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(Washington Times)   It's one thing to break DC's gun laws when you're white and rich but if you're non-white and non-rich... oh you better believe you're going to get charged with a crime. Bonus: Defendant is an Army vet and applicant for US Marshal   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 310
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2013-01-06 01:12:37 PM
One law for thee but not for me...
 
2013-01-06 01:21:52 PM

Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...


Prove Gregory had a real mag.
 
2013-01-06 01:24:54 PM
I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!
 
2013-01-06 01:25:18 PM

Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...


Hi, and welcome to The United States of America. Be very careful of your skin color, as it will affect how you are perceived in Court.
 
2013-01-06 01:29:33 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.


So, you think he was lying when he said it was real? That's what you're left with?

/you could hear the spring and see the follower
 
2013-01-06 01:30:33 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.


http://www.wtop.com/41/3171388/NBCs-David-Gregory-may-have-violated- DC -gun-laws-during-interview-
"The official said he took a phone call on Friday from someone at NBC who wanted to know about showing ammunition and a gun magazine on the show. "

Loaded or not, that sure sounds like it was a real mag.
 
2013-01-06 01:33:40 PM

Fark It: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

So, you think he was lying when he said it was real? That's what you're left with?

/you could hear the spring and see the follower


vudutek: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

http://www.wtop.com/41/3171388/NBCs-David-Gregory-may-have-violated- DC -gun-laws-during-interview-
"The official said he took a phone call on Friday from someone at NBC who wanted to know about showing ammunition and a gun magazine on the show. "

Loaded or not, that sure sounds like it was a real mag.


Go to court with that and see what happens.
 
2013-01-06 01:45:25 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.


You are actually coming up with defense strategies because you agree with his position, or think he is cute, or want to do your hair that way or some other absurd reason. There is probable cause to believe (and video to help us see) that he broke the law and you want to argue that he didn't.

Simply amazing.

What flavor was the Kool-AId?
 
2013-01-06 01:49:10 PM

St_Francis_P: I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!


They have always cared about them, they don't just use them for political expediency or as background props in advertisements. They don't drop into strange dialects when speaking to African-Americans like Sec. Clinton, or when speaking to Asian-Americans like Vice President Biden.

They see them as people with the same goals, needs and families as themselves, not as votes to be duped into being cast for them through lies and manipulation.
 
2013-01-06 01:53:02 PM

feckingmorons: There is probable cause to believe (and video to help us see) that he broke the law and you want to argue that he didn't.


Take that to court.

The guy in the article was busted with the mags in his possession. I'm not saying he should be prosecuted but these are entirely different types of evidence.
 
2013-01-06 01:54:23 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: vudutek: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

http://www.wtop.com/41/3171388/NBCs-David-Gregory-may-have-violated- DC -gun-laws-during-interview-
"The official said he took a phone call on Friday from someone at NBC who wanted to know about showing ammunition and a gun magazine on the show. "

Loaded or not, that sure sounds like it was a real mag.

Go to court with that and see what happens.


Yeah, speculation is not proof.  Lack of proof appears to be enough for a few people who are quite concerned though.
 
2013-01-06 01:55:18 PM
Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?
 
2013-01-06 01:58:19 PM

BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?


It's worth pointing out here that a few people who are fervently pro-gun are now demanding that someone be charged with a law they consider illegal without actual proof that the law is violated.  Which really boils down to nothing more than wanting to throw your political enemies in prison.
 
2013-01-06 02:02:18 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Take that to court.


Take the prop mags to court. What would the court's opinion be if a defendant refuses to produce evidence requested?
 
2013-01-06 02:05:24 PM

Mrbogey: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Take that to court.

Take the prop mags to court. What would the court's opinion be if a defendant refuses to produce evidence requested?


Ah yes, the defense is legally required to provide to the prosecution evidence that could be used to convict them.  That's a nice corollary to the 5th Amendment.
 
2013-01-06 02:05:34 PM

BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?


One should be able to trust the MPD on taking unregistered GUNS TO THE WHITE HOUSE but personally I would have made two trips.
 
2013-01-06 02:11:36 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?

One should be able to trust the MPD on taking unregistered GUNS TO THE WHITE HOUSE but personally I would have made two trips.


I would have as well, and that doesn't mean the guy shouldn't get a lecture.  I just don't think society is made safer by prosecuting this guy.  Or David Gregory.
 
2013-01-06 02:18:15 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BSABSVR: Can I say neither should be charged with anything, or is that going to throw you dipshiats into a fake goddamned froth?

One should be able to trust the MPD on taking unregistered GUNS TO THE WHITE HOUSE but personally I would have made two trips.


The man was a Maryland resident who was transporting his gun legally, as a judge found. He was not subject to DC's registration requirements.

This kind of behavior on the part of the city prosecutor does not help dispel the notion that DC's gun laws have nothing to do with public safety and everything to do with punitive punishment and active discouragement of civilian gun ownership (and mostly minority gun ownership at that).
 
2013-01-06 02:22:28 PM

GAT_00: Ah yes, the defense is legally required to provide to the prosecution evidence that could be used to convict them. That's a nice corollary to the 5th Amendment.


"Okay we have tape of you holding an item which appears to be contraband. You're stating in the tape that it's contraband. We have witness statements testifying that it was indeed contraband. But you're refusing to produce it and claiming it's not contraband. Okay."

Wanna discuss the limits of withholding physical evidence in terms of the fifth amendment?
 
2013-01-06 02:26:19 PM
I fail to see the controversy.  From the pic Mr Brinkley is obviously African American.  We all know we can't let those kinds of people have weapons of mass destruction like empty Glock magazines.
 
2013-01-06 02:28:53 PM

Mrbogey: We have witness statements testifying that it was indeed contraband.


Who's going to make that statement without incriminating themselves?
That is, who can verify it was a real mag without being at least as guilty of possession as Gregory?
 
2013-01-06 02:55:11 PM

Fark It: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

So, you think he was lying when he said it was real? That's what you're left with?


When have you ever known a TV pundit to tell the truth?
 
2013-01-06 03:14:53 PM

Mrbogey: GAT_00: Ah yes, the defense is legally required to provide to the prosecution evidence that could be used to convict them. That's a nice corollary to the 5th Amendment.

"Okay we have tape of you holding an item which appears to be contraband. You're stating in the tape that it's contraband. We have witness statements testifying that it was indeed contraband. But you're refusing to produce it and claiming it's not contraband. Okay."

Wanna discuss the limits of withholding physical evidence in terms of the fifth amendment?


The defendant is never required to provide evidence against themselves.  It is obtained by police through warrants.  But hey, good job tossing the 5th Amendment so you can throw a political enemy in prison.
 
2013-01-06 03:20:59 PM
Is bogey giving his views on the law, again?
 
2013-01-06 03:24:42 PM
Ya'll are insane... and this thread is a perfect example of why can't have a reasonable discourse about gun control in this country.
 
2013-01-06 03:27:18 PM
Even if a bank robber passes a note stating he has a gun he's going down for armed robbery if all he's got is a rotten banana in his pocket. And in some states that's a minimum jail term outside the judge's discretion.
 
2013-01-06 03:29:00 PM
Obviously, DC's gun laws are designed to get guns & accessories off the streets, not out of TV studios.  It has nothing to do with race or socioeconomic status.
 
2013-01-06 03:30:04 PM

GAT_00: The defendant is never required to provide evidence against themselves. It is obtained by police through warrants.


Police: "Here's a warrant to produce the device you had on TV".
 
2013-01-06 03:31:33 PM

OregonVet: Even if a bank robber passes a note stating he has a gun he's going down for armed robbery if all he's got is a rotten banana in his pocket. And in some states that's a minimum jail term outside the judge's discretion.


"I've got this case locked up."

www.lileks.com
 
2013-01-06 03:34:06 PM
Errr... subpoena.
 
2013-01-06 03:34:10 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "I've got this case locked up."


Well at least I pointed out a fact.
 
2013-01-06 03:34:20 PM

Mrbogey: GAT_00: The defendant is never required to provide evidence against themselves. It is obtained by police through warrants.

Police: "Here's a warrant to produce the device you had on TV".


Gregory: "Sure. Where is it?"
 
2013-01-06 03:36:17 PM

OregonVet: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: "I've got this case locked up."

Well at least I pointed out a fact.


And now all you have to do is show Gregory robbing a bank with videotape of magazine.
 
2013-01-06 04:03:36 PM
In the much better, much longer version of the story they actually note that he had an arrest warrant out because of a prior traffic stop that never got taken care of.  That's what snowballed the search.  They should have dropped the charges.  It's a stupid law, and it shouldn't have been applied in this case anyway.  Nor should it have been applied when what's his face waved an empty magazine on tv.

Gun control laws tend to be pretty stupid, as do the people who support them.  They don't do any good, and instead exist solely so the police have an excuse to harass law-abiding citizens like this man.
 
2013-01-06 05:36:35 PM

Lsherm: In the much better, much longer version of the story they actually note that he had an arrest warrant out because of a prior traffic stop that never got taken care of.  That's what snowballed the search.  They should have dropped the charges.  It's a stupid law, and it shouldn't have been applied in this case anyway.  Nor should it have been applied when what's his face waved an empty magazine on tv.

Gun control laws tend to be pretty stupid, as do the people who support them.  They don't do any good, and instead exist solely so the police have an excuse to harass law-abiding citizens like this man.


I guess all those countries with far more restrictive gun laws that have far fewer deaths due to gun violence are "stupid". However the belief that because Billy Joe Bob and his drinking buddies are armed, they are the last thing that stands between us and the tyranny of the US government makes complete sense
 
2013-01-06 05:54:05 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Lsherm: In the much better, much longer version of the story they actually note that he had an arrest warrant out because of a prior traffic stop that never got taken care of.  That's what snowballed the search.  They should have dropped the charges.  It's a stupid law, and it shouldn't have been applied in this case anyway.  Nor should it have been applied when what's his face waved an empty magazine on tv.

Gun control laws tend to be pretty stupid, as do the people who support them.  They don't do any good, and instead exist solely so the police have an excuse to harass law-abiding citizens like this man.

I guess all those countries with far more restrictive gun laws that have far fewer deaths due to gun violence are "stupid". However the belief that because Billy Joe Bob and his drinking buddies are armed, they are the last thing that stands between us and the tyranny of the US government makes complete sense


You could always move to Mexico... guns are illegal there. Seems like a safe place.
 
2013-01-06 06:08:00 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Hi, and welcome to The United States of America. Be very careful of your skin color, as it will affect how you are perceived in Court.


Or if you're a Kennedy.
 
2013-01-06 06:09:25 PM
I'm so glad I live in America instead of D.C.
 
2013-01-06 06:11:07 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Fark It: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

So, you think he was lying when he said it was real? That's what you're left with?

/you could hear the spring and see the follower

vudutek: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

http://www.wtop.com/41/3171388/NBCs-David-Gregory-may-have-violated- DC -gun-laws-during-interview-
"The official said he took a phone call on Friday from someone at NBC who wanted to know about showing ammunition and a gun magazine on the show. "

Loaded or not, that sure sounds like it was a real mag.

Go to court with that and see what happens.


How retarded are you??!? Seriously?
 
2013-01-06 06:12:01 PM
Good jerb, subby. Played the race card like a good libby lib.
 
2013-01-06 06:15:31 PM
5 things to remember when you enjoy firearms.

1.) never goto california
2.) or newyork
3.) or illinois
4.) or DC
5.) if you are doing something possibly illegal do not mention it to an authority.
 
2013-01-06 06:16:19 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Lsherm: In the much better, much longer version of the story they actually note that he had an arrest warrant out because of a prior traffic stop that never got taken care of.  That's what snowballed the search.  They should have dropped the charges.  It's a stupid law, and it shouldn't have been applied in this case anyway.  Nor should it have been applied when what's his face waved an empty magazine on tv.

Gun control laws tend to be pretty stupid, as do the people who support them.  They don't do any good, and instead exist solely so the police have an excuse to harass law-abiding citizens like this man.

I guess all those countries with far more restrictive gun laws that have far fewer deaths due to gun violence are "stupid". However the belief that because Billy Joe Bob and his drinking buddies are armed, they are the last thing that stands between us and the tyranny of the US government makes complete sense


Haha cuz all gun owners are Cletus the slack jawed yokel. Ha ha


Shut the fark up.
 
2013-01-06 06:18:09 PM
I, for one, would like to express my most sincere condolences to the victims of James Brinkley's heinous crime and hope that he rots in prison for ruining those peoples lives.
 
2013-01-06 06:18:12 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Lsherm: In the much better, much longer version of the story they actually note that he had an arrest warrant out because of a prior traffic stop that never got taken care of.  That's what snowballed the search.  They should have dropped the charges.  It's a stupid law, and it shouldn't have been applied in this case anyway.  Nor should it have been applied when what's his face waved an empty magazine on tv.

Gun control laws tend to be pretty stupid, as do the people who support them.  They don't do any good, and instead exist solely so the police have an excuse to harass law-abiding citizens like this man.

I guess all those countries with far more restrictive gun laws that have far fewer deaths due to gun violence are "stupid". However the belief that because Billy Joe Bob and his drinking buddies are armed, they are the last thing that stands between us and the tyranny of the US government makes complete sense


crime rates in the UK and US are pretty similar, despite that the US has a much more diverse population with more economic disparity
 
2013-01-06 06:18:48 PM
Progressives gonna progress.
 
2013-01-06 06:19:10 PM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: 5 things to remember when you enjoy firearms.

1.) never goto california
2.) or newyork
3.) or illinois
4.) or DC
5.) if you are doing something possibly illegal do not mention it to an authority.


Ironically, good luck hanging out in those cities (Chicago for 3) at night without one.
 
2013-01-06 06:20:20 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.


I like how this is the new, ever-evolving defense. Pretty soon, you're going to claim that it was CG'd in, even though they have it on record that the show called the police AND that he SAID it was a magazine, not that it was a replica.

Tune in next week, when the defense is that the corner of the studio where he held the mag up was actually in a parallel universe...
 
2013-01-06 06:20:24 PM

St_Francis_P: I find it encouraging that the Conservative Entertainment Complex is finally worrying about the treatment of minorities and the disadvantaged. Bravo!


.
You should step off of the plantation from time to time.

atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com
 
2013-01-06 06:22:04 PM
Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan told The Washington Times, "We feel it was a valid arrest, and the appropriate charges were brought." Moments later, a spokesman for the D.C. attorney general's office, Ted Gest, called and provided the exact same quote. Mr. Gest added that, despite Mr. Brinkley's acquittal, the ruling "doesn't mean the judge is right, and we're wrong."

/actually, you're being wrong with charging him with a crime is EXACTLY what the judgment means.
 
2013-01-06 06:23:17 PM

feckingmorons: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Mrbogey: One law for thee but not for me...

Prove Gregory had a real mag.

You are actually coming up with defense strategies because you agree with his position, or think he is cute, or want to do your hair that way or some other absurd reason. There is probable cause to believe (and video to help us see) that he broke the law and you want to argue that he didn't.

Simply amazing.

What flavor was the Kool-AId?


What bothers you more: That the clip is illegal, or that a journalist from the mainstreamliberalmedia had one in his possession?
Conservative cognitive dissonance is always fun to watch.
 
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