


I agree. The bulk of farkers just don't get the gravity of their words. They lack a stoutness of character and corpulence of vocabulary, and just don't get how kindness can outweigh fatuous sarcasm. It weighs heavily on me.
 
2013-01-07 12:21:25 AM  
RINO
 
2013-01-07 12:25:39 AM  

skullkrusher: TofuTheAlmighty: Ennuipoet: As this plays out, and living next to New Jersey and under another "non-partisan" elected official (All Hail Bloomberg, Lord and Master of the Soda Fountain!) I am less convinced of the legitimacy of the endeavor.  If one wants to be elected in the coming cycle, the best possible place to be is a Republican who is not "Republican".    Look, there is a lot to be said for a fiscal conservative, socially liberal candidate, but I am not entirely sure Chris Christie is that guy.

What do you call a fiscal conservative who's socially liberal?

A Democrat Unicorn.


We used to call them Rockefeller Republicans until they were all chased out of the party.
 
2013-01-07 12:26:02 AM  

robsul82: Or Chris Christie continues to show his The Reasonable One strategy for 2016.


This. I will say as a liberal he worries me, because he can, at times, come across as. . .well, as a guy you'd like to have a beer with. If this was 20-24 years ago, it wouldn't, but because of the weird, evil, or batshiat crazy stuff the republicans have been pulling for the past 12 years or so, there's no way I'd vote for even the nicest, smartest, well-intentioned republican over a minimally-competent democrat. I don't want another branch in their hands,have the guy pull an Emperor Palpatine and go all dark-side once he's in office.

Besides, I think the conservative judges thinking of retirement are going to wait out Obama's second term. We really need another democratic presidential win in 2016 (at least) to swing the supreme court moderate. This HAS to happen.
 
2013-01-07 12:27:12 AM  
He's still a partisan asshat. He was on Morning Joke no more than a month before Hurricane Sandy absolutely lambasting President Obama for a perceived lack of "leadership" as if the President can just show up to the Senate and say "Hey guys, I'm leading now so stop filibustering everything, kthnxbye!".
 
2013-01-07 12:27:30 AM  

wjmorris3: Chris Christie has been a terrible governor. No offense, but you just can't trust Democrats in office - maybe a Republican will replace him in 2013 so we can see how to really govern a state?


Wat?
 
2013-01-07 12:32:49 AM  

This Face Left Blank: wjmorris3: Chris Christie has been a terrible governor. No offense, but you just can't trust Democrats in office - maybe a Republican will replace him in 2013 so we can see how to really govern a state?

Wat?


The piss-poor job he's doing governing, it's obvious he's a Democrat. Why not, y'know, actually go out and see that your state doesn't need any government money instead of sitting on your arse in your office and claiming the state needs disaster relief?
 
2013-01-07 12:33:02 AM  

steverockson: He's still a partisan asshat. He was on Morning Joke no more than a month before Hurricane Sandy absolutely lambasting President Obama for a perceived lack of "leadership" as if the President can just show up to the Senate and say "Hey guys, I'm leading now so stop filibustering everything, kthnxbye!".


Well he could call them to session for a state of the union every day and tell them they're farkwits. That's the sort of petty procedural bullshiat they respect.
 
2013-01-07 12:33:42 AM  

Mentat: skullkrusher: TofuTheAlmighty: Ennuipoet: As this plays out, and living next to New Jersey and under another "non-partisan" elected official (All Hail Bloomberg, Lord and Master of the Soda Fountain!) I am less convinced of the legitimacy of the endeavor.  If one wants to be elected in the coming cycle, the best possible place to be is a Republican who is not "Republican".    Look, there is a lot to be said for a fiscal conservative, socially liberal candidate, but I am not entirely sure Chris Christie is that guy.

What do you call a fiscal conservative who's socially liberal?

A Democrat Unicorn.

We used to call them Rockefeller Republicans until they were all chased out of the party.


chased out of the country is more like it.
 
2013-01-07 12:35:42 AM  

steverockson: He's still a partisan asshat. He was on Morning Joke no more than a month before Hurricane Sandy absolutely lambasting President Obama for a perceived lack of "leadership" as if the President can just show up to the Senate and say "Hey guys, I'm leading now so stop filibustering everything, kthnxbye!".


well, that would mean he WAS a partisan asshat. He's been pretty effusive in his praise of BO and attacking the GOP with regards to Sandy. Self interest, perhaps, but he's attacking his own doods
 
2013-01-07 12:40:23 AM  

This Face Left Blank: This. I will say as a liberal he worries me, because he can, at times, come across as. . .well, as a guy you'd like to have a beer with.


Exactly.  He can win if he gets through the primary.  So we've just got to hope they'll step on their dick and nominate Rick Santorum or somebody because he's 100% Ideologically PureTM.
 
2013-01-07 12:41:39 AM  
Yawn, lemme know when he starts giving a shiat about people outside his state.

And gays.
 
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