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(Deadline)   Steve Carell is "unlikely to return" for the series finale of The Office. As long as we find out who the Scranton Strangler is, that's okay   (deadline.com) divider line 104
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2013-01-07 12:00:17 AM
who gives a shiat?

haven't seen this show since season two, and even then it was wearing thin.

as to the commenters who think steve carrell "owes" any kind of debt to the show: no, he doesn't. have you ever quit a job and felt any kind of fealty to it afterwards?
 
2013-01-07 12:08:22 AM

scarbachi: have you ever quit a job and felt any kind of fealty to it afterwards?


Yes, I have. Several, actually. Partially about not burning bridges, partially about realizing that someone (or some company) helped get me to where I am today.

//not that where I'm at is impressive, but still it took help to get here.
 
2013-01-07 12:09:42 AM
Toby is not the Scranton Strangler. The reason is that if he served on the jury and put away an innocent man, Toby, being the Scranton Strangler, would have no moral or ethical problems with it, just laugh that he sent an innocent man to prison for his crimes.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the series end kind of like how Blackadder ended most of their series, with most of the characters getting killed off. Have it where Dwight leaves to work the farm, Jim, Pam and Darrell leave for Philly with the camera crew filming from the parking lot as they drive away for the last time, then have the camera crew return to the office, everyone dead, blood everywhere, and Erin making some comment like "Oh, you're back already?" as she washes the blood off of her hands. Toby's final words caught on screen "She's the Scranton..."
 
2013-01-07 12:10:01 AM

Lsherm: Is Steve Carell really so busy he can't come back for one episode?


rbaron71: It's his call, but c'mon, even Clooney found time for a cameo on the finale of ER.


MayoSlather: The Daily Show made him popular, but The Office made him a star. He should show some reverence to the show and come back for at least a small cameo.


NeoCortex42: meteorite: His "schedule"? This is the show that made him famous. Being a dick about it means he will be fighting giant spiders like the Skipper!

It's like his cameo on Life's Too Short. Gervais is responsible for the show that made him a star, but the most he could be bothered to do was a Skype call.



i guess y'all must go to your old jobs any time they ask because they can't function without you and you owe it to them. right?? the time-based contract you used to have doesn't actually apply if you're an actor, BECUZ YOR RICH NOW or something?

It's like his cameo on Life's Too Short. Gervais is responsible for the show that made him a star, but the most he could be bothered to do was a Skype call.

are you Gervais' agent? you seem to really know what he wanted for that one scene.
 
2013-01-07 12:12:35 AM

mjbok: scarbachi: have you ever quit a job and felt any kind of fealty to it afterwards?

Yes, I have. Several, actually. Partially about not burning bridges, partially about realizing that someone (or some company) helped get me to where I am today.

//not that where I'm at is impressive, but still it took help to get here.


i'm all about helping out colleagues, but in my industry (software) you're not expected to show up to old job just to prove you're not an asshole to people who don't even know you. not sure why Carell is getting blasted for it.
 
2013-01-07 12:22:47 AM

Dwhaerter: I always hoped the Scranton Strangler was Toby, proving that Michael was always right to have a hatred of Toby. Plus it'd be kind of amazing that Toby served as a juror for a man wrongfully convicted of being the Strangler.

/It'll probably be Creed


I was hoping it would be Toby also.
 
2013-01-07 12:29:01 AM

scarbachi: i'm all about helping out colleagues, but in my industry (software) you're not expected to show up to old job just to prove you're not an asshole to people who don't even know you. not sure why Carell is getting blasted for it.


It's funny, because I'm in software, also. I'm guessing you're on the dev side, where I work on the design side. The market I'm in is very incestuous (figuratively) and you might work with the same group of people at several different places, plus you see people at conferences, so having any allies (for me) is always a good thing.

I think the reason Carell is getting blasted for it is because the show made him. Much like how Sarah Michelle Gellar still gets crap for her not bowing down to Buffy and Joss, people think that Carell has a professional debt there. Actually Sarah has a much better point than Carell as she was an emmy award winning actress before she slayed vampire 1, and that show got her very little professional respect.

Plus, it's not like Carell has been hitting it out of the park since he left the office. His biggest hits (non animated) were while he was there, not since he left.
 
2013-01-07 12:46:12 AM

scarbachi: i guess y'all must go to your old jobs any time they ask because they can't function without you and you owe it to them. right?? the time-based contract you used to have doesn't actually apply if you're an actor, BECUZ YOR RICH NOW or something?


I just thought it would be a nice gesture, Francis.  Characters on a show aren't like an office job.
 
2013-01-07 12:46:41 AM
I hope Jan is the strangler.  She was always an angry biatch, and I doubt any fans of the show would be mad if it was her.
 
2013-01-07 12:50:04 AM
The strangler is obviously Meredith.

Since she will sleep with any man, then every woman is THE OTHER WOMAN to her. And they must die.
 
2013-01-07 12:58:54 AM

WTF Indeed:

You mean like the end of the Christmas party in the original version?


I actually found the Christmas Party so jarringly discordant to the overall tone of the series that the only way I could reconcile it was to put the whole special down to the hallucinations of David Brent''s oxygen starved brain as he is slowly strangled to death hanging from the ceiling above his old desk.
 
2013-01-07 01:01:37 AM
I hope the Strangler is Michael, and you also find out he killed Holly. And I hope there is an epilogue at the end reminding people of all the things he did and that he didn't deserve a happy ending.
 
2013-01-07 01:09:36 AM

AdolfOliverPanties: I hope Jan is the strangler.  She was always an angry biatch, and I doubt any fans of the show would be mad if it was her.


My money is on Dwight's brother Mose for the same lame, "don't upset the fans" reason.
 
2013-01-07 01:23:48 AM

Dwhaerter: I always hoped the Scranton Strangler was Toby, proving that Michael was always right to have a hatred of Toby. Plus it'd be kind of amazing that Toby served as a juror for a man wrongfully convicted of being the Strangler.

/It'll probably be Creed


Why have it be just one person? Why not Creed and Gabe, neither aware of the other's existence?
 
2013-01-07 02:26:36 AM

WTF Indeed: TheManofPA: I love Tim's ending in the original. That's how you give the audience what it wants but without complete pandering.

But pandering is what American TV audiences love.


Pandering is what all audiences love, it's just called something else in other cultures. Japanese call it fan service.
 
2013-01-07 03:14:36 AM

Great Janitor: Toby is not the Scranton Strangler. The reason is that if he served on the jury and put away an innocent man, Toby, being the Scranton Strangler, would have no moral or ethical problems with it, just laugh that he sent an innocent man to prison for his crimes."


Not if he's schizophrenic
 
2013-01-07 04:57:21 AM

President Merkin Muffley: WTF Indeed: President Merkin Muffley: Someone that consistently votes against their own best interest is beyond reason?

You're that special kind of retarded aren't you?

It seems to me that people usually attack those more intelligent than themselves as "Retarded". I'm usre you were a big man on the playground but around here you can go fark yourself.


This sentence makes little sense. None, really.
 
2013-01-07 05:47:46 AM
I'd love for it to somehow be Angela since she's so repressed and angry, however since strangulation usually requires some sort of upper body strength I'm guessing that it's a man or a strong woman.

It would be cool if it was some minor character like Padge/Madge, one of the Stamford people who quit in the merger, Tim Meadows, Will Ferrell, Jim Carrey, Charles Miner,or the kidnapped pizza delivery kid but I have a hard time seeing them go that route.

There are some characters that definitely have serious sketchy, morally-ambiguous and sociopathic qualities like Creed, Dwight, Todd Packer, Meredith, Ryan and James Spader. I would be surprised if it were any of them but it would be good to see them go that route.

The way that Andy's character has really veered into serious unlikability over the last year and his odd behavior it seems like they are setting it up for him to be the Scranton Strangler. Plus he's got all that repressed rage following his anger management training and his freaky romance with Angela.

Personally I'd like to find out it was the documentary cameraman.

/CSB: Visited the filming location for the Office in 2011. Funny that it's just an ordinary office you can drive to in Van Nuys. My wife, my daughter and I all had fun seeing the Dwight-mobile in the parking lot and the scene of so many crazy events like Michael's safety training on depression.
 
2013-01-07 07:13:17 AM
Last episode,

Jim finally leaves for his other job, pays well enough for Pam to stay home with the kids

Scranton finally shuts down after several years of near misses

everyone else takes jobs at Dwight's farm.
 
2013-01-07 07:22:44 AM
That show sucked anyway
 
2013-01-07 07:23:51 AM
The remainder of the show needs to focus on showcasing Erin's amazing hide-a-rack.
 
2013-01-07 07:39:08 AM
I cannot, cannot watch this show. I do not like.. I'm not sure what the word is. "Embarassment humor"? Awkward humor? As in... like, all of Steve's actions on the show? I just feel embarassed and uncomfortable or the characters, and the Office tends to cause me near physical pain.This sort of rules out most US sitcoms, I realize.

/Fiance likes the show.
//The Jim and Dwight interactions I was present for were entertaining, though.
 
2013-01-07 08:08:16 AM

scarbachi: i'm all about helping out colleagues, but in my industry (software) you're not expected to show up to old job just to prove you're not an asshole to people who don't even know you. not sure why Carell is getting blasted for it.


Because the entertainment/film industry would have the exact same culture and expectations as the software industry, amirite?
 
2013-01-07 08:14:21 AM
Carell hung in way longer than he should have, considering the show hasn't been funny since before Pam and Jim's wedding. I'm glad he's not coming back. I stopped watching quite a while ago (but tuned in for the Colbert episode, which was a waste of my life). Carell had the perfect sitcom exit. I'm glad he's not cashing in for one more episode. (you can imagine how much they offered to pay him)
 
2013-01-07 08:42:56 AM

kab: I did stop watching the show after Steve left the show, but caught up on everything recently. It still has it's moments, but lots of the writing now just seems like they don't know where to take things.


I think this current season has much more direction than the past few seasons, including the last few Michael Scott seasons. Season 5 felt like the new showrunners spent the entire time undoing the storylines brought up in season 4. Last season felt really directionless even if Michael was a completely pointless -or at the very least, unlikable- character for 3 seasons or so. There's certainly a sense of closure involving the current season. Honestly, if it weren't for Andy being entirely unlikable this season*, I would probably put this season closer in quality to the first 4 seasons.


*I've never really liked Andy, but his turn to unlikability is even more frustrating when everything else has pretty much improved is frustrating and generally grating.
 
2013-01-07 08:47:45 AM

President Merkin Muffley:
She's a female Republican. Don't attempt to reason with her.

Because that means what?

Someone that consistently votes against their own best interest is beyond reason?


Yes Skippy, because you can tell exactly what a woman's "interests" and political positions are simply based on her genitals:) I'm sure you've read all about it in the same manual they handed you with the Kool Aid pitcher. You're such a special boy.
 
2013-01-07 09:02:58 AM
My brother loves the show, I find it Awkward and annoying. That being said, I am hoping that they show Michael to be the strangler, and his office persona was all an act to throw people off the scent. He would reveal this while strapped to a gurney Hannibal lector style when they all go to visit him in the psych ward where he is being held awaiting trial.
 
2013-01-07 10:18:34 AM
xfinity.comcast.net

I read that Shelly Long is available, and that she approves.

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Carrell must be busy making another Oscar winning movie.
 
2013-01-07 10:25:13 AM

President Merkin Muffley: It's a ploy. Michael will be back for the finale and he is the strangler.


No, Michael is the Scranton Stomper.
 
2013-01-07 10:44:03 AM
If this was an actual documentary, the ending would surely give at least a short update of what happened to Michael Scott. It's not like Carell has to be there to film an entire episode, even just having a camera crew go to his house and have him say three lines would be enough.
 
2013-01-07 11:07:50 AM

Great Janitor: Toby is not the Scranton Strangler. The reason is that if he served on the jury and put away an innocent man, Toby, being the Scranton Strangler, would have no moral or ethical problems with it, just laugh that he sent an innocent man to prison for his crimes.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the series end kind of like how Blackadder ended most of their series, with most of the characters getting killed off. Have it where Dwight leaves to work the farm, Jim, Pam and Darrell leave for Philly with the camera crew filming from the parking lot as they drive away for the last time, then have the camera crew return to the office, everyone dead, blood everywhere, and Erin making some comment like "Oh, you're back already?" as she washes the blood off of her hands. Toby's final words caught on screen "She's the Scranton..."


I would forgive NBC for so much if they had the balls to do an ending like that. It would certainly be forever remembered along the same lines as the snow globe or Newhart endings.
 
2013-01-07 11:08:24 AM
I'd kind of wonder if it will end in a super meta way. With the "documentary" being aired or picked up as a series and all the members of the office becoming celebrities as a result.
 
2013-01-07 11:16:09 AM

scarbachi: mjbok: scarbachi: have you ever quit a job and felt any kind of fealty to it afterwards?

Yes, I have. Several, actually. Partially about not burning bridges, partially about realizing that someone (or some company) helped get me to where I am today.

//not that where I'm at is impressive, but still it took help to get here.

i'm all about helping out colleagues, but in my industry (software) you're not expected to show up to old job just to prove you're not an asshole to people who don't even know you. not sure why Carell is getting blasted for it.


Software and show-running, two apparently indistinguishable careers.
 
2013-01-07 11:28:47 AM

alphabet: I'd kind of wonder if it will end in a super meta way. With the "documentary" being aired or picked up as a series and all the members of the office becoming celebrities as a result.


The final episode should feature them sitting down to watch the documentary. The Office theme music starts up and it starts running the first episode, cut to commercial. Come back from commercial, with a week having passed, and they watch as they sit down to watch the recording they've been watching.

brightback.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-07 11:29:01 AM
2 things:

The Cheers finale sucked.
The Seinfeld finale sucked.
 
2013-01-07 11:51:54 AM

Great Janitor: Toby is not the Scranton Strangler. The reason is that if he served on the jury and put away an innocent man, Toby, being the Scranton Strangler, would have no moral or ethical problems with it, just laugh that he sent an innocent man to prison for his crimes.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the series end kind of like how Blackadder ended most of their series, with most of the characters getting killed off. Have it where Dwight leaves to work the farm, Jim, Pam and Darrell leave for Philly with the camera crew filming from the parking lot as they drive away for the last time, then have the camera crew return to the office, everyone dead, blood everywhere, and Erin making some comment like "Oh, you're back already?" as she washes the blood off of her hands. Toby's final words caught on screen "She's the Scranton..."


Damn. I WOULD WATCH THE HELL OUT OF THAT.
 
2013-01-07 11:57:01 AM
Did I miss an episode where it became a big deal who the strangler was?

I mean, Toby's been focused on it for a while, but is this something that's even being set up as a payoff?
 
2013-01-07 12:02:23 PM

you are a puppet: I hope the Strangler is Michael, and you also find out he killed Holly. And I hope there is an epilogue at the end reminding people of all the things he did and that he didn't deserve a happy ending.


sssuuucccchh aaaaasssss?

firing devon?
a few socially awkward moments that were bourne out of a genuinely good place?
 
2013-01-07 12:02:53 PM

NeoCortex42: meteorite: His "schedule"? This is the show that made him famous. Being a dick about it means he will be fighting giant spiders like the Skipper!

It's like his cameo on Life's Too Short. Gervais is responsible for the show that made him a star, but the most he could be bothered to do was a Skype call.


My favorite scene in that show. Up there with the Liam Neeson cameo.
 
2013-01-07 12:16:36 PM

alphabet: I'd kind of wonder if it will end in a super meta way. With the "documentary" being aired or picked up as a series and all the members of the office becoming celebrities as a result.


I believe Greg Daniels confirmed that the character will be watching the doc in the last few episodes or something.
 
2013-01-07 12:17:41 PM

havocmike: Did I miss an episode where it became a big deal who the strangler was?

I mean, Toby's been focused on it for a while, but is this something that's even being set up as a payoff?


If it hadn't been brought up at all this season, nobody would have cared about it. It was never an important subplot. However, they have been reminding us about the case quite a lot this year, and emphasizing how Toby is convinced the Strangler is still out there. So they are obviously playing up to a reveal of some sort at this point. In interviews, it's also been mentioned as something we are going to be finding out as the series wraps up, along with who is responsible for the documentary filming.
 
2013-01-07 12:27:04 PM

NeoCortex42: havocmike: Did I miss an episode where it became a big deal who the strangler was?

I mean, Toby's been focused on it for a while, but is this something that's even being set up as a payoff?

If it hadn't been brought up at all this season, nobody would have cared about it. It was never an important subplot. However, they have been reminding us about the case quite a lot this year, and emphasizing how Toby is convinced the Strangler is still out there. So they are obviously playing up to a reveal of some sort at this point. In interviews, it's also been mentioned as something we are going to be finding out as the series wraps up, along with who is responsible for the documentary filming.


Tim should be behind the actual filming. He got the idea from how he found his true love.
 
2013-01-07 12:36:12 PM

scarbachi: mjbok: scarbachi: have you ever quit a job and felt any kind of fealty to it afterwards?

Yes, I have. Several, actually. Partially about not burning bridges, partially about realizing that someone (or some company) helped get me to where I am today.

//not that where I'm at is impressive, but still it took help to get here.

i'm all about helping out colleagues, but in my industry (software) you're not expected to show up to old job just to prove you're not an asshole to people who don't even know you. not sure why Carell is getting blasted for it.


Its almost as if software and hollywood are two entirely different industries, with next to nothing in common.

Stop being an idiot, for your own sake.
 
2013-01-07 12:36:57 PM

NeoCortex42: havocmike: Did I miss an episode where it became a big deal who the strangler was?

I mean, Toby's been focused on it for a while, but is this something that's even being set up as a payoff?

If it hadn't been brought up at all this season, nobody would have cared about it. It was never an important subplot. However, they have been reminding us about the case quite a lot this year, and emphasizing how Toby is convinced the Strangler is still out there. So they are obviously playing up to a reveal of some sort at this point. In interviews, it's also been mentioned as something we are going to be finding out as the series wraps up, along with who is responsible for the documentary filming.


The Strangler has routinely been brought up throughout the last like five seasons.
 
2013-01-07 12:38:49 PM

Malcolm_Sex: NeoCortex42: havocmike: Did I miss an episode where it became a big deal who the strangler was?

I mean, Toby's been focused on it for a while, but is this something that's even being set up as a payoff?

If it hadn't been brought up at all this season, nobody would have cared about it. It was never an important subplot. However, they have been reminding us about the case quite a lot this year, and emphasizing how Toby is convinced the Strangler is still out there. So they are obviously playing up to a reveal of some sort at this point. In interviews, it's also been mentioned as something we are going to be finding out as the series wraps up, along with who is responsible for the documentary filming.

The Strangler has routinely been brought up throughout the last like five seasons.


I'm aware, but so have Angela's cats.
 
2013-01-07 12:54:59 PM

megalynn44: What is up with actors disrespecting the shows that made them a star? This is almost as bad as the Downton Abbey lead leaving for no farking reason and ruining the show.


You must be a very sensitive person to detect and level of "disrespect". FTFA: Today NBC boss Bob Greenblatt all but shut the door to that possibility. "We're hopeful but I don't think (Carell) will," Greenblatt said after the NBC executive session. "He left in the way he wanted to leave, and he and Greg talked about it, and I don't think he will. There's maybe a little Hail Mary pass on a cameo, but I think the decision would be compromising his schedule."

Doesn't sound like Steve is disrespecting the show... it sounds like he already had an agreement on how Michael would leave. Simple as that.
 
2013-01-07 12:56:27 PM

havocmike: Malcolm_Sex: NeoCortex42: havocmike: Did I miss an episode where it became a big deal who the strangler was?

I mean, Toby's been focused on it for a while, but is this something that's even being set up as a payoff?

If it hadn't been brought up at all this season, nobody would have cared about it. It was never an important subplot. However, they have been reminding us about the case quite a lot this year, and emphasizing how Toby is convinced the Strangler is still out there. So they are obviously playing up to a reveal of some sort at this point. In interviews, it's also been mentioned as something we are going to be finding out as the series wraps up, along with who is responsible for the documentary filming.

The Strangler has routinely been brought up throughout the last like five seasons.

I'm aware, but so have Angela's cats.


So they've had a several seasons long subplot involving Angela's cats that I'm unaware of? Toby has been unsure of his Verdict for like 3 seasons, it may be in the extreme background but they've been going back to it for awhile, not just pushing it this season.
 
2013-01-07 01:06:12 PM
I never thought of the Strangler as being a plotline, but it would be interesting to have it be one of the characters.

I was hoping Michael and Holly would come back for the finale to show off their twin babies, a boy and a girl.

And they were both black. Meanwhile, the camera cuts to Daryl, who is looking around nervously.
 
2013-01-07 05:55:09 PM

NeoCortex42: meteorite: His "schedule"? This is the show that made him famous. Being a dick about it means he will be fighting giant spiders like the Skipper!

It's like his cameo on Life's Too Short. Gervais is responsible for the show that made him a star, but the most he could be bothered to do was a Skype call.




True, but Gervais entire schtick is him being a self-important asshole. I think that this was just him keeping in character.
 
2013-01-07 07:29:05 PM

Dwhaerter: I always hoped the Scranton Strangler was Toby, proving that Michael was always right to have a hatred of Toby. Plus it'd be kind of amazing that Toby served as a juror for a man wrongfully convicted of being the Strangler.

/It'll probably be Creed


It's obviously Toby (to me at least) for this reason and the fact that it validates michaels hatred for him .. And how creepy he was with Pam
 
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