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(Washington Times)   It's one thing to break DC's gun laws when you're white and rich but if you're non-white and non-rich... oh you better believe you're going to get charged with a crime. Bonus: Defendant is an Army vet and applicant for US Marshal   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 310
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2013-01-06 06:23:30 PM  

GAT_00: BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?

It's worth pointing out here that a few people who are fervently pro-gun are now demanding that someone be charged with a law they consider illegal without actual proof that the law is violated.  Which really boils down to nothing more than wanting to throw your political enemies in prison.


Or maybe it would be nice to give him some pause before he uses his media outlet to advocate that anyone ever convicted of a firearms related offense be required to remain 5,280 feet from a school lest they be publicly executed, or whatever else that asshat wants to do to gun owners.
 
2013-01-06 06:24:33 PM  

St_Francis_P: I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!


I'm a little confused - I've always heard the same people say that the reason blacks are overrepresented in our penal system is that they commit so many more crimes than other people. Maybe having a gun makes you a "good darkie". Somebody needs to tell the Crips and the Bloods about this sudden change of heart.
 
2013-01-06 06:24:44 PM  

GAT_00: BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?

It's worth pointing out here that a few people who are fervently pro-gun are now demanding that someone be charged with a law they consider illegal without actual proof that the law is violated.  Which really boils down to nothing more than wanting to throw your political enemies in prison.


Thiis. You said it more eloquently than I just did.
 
2013-01-06 06:25:39 PM  
 
2013-01-06 06:27:09 PM  
We came close to ruining a law-abiding working man's life, and are arguing about causing a TV anchor grief, because of a silly, arbitrary limit on a simple device any car mechanic could make. And people still think our gun laws are too lax?
 
2013-01-06 06:28:13 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Hi, and welcome to The United States of America. Be very careful of your skin color, as it will affect how you are perceived in Court.


Has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with one being a normal dude and the other being a rich and connected TV personality.

Average white dude would probably face similar bullshiat. Al Roker would have gotten a pass.
 
2013-01-06 06:29:10 PM  

AssAsInAssassin: feckingmorons: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

You are actually coming up with defense strategies because you agree with his position, or think he is cute, or want to do your hair that way or some other absurd reason. There is probable cause to believe (and video to help us see) that he broke the law and you want to argue that he didn't.

Simply amazing.

What flavor was the Kool-AId?

What bothers you more: That the clip is illegal, or that a journalist from the mainstreamliberalmedia had one in his possession?
Conservative cognitive dissonance is always fun to watch.


It's called a magazine, not a clip. And if either of them was charged, they both have to be charged. Double standards are bullshiat no matter how you look at it.

/b.s. ban is b.s.
 
2013-01-06 06:29:21 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.


I heard that mr gregory may or may not have had possession of a real high capacity magazine in 1990 and that you are still a moron in 2013.
 
2013-01-06 06:29:24 PM  

AssAsInAssassin: GAT_00: BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?

It's worth pointing out here that a few people who are fervently pro-gun are now demanding that someone be charged with a law they consider illegal without actual proof that the law is violated.  Which really boils down to nothing more than wanting to throw your political enemies in prison.

Thiis. You said it more eloquently than I just did.


You are so totally different arent you? What would you like the penalty to be for violating any gun control measure you wish to inflict on us? 2 hours in the "get along shirt"?
 
2013-01-06 06:30:15 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.


Seriously dude, f*cking blow me. You insipid little twat.
 
2013-01-06 06:31:18 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?

One should be able to trust the MPD on taking unregistered GUNS TO THE WHITE HOUSE but personally I would have made two trips.


He didn't take a "gun to the White House, he had it legally stowed in his car while dropping his wife off for a tour. You're acting like he walked into the WH strapped. Read the article, the gun was locked securely, and according to law. He was guilty of having an empty holster.
 
2013-01-06 06:31:19 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: 5 things to remember when you enjoy firearms.

1.) never goto california
2.) or newyork
3.) or illinois
4.) or DC
5.) if you are doing something possibly illegal do not mention it to an authority.

6.) Chicago
 
2013-01-06 06:32:25 PM  
Chicago is a shiat state all by its self.
 
2013-01-06 06:32:38 PM  
My question is what is a Secret Service agent doing enforcing DC law?
 
2013-01-06 06:32:43 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan told The Washington Times, "We feel it was a valid arrest, and the appropriate charges were brought." Moments later, a spokesman for the D.C. attorney general's office, Ted Gest, called and provided the exact same quote. Mr. Gest added that, despite Mr. Brinkley's acquittal, the ruling "doesn't mean the judge is right, and we're wrong."

/actually, you're being wrong with charging him with a crime is EXACTLY what the judgment means.


Because the judge couldn't be wrong?
 
2013-01-06 06:34:03 PM  

jso2897: St_Francis_P: I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!

I'm a little confused - I've always heard the same people say that the reason blacks are overrepresented in our penal system is that they commit so many more crimes than other people. Maybe having a gun makes you a "good darkie". Somebody needs to tell the Crips and the Bloods about this sudden change of heart.


You think it's because they commit less? Or is it a grand conspiracy?
 
2013-01-06 06:34:30 PM  

cbcs: Prove Gregory had a real mag.


All the cops need to do is subpoena the NBC producers who worked on the show. They're the ones who would have set up the magazine stunt. "Was it a real magazine?"

They will answer yes, because Gregory is a douchebag and they'll want to see him behind bars.
 
2013-01-06 06:36:35 PM  
How many of you caught the statement by the SS spokesman? The 'just because Brinkley was acquitted doesn't mean the judge was right and we are wrong'.

Yes it does mean that. That is the job of the judge to decide who is right and who is wrong. In this case, I very much agree with the judge.
 
2013-01-06 06:37:10 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?

One should be able to trust the MPD on taking unregistered GUNS TO THE WHITE HOUSE but personally I would have made two trips.


This and this.
 
2013-01-06 06:37:38 PM  
FTA: Ted Gest, called and provided the exact same quote. Mr. Gest added that, despite Mr. Brinkley's acquittal, the ruling "doesn't mean the judge is right, and we're wrong."

YES, if farking does, you idiot fark.

This is the goddamn problem with law enforcement in the US. They think they ARE the law, and judges' opinions contrary to that be damned.

/eat my shiat, Ted Gest
 
2013-01-06 06:38:31 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: compare UK and US violent crime


Except if you Google "violent crime rate" you'll find plenty of reports about the decline. You'll also see the twit in the video didn't include 2012, which saw the first increase in violent crime since 1993.

It's always amusing to hear people who get all their news from Fox and Rush Limbaugh say "The media isn't telling you this!" Oh, yeah? Then how did you find out about it?
 
2013-01-06 06:38:43 PM  

Silly Jesus: jso2897: St_Francis_P: I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!

I'm a little confused - I've always heard the same people say that the reason blacks are overrepresented in our penal system is that they commit so many more crimes than other people. Maybe having a gun makes you a "good darkie". Somebody needs to tell the Crips and the Bloods about this sudden change of heart.

You think it's because they commit less? Or is it a grand conspiracy?


This isn't about what I think. I'm just asking questions.
 
2013-01-06 06:38:49 PM  
Why does the presence of any empty holster kick off anything, much less a traffic stop? Why does a traffic stop justify searching the vehicle?
 
2013-01-06 06:39:11 PM  

Oblio13: We came close to ruining a law-abiding working man's life, and are arguing about causing a TV anchor grief, because of a silly, arbitrary limit on a simple device any car mechanic could make. And people still think our gun laws are too lax?


Based on the prior gun control threads i am convinced that the gun control crowd has no idea what laws actually exist....therefore they believe they are too lax.
 
2013-01-06 06:39:30 PM  

jso2897: St_Francis_P: I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!

I'm a little confused - I've always heard the same people say that the reason blacks are overrepresented in our penal system is that they commit so many more crimes than other people. Maybe having a gun makes you a "good darkie". Somebody needs to tell the Crips and the Bloods about this sudden change of heart.


From four years ago:

www.csgv.org

This "good darkie," as you so racistly phrased it, carried a loaded assault rifle openly at a Tea Party convention and not only wasn't lynched, but because a cause celebre when MSNBC used this picture as proof that the teabaggers were all gun-toting maniacs, though they carefully cropped out all exposed skin surfaces out of the picture they ran.

/funny thing about relying on the sworn enemies of a group for information about that group, you often get told a lot of stuff that just isn't true
//then the whole world seems to have gone insane and you can't make any sense of it
///the anxiety attacks are all self-inflicted, really
 
2013-01-06 06:39:51 PM  

Farkage: And if either of them was charged, they both have to be charged.


Because a picture of you holding a magazine in a place not your residence is EXACTLY the same class of evidence as being busted with said magazine in your vehicle along with the weapon it is intended to be used with.

The desperation here is hilarious.
 
2013-01-06 06:43:11 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Farkage: And if either of them was charged, they both have to be charged.

Because a picture of you holding a magazine in a place not your residence is EXACTLY the same class of evidence as being busted with said magazine in your vehicle along with the weapon it is intended to be used with.

The desperation here is hilarious.


Says the guy who thinks the perp was parked in the lincoln bedroom
 
2013-01-06 06:43:18 PM  

Giltric: Oblio13: We came close to ruining a law-abiding working man's life, and are arguing about causing a TV anchor grief, because of a silly, arbitrary limit on a simple device any car mechanic could make. And people still think our gun laws are too lax?

Based on the prior gun control threads i am convinced that the gun control crowd has no idea what laws actually exist....therefore they believe they are too lax.


For a minority of gun control advocates, that civilians are able to legally own any firearms is proof that existing laws are too "lax".

For a larger minority, that civilians are able to legally own any firearm reliant upon technology developed within the previous two-hundred years is proof that existing laws are too "lax".
 
2013-01-06 06:43:42 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: compare UK and US violent crime


Essentially, liberal cesspools (big cities), and their inherent government subsidized criminals, account for the crime. Thanks libs.
 
2013-01-06 06:43:52 PM  

Tatterdemalian: jso2897: St_Francis_P: I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!

I'm a little confused - I've always heard the same people say that the reason blacks are overrepresented in our penal system is that they commit so many more crimes than other people. Maybe having a gun makes you a "good darkie". Somebody needs to tell the Crips and the Bloods about this sudden change of heart.

From four years ago:

[www.csgv.org image 262x350]

This "good darkie," as you so racistly phrased it, carried a loaded assault rifle openly at a Tea Party convention and not only wasn't lynched, but because a cause celebre when MSNBC used this picture as proof that the teabaggers were all gun-toting maniacs, though they carefully cropped out all exposed skin surfaces out of the picture they ran.

/funny thing about relying on the sworn enemies of a group for information about that group, you often get told a lot of stuff that just isn't true
//then the whole world seems to have gone insane and you can't make any sense of it
///the anxiety attacks are all self-inflicted, really


Cool. I'll be informing 'Lil Trey and Lo Kill that the Tea Party will be happy to accept their applications forthwith.
 
2013-01-06 06:44:39 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Farkage: And if either of them was charged, they both have to be charged.

Because a picture of you holding a magazine in a place not your residence is EXACTLY the same class of evidence as being busted with said magazine in your vehicle along with the weapon it is intended to be used with.

The desperation here is hilarious.


Not so much, but nice try. I'm glad you approve of double standards though. It is either very illegal to have a high capacity magazine or it isn't, correct?
 
2013-01-06 06:44:41 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Because a picture of you holding a magazine in a place not your residence is EXACTLY the same class of evidence as being busted with said magazine in your vehicle along with the weapon it is intended to be used with.


Yes. Yes it is. Stupid law is stupid.
 
2013-01-06 06:44:56 PM  

ReverendJasen: FTA: Ted Gest, called and provided the exact same quote. Mr. Gest added that, despite Mr. Brinkley's acquittal, the ruling "doesn't mean the judge is right, and we're wrong."

YES, if farking does, you idiot fark.

This is the goddamn problem with law enforcement in the US. They think they ARE the law, and judges' opinions contrary to that be damned.

/eat my shiat, Ted Gest


Because everyone knows that if a Judge says that someone didn't shoot someone else, that person's wound heals and the bullet backs out in slow motion and returns into the gun. Ta-da!
 
2013-01-06 06:45:06 PM  

Tatterdemalian:
This "good darkie," as you so racistly phrased it, carried a loaded assault rifle openly...


Nitpick: unless that gun has fully automatic functionality, it is not an assault rifle.

/but hey, at least you didn't call it an AK47
 
2013-01-06 06:45:32 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: The desperation here is hilarious.


I agree. At least about the desperation coming from you. A news anchor went on TV and claimed the object in his hand was a 30 round magazine, it resembled a 30 round magazine, and he had even called the police department ahead of time to see how to possess a 30 round magazine.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if this was some right wing hack holding a firearm that resembled a machinegun, which he claimed was a machinegun and of which he had talked to the NYC or DC PD about before bringing on his show, we'd be hearing a very different tune from you.
 
2013-01-06 06:46:13 PM  

GAT_00: It's worth pointing out here that a few people who are fervently pro-gun are now demanding that someone be charged with a law they consider illegal without actual proof that the law is violated. Which really boils down to nothing more than wanting to throw your political enemies in prison.


Well, I don't think David Gregory has to actually be charged to point out what a hypocrite his type is.
 
2013-01-06 06:46:31 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: compare UK and US violent crime


The agencies of the two countries have considerably different standards for what constitutes "violent crime". For instance, the UK stats include "simple assault" (no injuries, no weapons), while the FBI does not. The crimes which the UK counts as violent and the FBI doesn't make up the majority of the UK stats.

If you compare them on an apples-for-apples basis, UK violent crime rates ares indeed much lower than the U.S. You and the guy who made that video are idiots.
 
2013-01-06 06:46:50 PM  

pedrop357: Why does the presence of any empty holster kick off anything, much less a traffic stop? Why does a traffic stop justify searching the vehicle?


Because the law in D.C. only allows for criminals to have weapons. Then the guy told him the shiat was in his car. Pretty simple.
 
2013-01-06 06:47:07 PM  
Well, if there's one type of person we should exempt from the law, it's applicants for law enforcement agencies.
 
2013-01-06 06:47:16 PM  

ReverendJasen: Tatterdemalian:
This "good darkie," as you so racistly phrased it, carried a loaded assault rifle openly...

Nitpick: unless that gun has fully automatic functionality, it is not an assault rifle.

/but hey, at least you didn't call it an AK47


But it is black and scary looking.
 
2013-01-06 06:47:29 PM  

GAT_00: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: vudutek: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

http://www.wtop.com/41/3171388/NBCs-David-Gregory-may-have-violated- DC -gun-laws-during-interview-
"The official said he took a phone call on Friday from someone at NBC who wanted to know about showing ammunition and a gun magazine on the show. "

Loaded or not, that sure sounds like it was a real mag.

Go to court with that and see what happens.

Yeah, speculation is not proof.  Lack of proof appears to be enough for a few people who are quite concerned though.


Because a video of him holding the mag, him stating that it is a high capacity magazine, and the fact that he asked the police if the magazine would be legal to have are all completely irrelevant. Do you think that leaves "reasonable doubt" because it sounds like the only doubt that's left is closer to a 1/1,000,000 chance of him not having broken the law, which isn't exactly reasonable. Look, it's ok that you want 2 sets of rules for people, but your statement here isn't going to affect any court decision, so can you come off the full retard act and admit he broke the law beyond a reasonable doubt?
 
2013-01-06 06:48:00 PM  

GF named my left testicle thundercles: compare UK and US violent crime


Another utter fail: The twit in the video points out that the population of England and Wales is about 1/6 that of the US. He goes on to point out that the US has 186 metropolitan areas of 250,000 or more, and England/Wales has only 32.

Let's see... what's 32 x 6? Let me grab my calculator...

192.

He doesn't compare the GUN crimes in England to the US, only the violent crimes. He admoits that the murder rate is about 1/4 that of the US, yet insists that their violent crime rate is shockingly high. He never explains whether there's a difference in the definition of "violent crime" between the FBI and the Home Office. He just whines about "the media" (as if it's a monolithic thing) not telling you the very misleading statistics he feels so confident about.

Why am I having a hard time taking him seriously?
 
2013-01-06 06:48:37 PM  

feckingmorons: St_Francis_P: I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!

They have always cared about them, they don't just use them for political expediency or as background props in advertisements. They don't drop into strange dialects when speaking to African-Americans like Sec. Clinton, or when speaking to Asian-Americans like Vice President Biden.

They see them as people with the same goals, needs and families as themselves, not as votes to be duped into being cast for them through lies and manipulation.


This. Something the Left will never understand. It reminds me of in LotR, where it never occurred to Sauron that anyone might think to destroy the Ring. As his whole mind was bent on domination, he saw the goals of others as similar. The Left sees minorities as monolithic groups to be manipulated and cajoled into supporting certain politicians or policies. And since conservatives don't do this, they see them as being sneaky or wrong in some way. Conservatives don't constantly shine a spotlight on minorities or pander to them as a group, so they must be racist. It never occurs to a Leftists that there are people who just see minorities as other people. Not pawns to be used, or waifs to be endlessly supported. Just people with the same rights, responsibilities, choices, freedoms, and consequences as anyone else.
 
2013-01-06 06:49:34 PM  

Alleyoop: GAT_00: It's worth pointing out here that a few people who are fervently pro-gun are now demanding that someone be charged with a law they consider illegal without actual proof that the law is violated. Which really boils down to nothing more than wanting to throw your political enemies in prison.

Well, I don't think David Gregory has to actually be charged to point out what a hypocrite his type is.


Let him be charged....if he fights it maybe it goes all the way to scotus where the law is overturned.......thats the actual fear of people like troll pooper and why he fights so hard to make sure gregory doesnt get charged
 
2013-01-06 06:49:55 PM  
FTA: Mr. Brinkley refused to take a plea bargain and admit guilt, so the matter went to trial Dec. 4. The judge sided with Mr. Brinkley, saying he had met the burden of proof that he was legally transporting. Mr. Brinkley was found not guilty on all firearms-related charges, including for the "high-capacity" magazines, and he was left with a $50 traffic ticket.


So he had his day in court and was found not guilty. Am I the only one who is not seeing the problem here?
 
2013-01-06 06:50:15 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Farkage: And if either of them was charged, they both have to be charged.

Because a picture of you holding a magazine in a place not your residence is EXACTLY the same class of evidence as being busted with said magazine in your vehicle along with the weapon it is intended to be used with.

The desperation here is hilarious.


Geez, I hate to burst your condom but video (and pictures) is used to convict people all the time. And, as someone else pointed out, all the prosecutors have to do is subpoena people involved with that broadcast to testify that this was a real mag and Gregory is cooked which would make the rest of us who hate liberal hypocrisy laugh.

Farkin idiot.
 
2013-01-06 06:51:20 PM  

BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?


One can disagree with the law however it is a law and should be enforced, and enforced equally. As it stands there is video evidence and basically a video confession that someone possessed an illegal item, had that been a minority on a youtube video would the outcome have been the same as a reporter?
 
2013-01-06 06:52:51 PM  

Silly Jesus: GF named my left testicle thundercles: compare UK and US violent crime

Essentially, liberal cesspools (big cities), and their inherent government subsidized criminals, account for the crime. Thanks libs.


It's an interesting dichotomy. "Big cities" (other than notable exceptions such as most of NYC, San Diego, Honolulu, El Paso, etc...) have higher crime rates than southern "red" areas. At the same time, those "big cities" prop up the economies of those mostly "red" areas with their federal tax revenues.

But at the same time, "blue" suburbs and rural areas have lower crime rates than "red" areas AND provide the tax revenues the "red" areas need to survive.
 
2013-01-06 06:53:30 PM  

Mrbogey: GAT_00: The defendant is never required to provide evidence against themselves. It is obtained by police through warrants.

Police: "Here's a warrant to produce the device you had on TV".


Producers: "Here's the fifth amendment. Unless that warrant comes with an offer of immunity, go fark yourselves".
 
2013-01-06 06:56:58 PM  

Moopy Mac: But at the same time, "blue" suburbs and rural areas


Where are these blue rural areas?
 
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