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2013-01-06 06:59:56 PM  

Somacandra: violentsalvation: It is sad that the ACLU does not support an American civil liberty.

Probably because its a property right (not a civil liberty) and duplicating resources that the NRA already deploys wouldn't be very effective as an organizational strategy?


Civil Liberty:

Freedom from arbitrary governmental interference (as with the right of free speech) specifically by denial of governmental power and in the United States especially as guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.
 
2013-01-06 07:00:09 PM  

NFA: Submitter, why is this scary?  The NRA is a pro-gun lobby group.  Their job is to identify and out-politic their opponents.  They are funded by gun advocates, so they do their best to defend their rights.  Do I agree with the NRA all the time?  Nope.  I honestly do not believe we would still be allowed to possess guns without the work of the NRA.


I honestly believe the NRA stopped fighting for the 2nd Amendment years ago, and became nothing but a front for manufacturers. That's when I quit funding them. Let Colt, S&W, and so one pay for their lobbying. They sure as heck don't need my money.

I honestly find it hilarious and scary, the NRA has some people so snowed that the 2nd Amendment would disappear in few years without them.
 
2013-01-06 07:00:25 PM  
NRA members are all well mannered law abiding citizens. There is no apprecible risk to their opponents.
 
2013-01-06 07:01:12 PM  

Confabulat: Gun control won't work any more than the drug war has succeeded. That said, if you feel threatened because someone might take away your semi-automatic assault rifle, you a giant pussy and are too cowardly to call yourself a man.


Do you know what the scary word semi-automatic means? It means that the gun fires one bullet at a time. OH NOES!
 
2013-01-06 07:01:27 PM  

MorePeasPlease: Bathia_Mapes: Some of the celebrities & notables on the list are dead, so why weren't their names removed. It makes me question how accurate this list is.

Jackie Cooper died in 2011.
Nora Ephron died in 2012
Coretta Scott King died in 2006
Sydney Pollack died in 2008
Ruth Warrick died in 2005
James Whitmore died in 2009
Andy Williams died in 2012

I see what you did there.


I don't.

/What does this random collection of letters mean?
 
2013-01-06 07:01:45 PM  

Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.


My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.
 
2013-01-06 07:01:54 PM  

jaytkay: NFA: Submitter, why is this scary? The NRA is a pro-gun lobby group. Their job is to identify and out-politic their opponents.

Their JOB is to put fear into the minds of impressionable people who will write them checks.

And those people are mostly ignorant paranoids, who are itching to be the next George Zimmerman, John Hinckley, or Adam Lanza.


Laf Out Loud

7/10
 
2013-01-06 07:02:15 PM  
Being on an anti-NRA list would be a boost to any celebrity or organization. As one person once put it, it's like getting hate mail from Hitler.
 
2013-01-06 07:03:17 PM  

NFA: Submitter, why is this scary?  The NRA is a pro-gun lobby group.  Their job is to identify and out-politic their opponents.  They are funded by gun advocates, so they do their best to defend their rights.  Do I agree with the NRA all the time?  Nope.  I honestly do not believe we would still be allowed to possess guns without the work of the NRA.


I wonder how pro-gun they really are, as the last presidential election the NRA endorsed the candidate who signed into law an assault weapons ban. One can only wonder the reasoning behind endorsing said candidate, over the one who has signed laws expanding gun rights...
 
2013-01-06 07:04:01 PM  
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this tactic and if there is you should probably stop singling out the NRA for doing it... Since it's a fairly common tactic employed by all sides left, right, and center.
 
2013-01-06 07:04:42 PM  
Prohibition has worked sooooo well, let's extend it to guns too.

/Now that so-called-facists-progressives have shown their cards
//I will never register another firearm.
 
2013-01-06 07:05:05 PM  
This isn't fair. I want to respond to more than half the comments. Please green-light more pro/anti gun topics.

Oh, the list:
It does not say why names were added to the list.
It does not rank them by threat level.
It does not indicate the duration of their opposition, nor the date it was first detected.
It does not indicate whether their opposition was once, many, or ongoing.
. . .

This is a disgraceful enemies list. For help, visit the Nixon Library.
 
2013-01-06 07:05:28 PM  

zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.


"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
- George Washington

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778

"Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self defense."
- John Adams

"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe."
- Noah Webster

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster

"A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a Republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace."
- James Madison

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
- James Madison

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison

"The ultimate authority resides in the people alone."
- James Madison

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."
- Richard Henry Lee

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry

"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker

"... arms ... discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property.... Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them."
- Thomas Paine

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts

" ... for it is a truth, which the experience of all ages has attested, that the people are commonly most in danger when the means of insuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion."
- Alexander Hamilton
 
2013-01-06 07:05:49 PM  

Kome: When your list of "opponents" includes the American Medical Association, American Bar Association, and American Psychological Association, and we haven't even gotten out of the "A" letters, you may seriously need to re-think your position.


When those "A" letter organizations are against the Bill of Rights, they may need to seriously re-think their position.
 
2013-01-06 07:06:19 PM  

david_gaithersburg: I will never register another firearm.


I take it you'll also take to driving without a valid license...
 
2013-01-06 07:06:23 PM  

inglixthemad: NFA: Submitter, why is this scary?  The NRA is a pro-gun lobby group.  Their job is to identify and out-politic their opponents.  They are funded by gun advocates, so they do their best to defend their rights.  Do I agree with the NRA all the time?  Nope.  I honestly do not believe we would still be allowed to possess guns without the work of the NRA.

I honestly believe the NRA stopped fighting for the 2nd Amendment years ago, and became nothing but a front for manufacturers. That's when I quit funding them. Let Colt, S&W, and so one pay for their lobbying. They sure as heck don't need my money.

I honestly find it hilarious and scary, the NRA has some people so snowed that the 2nd Amendment would disappear in few years without them.


You, sir, may keep your guns.

/sanity test
 
2013-01-06 07:06:34 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Pam Dawber, Peter Bonerz and Sandy "Funny Face" Duncan are on their knees thanking God right now.



Are you saying they rolled over in their graves?
 
2013-01-06 07:06:56 PM  

Confabulat: Gun control won't work any more than the drug war has succeeded. That said, if you feel threatened because someone might take away your semi-automatic assault rifle, you a giant pussy and are too cowardly to call yourself a man.


No I'm not!?!?!?! Bushmaster told me I'm a manly man, and I'm tough, and rugged!!!!!
images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2013-01-06 07:08:55 PM  

WhyteRaven74: david_gaithersburg: I will never register another firearm.

I take it you'll also take to driving without a valid license...


.
I take it you are not familiar with inalienable rights.
 
2013-01-06 07:08:59 PM  
Cuisine excuses slavery?
 
2013-01-06 07:09:28 PM  
Liberal logic:

Obama wants to create a list of all the guns and their owners: SUPER SMART! Nothing to worry about!

The NRA created a list of people that are opposed to gun freedom: OMGS THEY BE MAKING LISTS UP IN THIS BIATCH! DONT THEY KNOW LISTS BE EVIL?
 
2013-01-06 07:09:32 PM  

NutWrench: It's no more scary than posting lists of legal gun owners, subby.


This must be the short list. Levi Strauss and Sprint are missing, probably hundreds of others.
 
2013-01-06 07:11:43 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: The list:

American Firearms Association

lol wut?


Seems the AFA has a dual role. (eyeroll).
 
2013-01-06 07:11:52 PM  

david_gaithersburg: I take it you are not familiar with inalienable rights.


The ability to move about from place to place upon the public ways is an inalienable right.

halB: The NRA created a list of people that are opposed to gun freedom:


An organization that nominally has the same interest as the NRA is opposed to gun freedom? Really?
 
2013-01-06 07:12:09 PM  
:sigh:
Looks like I've got a whole lotta boycottin' ta do. Better eat another Jesus brand™ chicken sammich.
 
2013-01-06 07:12:09 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Some of the celebrities & notables on the list are dead, so why weren't their names removed. It makes me question how accurate this list is.

Jackie Cooper died in 2011.
Nora Ephron died in 2012
Coretta Scott King died in 2006
Sydney Pollack died in 2008
Ruth Warrick died in 2005
James Whitmore died in 2009
Andy Williams died in 2012


i291.photobucket.com

Cross them off, then!
 
2013-01-06 07:12:33 PM  

david_gaithersburg: I take it you are not familiar with inalienable rights.


You sound real smart. Tell us about inalienable rights and the US Constitution.

In detail, please.
 
2013-01-06 07:12:39 PM  

Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.


THIS

LOL
 
2013-01-06 07:12:40 PM  
Offer up a repeal amendment for the 2nd or quit your bellyaching. The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, That means you don't get to infringe,
 
2013-01-06 07:12:55 PM  
They're surveyor marks.
 
2013-01-06 07:12:56 PM  
Push a group hard enough and they'll push back. This group just happens to be extremely well armed. Our push back isn't going to be like the candyass responses of others.
 
2013-01-06 07:12:58 PM  
"Are you now, or have you ever been a member of an anti-gun group?"
 
2013-01-06 07:13:04 PM  

Silly Jesus: Confabulat: Gun control won't work any more than the drug war has succeeded. That said, if you feel threatened because someone might take away your semi-automatic assault rifle, you a giant pussy and are too cowardly to call yourself a man.

Do you know what the scary word semi-automatic means? It means that the gun fires one bullet at a time. OH NOES!


I always find the disingenuous hee-hawing over words like "semi automatic" and "assault rifle" hilarious. Yes, a semi-automatic "assault rifle" is much more dangerous than a traditional long gun for a number of reasons, including but not limited to: the amount of barrel rise with the smaller caliber high-velocity round when firing quickly, the ease, speed of and time between reloading, and the grip style.

If you took your grandpa's hunting rifle and made it semi-automatic it wouldn't be much more dangerous because the barrel rise degrade the accuracy so much. For reference, see the problems with the M14 and why most of them had a pin inserted to prevent them from being fired fully-automatic.... even by trained soldiers in a war zone. The reason the M16 was able to shoulder its way in to the military so soon after the introduction of the M14 was that it was simply more lethal to human beings over the ranges that human beings most commonly kill each other.. That's true of the AR15 civilian model as well.
 
2013-01-06 07:13:41 PM  

halB: Obama wants to create a list of all the guns and their owners: SUPER SMART! Nothing to worry about!


He does?
 
2013-01-06 07:13:47 PM  

Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington


Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?
 
2013-01-06 07:14:58 PM  
"Oh noes, people know I own guns? Maybe I should start keeping that shiat locked up."


Personally I'd rather just let the crybabies have their toys and start working on some decent mental health care reform.
 
2013-01-06 07:15:17 PM  

Glancing Blow: Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?


Don't worry, he ignores everything they said about people doing as they please when it comes to things he doesn't like.
 
2013-01-06 07:15:23 PM  

jaytkay: david_gaithersburg: I take it you are not familiar with inalienable rights.

You sound real smart. Tell us about inalienable rights and the US Constitution.

In detail, please.


.
Sure. I'll host a course for you at $2,500 per seat once you line up 30 participants.
 
2013-01-06 07:15:56 PM  
Isn't that the same group that got upset when a newspaper published gun permit holders' information?

Isn't the same group that endorsed a Presidential candidate who pushed for gun bans?

Why do we believe them?
 
2013-01-06 07:16:04 PM  

Old enough to know better: "Oh noes, people know I own guns? Maybe I should start keeping that shiat locked up."


Personally I'd rather just let the crybabies have their toys and start working on some decent mental health care reform.


Sure would have helped if Reagan hadn't dumped them all on the streets.
 
2013-01-06 07:16:53 PM  
Anybody else notice Michel (AKA BURT MOTHERFARKING GUMMER) Gross in there?
Yes, the last half of his career he has been known for playing a character that stockpiles guns and repeatedly uses them to save people...
And he's actually anti-gun.
Hypocrisy at its finest, right up there with Matt (AKA JASON BOURNE) Damon and Michael (AKA MY ARMED GUARD JUST GOT ARRESTED IN NEW YORK FOR VIOLATING GUN LAWS) Moore - both of which are also on that list.
 
2013-01-06 07:16:59 PM  

Glancing Blow: Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington


Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?


sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-01-06 07:17:14 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: "Anti Second Amendment people were so wrong to publish the names and addresses of gun owners that we are going to do the exact same thing, but its okay when we do it, because we're the NRA."


you seem butthurt, libtardo von gungrabber
 
2013-01-06 07:17:29 PM  

Confabulat: Gun control won't work any more than the drug war has succeeded. That said, if you feel threatened because someone might take away your semi-automatic assault rifle, you a giant pussy and are too cowardly to call yourself a man.


Internet toughguy..he calls people names...wow, what a stud....
 
2013-01-06 07:18:35 PM  

david_gaithersburg: WhyteRaven74: david_gaithersburg: I will never register another firearm.

I take it you'll also take to driving without a valid license...

.
I take it you are not familiar with inalienable rights.


I take it you're not familiar with the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.
 
2013-01-06 07:19:16 PM  

jaytkay: halB: Obama wants to create a list of all the guns and their owners: SUPER SMART! Nothing to worry about!

He does?


.
Yes, try reading the news, and pay attention.
 
2013-01-06 07:19:35 PM  

Glancing Blow: Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington


Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?


I only keep him un-ignored for "WTF" and humor value.
 
2013-01-06 07:19:51 PM  

david_gaithersburg: Glancing Blow: Silly Jesus: zenobia: Theaetetus: It could start a conversation, Subby? I fail to see what your fearmongering is pointing at.

My guess is that subby was amazed -- as am I -- at how many organizations and people of impeccable credentials are on The Big List. I'd like to see a list of pro-assault weapon organizations to compare the educational and sanity levels.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

So you also have cool quotes of people quoting people from the 18th century.

Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 735x412]

 
2013-01-06 07:20:26 PM  

Vodka Zombie: I didn't even know there was an anti-2nd Amendment movement.


There isn't.

Hope that cleared things up.
 
2013-01-06 07:20:41 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Glancing Blow: Cool quotes, got any from the 19th, 20th, or 21st century, or do you just have this founding-fathers johnson?

Don't worry, he ignores everything they said about people doing as they please when it comes to things he doesn't like.


Really? Do tell.
 
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