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2013-01-06 07:20:45 PM  

had98c: Oh yay another thread where we can accuse gun nuts of being pants pissers and gun control freaks of being rabid human rights violators.


Yes. I, too, am thrilled to my very core.
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2013-01-06 07:21:30 PM  
Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
- George Washington

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over

etc.


Behold, at the upper right hand corner of this very post you will see four digits. That represents the year. Newsflash: this is 2013. Ever heard of an anachronism? The Constitution could do with a few more amendments.
 
2013-01-06 07:22:22 PM  

buckler: Glancing Blow: Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington


Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?

I only keep him un-ignored for "WTF" and humor value.


I'm always happy to meet a fan.
 
2013-01-06 07:22:33 PM  

This About That: "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." And the more I hear from the NRA, and the "cold dead hands" types, the more I lean toward keeping those folks away from guns.


The second amendment is due to the abusive nature of governments. I'd rather keep guns away from idiots like you who don't understand this basic fact.
 
2013-01-06 07:22:51 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Mrbogey: Vodka Zombie: I didn't even know there was an anti-2nd Amendment movement.

For every basic human right, there's a movement opposed to it.

Heh.. If I was mistaken you're comparing gun ownership to a basic human right akin to freedom or equality. Oh wait, you are.

Bwahahahahahahahahaha

Okay, carry on


Excellent.
 
2013-01-06 07:22:54 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Glancing Blow: Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington


Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 735x412]


And how did that work out for him?
 
2013-01-06 07:23:11 PM  

farkplug: Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
- George Washington

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over

etc.

Behold, at the upper right hand corner of this very post you will see four digits. That represents the year. Newsflash: this is 2013. Ever heard of an anachronism? The Constitution could do with a few more amendments.


What amendment would you propose?
 
2013-01-06 07:24:00 PM  

ThatGuyOverThere: Anybody else notice Michel (AKA BURT MOTHERFARKING GUMMER) Gross in there?
Yes, the last half of his career he has been known for playing a character that stockpiles guns and repeatedly uses them to save people...
And he's actually anti-gun.
Hypocrisy at its finest, right up there with Matt (AKA JASON BOURNE) Damon and Michael (AKA MY ARMED GUARD JUST GOT ARRESTED IN NEW YORK FOR VIOLATING GUN LAWS) Moore - both of which are also on that list.


And that Bastard Tony Hopkins, portraying Hannibal Lechter. Why, he's never eaten even one, single person!
 
2013-01-06 07:24:08 PM  
This is no different than gay rights activists noting those who oppose their own agenda. (Boy Scouts of America, Chic-Fil-A, Family research Council, etc, etc.)

It's exactly the same actually.
 
2013-01-06 07:24:46 PM  
Holy sweet Jeebus the comments after that article are terrifying. Above all others the one where the poster says that "It's OK to lose a few individuals in these situations to save the much bigger whole". I think Newtown might disagree. Unless the common thought is that it's important enough for unstable people to have access to ridiculous amounts of firepower that children need to die?

Is there ANYBODY out there that is both pro-gun and is sane enough to think there's room for improvement? All I've seen so far is the extreme: anybody that wants a gun has the Constitutionally guaranteed right to get one, no questions asked (or training required).

Surely there's got to a modicum of common sense. Somewhere? Please?
 
2013-01-06 07:24:52 PM  
Wait, I didn't make the list? I must try harder.
 
2013-01-06 07:25:26 PM  

david_gaithersburg: I'll host a course for you at $2,500 per seat once you line up 30 participants.


Clowns are MAX about $500 a show around here.

And that's only if you get divorce-dad paying the bill out of guilt.
 
2013-01-06 07:26:04 PM  
So the Nutty Raving Assholes assume that everyone who advocates gun control wants to take away all guns??

Not surprising, coming from the group that has gone out of its way to ensure that those bent on killing others have easy access to assault weapons.
 
2013-01-06 07:26:25 PM  
This comments section is a bona-fide watch list. Thanks fark!

/"Someone just shot up another school. I wonder what their Fark handle is?"
 
2013-01-06 07:26:40 PM  

tblax: david_gaithersburg: Glancing Blow: Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington


Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 735x412]

And how did that work out for him?


.
Perfectly, one of the worst presidents in history for dragging us into Vietnam, Bay of Pigs, etc.
 
2013-01-06 07:26:55 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: "Anti Second Amendment people were so wrong to publish the names and addresses of gun owners that we are going to do the exact same thing, but its okay when we do it, because we're the NRA."


No, it's different: One is publishing the names of people who had to ask permission from the government to own a handgun, something that they shouldn't have to do because it's an enumerated constitutional right.

The other is publishing the names of people who have actively shown their support opposing that right, and people who are in the public eye already to boot, so they have a much lowered expectation of privacy.
 
2013-01-06 07:27:27 PM  

Lorelle: So the Nutty Raving Assholes assume that everyone who advocates gun control wants to take away all guns??

Not surprising, coming from the group that has gone out of its way to ensure that those bent on killing others have easy access to assault weapons.


The people at both of the extreme ends of this discussion make a lot of preposterous assumptions about each other.
 
2013-01-06 07:27:37 PM  
Ted Nugent's music sucks too.
 
2013-01-06 07:28:09 PM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Confabulat: Gun control won't work any more than the drug war has succeeded. That said, if you feel threatened because someone might take away your semi-automatic assault rifle, you a giant pussy and are too cowardly to call yourself a man.

No I'm not!?!?!?! Bushmaster told me I'm a manly man, and I'm tough, and rugged!!!!!


The funny thing is that anyone would consider the AR15 manly.

FN-FAL or GTFO.
 
2013-01-06 07:28:39 PM  

jaytkay: And those people are mostly ignorant paranoids, who are itching to be the next George Zimmerman, John Hinckley, or Adam Lanza.


That's a very common assumption that's quite wrong.
 
2013-01-06 07:29:07 PM  
Right wingers claim that guns in private hands are needed to oust a possible tyrant; but when tyranny comes to America, it will be to the thunderous applause of Fox Izvestia and the same right wingers who claim to be defending a citizen militia.

The reason I can't get behind an "assault weapons" ban is quite different. There's no way short of an outright ban on all private possession of firearms that such things as Newtown could be prevented entirely. Given how the War on Civil LibertiesDrugs has been used by those self-same would-be tyrants that the right wingers claim to worry about, we can well predict what the outcome would be.

There are reasonable steps that can be taken. Background checks for private sales. Limits on how many guns can be purchased -- if you're equipping a citizen militia, each of your militiamen can get his own weapon. Bust the goddamn straw purchasers in Arizona and STFU about Fast and Furious. Ramp down the paramilitarization of law enforcement, and end the War on Civil LibertiesDrugs -- preserving that citizen militia means keeping guns out of the hands of that tyrant. ("[George III] has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures." -- T. J.)

I worry not for the Second Amendment, but for the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth.
 
2013-01-06 07:29:11 PM  
Getting struck by big scary gun lightning sure is scary!
 
2013-01-06 07:29:25 PM  

Shae123: Confabulat: Gun control won't work any more than the drug war has succeeded. That said, if you feel threatened because someone might take away your semi-automatic assault rifle, you a giant pussy and are too cowardly to call yourself a man.

Internet toughguy..he calls people names...wow, what a stud....


More studly than needing a gun to feel like a man.
 
2013-01-06 07:29:30 PM  
Oppression....how do it work?

/was in the Army for 10 years, seen it first hand.

No thanks, I'll keep all of my guns, bullets, hoarded food, water, and precious civil rights.

/Have that exact Bushmaster in the pic above. Very nice weapon, but I think it's broke it hasn't shot any kids yet.

Maybe I need to oil it with the soul of an unbaptized baby?
 
2013-01-06 07:29:38 PM  

XveryYpettyZ: If you took your grandpa's hunting rifle and made it semi-automatic it wouldn't be much more dangerous because the barrel rise degrade the accuracy so much.


Actually, my great-grandfather's hunting rifle *WAS* a semi-automatic. Remington Model 8. Introduced in 1906. His shotgun was a semi-auto too: Browning Auto-5, introduced in 1905.
 
2013-01-06 07:29:39 PM  

NutWrench: It's no more scary than posting lists of legal gun owners, subby.


Exactly the point. If it's not okay to publish a list of registered gun owners, why would this be okay?

/I love shooting and support others' rights to have guns
//but the NRA will never get my money
 
2013-01-06 07:29:53 PM  
Silly Jesus: farkplug: Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

...

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over

etc.
- - -
Behold, at the upper right hand corner of this very post you will see four digits. That represents the year. Newsflash: this is 2013. Ever heard of an anachronism? The Constitution could do with a few more amendments.

What amendment would you propose?


AmendmentS. There could be hundreds. And it'd be kinda sweet if a woman used her pretty little head and contributed to the mix this time, don't you think? (remember... 2013!!!! cue scary ghost music)
 
2013-01-06 07:29:55 PM  

jso2897: And that Bastard Tony Hopkins, portraying Hannibal Lechter. Why, he's never eaten even one, single person!


Be that as it may, if they are so opposed to guns, maybe they should take the moral high ground and stop accepting money to glorify them. Michael Moore is the exception here, although he is a life-member to the NRA, so I'm a little confused by him.
 
2013-01-06 07:31:45 PM  

ThatGuyOverThere: Anybody else notice Michel (AKA BURT MOTHERFARKING GUMMER) Gross in there?
Yes, the last half of his career he has been known for playing a character that stockpiles guns and repeatedly uses them to save people...
And he's actually anti-gun.
Hypocrisy at its finest, right up there with Matt (AKA JASON BOURNE) Damon and Michael (AKA MY ARMED GUARD JUST GOT ARRESTED IN NEW YORK FOR VIOLATING GUN LAWS) Moore - both of which are also on that list.


Sylvester Stallone is on the list as well. That motherfu(ker's made a living off of guns and entertainment.
 
2013-01-06 07:31:49 PM  
There is going to be so much butthurt when no new laws are passed, especially that abortion of an overreach that Feinstein proposed. It's so far out that it doesn't have a chance. May as well steel yourself for it, guys.
 
2013-01-06 07:32:19 PM  

computerguyUT: Oppression....how do it work?

/was in the Army for 10 years, seen it first hand.

No thanks, I'll keep all of my guns, bullets, hoarded food, water, and precious civil rights.

/Have that exact Bushmaster in the pic above. Very nice weapon, but I think it's broke it hasn't shot any kids yet.

Maybe I need to oil it with the soul of an unbaptized baby?


What the hell are you talking about?

You need to use the blood of forsaken children as lube. No wonder your shiat is broke.
 
2013-01-06 07:32:37 PM  
...Jesus.

Question: How many of these people are actually anti-gun or just merely anti-idiot with gun?
 
2013-01-06 07:33:58 PM  

dittybopper: XveryYpettyZ: If you took your grandpa's hunting rifle and made it semi-automatic it wouldn't be much more dangerous because the barrel rise degrade the accuracy so much.

Actually, my great-grandfather's hunting rifle *WAS* a semi-automatic. Remington Model 8. Introduced in 1906. His shotgun was a semi-auto too: Browning Auto-5, introduced in 1905.


Lets not forget that my 1942-stamped M1 was probably owned by somebody's grandpa - it's 70yrs old. The man I bought it from is old enough to be my father and he said his father had kept it in a safe for 40yrs - longer than I've been alive.
 
2013-01-06 07:34:39 PM  
David Canary - Actor

Might want to update that one, Bob.


Celebtards against simple white folk such as myself owning guns is no news. I won't go down the list like I usually do and point out which guys on the list use a gun IN EVERY SINGLE farkING MOVIE they make.

Steve Booscheemy is a appointment though :/
 
2013-01-06 07:35:10 PM  

ThrobblefootSpectre: This is no different than gay rights activists noting those who oppose their own agenda. (Boy Scouts of America, Chic-Fil-A, Family research Council, etc, etc.)

It's exactly the same actually.


^ Came here to say this. There's no difference. Various "progressive" organizations have no qualms about posting lists of their political enemies. This is no different.
 
2013-01-06 07:35:13 PM  

AirForceVet: Having been robbed at gunpoint once, I'm cool with gun control because it's too easy for crooks and nuts to get guns.


Having been shot at more than once, you are a pussy.
 
2013-01-06 07:35:26 PM  
Hallmark Cards is a gun control-loving corporation. This is probably because they do not make sympathy cards for accidental shootings and mass murders.

Perhaps the NRA can lobby them to start making their greeting cards more sympathetic to Second Amendment fans. Here are a few helpful tips on greeting cards that support the Second Amendment.

Congratulations on exercising your Second Amendment rights. Sorry to hear about your gun cleaning accident. I hope you are up and walking soon!

Condoleances on the death of your two year old. I guess you're sorry you didn't teach your five year old all about guns and gun safety now, stupid!

Sorry to hear your lovely teenage daughter blew her brains out because she was depressed and bulemic. At least she had the good taste to do it with a fine American-made, hand-tooled handgun!

Sorry about the tragedy at your school. Guns don't kill people. True, many guns are designed for the sole purpose of killing a very large number of people in a very short period of time, but really it's not the gun that kills the people. It's the ammo in the gun clips with rounds of 30 or more bullets that kill people. Remember to buy ammo as part of your back to kindergarten gear! Now 30% to 70% off at WallyMart!
 
2013-01-06 07:35:29 PM  

HeadLever: Kome: When your list of "opponents" includes the American Medical Association, American Bar Association, and American Psychological Association, and we haven't even gotten out of the "A" letters, you may seriously need to re-think your position.

When those "A" letter organizations are against the Bill of Rights, they may need to seriously re-think their position.


"Strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means." -Thomas Jefferson

In other words, maybe we need to change it. We've certainly ignored it several times. And more times than not for more specious reasons than over 100,000 gun injuries and fatalities each year, and almost always at the behest of conservative Republicans. The Bill of Rights should not ever be used to handcuff us in pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - which has been used as a justification numerous times over the course of the War on Terror for the curtailment of several more valuable and crucial liberties, freedoms, and rights.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think any single legislative act will do much of anything, whether it's more regulation or an outright ban. I genuinely don't see it doing any thing. However, that is because we have allowed ourselves to let the problem escalate to the point where there are almost as many guns as citizens in the US allowing for incredibly easy access to firearms for nearly anyone at nearly any point. But considering it's a course of action that we have no tried before in an attempt to address a serious issue of violence in our country, I fail to see any legitimate objection to some more regulation or even bans of certain weapons or firearm accessories.
 
2013-01-06 07:35:38 PM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard:
I worry not for the Second Amendment, but for the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth.


Well said.
 
2013-01-06 07:36:36 PM  

ThatGuyOverThere: Anybody else notice Michel (AKA BURT MOTHERFARKING GUMMER) Gross in there?
Yes, the last half of his career he has been known for playing a character that stockpiles guns and repeatedly uses them to save people...
And he's actually anti-gun.
Hypocrisy at its finest, right up there with Matt (AKA JASON BOURNE) Damon and Michael (AKA MY ARMED GUARD JUST GOT ARRESTED IN NEW YORK FOR VIOLATING GUN LAWS) Moore - both of which are also on that list.


And how many death threats has Micheal Moore recieved? And in this poltical climate can you look me in the eye and tell me that someone crazy enough wouldn't try to shoot him because he's a libural?
 
2013-01-06 07:36:40 PM  
Stallone is on that list? What a farkin' hypocritical asshole.
 
2013-01-06 07:36:44 PM  

buckler: Sure would have helped if Reagan hadn't dumped them all on the streets.


He hasn't been president in 25 YEARS. What explanation is there for the next Presidents not doing anything?
 
2013-01-06 07:36:50 PM  

Vodka Zombie: I didn't even know there was an anti-2nd Amendment movement.


If you slight the NRA then they're gonna get you. It progressed beyond the Second Amendment a long time ago.
 
2013-01-06 07:37:10 PM  
Maybe they should consider posting their addresses as well and arranging them on a handy google map.

Would that be more appropriate?
 
2013-01-06 07:37:10 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Some of the celebrities & notables on the list are dead, so why weren't their names removed. It makes me question how accurate this list is.

Jackie Cooper died in 2011.
Nora Ephron died in 2012
Coretta Scott King died in 2006
Sydney Pollack died in 2008
Ruth Warrick died in 2005
James Whitmore died in 2009
Andy Williams died in 2012


That's the Chicago way.
 
2013-01-06 07:38:44 PM  

ThatGuyOverThere: maybe they should take the moral high ground and stop accepting money to glorify them


You know... Burt Gummer is like a parody of a gun owner, right?
 
2013-01-06 07:38:58 PM  

ThatGuyOverThere: jso2897: And that Bastard Tony Hopkins, portraying Hannibal Lechter. Why, he's never eaten even one, single person!

Be that as it may, if they are so opposed to guns, maybe they should take the moral high ground and stop accepting money to glorify them. Michael Moore is the exception here, although he is a life-member to the NRA, so I'm a little confused by him.


Well, maybe they aren't as opposed to guns as you think they are. As I mentioned earlier, the people who are passionate about this debate tend to vastly exaggerate the views of their opposition. But I don't know, or care, and pretty much stay out of the debate for that reason. I'm just here to try a lighten things up a little.
I have views about gun control, but I'm not passionate about them, and don't feel like getting screamed at by both "sides", which is what usually happens when you have a moderate opinion on a highly controversial subject.
 
2013-01-06 07:39:06 PM  

Frank N Stein: Sleeping Monkey: "Anti Second Amendment people were so wrong to publish the names and addresses of gun owners that we are going to do the exact same thing, but its okay when we do it, because we're the NRA."

"publishing the names of public people and organizations is the exact same thing as publishing the addresses of private citizens (many of whom are cops, and are now threatened by criminals [look it up. Im on my phone and not doing your homework]) because I'm sleeping Monkey and I have no ability to reason"


It was already public information
 
2013-01-06 07:39:14 PM  

thisisarepeat: AirForceVet: Having been robbed at gunpoint once, I'm cool with gun control because it's too easy for crooks and nuts to get guns.

Having been shot at more than once, you are a pussy.


Having watched both my parents get shot to death by a mugger when I was a child and then raised by the family valet in a socially, economically, and physically isolated environment, you are superstitious and cowardly.
 
2013-01-06 07:39:29 PM  

pedrop357: buckler: Sure would have helped if Reagan hadn't dumped them all on the streets.

He hasn't been president in 25 YEARS. What explanation is there for the next Presidents not doing anything?


I wish I had an answer. I'm guessing political inertia.
 
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